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Originally posted by LieDecrypter:
Another way in which one can detect the decline in U.S. power or the American "white man's" power... is as it relates to foreign policy. I hope everyone noticed that during the little flare up with the Russians the U.S. could do little but make empty threats.

This is because it has virtually NO leverage this should be shocking to those who still believe that the U.S. is a 'Superpower'. People need to wake up and FAST and realize that the 'leaders' of this nation have turned the once most powerful nation on earth into one that can no longer wield any true power on the international stage...

The ramifications of this are yet to be realized by the average American but the fallout from this rapid decline in international influence will be devastating....


For YT yes... so what? We've been suffering reguardless...

I say, "Fall Amerikkka fall!" dance
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Originally posted by Oshun Auset:
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Originally posted by LieDecrypter:
Another way in which one can detect the decline in U.S. power or the American "white man's" power... is as it relates to foreign policy. I hope everyone noticed that during the little flare up with the Russians the U.S. could do little but make empty threats.

This is because it has virtually NO leverage this should be shocking to those who still believe that the U.S. is a 'Superpower'. People need to wake up and FAST and realize that the 'leaders' of this nation have turned the once most powerful nation on earth into one that can no longer wield any true power on the international stage...

The ramifications of this are yet to be realized by the average American but the fallout from this rapid decline in international influence will be devastating....


For YT yes... so what? We've been suffering reguardless...

I say, "Fall Amerikkka fall!" dance



the only questions remaining is whether the dominant society will lose their ever loving mind???, or adjust to being a 2nd tier power, or powerless in the world?
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Originally posted by Kocolicious:
fro Unlike ancient civilizations that flourished for millions of years....except for Chinese/Japanese dynasties...barbaric and ignorant societies especially those based on power of violence, control and religion...rarely last longer than a few thousand years. Wonder why...Eek fro


Well...the Chinese civilazation has been around for about 5000 years yet has never really waged a war of expansion beyond it's borders...it has been ruled by outside forces in it's long history such as the Mongols and Manchurians...However the Japanese civilation is only about 2000 years old and has waged several expansionist wars....most notably it's annexation of the Korean peninsula around 1910 and it's invasion of Manchuria and China proper in the 1930's. Inspite of this Japan still does have a long history although this can be attributed to it's long periods of isolation and it's uncanny ability to adapt. The U.S. however does not have the luxury of isolation nor can it properly adapt because it's too big and too diverse..not like the virtually homogenous Japanese. So the U.S. is much more vulnerable to the consequences of it's own actions as it cannot be as easily guided back to right track....
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Originally posted by negrospiritual:
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Originally posted by LieDecrypter:
Another way in which one can detect the decline in U.S. power or the American "white man's" power... is as it relates to foreign policy. I hope everyone noticed that during the little flare up with the Russians the U.S. could do little but make empty threats.

This is because it has virtually NO leverage this should be shocking to those who still believe that the U.S. is a 'Superpower'. People need to wake up and FAST and realize that the 'leaders' of this nation have turned the once most powerful nation on earth into one that can no longer wield any true power on the international stage...

The ramifications of this are yet to be realized by the average American but the fallout from this rapid decline in international influence will be devastating....


the majority of american people did not stop the current ultra-corrupt administration from engaging the military in two simultaneous wars. Those few who protested were deemed unpatriotic and relegated to "fringe" status. An example of extreme hubris on the part of the govt and "the people", I believe. Why didn't the so called legislators say WHOA! this country can neither afford nor successfully wage 2 simultaneous wars, what are yall thinking?


I was not just limiting my statement to this current administration (although it has done it's share of damage) I was referring to the cumulative effect of where this arrogant, self absorbed white supremacist mentality has lead this country from it's INCEPTION..what we are witnessing now is just the beginning of it's unraveling....
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Originally posted by Oshun Auset:
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Originally posted by LieDecrypter:
Another way in which one can detect the decline in U.S. power or the American "white man's" power... is as it relates to foreign policy. I hope everyone noticed that during the little flare up with the Russians the U.S. could do little but make empty threats.

This is because it has virtually NO leverage this should be shocking to those who still believe that the U.S. is a 'Superpower'. People need to wake up and FAST and realize that the 'leaders' of this nation have turned the once most powerful nation on earth into one that can no longer wield any true power on the international stage...

The ramifications of this are yet to be realized by the average American but the fallout from this rapid decline in international influence will be devastating....


For YT yes... so what? We've been suffering reguardless...

I say, "Fall Amerikkka fall!" dance


I hear you...however one must be circumspect regarding the implications of such a fall...and how that will impact him and his people and how also to prepare for it....
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Originally posted by Oshun Auset:
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Originally posted by negrospiritual:
the only questions remaining is whether the dominant society will lose their ever loving mind???, or adjust to being a 2nd tier power, or powerless in the world?


When were they sane?



point taken, you are right, but judging from talk radio, they're gonna have to find somebody to BLAME, other than themselves...

the american way sck
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Originally posted by LieDecrypter:
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Originally posted by Oshun Auset:
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Originally posted by LieDecrypter:
Another way in which one can detect the decline in U.S. power or the American "white man's" power... is as it relates to foreign policy. I hope everyone noticed that during the little flare up with the Russians the U.S. could do little but make empty threats.

This is because it has virtually NO leverage this should be shocking to those who still believe that the U.S. is a 'Superpower'. People need to wake up and FAST and realize that the 'leaders' of this nation have turned the once most powerful nation on earth into one that can no longer wield any true power on the international stage...

The ramifications of this are yet to be realized by the average American but the fallout from this rapid decline in international influence will be devastating....


For YT yes... so what? We've been suffering reguardless...

I say, "Fall Amerikkka fall!" dance


I hear you...however one must be circumspect regarding the implications of such a fall...and how that will impact him and his people and how also to prepare for it....


Isn't it too late to prepare for the 'already in progress' decline, if one hasn't already?

I understand what you are worried about from your previous posts... but most of 'our' folk who are worried about the 'decline of Amerikkka' seem to be far more worried that they are going to loose the scraps they are being thrown from the imperialist table... Which is sad IMO.

Personally. I've been singing, "Oh happy Day!" cabbage
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Originally posted by negrospiritual:
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Originally posted by Oshun Auset:
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Originally posted by negrospiritual:
the only questions remaining is whether the dominant society will lose their ever loving mind???, or adjust to being a 2nd tier power, or powerless in the world?


When were they sane?



point taken, you are right, but judging from talk radio, they're gonna have to find somebody to BLAME, other than themselves...

the american way sck


Very true... what else is new?

Hey that rhymes!

Seriously though... Our people just aren't prepared period... which is disturbing. IMO, who 'gets it' did/does, and who hasn't hasn't/won't... Not to say we shouldn't try to get others on board... but we have basically run out of time. It's the 11th hour and all thoughs who figure it out from this point on are in for a mad scramble to play 'catch up'.
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Originally posted by Oshun Auset:
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Originally posted by LieDecrypter:
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Originally posted by Oshun Auset:
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Originally posted by LieDecrypter:
Another way in which one can detect the decline in U.S. power or the American "white man's" power... is as it relates to foreign policy. I hope everyone noticed that during the little flare up with the Russians the U.S. could do little but make empty threats.

This is because it has virtually NO leverage this should be shocking to those who still believe that the U.S. is a 'Superpower'. People need to wake up and FAST and realize that the 'leaders' of this nation have turned the once most powerful nation on earth into one that can no longer wield any true power on the international stage...

The ramifications of this are yet to be realized by the average American but the fallout from this rapid decline in international influence will be devastating....


For YT yes... so what? We've been suffering reguardless...

I say, "Fall Amerikkka fall!" dance


I hear you...however one must be circumspect regarding the implications of such a fall...and how that will impact him and his people and how also to prepare for it....


Isn't it too late to prepare for the 'already in progress' decline, if one hasn't already?

I understand what you are worried about from your previous posts... but most of 'our' folk who are worried about the 'decline of Amerikkka' seem to be far more worried that they are going to loose the scraps they are being thrown from the imperialist table... Which is sad IMO.

Personally. I've been singing, "Oh happy Day!" cabbage


I'm not referring to being prepared as it relates to trying to maintain ones current situation i.e., worrying about "loosing the scraps they are being thrown from the imperialist table." I'm referring to the necessity that Blacks should start looking at themselves differently from the old white racist socio-economic framework and take this as an opportunity to embrace a new identity outside of those old borders.
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I say, "Fall Amerikkka fall!"


Ok....Well....I have a question: How would this benefit black Americans? Why would black people not be negatively impacted by this so-called demise of America that you wish? And just exaclty how would black Americans remain unscathed and unaffected by the collapse of white America? Details please.......
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Originally posted by LieDecrypter:
I'm not referring to being prepared as it relates to trying to maintain ones current situation i.e., worrying about "loosing the scraps they are being thrown from the imperialist table."


I know you aren't...

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I'm referring to the necessity that Blacks should start looking at themselves differently from the old white racist socio-economic framework and take this as an opportunity to embrace a new identity outside of those old borders.


This decline may jolt some folks into that... Which would be a good thing... But I fear most are going to try despirately to cling to their scraps, just as whites cling to their privilege.
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Originally posted by Xeon:
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I say, "Fall Amerikkka fall!"


Ok....Well....I have a question: How would this benefit black Americans? Why would black people not be negatively impacted by this so-called demise of America that you wish? And just exaclty how would black Americans remain unscathed and unaffected by the collapse of white America? Details please.......


I think on more of a global level... as in "How would this benefit Africans worldwide?", of which, I don't think I need to expand upon because that's quite obvious. I do not think the benefit of Africans in Amerikkka supercedes the rest of the African diaspora(particualrly considering we are not the majority population in the African global diapsora) or the rest of humanity. I do not think the residents inside Amerikkka are more important than others humans period, and I personally believe that this particulalry micro-nationalist 'arrogance', on the part of the Amerikkkan populous(reguardless of race) is a huge part of the problem.
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Originally posted by Oshun Auset:
This decline may jolt some folks into that... Which would be a good thing... But I fear most are going to try despirately to cling to their scraps, just as whites cling to their privilege.


That all depends on the severity of the decline and how protracted it is...If my belief is accurate then once this thing is all said and done there will be little if anything left of this society for Blacks and whites for that matter to cling to...
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Originally posted by LieDecrypter:
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Originally posted by Oshun Auset:
This decline may jolt some folks into that... Which would be a good thing... But I fear most are going to try despirately to cling to their scraps, just as whites cling to their privilege.


That all depends on the severity of the decline and how protracted it is...If my belief is accurate then once this thing is all said and done there will be little if anything left of this society for Blacks and whites for that matter to cling to...


Music to my ears... I'm sorry, I just find it extremely diffivcult to be sad, let alone not be overjoyed about the beast falling.

Why do residents of Amerikkka feel like they/we should be exempt from experiencing the same extent of suffering that the international policies of this country have wreaked on the rest of the globe's human population? Particularly since we are fully aware that this countries wealth and power was derived from the exploitation and oppression of our ancestors and maintained directly by international exploitation and oppression.

Call me crazy, but I just don't 'get it'.
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Originally posted by Oshun Auset:
Why do residents of Amerikkka feel like they/we should be exempt from experiencing the same extent of suffering that the international policies of this country have wreaked on the rest of the globe's human population?


It's called collective DENIAL and DELUSION...everyone has been drinking from the same pitcher of kool-aid for FAR too long....
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Originally posted by LieDecrypter:
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Originally posted by Oshun Auset:
Why do residents of Amerikkka feel like they/we should be exempt from experiencing the same extent of suffering that the international policies of this country have wreaked on the rest of the globe's human population?


It's called collective DENIAL and DELUSION...everyone has been drinking from the same pitcher of kool-aid for FAR too long....


An accurate diasgnosis. I guess it disturbs me when 'we' Africans do it. I don't 'get' that... Since we are also victims, we should know better and should be siding with global justice, not the micro-nationalist 'just us' mentality that the majority of white folks cling to for intentions and objectives we obviously do not have a commen interest in(or rather should not think we have commen interest in).
Originally posted by LieDecrypter
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Well...the Chinese civilazation has been around for about 5000 years yet has never really waged a war of expansion beyond it's borders...it has been ruled by outside forces in it's long history such as the Mongols and Manchurians...However the Japanese civilation is only about 2000 years old and has waged several expansionist wars....most notably it's annexation of the Korean peninsula around 1910 and it's invasion of Manchuria and China proper in the 1930's. Inspite of this Japan still does have a long history although this can be attributed to it's long periods of isolation and it's uncanny ability to adapt. The U.S. however does not have the luxury of isolation nor can it properly adapt because it's too big and too diverse..not like the virtually homogenous Japanese. So the U.S. is much more vulnerable to the consequences of it's own actions as it cannot be as easily guid


fro Some anthropologists/scientists have indicated [which still is under hot debate that] China is around 2.4 million years old(but I think they got this confused with Africa)...however, I should have been more specific and said "Asian" civilization....since Japan is to China as Madagascar is to Africa i.e. the same people. fro
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Originally posted by Kocolicious:
Originally posted by LieDecrypter
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Well...the Chinese civilazation has been around for about 5000 years yet has never really waged a war of expansion beyond it's borders...it has been ruled by outside forces in it's long history such as the Mongols and Manchurians...However the Japanese civilation is only about 2000 years old and has waged several expansionist wars....most notably it's annexation of the Korean peninsula around 1910 and it's invasion of Manchuria and China proper in the 1930's. Inspite of this Japan still does have a long history although this can be attributed to it's long periods of isolation and it's uncanny ability to adapt. The U.S. however does not have the luxury of isolation nor can it properly adapt because it's too big and too diverse..not like the virtually homogenous Japanese. So the U.S. is much more vulnerable to the consequences of it's own actions as it cannot be as easily guid


fro Some anthropologists/scientists have indicated [which still is under hot debate that] China is around 2.4 million years old(but I think they got this confused with Africa)...however, I should have been more specific and said "Asian" civilization....since Japan is to China as Madagascar is to Africa i.e. the same people. fro


Well Koco if those "anthropologists/scientists" are worth their salt they should know the difference between Africa and China. Besides I wouldn't say that 2.4 million years ago there was anything looking like a "civilization" as we know it happening in China...So they must be referring to the land mass itself. Whenever human civilization did first reach China it was brought there from the first people who arrived...from AFRICA and they were BLACK did you know that some of them are still around? You rarely hear about them but they are called "Negritos" they live in parts of China and Southeast Asia...
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I think on more of a global level... as in "How would this benefit Africans worldwide?", of which, I don't think I need to expand upon because that's quite obvious. I do not think the benefit of Africans in Amerikkka supercedes the...............'arrogance', on the part of the Amerikkkan populous(reguardless of race) is a huge part of the problem.


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