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I know that we will have troops in the Middle East for a LONG TIME...regardless who is the president.


There's a clear difference between doing what one HAS to do and doing what one WANTS to do. But I have no doubt, US troops will be home [under an Obama administration] far sooner than under McCain.
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Originally posted by Kweli4Real:
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I know that we will have troops in the Middle East for a LONG TIME...regardless who is the president.


There's a clear difference between doing what one HAS to do and doing what one WANTS to do. But I have no doubt, US troops will be home [under an Obama administration] far sooner than under McCain.


And you base that on what....because Obama said it to get votes lol. That Negro will say damn near anything if that is what is needed to become president. The Dems talked the same sh!t in 2006 about ending the war....so the people put them in office....and their scared azzes did not do Jack Sh!t!!! Just like Kucinich said....all they had to do was cut off the funding by voting against it....if they wanted to end the war. Did Obama do that...Hell naw...neither did HRC or most other Dems who wanted to run for president. Obama is not going to do Jack....but he damn sure got you fooled. If it was not for people as gullable as you.....maybe the nation could elect leaders that actually would do some good.
Noah....her analysis is whack for a person her age........she has no sense of her own social reality and what shaped it to not be antebellum in nature......i won't even go into affirmative action....man some are really a part of the "lost tribe".............
You know, it's really really hard to follow your arguments sometimes. sck

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Originally posted by Noah The African:

I cannot speak for her....but I would rather have this nation take a plunge when a white person is running things rather than during the first black presidency. After the fallout....a black president can come in while things are already messed up....and hence not be blamed for it. Oh.....and for the folks who think things are messed up now....


Things are going just gangbusters now! 20
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Originally posted by Kevin41:
MAN..IF I DID NOT KNOW ANY BETTER I WOULD SWEAR SOMEONE LOCKED NOAH UP AND HIJACKED HIS COMPUTER


I think Noah needs to be locked up and put in restraints for his own good.
That's cool. You ever see those people who are infatuated in relationships were the object of their infatuation is not what they think? Try bringing up any negative truths about this person and watch the person infatuated tear you a new azz hole. It's not until the person gets played enough times that they come to their senses and realize that the people drawing attention to the person's negatives really had their best interest at heart.

I think that it is very dangerous for black people to become infatuated with a presidential candidate, largely, if not mostly, because they happen to be black. We exist in the day and age of proxies. Nations fund opposition movements within other countries to overthrow leadership that they do not like. We all witness the black conservative proxies that are placed on TV, by whites, to talk against traditional black aspirations and leaders. Obama, to me, is likely a proxy tool for the interest of white America. How can he be anything else given that whites are over 70% of the electorate?

In light of that, whatever this sister's motive, I respect the fact that she is not simply following the wave of Obamania.....especially given her age and the fact that most people her age simply go with TRENDS or what's the popular and cool sentiment. I respect her analysis much more then I do of people who just ride the wave of trends seeking to fit. Like I said, I don't agree with her support of McCain, but she does demonstrate that she is thinking. Of course, the fact that her conclusions does not coincide with many of yours is why you disrespect her conclusions. You would respect her more if she just does like most other people that age.....and just vote for who their parents, friends or greatest influence in their lives vote for or because the persons color matches her.

I recall Farrakhan saying a while ago that America does not elevate a black person to a position of power unless they have plans for that person. I think he said that when Colin Powell was appointed by Bush. Later, was Colin Powell's credibility that was used to sell our Objectives to the United Nations....and our own nation? Colin got played. He got used. White America will not elect a black president without him become a proxy for white interest. White interests have never satisfied our quest for equality. Moreover, I don't see the Democrats as having the ability to be like democrats of the past 3 decades. The democrats will be forced to adopt more of the policies of the center and right and that is why Obama is moving in that direction. So I don't look down on this sisters analysis because I honestly don't see McCain being too much worse than Obama....especially since the black movement and struggle is essentially dead....as a government initiative. So the issue of what is going to be done for black America is moot....as its not going to happen in politics anymore. That is what used to give the Democratic party much of its value to black folks....but now that blacks have acheived 90% of where we need to be....we no longer warrant any special attention. In such a political Climate....a Moderate republican like McCain is not going to be too much worse the a Democrat who moves to the center.
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