Paaaaaalllllllllllllleeeze 'what a bowl of deer piss!'

This further confirms that Zinzinnati, Ohio sits at the heart of racism...

Fine

PS He should not be speaking on a state sponsored campus!

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This is where you want to flood emails to protest Nancy (German) Zimpher--the President of UC on her personal invite to Bill Bennett to speak on October 3, Tuesday!

Click on to her website here--- http://www.uc.edu/president/

Her email address is at the bottom of that website page.

Fine


PS Again, he should not be speaking on a state sponsored campus, period. But I am willing to bet that the pacifist pundants who live here will let this pass over and not protest as the majority of the black people--except Fine-- allow white folk to run over them....

Always Remember that: "Anytime We As A People Are Not Having Our WaySomeone Else Is Having Theirs...And It's Never To Our Advantage."

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He should not be speaking on a state sponsored campus!


And why might this be?

First William Bennett and next

Louis Farrahkan, Dick Gregory, Harry Belafonte, Danny Glover, Larry Elder

and others who have been associated with controversy.

This is a slipery slope that I don't wish to slide down.
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Louis Farrahkan, Dick Gregory, Harry Belafonte, Danny Glover, Larry Elder


...are men of color.

I am talking lemons not apples and oranges. Last I checked Will Bennett was white.

When a white person makes a negative remark about a person/or people of color--the perception is correct---it is a racist remark, because we are the victims of racism, period!

Until you or someone else of genius figures out how to eliminate us from under the yoke of racism/white supremacy, that is...!

Fine
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Originally posted by Fine:
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Louis Farrahkan, Dick Gregory, Harry Belafonte, Danny Glover, Larry Elder


...are men of color.

I am talking lemons not apples and oranges. Last I checked Will Bennett was white.

When a white person makes a negative remark about a person/or people of color--the perception is correct---it is a racist remark, because we are the victims of racism, period!

Until you or someone else of genius figures out how to eliminate us from under the yoke of racism/white supremacy, that is...!

Fine


....Considering the scenario, a parent without the means to provide the necessities of life and the moral compass of direction for a child, would be doing the child a great service by not having the child, by not subjecting a child to conditions not conducive to success, that lead to death, a short life span, prison, mental insanity, poverty, etc.......

....and the statement made by Bennett is not racist, because this activity is going on, and until responsible parents take control of their kids, and/or discipline themselves to stop this activity, diminished population growth through abortion of any Black child whose parents choose not to be responsible parents:

A. Reduce the chance of yet one more Black child growing up on welfare.

B. Reduce the chance of yet one more Black child being used as fodder for the penitentiary.

C. Reduce the expense to taxpayers who must foot the bill for AFDC and/or welfare benefits. Far too many single Black women choose to use their children as pawns to collect Social Welfare and/or AFDC benefits, and damn the well being of their children.

D. Reduce the opportunity of sleazy and greedy Black social workers, Black probation officers, Black child care providers, no good Black elected officials, no good poverty pimping jack leg Black preachers, no good AFDC benefit administrators, and/or other individuals who use defenseless Black children dependent on government benefits, as a means to collect AFDC benefits to purchase a luxury vehicle, expensive clothing, take vacations abroad, all at the expense of the child.

The AFDC benefits earmarked to benefit children dependent on government support for a child's survival, end up being used to finance the sleazy and the greedy. This is the reality and a disgraceful set of circumstances that is very prevalent in the Black community.

The foregoing is part of the legacy of the Democratic Party, as it relates to the destructive to the posterity of the sanctity of Black family structure no good worthless social welfare economy that is very prevalent in predominently Black communities throughout the United States of America.

E. It is a fact there would be a huge reduction in criminal activity, in that the odds of a Black child growing up to be criminal, is much greater when a child's parents are not being responsible parents!


Until this activity is arrested, the idea of abortion to reduce the trend of senseless criminal activity and/or blatant corruption by government employees who use defenseless Black children to feather their own nest, the idea of abortion would diminish the possibility of yet one more Black child being used as "fodder" for the social welfare or penal incarceration systems.

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The Black community being only 13% of the population within the U.S, there are more Black men and women in prison than any other ethnic group! Based on percentages Black people are more likely to be prison inmates than university graduates, successful business persons, productive members of society, etc.

....would it make any difference as to the source of this reality, which is indeed the reality of it? It would be more important in this instance to instead deal with the reality of the message being played over and over again, and not condemnation of any messenger.

What Bennet states is true, because:

...indeed the Black community has the highest percentage of its' population soon to be serving prison time, serving prison time, and/or going through that revolving door to return to a life of penal incarceration......

......namely because of an inept leadership, a failing Black middleclass, and without gainful employment opportunities.....

........ even the most resourceful or talented individuals will soon take chances to make ends meet that can lead to incarceration.

...it is indeed cruel and criminal to bring a child into the world and not have the means to provide for the child's survival.

Far too many Black children, and/or their parents are heavily dependent upon poverty programs, social welfare, etc., as opposed to gainful employment, less government influence, etc., over their lives....

........which as Bennet has stated in so many words, the abortion of Black children would:

F. Reduce the number of Black people who end up in prison.

G. Reduce the number of Black people who are killed by police officers as a result of the police officer performing his duty to serve, defend, and/or protect the public, against criminal activity perpetrated by Black people.

H. Reduce the number of Black people who are now six feet under because of senseless Black on Black violence.

I. Reduce the number of Black children who are born sane, but as life evolves they become candidates for a mental institution, become strung out on "crack cocaine", are doomed for a lifetime of relying on failing never designed to provide the necessities of life being phased out social welfare programs, begging for useless affirmative action benefits, etc., etc.

It is up to our own Black leadership to make change within themselves to truly serve the Black community, and/or use their influence to make the necessary reforms to reverse this reality, by being ethical, lawful, competent, unselfish, loyal, and/or other qualities of leadership that have the chance of turning the tide on the truly bleak reality that far too many Black people who live below the poverty line face!


....Racist or not, there is some validity to this, because Black people more than any other ethnic group are involved in senseless criminal acts, criminal acts where the perpetrators and the victims, are predominately Black.

Sincerely,

Michael Lofton
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Originally posted by Fine:
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Louis Farrahkan, Dick Gregory, Harry Belafonte, Danny Glover, Larry Elder


...are men of color.

I am talking lemons not apples and oranges. Last I checked Will Bennett was white.

When a white person makes a negative remark about a person/or people of color--the perception is correct---it is a racist remark, because we are the victims of racism, period!

Until you or someone else of genius figures out how to eliminate us from under the yoke of racism/white supremacy, that is...!

Fine


So you are saying that "racial 'hate speech'", going with your assumption that this what his comments were for a second, should be punishment by "censorship" in your view?

Of the "men of color" on this list a few of them have a long history of making generalizations against White folks. They would quickly find themselves caught up in this same web of censorship that you are attempting to cast.

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It seems to me that the best way to "eliminate Black folks from under the yoke of racism/white supremacy" ASSUMING that these same Black people are free people and able to order their time/money/talents in ways of their own choosing - is to CUT THE LINKS OF DEPENDENCY from these same "White Supremacists" that you are so concerned about.

With economic separation and the subsequent knowledge base that is built from within, the concept of PHYSICAL separation becomes that much easier if that is what you choose to do as well.
How Our Own No Good Elected Black Leaders, Poverty Pimps, etc., Exploit the Black Community.....


......but it so much easier to blame William Bennet, President George Bush, Secretary of State Condoleeza Rice, Racist Caucasians, The Bush Administration, "the Sage of South Central Los Angeles" Larry Elder, the Ban of Affirmation Action, the Denial of Reparations for Slavery, the Cow that jumped over the Moon, etc., etc., etc., etc......

....for problems that Black people bring upon themselves, and issues that Black people more then any other ethnic group should be making it their business to competently resolve!


"Taking a stand for what is right has put me at odds with the civil-rights establishment. I have endured all kinds of name-calling and intimidation tactics ... But I understand that I am fighting against evil. Those names mean nothing to me. They are the pitiful words of cowards who do not have right on their side. By letting them pass, I am able to continue standing up for what is right ... It is now time for white Americans to realize they are part of the same battle."

"Scam: How the Black Leadership Exploits Black America," Rev. Jesse Lee Peterson; Pg. 87

One of the first series of questions I am most often asked is: "Where are you from? Where did you grow up? Where were you raised?" As if my answering those questions will somehow answer the unasked question – that being, "How can you, a black man, think the way you do?"

And just how do I think?

I think a man deserves what he earns. I think and believe that while the field of opportunity is level (contrary to popular myth), not all will achieve the same.

I think that the hate-filled cretin from Rhode Island who wrote me spewing bile and venom is a racist who happens to be white. And I'm certain he is not the only one. But I am also aware that there are Louis Farrakhans and Cynthia McKinney's.

I think slavery was wrong and immoral, but it was not illegal. I agree in principle with Robert E. Lee, who in a letter to his wife Mary Custis Lee, called slavery "a moral and political evil," while concluding that black slaves were immeasurably better off here than in Africa, morally, socially and physically. Except, I believe it was God Himself providing for a people who would later curse His name and praise the false god of the very people who originally enslaved them.

I think the reparationists must be challenged to acknowledge the truth – that being "that ... free blacks disproportionately became slave masters" right here in America ("Dixie's censored subject – black slaveowners" by Robert M. Grooms).

Antoinette Harrell-Miller, a claimant in the multi-billion dollar action against Lloyd's of London is quoted as saying, "Like every other ethnic group living in America, I have a right to know who I am." Not to be rude or deliberately acerbic, but I would say, "She is Antoinette Miller, a race huckster and profiteer." But I digress.

I find it interesting that these hate-filled extortionists claim "Lloyd's of London and others must repair the damage they caused." Interesting because they leave out African and Muslim accountability. They omit the truth of black participation in the Civil War. Scott K. Williams in his "Black Confederates Fact Page" writes that 65,000 plus Southern blacks fought in the Confederate ranks. He also writes that they were compensated for their efforts in land and money, some blacks earning more than officers.

I challenge these necrophagous ghouls who seek to make gain through immiseration to tell the truth. How many Americans are aware that in New Orleans over 3,000 freed slaves owned slaves? The fact is large numbers of free Negroes owned black slaves.

How many are aware successful businessman and cotton farmer William Ellison derived a major source of his income from being a "slave breeder" – a practice that was looked down upon throughout the South? Yet Ellison, a successful black businessman and slaveowner, secretly practiced it.

It would seem reasonable that if the reparation harlots were interested in truth, they would have these facts available as part of their suit. It is easy to bastardize and label as evil whites. But where is the vilification of the thousands of blacks who also practiced slavery?

The liberal media is quick to point to race-baiters as leaders in the black community. Therein I believe lies a major part of the problem: The black community is not a community unto itself, it is part of America.

Blacks do not need leaders defined by the media. They have them. At present they are President Bush and his administration. They have 535 total representatives being divided as prescribed state by state as do we all. They have governors and lobbyists, as do we all.

I think it is time for Americans who happen to be black to divest themselves of the "African hyphen American" foolishness. In truth, blacks today are no more African than I am mezzo-soprano. Teresa Heinz-Kerry is more authentic African-American than Jesse Jackson, she having been born in Mozambique.

I'll take the petty name-calling, because I am right. And it will only be when all of America realizes the truth of this that we will truly have a "United" States.

Mychal Massie is a nationally recognized political activist, pundit and columnist. He is host of the widely popular talk show "Straight Talk." He has appeared on the Fox News Channel, CNN, MSNBC, NBC, Comcast Cable and talk radio programming nationwide. He is a former self-employed business owner of over 30 years and a member of the conservative public policy institute National Center for Public Policy Research-Project 21." by Mychal Massie


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Too many negatives are connected with AA being possible, and begging for the continuation of doomed for failure AA benefits or programs is not doing the Black community any service!


......supporting and defending sleaze, and misfits is closer to the reality of it, to which more so than any racism on the part of Caucasians, Black people are sending themselves to the gallows.....

.....and the message is being circulated, and although a few Black people are in denial, the rise of those who are not in denial is growing by leaps and bounds!


Sincerely,

Michael Lofton
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Originally posted by Fine:
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Louis Farrahkan, Dick Gregory, Harry Belafonte, Danny Glover, Larry Elder


...are men of color.

I am talking lemons not apples and oranges. Last I checked Will Bennett was white.

When a white person makes a negative remark about a person/or people of color--the perception is correct---it is a racist remark, because we are the victims of racism, period!

Until you or someone else of genius figures out how to eliminate us from under the yoke of racism/white supremacy, that is...!

Fine


The point is that if you denied one person of controversy the right to speak then the slippery slope is that all persons are denied the right to speak including those who speak in defense of and for us.
well....I guess it is time for some brother or sister to say how killing off all white babies would benefit the earth....now everyone knows that the other side cannot take 1/100th of what they give....so guess killing off white babies would avoid tim mcveighs and jeffery dalhmers huh?
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well....I guess it is time for some brother or sister to say how killing off all white babies would benefit the earth....now everyone knows that the other side cannot take 1/100th of what they give....so guess killing off white babies would avoid tim mcveighs and jeffery dalhmers huh?


...You've only mentioned two individuals, the individuals being Tim Mcveigh and Jeffery Dalhmer, as justification for aborting Caucasian babies......

........which is a far cry from the reality that exists in the Black community a community that is at the bottom of the heap be it morally, professionally, having the most inept leadership, corruption, the most self destructive criminal activity, or otherwise!


Sincerely,

Michael Lofton
He only mentioned the two probably because there is not enough space on this board to list all the white men who have done evil in their lives.
So now we are doing comparisons on what is more evil, white men killing black folks and using instiutional racism to keep black folk down or the failed black leaders that don't make racist polices in this country.
if that is how you would like to interpret it....so be it....I just like to hear him castigate black people and go hush on whites or defend them...as if certain schit is exclusive to blacks. I am testing him for consistency and he's pretty damn good at it. I think it is a true measure of tommin skills. If anyone has a problem with it they should ask him why does he do it? I gave my reason...........
....More likely, the Black people who fit the description, which is indeed a large number of them, castigate themselves, all by themselves.

...no need for me to leave Los Angeles, because as the concentration of Black people falls so does the crime rate. Los Angeles, especially South Central Los Angeles is safer now that the concentration of Black people is much less.

Washington D.C. Black Shameful activity!

Seattle Black on Black crime!

Detroit Black on Black Crime!

Atlanta is not the Mecca for Blacks as claimed!

Heck, the same or similar self-destructive and genocidal activity can be said for Washington, D.C., Baltimore, MD., Detroit, MI, and/or other predominately Black communities as it relates to Black on Black crime. Neither racist Caucasians, nor the Bush Administration are responsible for this self destructive activity. Although I live in Los Angeles I'm from Baltimore. I've seen enough of Detroit, MI as well to remain where I am, as opposed to communities that are stagnant.

Although it has been said that Atlanta, GA is a great place for Black people, those who live there have similiar issues as it relates to Black on Black crime, substandard schools, an inept elected Black leadershipship, etc., etc. Black people who choose to move there can have Atlanta, because like other predominately Black communities the same or similar self destructive, disgraceful, treasonous activity takes place.

This being said, I choose to remain in Los Angeles, California, the economy of California being one of the wealthiest most productive economies in the world. South Central Los Angeles is experiencing economic growth for the first time since the riot of 1965, not because of any contribution of the Black middleclass, or any worthwhile leadership from our own inept elected leadership, but because of the influx of newly arrived immigrants.

Sincerely,

Michael Lofton
According to my relatives in Atlanta, Auburn Ave. has historical value as one of the most affluent parts of the city of Black Atlantans.
"According to my relatives in Atlanta, Auburn Ave. has historical value as one of the most affluent parts of the city of Black Atlantans." by Huey

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Researcher: Atlanta Not A Mecca For Most Blacks

ATLANTA (AP) Atlanta does not live up to its reputation as the land of opportunity for blacks, a Clark Atlanta University study concludes.

``Very little progress had been made in the 1990s, despite the fact that there has been a lot of growth,'' said Bob Holmes, director of the CAU's Southern Center for Studies in Public Policy. ``Atlanta being a mecca for blacks is true for only a third of the blacks in Atlanta.''

Holmes' findings released Wednesday are in the new edition of ``The Status of Black Atlanta,'' an annual collection of reports based on census data and analysis of telephone surveys, reviews of media clippings, interviews and other urban policy studies. The 2003 edition looks at, among other things, the shortage of public housing, the lack of blacks in telecommunications and the socio-economic conditions of black and white Atlantans.

Using U.S. census data, Holmes wrote that a disproportionately higher percentage of blacks live below the poverty line. In 1990, the economic gap was 24.8 percent, with 33.9 percent of blacks living in poverty, compared with 9.1 percent of whites.

In 2000, those numbers changed only slightly to a 24.5 percent gap, as 33 percent of blacks remained poor, compared with 8.5 percent of whites. ``These numbers show that blacks have made little progress in reducing their poverty, compared to whites,'' Holmes said. Reasons for the disparities include high unemployment rates, low homeownership rates and low business development, Holmes said.

While more blacks live in Atlanta, more whites are college graduates. That, said Holmes, allows whites to secure better jobs and make more money than blacks.

The number of black residents dropped from 67.1 percent of the population in 1990 to 61.4 percent in 2000.

By the 2005 election, Holmes said, blacks will represent about 50 percent of the registered voters, because of the influx of whites moving into the city and the numbers of blacks moving out.

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The Los Angeles Times published an article relating to the progress of Blacks in Atlanta. Black people who migrated from the North East to Atlanta as reported in the article found out first hand that Atlanta is not the mecca for Blacks as claimed.

Their reasons for drawing this conclusion being substandard schools, employment issues, crime, poor Black leadership, etc., etc., information that mirrors the above article.
I always wondered why some black people criticize the leadership but never have any alternate solutions to propose..I guess this can be a bitch and moan board if everyone refuses to listen to that bullschit in real life...I damn sure wouldn't listen....unless someone is talkling about something productive, they can take their azz down the road..life is too short and too busy to listen to grown azz supposedly black men cry like babies and complain like teenage girls.......what happened to rolling your own sleeves up and making change happen your damn self? That is right..it is easier to gab than it is to do.....and change things....
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I always wondered why some black people criticize the leadership but never have any alternate solutions to propose..I guess this can be a bitch and moan board if everyone refuses to listen to that bullschit in real life...I damn sure wouldn't listen....unless someone is talkling about something productive, they can take their azz down the road..life is too short and too busy to listen to grown azz supposedly black men cry like babies and complain like teenage girls.......what happened to rolling your own sleeves up and making change happen your damn self? That is right..it is easier to gab than it is to do.....and change things....


No one with any assets, or who strives to provide the best for their family is going to invest in any high crime, low regard for life, failing public schools, welfare saturated community, conditions that typically are a way of life in most Black communities.

Businesses seek to invest in areas more conducive to the growth of a business. In far too many Black communities our own leadership leadership have failed, the Black middleclass have failed, and the underclass are in no position to raise the quality of life in the Black community.

Enough material exist to prove that our own leadership have failed. This has nothing to do with me or anyone else crying. Individuals with assets are not going to invest, relocate, etc., in any community that does not have the potential to increase their asset holdings, offer a good safe environment for the health of families, etc., etc.

The other day, an article published in the Los Angeles Times stated although it is tragic that many Blacks have been, continue, or will be displaced as a result of Hurricane Katrina, and the failure of the levies, this natural disaster uprooted welfare recipients, illicit drug addicts, the homeless, career criminals, and/or other undesirable individuals without any cost to the city officials, law enforcement, city planners, taxpayers, etc., to remove them.

The business community, investors now look at New Orleans as being a safe haven that has a greater potential for private business investment. Reduced criminal activity, lower crime rates, etc., etc. translates into lower business insurance costs, greater productivity, lower prices to consumers, lower cost providers, lower business operation costs, etc., etc., so much so, that New Orleans will be in a much stronger economic standing because the "dead weight" has been uplifted by the forces of nature from New Orleans!

After the riot of 1965 the business community vacated South Central Los Angeles, Compton, etc., never to return. Only here recently, as the result of demograghic shifts, a lower overall crime rate in the South Central Los Angeles has the business community shown any interest to invest in South Central Los Angeles.

Bottom line, until Black people on mass improve the quality of life, the standards for their schools, reduce criminal activity, etc., etc., slim chance exists where anyone, to which affluent Black people would be inclusive, would be interested in investing their time, money, or any other resource in the Black community.

This is a fact of life, because productive areas seek to raise the standards, make their community safe, as an incentive for business investment, as an incentive for the affluent to move into the community, etc., etc.


Sincerely,

Michael Lofton
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i see why some of you urban types stay in a cycle os despair....between the lack of opportunities and the castigation by blacks like yourself aiding the white fight against them...a young black wouls be best served by leaving your type behind, going to improve themselves educationally somewhere else in the country and coming back to help those who are willing...and leave negroes who want to kill each other and steal each other's schit and people like you kissing the white man's azz and working against any and all group efforts the f-k alone. I am so glad I grew up in Texas where black people did not hate each other so much and had so much more respect and love for each other.....I come from a place where black people who are strangers always speak in passing...this chit out here I do not even understand....and I will do my job and contribute my time, money and knowledge to help uplift other blacks but I'll never be able to identify with or socially embrace those of you with pathological thoughts towards your own......man I am glad I come from somewhere my views of black people as a whole are not so fucked up.....
i see why some of you urban types stay in a cycle os despair....between the lack of opportunities and the castigation by blacks like yourself aiding the white fight against them...a young black wouls be best served by leaving your type behind, going to improve themselves educationally somewhere else in the country and coming back to help those who are willing...and leave negroes who want to kill each other and steal each other's schit and people like you kissing the white man's azz and working against any and all group efforts the f-k alone. I am so glad I grew up in Texas where black people did not hate each other so much and had so much more respect and love for each other.....I come from a place where black people who are strangers always speak in passing...this chit out here I do not even understand....and I will do my job and contribute my time, money and knowledge to help uplift other blacks but I'll never be able to identify with or socially embrace those of you with pathological thoughts towards your own......man I am glad I come from somewhere my views of black people as a whole are not so fucked up....." by Kevin41

....here lately the Black community has a history of kicking itself to the curb!

....AA is worthless as it can get and has yet to benefit me and or anyone else within my circle.

Again I only credit where it is do, AA not being do credit of any sort as it applies to Michael Lofton.

If anything I attribute the opportunity to be gainfully employed with the largest Municipal Utility in the U.S., as partial payment for the unwarranted time spent behind bars, the illegal and unwarranted transgression against the Lofton family, as a result of the wrongful and illegal acts on the part of agents and officials of government here in Los Angeles County, my own sacrifice to succeed, and not any form of worthless affirmative action programs of any sort.

In this case Kevin41s erroneous assessment is totally irrelevant, and the response will be the same. Kevin41 can only define himself. Kevin41's personal views on Affirmative Action have abolutely no connection to my success, or any connection to Michael Lofton being employed by the City of Los Angeles.

Sincerely,

Michael Lofton
There is no slippery slope. All black people in this country are VOR--victims of racism.

[Black people must be very knowledgeable and clear about this state of affairs. Our lack of knowledge and wisdom will be our own undoing.]

You can not be a victim of racism and be a racist at the same time. Only one type of supremacy can exist in this world--and at the present time--it is the White Racist Supremacy Global System--has been for the past 500 years. It is undetectable because it is refined, vast, and intricate beyond recognition.

Four Stages are:

1. Establishment--getting it started.
2. Maintenance--keeping it going.
3. Expansion--victimizing each black
person born into its social system
every second of every minute of every
hour of every year of every decade.
4. Refinement--no longer looks like it is what
it is.

...All white people are not racist. But those who are--are much smarter than those who aren't and know how to use this knowledge to their ultimate advantage...

--Dr. Neely Fuller, "The United Independent Compensatory Code/System/Concept for thought, speech and/or action for victims of racism (white supremacy)."

I digress.

Any time a White Person makes a negative statement against a VOR--individually or collectively--it is a racial threat, period.

[Have we not forgotten that the apple does not fall far from the tree? Remember, you smile and grin at the same barbaric ancestors' people who beat, maimed, hung, chained and generally oppressed your 'great' ancestors...]

The so-called Fake leaders have no power. They are puppets serving someone other than who they claim. If this were not so, any one of them would--by now--have devised a plan to put us in a soverign state of being; rather than encouraging the course of actions we now see in place by these same so-Called Fake leaders--you know what I mean--like expecting black folk to jump thru hoops and loops via marching, clapping and dancing around in circles! This steppin' fetchit' chyt is no longer applicable!


Fine

PS I am not an AA but rather a Black woman borne in America/I Am Race. Surely, I embrace the rich culture and thoroughly appreciate the fact that Afrika is the "Cradle of All Civilization."

PSS The solution is in 'the words' we think we know how to use but don't!!!

PSSS Malcolm X was on the right track and before he could get with Martin Luther King and devise a plan they were both wiped out....
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Racism and Supremacy is nothing but a gigantic GANG BANG of hatred with heaps of fire power. A supreme ELIMINATION OF LIFE. ALL LIFE, including theirs.
There are two solution-oriented black men out there that I know of and they are eloquent in speech and well-versed.

1. Claud Anderson, Ed.D
2. Michale Eric Dyson, Ph.D.

To gather a elliptical understanding of solutions that these two strong black men offer one must read. Reading is fundamental.

Fine
Wait a minute. Hold on. Micheal Lofton, are you black?

Don't take this the wrong way but it doesn't seem like it. It seems as though you are doing what is so prevalent amongst the white community today, and that is removing the blame from the white race for black people's faults, and placing the blame upon black people COMPLETELY and saying we are responsible for the situation that we are in today.

So you mean to tell me that it is our parents and grandparents fault for them going to school (if they were lucky enough) and having no other choice but to use grossly outdated learning material such as books some 20 years old or older?

So you mean to tell me that it was our grandparents and parents fault for having a sub-par education which led them not being able to assimilate into "the white successful way" of life which mainly consisted of having an excellent paying CAREER and owning ones decently sized home?

You mean to tell me that it was our grandparents and parents fault for having to work seriously long hours to make ends meet and as a result not be home at ideal times of the day to instill within their children all that was necessary to "make it successfully in the white man's world?"

So you mean to tell me that it is OUR fault that a large percentage of us had broken households and poor upbringings which was a direct result of our parents and grandparents subpar upbringings (by subpar I mean all those negative things that our parents and grandarents had to endure)? And that this directly translates into MOST of the problems that are prevalent in the black community today? Are you saying that all of this is entirely black people's fault???

Are you saying that it was fair and just that a large percentage of "white wealth and power" was ill-got from the time they stepped foot on this continent till now which gave them an unfair head start and advantage on success and power in a system that they created and made sure that black people would not be allowed to socially and economically progress?

Are you saying that we as black people should be "caught up to" white people to this day even with all the obstacles we have had to endure and are still enduring?

Are you saying that we are lazy people that should all at once completely forget the atrocities that white people have done to us in this country and get up off our arses and be positively productive?

Well I ask you this mr. lofton, how can this be done when the majority of black people that are in the negative situations that you are so quick to point out because of the direct effect of what white people did to our parents and grandparents in the past?

You see mr. lofton, its easy to point out ones flaws. Your taking the easy route by pointing out all of our flaws and problems of today, but failing to equally point out how it is that black people got into the negative situations that we are in today.

Without proper knowledge and understanding of our past on a large scale within the black community, there is no hope for a positive future for us. We as a people will never be successful in this white man's world until we recognize what has been and is being done to us as a people.

And if you say that I am some lazy afrocentric conspiracy theorist blaming the white man for all our problems than you are sadly mistaken.

The only way for black people to come together and be united in acheiving positive social and economic progress is if we break the cycle of negative progress where it starts, IN OUR OWN HOMES. Time and time again, you have heard it before. We as a people need to recognize how we ended up in the state we are in today and realize that the only way to fix the problem is to start by bringing our children up "right." Only then can we "cut the problem off at its neck" and insure that our children are well euipped to "make it in a white man's world."

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It is amazing how people really come across as stupid people who cannot even answer a direct question...how is the world supposed to take them serious on anything when they cannot even engage in communication on a grade-school level?
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Originally posted by Kevin41:
It is amazing how people really come across as stupid people who cannot even answer a direct question...how is the world supposed to take them serious on anything when they cannot even engage in communication on a grade-school level?


You ain't never lied!

Dude just replied with my words!
I cannot believe I wasted time even trying to reach those clowns...I guess the educator in me makes me believe that all people will embrace facts...even in the midst of their own flawed philosophy.......and those links probably lead back to some previous ramblings about how f-ked up black people are.....it only took me a couple of times....and i do not even click on them anymore....we all come to our senses...eventually.......
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Originally posted by Kevin41:
I cannot believe I wasted time even trying to reach those clowns...I guess the educator in me makes me believe that all people will embrace facts...even in the midst of their own flawed philosophy.......and those links probably lead back to some previous ramblings about how f-ked up black people are.....it only took me a couple of times....and i do not even click on them anymore....we all come to our senses...eventually.......


I don't know man. I have been reading some of this stuff that this Lofton character has written and he seems to be too far gone if he is black. I mean,it seems as if he has some SERIOUS self hate issues going on within himself if he is black.
where is that paragraph you posted about those who cannot look down upon whites and as a result use blacks as a medium to attain their own sense of self-adequacy (not in those exact words)? I have been looking for that all morning...it is amazing when other people can say what I am thinking more clearly than I can.....priceless....
Answer to Bennett
Harold M. Clemens:

"Hypothetically speaking, if we wanted to reduce rape, pedophilia, extortion, identity theft, fraud, hate crimes, voter disenfranchisement, witness intimidation, perjury, mass murder, school shootings, serial murders, unjustified wars in the U.S.; to reduce rape, pedophilia, extortion, identity theft, fraud, hate crimes, voter disenfranchisement, witness intimidation, perjury, mass murder, school shootings, serial murders, and unjustified wars alone, we could abort all white male babies. Of course such a thing would be morally reprehensible, ridiculous, and impossible, but..." Big Grin

I have this gentlemen's website posted in my favorites, but I didn't write it down as I was copying this. He also had a story in last Thursday's blackcommentator.com. He's comical.
yeah...there is even a problem with direct communication where one cannot answer a question directly with their own words.....it is really a dysfunctional style at best.....to each his own......

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