........Yet, Another Incident, Los Angeles County Sheriffs Shoot an Unarmed Black Male.......

CBS News and footage

KNBC footage and video!

Furthermore the lives, and property of residents are placed in jeopardy because of the Los Angeles County Sheriffs Department for the County of Los Angeles, disregard for the life, limb, and pursuit of happiness of the residents of Compton.

With this type of activity that occurs in contemporary times, give agents and officials of government enough rope to hang themselves, hanging themselves by committing:

A. Illegal and unwarranted police shootings of unarmed Black men, without justification. Driving around the block multiple times, and playing loud music is not a death sentence, or does not require the armed response of any peace officer!

B. Illegal and unwarranted destruction of private property of the residents nearby.

C. The civil lawsuits and associated settlement for wrongdoing for the atrocities that take place today, mean more, and are possible to collect damages, than any reparations for the atrocities of slavery movement.

Instead of having to look for an attorney, a battery of attorneys will make it their business to find you!

When any jurisdiction is this wrong, chances are that a county, such as the County of Los Angeles, will elect to settle this out of court, or take action to mitigate the liability of the jurisdiction in question, the jurisdiction in this instance being the County of Los Angeles.


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"Suspect Hospitalized After Gunfire in Compton
By Tonya Alanez, Richard Winton and Andrew Blankstein
Times Staff Writers

12:42 PM PDT, May 9, 2005

A wild chase in Compton this morning ended after 10 Los Angeles County sheriff's deputies delivered a fusillade of gunfire, wounding the suspect, striking a deputy and spraying at least 11 rounds into neighboring homes.

The suspect, shot in the sport utility vehicle, was identified as Winston "Junior" Hayes, 44. He was in stable condition at a hospital.

Hayes did not have a gun and no weapon was found when he was arrested, according to the Sheriff's Department. The shootings "” 30 bullet holes were apparent in Hayes' vehicle alone "” shocked the neighborhood.

Sheriff Lee Baca, at a press conference today, said his department is intensively reviewing the circumstances of the shooting, particularly the actions of his officers. Baca said investigators believe his deputy was struck by fire from fellow deputies.

"The key question: What was the triggering point for the shooting," Baca said.

Officials involved include several from the Office of Independent Review, the sheriff's special investigative unit. Baca said policy allows his officers to shoot "in defense of their lives, or the lives of citizens."

Baca said he will focus on tactics and "the intensity level of the shooting."

Neighbors were upset about the intense gunfire. Investigators were carefully poring over the scene, the 600 block of South Butler in Compton. They methodically numbered gunshots, with one marker reading "#87."

"They should be more careful when they do stuff. They could kill an innocent person," said Doris Bradford, 73, who lives in a home near the shooting site.

Today she shook her head when she showed where a bullet pierced the front wall of her home, near a picture window.

At least 11 bullets struck the homes of five people, according to an informal tally at noon today.

Robertino Gregorio, who lives in a second-floor apartment about a block away on Myrrh Street, said her family was roused from sleep by the sound of gunfire. Her husband, Pedro Mendes, went to the bedroom window to look. His 5-year-old son was asleep in the room.

Suddenly, two bullet holes pierced the window about eight inches from his head, Gregorio said.

She showed how the bullets pierced the window, closet doors, the back wall of the closet, and passed through one hallway wall, where it lodged in a kitchen cabinet above the refrigerator.

Sheriff's investigators took the spent bullet, Gregorio said. No residents appeared to have been physically injured.

Neighbors said Hayes was known in the area, where he had gone to school and done odd jobs. Baca said today's incident began when neighbors called to complain that Hayes was driving up and down streets, playing his radio loudly.

"It's likely he was under the influence because of the unusual circumstances that brought him to our attention," Baca said. "He had been driving around the area for about four hours, so he could have been under the influence."

Baca said Hayes had a record of narcotics violations.

The sheriff pointed out that Hayes' vehicle "wasn't really moving when it was shot at. What were those conditions surrounding the vehicle at the time it was stopped."

Videotape of the incident shows the vehicle moving slowly, but Baca said it "did not start to move after the shooting started."

Investigators are also considering a phenomenon know as "chain of fire," in which officers in a situation involving potential use of deadly force hear gunfire and respond by firing their weapons.

"We initially thought they were responding to what could have been some gang-related gunfire," Baca said. "That's what started this whole thing. I think there was an intensity level here.

"I have no idea one way or the other as to what the officers were thinking at the time," the sheriff said."

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Michael Lofton
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I heard about this on the radio while leaving work this afternoon. First thing these cops are doing to cover their ass is saying the vehicle was not "really" moving. What the hell does that mean, either it was at a complete stop or it was moving. From what I heard on the radio, nearly a hundred shots were fired, and with 30 holes in his car, that is not hard to believe. Brother still came out alive, that is what is so amazig, he could have easily been riddled with more bullets that Amadou.
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Originally posted by Faheem:
I heard about this on the radio while leaving work this afternoon. First thing these cops are doing to cover their ass is saying the vehicle was not "really" moving. What the hell does that mean, either it was at a complete stop or it was moving. From what I heard on the radio, nearly a hundred shots were fired, and with 30 holes in his car, that is not hard to believe. Brother still came out alive, that is what is so amazig, he could have easily been riddled with more bullets that Amadou.


Hello Faheem,

The Los Angeles County Sheriffs Department won't escape the penalties that come with this atrocity!

They won't be able to explain or rationalize this shooting, shooting of an unarmed Black man for playing music, and driving around the block multiple times.

Sure can't rationalize the hundreds of rounds fired that made for unnecessary risk of life, limb, and/or property damage to untold numbers of innocent Compton residents.

Los Angeles County will pay for this activity, just as it is paying for the many atrocities at Killer/Butcher King hospital!

Sincerely,

Michael Lofton
Just seen the video of this shooting, Insane... Damn cops are out of control!! Brother only was hit four times, these cops were so out of control that they shot one of their own whom were it not for his vest would probably be dead.
....Heck Hispanic Gangmembers know what to do when agents and officials of government violate their rights.

"Ovando, a tattooed member of the 18th Street gang, received a $15-million settlement from the city of Los Angeles after spending 2 1/2 years in prison based on false testimony from Perez and Durden. Ovando's conviction was overturned in 1999." excerpt from the article entitled, "Perez Details Gang Member Framing".

The Hispanic gangmembers have a much better understanding of how the system works, than our own elected Black leaders.

The typical elected Black leaders, in a no good illegal immigrant serving foreigners at the expense of the residents of Compton no good Merv Dymally, "Brentwood" Burke, "Kerosene" Waters, Carpetbagging serving Hispanics at the expense of the Black community no good Martin Ludlow, Missing in Action Diane Watson, etc., etc., play games, use false pretenses to hold elected office, are sleazy, don't respect the rights of the citizen to redress for the atrocities of a government seriously gone awry, etc., etc.

Our own Black elected leaders would prefer to remain silent, serve themselves or personal friends, and/or side with the perpetrators than represent the people, or protect the rights of the law abiding, etc., etc., etc, as they are sworn under oath and mandated by law to do!

....mind you the sleaze and criminal actions of Officer Perez and Officer Durden, who are both Black, and other LAPD officers, have enabled numerous Hispanic Gang members to seek megabuck in damages as a result of the atrocities of the Rampart scandal, and resulted in numerous court cases being thrown out of court.

Perez and Durden were caught in the act of violating Hispanic gangmembers. Perez and Durden plea bargained with the courts,....plea bargained to snitch on other LAPD officers, so that Perez and Durden would receive leniency.

....as a minority, both of these officers, being Black, this should have been the very last thought for them to take advantage of the rights of known felons or criminals, the criminal element being illegal immigrants, Hispanic Gang members, and the like.

....Way to go Durden and Perez, you just made it possible for numerous Hispanic felons to become wealthy, at the expense of law abiding taxpayer's dollars,

......or at the very least, these individuals can start a new life, a means of making a living without resorting to criminal activity to make their ends.


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http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-perez10may10,1,5143975.story?coll=la-headlines-california

Perez Details Gang Member Framing

By Andrew Blankstein, Times Staff Writer

May 10, 2005

The central figure in the Rampart corruption scandal told jurors Monday how he and his police partner shot a suspected gang member, leaving him paralyzed, then planted an assault rifle to cover up their crime.

The testimony from Rafael Perez, the disgraced Los Angeles Police Department undercover gang officer who blew the whistle on Rampart Division police misconduct, came as the shooting victim, Javier Francisco Ovando, sued Los Angeles County for allegedly providing incompetent legal representation.

Ovando contends that the county public defender in his 1997 criminal trial should have uncovered Perez's scheme to frame him.

Though Perez provided no significant new details about the shooting, the testimony reprised a disturbing picture of police misconduct.

"I basically fed off my partner," Perez said of the shooting. Perez fired three times and his partner, then-Officer Nino Durden, fired once. "It was an overreaction."

Perez said Durden got the planted gun, a TEC-22 short-barreled assault rifle, from an informant. Perez said Durden shaved off the serial number. After the shooting, they dropped the gun next to Ovando's hands.

Ovando, a tattooed member of the 18th Street gang, received a $15-million settlement from the city of Los Angeles after spending 2 1/2 years in prison based on false testimony from Perez and Durden. Ovando's conviction was overturned in 1999.

Ovando's current lawyer, Gregory W. Moreno, sought Monday to show that Deputy Public Defender Tamar Toister had failed to explore inconsistencies in Perez's testimony that should have tipped her off to the staged arrest.

According to Moreno, Toister failed to check the backgrounds of the officers, interview witnesses who could have contradicted their stories and properly explore the facts of the case, including the exact circumstances of the shooting.

Chief among Toister's failures was not listening to Ovando's claims that the gun was "a plant or a prop," Moreno said.

Toister, he said, could have accessed a database that would have shown that Perez ran a check on the weapon before the shooting, suggesting it was already in his possession.

"It's the old smoking gun," Moreno said. "The information was in their hands."

In cross-examination, a lawyer representing the county detailed widespread deceit by Perez, in an effort to show there was little the public defender could have done to unmask such a big conspiracy.

Perez reportedly implicated about 70 Rampart officers in what he said was a pattern of misconduct involving beatings, shootings and false arrests of suspected gang members. More than a dozen officers were fired or resigned. More than 100 criminal convictions were overturned as a result of the Rampart scandal, and about 200 people sued the LAPD.

Perez was sentenced in federal court to two years in prison for violating Ovando's civil rights. He also served three years in state prison for stealing cocaine from LAPD evidence lockers. He was released in 2001, and granted immunity from state prosecution for framing Ovando.

Durden was sentenced the following year to three years in prison for violating Ovando's federal civil rights and for possessing an illicit weapon that was used to frame an innocent man.

The scandal triggered a federal consent decree placing the LAPD under the scrutiny of a federal judge, careful monitoring of undercover gang units and a computer system to track problem officers.

Copyright 2005 Los Angeles Times

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Sincerely,

Michael Lofton
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The Hispanic gangmembers have a much better understanding of how the system works, than our own elected Black leaders. by Lofton


....same response

....Heck Hispanic Gangmembers know what to do when agents and officials of government violate their rights.

"Ovando, a tattooed member of the 18th Street gang, received a $15-million settlement from the city of Los Angeles after spending 2 1/2 years in prison based on false testimony from Perez and Durden. Ovando's conviction was overturned in 1999." excerpt from the article entitled, "Perez Details Gang Member Framing".

The Hispanic gangmembers have a much better understanding of how the system works, than our own elected Black leaders.

The typical elected Black leaders, in a no good illegal immigrant serving foreigners at the expense of the residents of Compton no good Merv Dymally, "Brentwood" Burke, "Kerosene" Waters, Carpetbagging serving Hispanics at the expense of the Black community no good Martin Ludlow, Missing in Action Diane Watson, etc., etc., play games, use false pretenses to hold elected office, are sleazy, don't respect the rights of the citizen to redress for the atrocities of a government seriously gone awry, etc., etc.

Our own Black elected leaders would prefer to remain silent, serve themselves or personal friends, and/or side with the perpetrators than represent the people, or protect the rights of the law abiding, etc., etc., etc, as they are sworn under oath and mandated by law to do!

....mind you the sleaze and criminal actions of Officer Perez and Officer Durden, who are both Black, and other LAPD officers, have enabled numerous Hispanic Gang members to seek megabuck in damages as a result of the atrocities of the Rampart scandal, and resulted in numerous court cases being thrown out of court.

Perez and Durden were caught in the act of violating Hispanic gangmembers. Perez and Durden plea bargained with the courts,....plea bargained to snitch on other LAPD officers, so that Perez and Durden would receive leniency.

....as a minority, both of these officers, being Black, this should have been the very last thought for them to take advantage of the rights of known felons or criminals, the criminal element being illegal immigrants, Hispanic Gang members, and the like.

....Way to go Durden and Perez, you just made it possible for numerous Hispanic felons to become wealthy, at the expense of law abiding taxpayer's dollars,

......or at the very least, these individuals can start a new life, a means of making a living without resorting to criminal activity to make their ends.


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Originally posted by Kevin41:
I guess we know who we should vote for next time..... bs


......Demographic changes will do the job, since the typical Black elected leaders don't have the slightest idea of what is expected of an elected office holder, and the majority of the Black electorate have wasted their right to vote on misfits.


The typical Black elected leadership, and our own Black middle class have failed, and be it B.S., or otherwise it is not just me saying so!

.....Since this Black man has been shot, and Compton residents in the area have had their property damaged as a result of 120 rounds of ammunition fired by only police officers, the shooting and property damage being done without justification by Los Angeles County Sheriffs Department,

.....not a single Black elected leader has spoken out against this, and/or used his or her position of influence to hold Los Angeles County responsible for this activity! Brentwood Burke, no good illegal immigrant Merv Dymally, and Kerosene Waters are the elected representatives for Compton, California.

...Just a matter time though. It won't be long before Hispanics acquire their U.S. citizenship rights, and the right to vote,

...... meaning since Black people in positions of influence choose to be sleazy, look out for personal friends, are greedy, don't have a clue as to meaning of the essense of an elected respresentative....

.......demographic changes will remove "Brentwood" Burke, "Kerosene" Waters, "no good illegal immigrant serving foreign interests at the expense of Compton residents no good" Merv Dymally, "Carpet bagging no good serving Hispanics at the expense of the Black community" Martin Ludlow, "Loud mouth, spewing hatred for Caucasians getting no where Kerosene" Waters, "Once elected never seen again no good" Diane Watson, and/or other misfit Black elected leaders from office...

.....time after time the majority of the Black electorate have wasted their right to vote on misfits.

BS is not responsible, ignorance, sleaze, greed, and treason are on the other hand definitely the cause of this working against the best interest of the Black community activity!

Sincerely,

Michael Lofton
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Maybe then you will not have a reason to rant and rave...when the black misfits are removed because of demographic changes....do you think you'll be better off as a result of them being removed and replaced by hispanics??
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Originally posted by Kevin41:
Maybe then you will not have a reason to rant and rave...when the black misfits are removed because of demographic changes....do you think you'll be better off as a result of them being removed and replaced by hispanics??


....The elected Black leadership won't be missed, and I'm willing to bet Hispanics would be more responsible to every community, and would truly act in the capacity as an elected office holder, than any one of the typical Black elected leaders.

....same response

....Heck Hispanic Gangmembers know what to do when agents and officials of government violate their rights.

"Ovando, a tattooed member of the 18th Street gang, received a $15-million settlement from the city of Los Angeles after spending 2 1/2 years in prison based on false testimony from Perez and Durden. Ovando's conviction was overturned in 1999." excerpt from the article entitled, "Perez Details Gang Member Framing".

The Hispanic gangmembers have a much better understanding of how the system works, than our own elected Black leaders.

The typical elected Black leaders, in a no good illegal immigrant serving foreigners at the expense of the residents of Compton no good Merv Dymally, "Brentwood" Burke, "Kerosene" Waters, Carpetbagging serving Hispanics at the expense of the Black community no good Martin Ludlow, Missing in Action Diane Watson, etc., etc., play games, use false pretenses to hold elected office, are sleazy, don't respect the rights of the citizen to redress for the atrocities of a government seriously gone awry, etc., etc.

Our own Black elected leaders would prefer to remain silent, serve themselves or personal friends, and/or side with the perpetrators than represent the people, or protect the rights of the law abiding, etc., etc., etc, as they are sworn under oath and mandated by law to do!

....mind you the sleaze and criminal actions of Officer Perez and Officer Durden, who are both Black, and other LAPD officers, have enabled numerous Hispanic Gang members to seek megabuck in damages as a result of the atrocities of the Rampart scandal, and resulted in numerous court cases being thrown out of court.

Perez and Durden were caught in the act of violating Hispanic gangmembers. Perez and Durden plea bargained with the courts,....plea bargained to snitch on other LAPD officers, so that Perez and Durden would receive leniency.

....as a minority, both of these officers, being Black, this should have been the very last thought for them to take advantage of the rights of known felons or criminals, the criminal element being illegal immigrants, Hispanic Gang members, and the like.

....Way to go Durden and Perez, you just made it possible for numerous Hispanic felons to become wealthy, at the expense of law abiding taxpayer's dollars,

......or at the very least, these individuals can start a new life, a means of making a living without resorting to criminal activity to make their ends.


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Originally posted by Kevin41:
I guess we know who we should vote for next time..... bs


......Demographic changes will do the job, since the typical Black elected leaders don't have the slightest idea of what is expected of an elected office holder, and the majority of the Black electorate have wasted their right to vote on misfits.


The typical Black elected leadership, and our own Black middle class have failed, and be it B.S., or otherwise it is not just me saying so!

.....Since this Black man has been shot, and Compton residents in the area have had their property damaged as a result of 120 rounds of ammunition fired by only police officers, the shooting and property damage being done without justification by Los Angeles County Sheriffs Department,

.....not a single Black elected leader has spoken out against this, and/or used his or her position of influence to hold Los Angeles County responsible for this activity! Brentwood Burke, no good illegal immigrant Merv Dymally, and Kerosene Waters are the elected representatives for Compton, California.

...Just a matter time though. It won't be long before Hispanics acquire their U.S. citizenship rights, and the right to vote,

...... meaning since Black people in positions of influence choose to be sleazy, look out for personal friends, are greedy, don't have a clue as to meaning of the essense of an elected respresentative....

.......demographic changes will remove "Brentwood" Burke, "Kerosene" Waters, "no good illegal immigrant serving foreign interests at the expense of Compton residents no good" Merv Dymally, "Carpet bagging no good serving Hispanics at the expense of the Black community" Martin Ludlow, "Loud mouth, spewing hatred for Caucasians getting no where Kerosene" Waters, "Once elected never seen or heard from again no good" Congresswoman Diane Watson, and/or other misfit Black elected leaders from office...

.....time after time the majority of the Black electorate have wasted their right to vote on misfits.

BS is not responsible, ignorance, sleaze, greed, and treason are on the other hand definitely the cause of this working against the best interest of the Black community activity!

Sincerely,

Michael Lofton
Lofton....do you think you'll be better off as a result of them (black misfit leadership)being removed and replaced by hispanics??
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Nice weather we've been having lately, don't you think?



I'm learning Kweli....I am a little slow but thanks for the advice........
Question: what to do if one of the main culprits that shoot up your neighborhood is the law enforcement? I'm not advocating anarchy, although it's very tempting, but how do you get corrupt cops out of the community?
Yep, the weather is nice. Can't say that for the leadership though. The leadership amount to a cesspool of disgrace!

Nice Weather we've been having lately.

"Question: what to do if one of the main culprits that shoot up your neighborhood is the law enforcement? I'm not advocating anarchy, although it's very tempting, but how do you get corrupt cops out of the community?" by Huey

....as for corrupt police officers, elected officials, etc.,......sue them for redress. Be it individually or collectively, a petitioner who stakes a claim for the wrongs of government seriously gone awry, is not going to receive much assistance from our own Black elected leaders though, because many times these individuals are also a big part of the problem.

Sincerely,

Michael Lofton
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Originally posted by Huey:
Question: what to do if one of the main culprits that shoot up your neighborhood is the law enforcement? I'm not advocating anarchy, although it's very tempting, but how do you get corrupt cops out of the community?


*Huey,

That is the key issue at this point and time, safety and not necessarily people getting checks to get the stucco on their homes repaired. Lives were endangered and the next time the community might not be so fortunate.....a settlement is retribution...but it cannot give you your child's smile on Christmas morning back.....
...and Poverty Pimping Ambulance Chasing no good Reverend Jessie Jackson is going to have a difficult time proving that this is the act of racist Caucasican cops, or that this was in fact a hate crime, because three of the Los Angeles County Shefiffs Officers who fired a portion of the 120 rounds, some of which hit an unarmed Black man, are in fact Black police officers!


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Jackson Seeks FBI Probe of Shooting
From a Times Staff Writer

May 16, 2005

The Rev. Jesse Jackson on Sunday called on the FBI and Justice Department to investigate the videotaped shooting in which 10 sheriff's deputies fired 120 shots on a residential block in Compton, an incident that officials have characterized as a case of "contagious fire."

Jackson visited the man who is suspected of leading deputies on a chase May 8 at his bedside at Harbor-UCLA Medical Center. Winston Hayes, 44, who was driving the SUV that deputies shot at, is recovering from bullet wounds he suffered when the chase ended on Butler Avenue early May 9. Hospital officials said he has asked that no information be given about his condition.

"This was a state of manic madness ... a source of scandal and shame," Jackson said. "The FBI should be involved. This was, in fact, a hate crime."

But Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department officials said the shooting got out of hand when deputies mistakenly believed they were being fired upon. Nine of the 10 deputies apologized for the shooting through a lawyer Friday, and Sheriff Lee Baca publicly questioned the deputies' response last week.

"We cannot question their sincerity" in apologizing, Jackson said while standing next to Hayes' two daughters, "but we can question their behavior."

Jackson's trip to L.A. came just days after the Rev. Al Sharpton visited with Hayes and denounced the deputies' actions.

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Michael Lofton

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Originally posted by Norland:
What the hell is an HISPANIC? There's no country named "HISPAN" on any maps that I own.


Hispanic

History of its US and Latin American usage
The usage of term Hispanic in the United States is believed to have come into mainstream prominence following its inclusion in a question in the 1980 U.S. Census, which asked people to voluntarily identify if they were of "Spanish/Hispanic origin or descent". However, the Spanish language equivalent of the term Hispanic (Hispano) has been in use since much earlier than in the US.

In Latin America, although the term is not as often used on the popular level in public discourse as a generalized ethnic label, a Hispano (Hispanic) is commonly regarded to be any person whose ancestry and practiced culture both stem "” whether in whole or in part "” from the people and culture of Spain, to the contrast of the non-Hispanic populations of Latin America. Thus in the Latin American context, when speaking of any given nation's Hispanic population, those who are implied includes creoles, mestizos and mulattos, but excludes indigenous Native Americans, the unmixed descendants of black African slaves, as well as excluding all other recent immigrants of various other races and nationalities now residing in Latin America, regardless of whether these excluded groups now use Spanish as their first and only language "” as is the case with Blacks and many Native Americans and recent immigrants.

This Latin American use of the term is more so evident in addresses regarding affairs of indigenous and African descended peoples made by government and minority agencies, where the creole, mestizo and mulatto collective majority and their culture, which is accredited as the national identity, is distinguished as Hispanic for purposes of contrast to the plight of national minorities.


....one reality is certain, Hispanics don't identify with U.S. born Black people!

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