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I still say Biden was only joking when he made the " .  .  . you ain't Black' statement, and I don't see what the big deal is about what he was joking about, and I didn't see anything that he had to apologize for [other than if someone took it the wrong way].

Technically, I agree with Biden, that if you are having trouble figuring out who to vote for between Biden [or damn near anybody else] and Trump, YOU AIN'T BLACK.

If you would even considered voting for Trump for one millimeter of a second, YOU AIN'T BLACK.

If even dreamed about voting for Trump's Racist, Fascist, Sociopath ass, YOU AIN'T BLACK.

@sunnubian posted:

I still say Biden was only joking when he made the " .  .  . you ain't Black' statement, and I don't see what the big deal is about what he was joking about, and I didn't see anything that he had to apologize for [other than if someone took it the wrong way].

Technically, I agree with Biden, that if you are having trouble figuring out who to vote for between Biden [or damn near anybody else] and Trump, YOU AIN'T BLACK.

If you would even considered voting for Trump for one millimeter of a second, YOU AIN'T BLACK.

If even dreamed about voting for Trump's Racist, Fascist, Sociopath ass, YOU AIN'T BLACK.

Joe Biden needs to EARN the Black vote this time around...esp. with his record.  In the Breakfast Club interview, he spoke of the 1994 Crime Bill as if he just voted for it and was not the co-author.  That's the kind of games he is playing.  He need to overgive to the Black community.  Hillary was on that same platform talking about she carries hot sauce in her purse....that's what they think of you.  They treat Blacks like we are just looking for some good white folk that aint openly racist.  Biden will get the old black vote, that church going crowd that are defeated.  The youngins' are on point and will hold him accountable.  #NoBlackAgnedaNoBlackVote 

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This is the dilemma African Americans have found themselves in since the gaining the right to Vote in this country. 

We've almost always had to choose between the lessor of two evils when it comes to elections.

I personally think that Biden will allow himself to be used as a republican tool if he's elected, but at the same time, I don't think that he will use his position as President of the United States of America to freaking ENDORSE Neo-Nazi, Skinhead, KKK Fascists or hold rallies where he deliberately uses racist code rhetoric to try to instigate a race war in this country, or encourage psychopaths to roam around the country looking for Black people [and other minorities] to "F" with, brutalize and murder, like Trump has did.  

Maybe it's because of my age, and the elections/candidates I've seen in my lifetime, but hell there is really nothing new happening with the African Americans [or any other minority] Vote in America. 

The Black Vote has almost always been between a rock and a hard place in this country, and under those circumstances, with no other VIABLE options, the lessor of two evils is the logical, most intelligent choice that could be made.  

But, just like with Clinton, Biden has already likely lost to Trump because of what African Americans are perceiving as a BIG 'diss' already [not to mention the years of Democrat silence on issues crucial to African America, even matters of life and death where Black people are concerned], because African Americans usually retaliate against Democrats' indifference and ingratitude, by not showing up at the polls, knowing full well that democrats cannot win without the Black vote, and because any Black votes not sitting out the election in Protest, will be stolen [as usual] by republicans.

 

 

 

 

 

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Ah, the shit's still ongoingl Joe!! Slavery has never been abolished. That's where the Klan Cops and the Human zoos come into play. If you Mighty Whities paid Africans what they were WORTH, you'd never have to worry about seeing another one as long as you lived. We're as sick of your shit as you are of ours. Who would you have to do all your dirty work?? You'd be blacker than us if you had to work in the sun and God help the spots and wrinkles you'd have. Your makeup wouldn't be able to cover up shit. You'd all be a bunch of polka dot assholes, looking like a bunch of corpses that were forgotten to be buried. White folks, you aren't :all that!!!!" Not in my book, anyway.

@sunnubian posted:

So, Who should Black people vote for?

Should Black people just not vote at all?

Should Black people Write-In a candidate; I mean, it's not too late to push another candidate.

The way I see it, we have a choice between Hitler and Johnson.

So,  . . . 

 

*So, Who should Black people vote for?

- Whichever candidate has an acceptable Black Agenda that will move our people forward in America.  Obama had an agenda for Gay people, which included equal access to many parts of this society including marriage.  On Election day, Gays knew who had their back (no pun intended...lol).  Black people should have the same type of open support as the gays did.  

 

* Should Black people Write-In a candidate; I mean, it's not too late to push another candidate.

- Many Black people are deciding if they will vote on the presidental level at all.  The Dems have been using us anyway and we can't even get them to get the police off our back (not a play on words here!!)... For those who think that  not voting is a vote for Trump, it isn't....Trump will probably win anyway because Biden seems loopy and is too old anyway.  it is not Black peoples job to same the country from the bigots.  Trump's support is klanish, but that's teh way the game is played.  Biden will need to EARN the Black vote this year or he will lose.  He needs to do for us, what Obama did for the Illegal immigrants...give us a DACA like focus to help us and our kids.  Four more years of Trump will actually help black people indirectly because if the Dems lose, then they will have to come to the table with a REAL agenda for Black people...and also when Trumps sends the illegals back south of the border, Black people are able to get a lot of those jobs... link: https://www.toledoblade.com/op.../stories/20190208091

 

***Trump does one thing very well....he opens up racism to all minorities...look at how Chinese/Asian people are being boycotted during COVID-19.  They are very unprepared for the harsh true of racism that Black people know oh so well.  You see, Blacks have been taking the blunt of vicious racism for centuries and all the while other groups have benefitted from Affirmative action programs that we fought for.  They claim to be 'minorities'...oh well...maybe they can form their own civil rights movement. 

 

   

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Well, 'Trumps support' IS the Klan, Neo-Nazis, Racist Hate Groups, Racist "Militias", run-of-the-mill racist and bigots, ignorant White people, sold-out pandering on their knees Black people, and Corporate, Oligarch, Elitist money.

Trump's, just like the Republican's, support is a conglomerate of America's most vile racists, America's most ignorant White people, Traitors To The United States, Corporate, Oligarch and Foreign money.

And while "it is not our job to save America from bigots", it is us that bare the brunt of all thebigotry, racism and hate in America, and to the point of it often being very deadly for many of us, it is our job, and in our best interest, to save ourselves from America's racists, bigots, hate-mongers, racist serial killers, even it means only hold them at bay four years at a time.  

So, voting for the lesser of two evils can at least hold them at bay [somewhat], even if for only four years at a time.

A high Black voter turnout usually assures at least the lessor of the ONLY TWO EVILS running will win, and while of course, it doesn't expand the intellectual evolution of White America, it at least does not encourage non-existent racism or 'escalate' the racial hatred, racial violence and bigotry that is already there, at least for four years [sometimes 8 years].

 

 

I'm voting for Biden. He and President Obama got along wonderfully together. They would laugh and they made me laugh. Plus, if he was good enough for President Obama, he's good enough for me. I'm going to check and see if my State will mail me a ballot. I can't risk standing in line with a bunch of fucks spewing droplets without masks.

If you don't vote, The Orange Blimp will get another 4 years. I can't stand looking at him nor his pencil thin wife with the $40,000 outfits. Went through enough of that shit with Nancy Reagan.

Trump can go to Mar-a-Lago  with the crocodiles and maybe one or two  will take a couple bites out of that fat, funky ass while he's waving a golf club.

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@sunnubian posted:

Well, 'Trumps support' IS the Klan, Neo-Nazis, Racist Hate Groups, Racist "Militias", run-of-the-mill racist and bigots, ignorant White people, sold-out pandering on their knees Black people, and Corporate, Oligarch, Elitist money.

Trump's, just like the Republican's, support is a conglomerate of America's most vile racists, America's most ignorant White people, Traitors To The United States, Corporate, Oligarch and Foreign money.

And while "it is not our job to save America from bigots", it is us that bare the brunt of all thebigotry, racism and hate in America, and to the point of it often being very deadly for many of us, it is our job, and in our best interest, to save ourselves from America's racists, bigots, hate-mongers, racist serial killers, even it means only hold them at bay four years at a time.  

So, voting for the lesser of two evils can at least hold them at bay [somewhat], even if for only four years at a time.

A high Black voter turnout usually assures at least the lessor of the ONLY TWO EVILS running will win, and while of course, it doesn't expand the intellectual evolution of White America, it at least does not encourage non-existent racism or 'escalate' the racial hatred, racial violence and bigotry that is already there, at least for four years [sometimes 8 years].

 

 

..but Biden's Crime bill has done more damage to the Black community than anything Trump has done in office.  This is simply a fact that many refuse to acknowledge.  Many young Black voters have taken my same stance and without us, Biden can't win.  He needs to comeback to the table with more than just a 'lift every voice' plan that doesn't help Black people because he starts off talking about our struggle and switches to 'minorities', which includes White gay people and white women.  Thanks, but no thanks...just not good enough.  We demand more.

 

 

 

@Norland posted:

I'm voting for Biden. He and President Obama got along wonderfully together. They would laugh and they made me laugh. Plus, if he was good enough for President Obama, he's good enough for me. I'm going to check and see if my State will mail me a ballot. I can't risk standing in line with a bunch of fucks.

If you don't vote, The Orange Blimp will get another 4 years. I can't stand looking at him nor his pencil thin wife with the $40,000 outfits. Went through enough of that shit with Nancy Reagan.

Trump can go to Mar-a-Lago  with the crocodiles and maybe one or two  will take a couple bites out of that fat, funky ass while he's waving a golf club.

Obama needed Biden because he didnt have any foreign policy experience and looked silly in the early debates among the full field of Dem candidates.  Biden was basically an empty suit.  I liked Obama, but he prioritized every other group over Blacks.  He just used us because we gave him free votes for nothing.  2020 is a new year and Biden needs to step it up.  I hate Trump, but if the Dems need 4 more years of Trump to get the point..oh damn well!!  The dems are mad because the young black people are not impressed by the fake swag or the 'I carry hot sauce in my purse' type of talk that Hillary did last time (Link: https://www.washingtonpost.com...5dff5970d_video.html).  Did Hillary in her meeting with Asian people say ' I also carry soy sauce in my purse??'...nope, she talked business and economics with their people.  The Dems take Black for granted and the results are very clear.  Biden needs to do more for his voting base (US) just like Trump does for his (Bigots and Big Business)...it is 'put up or shut up time'  

 

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@RadioRaheem posted:

..but Biden's Crime bill has done more damage to the Black community than anything Trump has done in office.  This is simply a fact that many refuse to acknowledge.  Many young Black voters have taken my same stance and without us, Biden can't win.  He needs to comeback to the table with more than just a 'lift every voice' plan that doesn't help Black people because he starts off talking about our struggle and switches to 'minorities', which includes White gay people and white women.  Thanks, but no thanks...just not good enough.  We demand more.

 

 

 

What you are probably too young to see the full context of, is that when that Crime Bill was signed, it was the height of the Crack Epidemic, and it was also drafted and signed because African American leadership, African American Politicians and African American Citizens were also practically begging, demanding for our own government to do something.

So, really that crime bill was being pushed heavily by ALL sides, and particularly by African Americans.

You need to do the research and pull up articles, stories, books, movies about the Crack Epidemic, something that decimated African American community, after African American community, after African American community all across America.  You need to research the total destruction of African American families and and young life.  There were reports of parents trying to sell their own young daughters to get money to buy crack-cocaine; there was a surge in sex trafficking of women and young girls; crime had gotten so out of hand in many of these communities that those that could, moved out, and so did what little businesses there were left in most of these communities.  

Of course, African Americans had no idea that the Crime Bill they supported at the time would be used to put ALL of African America under surveillance, or put the life of ANY African American in danger at the hands of the very people who where supposed actually aid in ridding communities of dangerous criminals.  

And at the time, African Americans certainly did not know that our own government was involved in funneling Crack-Cocaine specifically into Black communities and into the hands of young immature youth and gang members.

I'm not sure whether or not Bill Clinton [and Joe Biden] knew when they drafted/signed the Crime Bill, that it really would be used to enact jim crow  and wage a Race War against Black people in America, or that it would be used to exact Cruel and Unusual Punishment on Black defendants, and especially even for Non-Violent Crimes.  

I'm not sure if Clinton and Biden, and the Black Misleaders knew that the Crime Bill would be used to Criminalize Adolescent Behavior in Black Children, or to use Black bodies to support the largest Criminal Industrial Complex Industry in the world.

It would have to be researched, to see if it was clear to those who wrote the Bill, and those who pushed for the Bill, and those who supported the Crime Bill, knew that it would reawaken the racist jim crow system of Convict Leasing against Black people in America, or that police departments all across the country's funding would be tied to the number of arrests made, or that America's police departments would allow on the force, coddle and actively recruit racist [usually southern] cops who would use America's police forces [and their arsenals] to actively wage a Race War against Black people in America.  

So, it wasn't just so cut and dry where the Crime Bill was concerned, it really boils down to the intent by those who drafted it, and if those that signed it into law knew exactly HOW it would be used [and abused] to commit Domestic Terrorism against Black people and Black communities ALL across America.  

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I'm voting for Biden, I don't care what he signed. He's white afterall!! Whites would like us all locked up in the Human Zoo or deader than doornails.

Biden's the lesser of two evils. Trumps turning straight into Satan with every photo of his on my TV. He's a scary-lookin' SOB.

We had a black president, folks were unhappy. I wasn't. He was handsome and could speak English fluently; plus he wasn't an embarrassment. Don't forget he was half black working around a bunch of Klansmen. He did a good job as far as i'm concerned.

He couldn't give us reparations and still be living. He couldn't do a lot of things and still be living, when it came to us.

I love President Obama, Michelle, the Girls and Sonny and Bo. Nothing's going to change that. They said he was gay, Michelle was a man, equated everyone as Apes. You know, the King Kong shit!!

His bust in sitting right here on my computer, his magnets are on my refrigerator, and there's another bust of him in my window that will never move unless i do.

We had a black president (as black as one's going to get), I'm happy about that; no one was as sharp as he was getting out of the limousine with those dark glasses on. That was a serious DAMN!!!!! Swimming with his glorious arms outstretched was another!!!!!

A handsome man/a smart man was President of the United States and I'm glad I was around to see him and his family.

You'll never be able to say he couldn't speak ENGLISH and he did it fluently. He probably speaks foreign languages as well fluently. He damn sure wasn't an EMBARRASSMENT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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@sunnubian posted:

What you are probably too young to see the full context of, is that when that Crime Bill was signed, it was the height of the Crack Epidemic, and it was also drafted and signed because African American leadership, African American Politicians and African American Citizens were also practically begging, demanding for our own government to do something.

So, really that crime bill was being pushed heavily by ALL sides, and particularly by African Americans.

You need to do the research and pull up articles, stories, books, movies about the Crack Epidemic, something that decimated African American community, after African American community, after African American community all across America.  You need to research the total destruction of African American families and and young life.  There were reports of parents trying to sell their own young daughters to get money to by crack-cocaine; there was a surge in sex trafficking of women and young girls; crime had gotten so out of hand in many of these communities that those that could, moved out, and so did what little businesses there were left in most of these communities.  

Of course, African Americans had no idea that the Crime Bill they supported at the time would be used to put ALL of African America under surveillance, or put the life of ANY African American in danger at the hands of the very people who where supposed actually aid in ridding communities of dangerous criminals.  

I'm not sure whether or not Bill Clinton [and Joe Biden] knew when they drafted/signed the Crime Bill, that it really would be used to enact jim crow  and wage a Race War against Black people in America, or that it would be used to exact Cruel and Unusual Punishment on Black defendants, and especially even for Non-Violent Crimes.  

I'm not sure if Clinton and Biden, and the Black Misleaders knew that the Crime Bill would be used to Criminalize Adolescent Behavior in Black Children, or to use Black bodies support the largest Criminal Industrial Complex Industry in the world.

It would have to be researched, to see if it was clear to those who wrote the Bill, and those who pushed for the Bill, and those who supported the Crime Bill, knew that it would reawaken the racist jim crow system of Convict Leasing against Black people in America, or that police departments all across the country's funding would be tied to the number of arrests made, or that America's police departments would allow on the force, coddle and actively recruit racist [usually southern] cops who would use America's police forces [and their arsenals] to actively wage a Race War against Black people in America.  

So, it wasn't just so cut and dry where the Crime Bill was concerned, it really boils down to the intent by those who drafted it, and if those that signed it into law knew exactly HOW it would be used [and abused] to commit Domestic Terrorism against Black people and Black communities ALL across America.  

in 1994, I was a second year college student at Georgetown University in Washington DC.  I was very well aware of the time frame.  This was a point in ou history when the GOP was running with the Newt and Dick Armey backed- 'Contract for America' .  This led to the US Senate and House going to the GOP under Clinton's administration.  Biden, a Senior Senator from Delaware at the time, wanted to help gain back the racist/bigotted voters that supported the Contract for America.  He partnered with a GOP member and CO-WROTE the 1994 Crime bill.  I say CO-WROTE because during the recent Breakfast Club interview he sounded like he just voted for it.  

"I'm not sure if Clinton and Biden, and the Black Misleaders knew that the Crime Bill would be used to Criminalize Adolescent Behavior in Black Children, or to use Black bodies support the largest Criminal Industrial Complex Industry in the world." - Biden said that it didn't cause the mass incarceration -> Link: https://www.nytimes.com/2019/0...iden-crime-laws.html

 

Yes, it was the Crack agenda, but also it was the heroin era too.  Strangely, Biden didnt have a problem with the 3-strikes portion of that until he is running for the White House now.  He must atone for that.  

To the people that want to compare Biden vs Trump, Biden is the reason why so many Black kids daddies never came home.  These laws were/are on the books in many areas and only have come to light after heroin and crack users started to become very white.  Now they care and have drug drop offs and rehab centers that can take in junkies.  

Our vote matters and Biden will have to earn it.  The breakfast club interview just showed the divide between old Civil Rights black and the young bucks.  We are not going to 'bring more souls to the polls' in a one day attempt to feel important in the eyes of white people.  This is a new day.  If biden and the Dems can't put in work for our vote, then what makes yall think he will help yall in the White House?  At the very least, the Dems have to admit that they took our votes for granted and never had anything for us to begin with... "I'm not Trump", just isn't enough anymore.

 

 

more on this great divide between old Black and Young Blacks....In minnesota, the young Blacks are in the street for Justice and are even camped outside of the killer cops home.  The older Blacks are at a nearby church praying for peace.  Rev Al and Jesse are on the scene.

 

You see the old Blacks are doing the same old same ol, while the young ones are in the streets putting in work in Minnesota, Memphis, and LA.  No prayer and forgiveness talk.  Let the city burn!!

 

Justice might not come in our lifetimes, but the penalty for keeping it from us just went up(...in flames)...pun intended!!

Well, she was on Biden's short list.  I doubt that she will move past "go", now. 

She will probably have to go back to the racist republican party that she's really a member of.

 

 

 
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Black Americans Have a Message for Democrats: Not Being Trump Is Not Enough

Joe Biden wants to heal the soul of the country in this moment of protest and loss, and win the White House. Simply telling people to vote in November may not help with either goal.

 
 
Protestors demonstrate in Columbia, S.C. on Saturday in response to the recent killing of George Floyd at the hands of law enforcement.
Protestors demonstrate in Columbia, S.C. on Saturday in response to the recent killing of George Floyd at the hands of law enforcement.Credit...Sean Rayford for The New York Times
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COLUMBIA, S.C. — In an on-camera address after a week of destructive protests, former vice president Joseph R. Biden Jr. pleaded with his audience to imagine life for black people in America. Imagine, he said, “if every time your husband or son, wife or daughter left the house, you feared for their safety.” Imagine the police called on you for sitting in Starbucks.

“The anger and frustration and the exhaustion, it’s undeniable,” he said.

Exhaustion. For many black Americans across the country, what a year this month has been. The coronavirus pandemic has continued to disproportionately kill black people, and a spate of high profile killings in recent months in GeorgiaKentucky, and Minnesota, the latter two at the hands of the police, led to widespread demonstrations nationwide.

Protests shook more than three dozen cities on Saturday as crowds expressed outrage over the death of George Floyd, a black security guard who was killed in police custody in Minneapolis. Demonstrators shut down freeways, set fires and battled police batons and tear gas, the pain and frustration of the moment spilling out into the streets.

In Columbia, the city where Mr. Biden delivered his victory speech after the South Carolina primary just over three months ago, demonstrators on Saturday said they were demanding more than what it seemed like an election in November would deliver. Not only justice for the death of George Floyd, but change in political and economic power that would prevent the death of another black person in police custody, another brutal video going viral.

 

“I’m tired of coming out here,” said Devean Moon, a 21-year-old Columbia resident, one of hundreds who participated in the peaceful protests in the city. “I’m tired of feeling forced to do all this.”

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Devean Moon at the protest in Columbia.
Devean Moon at the protest in Columbia.Credit...Sean Rayford for The New York Times
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Sierra Moore at the protest in Columbia.
Sierra Moore at the protest in Columbia.Credit...Sean Rayford for The New York Times

It dawned on Sierra Moore, 24, who attended the protests carrying a homemade sign that read “No Justice, No Peace,” that she and her grandmother have been protesting the same issues over the course of a century.

She looked at the racially diverse group of thousands, which gathered for a short program on the State House steps before leading a march to the local police station.

Next to her was another sign: “Respect my existence or expect my resistance.”

“I just don’t think that’s how change happens,” Ms. Moore said of voting. “They’ve been telling us to do that for so long — and we’ve done it — and look at everything that’s still going on.”

 
 
 

Her words — expressing a sentiment shared by her peers — serve notice to politicians, civil rights groups and Mr. Biden, the presumptive Democratic nominee who has urged unity amid the frustration. “If you want change in America, go and register to vote,” said Mayor Keisha Lance Bottoms of Atlanta, but interviews with activists and leading Democratic figures including Stacey Abrams of Georgia, the longtime civil rights leader and former presidential candidate Jesse Jackson, and Representative Ayanna Pressley of Massachusetts, flipped that typical framework: If Democrats want people to vote, party leaders need to listen to why people are angry.

 

Ms. Abrams described the events of the past week as what happens when people are desperate for “their pain to be validated.”

“You cannot motivate someone to a behavior that they don’t believe will actually bring change,” she said. “We have to start by saying what you feel and what you fear is real.”

Mr. Biden has attempted to strike this balance. He made clear during his recent remarks that he had spoken to Mr. Floyd’s family. He talked about the country needing to confront the “uncomfortable truths” of racism.

“The very soul of America is at stake,” he said, tying the tension between the police and black communities to removing President Trump from the White House.

But the moment may still test Mr. Biden’s priorities, as a weary black electorate desires far greater change than the promise of a return to normalcy that has fueled his campaign. The Democratic Party is the political home of most black Americans. The former vice president, one of the Senate architects of the modern criminal justice system, cannot confront racism without addressing systemic inequalities, and he cannot address systemic inequalities by simply returning to a pre-Trump America.

“Our needs aren’t moderate,” Mr. Jackson said in a recent interview. “The absence of Trump is not enough.”

 
 
 

Mr. Biden’s win in South Carolina was a turning point for his once-flailing campaign. His support came from across all demographics, but his particular strength was older black voters — people who said the community’s familiarity with and trust of Mr. Biden, combined with his perceived ability to beat Mr. Trump, earned their backing.

 

To win in November, and to deliver on his promise of American unity, Mr. Biden is likely to need more than the coalition that brought him his primary victory. And to engage younger voters, he’ll need to offer more than the promise of ousting Mr. Trump as an answer to current despair.

 
 
ImageRev. Jesse L. Jackson and faith leaders stand in prayer for the killing of George Floyd, at Greater Friendship Missionary Baptist Church in Minneapolis on Thursday.
Rev. Jesse L. Jackson and faith leaders stand in prayer for the killing of George Floyd, at Greater Friendship Missionary Baptist Church in Minneapolis on Thursday.Credit...Elizabeth Flores/Star Tribune, via Associated Press

On the policy front, a task force with criminal justice experts that supported Senator Bernie Sanders of Vermont has already been convened. Mr. Jackson, who supported Mr. Sanders in the primary, said Mr. Biden is “a consensus builder” and, if surrounded by the right people, the quality should serve him well.

But Mr. Biden also must minimize mistakes, said Mayor Stephen Benjamin of Columbia, alluding to the recent controversy in which Mr. Biden apologized after saying “you ain’t black” to black people uncertain whether to support him or Mr. Trump.

“The greatest asset that every candidate has, for better or for worse, is authenticity,” Mr. Benjamin said. He views authenticity as a prerequisite to leveling with people who are used to being disappointed. “I do believe, that if the vice president is authentically Joe, a legitimately good man who cares, I think people will gravitate to that authenticity.”

Engaging with a community that feels disaffected by the political system can be difficult. Mr. Trump has made a public show of trying to coax black Americans away from the Democratic Party, though he inadvertently made clear in comments to reporters on Saturday how little progress he has made: “MAGA is Make America Great Again,” he said, discussing his voting base. “By the way, they love African-American people, they love black people. MAGA loves the black people.”

 
 
 

Last October, Mr. Trump was in Columbia to address a forum on policing and criminal justice — many of the issues protesters are taking to the streets over — held at Benedict College, a historically black institution. He spoke a day ahead of some of the 2020 Democratic candidates, including Mr. Biden.

“The Democratic policies have let African-Americans down and taken them for granted,” Mr. Trump said then.

 

Progressive black leaders are extremely critical of Mr. Trump, as are many black voters. But they also believe that Democrats have sometimes been their greatest obstacle in addressing police brutality and racial inequality.

“Part of the reason these are systemic inequalities is that they transcend not only party, but time,” said Ms. Abrams, who is among those being vetted by Mr. Biden as a potential running mate. She also noted that:“We have to be very intentional about saying this is not about one moment or one murder — but the entire infrastructure of justice.”

Ms. Pressley, one of the House members who introduced a resolution to condemn police brutality, racial profiling, and the excessive use of force in Congress this past week, pointed to the confluence of issues facing black communities: a public health crisis, an economic crisis and, with the threat of police violence, “just trying to stay alive.”

Economic experts have predicted that even as the country faces a nationwide downturn, black communities may be hit particularly hard. Access to capital will dry up more quickly, especially for black business owners, and a coming “avalanche of evictions” could displace black renters across the country.

Ms. Pressley, an insurgent progressive in 2018 who beat a Democratic incumbent partly with a strategy to engage nontypical voters, said if elected officials want to speak to people’s pain, they have to understand the “deficit of trust” they’re operating under.

 

“People don’t participate, not because they’re ignorant and they don’t know enough,” she said. “It’s because they know too much. They live it every day.”

At Saturday’s march in South Carolina’s capital, thousands gathered at a state capitol rich with its own racial back story. The Old Carolina State House was burned to the ground during the Civil War, and the new building includes monuments to 19th-century state figures who were open racists — such as Dr. J. Marion Sims, a pioneer in the field of surgery who experimented on enslaved black women, and Benjamin Tillman, a former U.S. senator and South Carolina governor who spoke positively about lynch mobs that killed black residents.

 
 
 
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Kayla Brabham at the protest from city hall to the statehouse in Columbia, S.C.
Kayla Brabham at the protest from city hall to the statehouse in Columbia, S.C.Credit...Sean Rayford for The New York Times

On Saturday, the state house steps were filled with many black South Carolinians, demanding the right to live without fear, an echo of what some people fought for more than a century ago, in the days of Mr. Sims and Mr. Tillman.

“Clearly our voices are not enough,” said Kayla Brabham, a 28-year-old student at Benedict College who skipped Mr. Trump’s speech at her school.

“It’s not just the last couple years or months, it’s the whole time I’ve been alive,” she said. “We should not have to come out here to make y’all feel like we’re important.”

Even her name, she said, was a reminder of the country’s legacy of black violence.

“B-R-A-B-H-A-M, ” she said, spelling it out. “We got that from our slave masters. My great-great-grandmother was a slave in Hampton, South Carolina.”

 

 

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