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Overt Rasicts tend to feel very alone and under siege. They feel like they are in their own little castles and are being bombarded on all sides by a massive foe. To come to a black board and spew their hatred is something akin to riding out of their castles and charging their foes. They see it as bold, brave, fighting against insurmountable odds. Some don't even really know why they do it, only that it makes them feel good to do what they might not otherwise do in real life.

I hope that answers your question.
Racists come to the board because they feel as if they have to subjugate all non-whites. This goes really for the majority of whites in my opinion, no matter where they're from.

Our people have made the mistake of confusing the methods with the objectives. As long as we agree on objectives, we should never fall out with each other just because we believe in different methods, or tactics, or strategy. We have to keep in mind at all times that we are not fighting for separation. We are fighting for recognition as free humans in this society
Malcolm X, 1965
Yssys don't forget the self-loathing ˜Negroes' the product of the white man slavery. They love denigrate their own people (thus themselves) in public places and/or in cyber space. Blinded and brainwashed by schools of the conqueror they spend their time scrutinize and criticize anything Black or Afrocentric watchdogs for the white man or western society . They are racist ˜Negroes', seven times worse than they originally were. They roam this board here...Real sad.

AfroMan.

[This message was edited by Afroman on November 18, 2003 at 12:15 PM.]
Yes Afroman,

The pathological by-product of the "peculiar institution" manisfests itself in the thinking and speech of those negroes.....where they have a fixated mind that sees anything black or related to black as inadequate.....i cannot even imagine feeling that way while not being able to peel off my own black skin......man, i betcha they are some miserable azz fools....wow
Kevin,

You know I am so proud to be a Haitian that it hurt me to see how those Africans despise my wonderful heritage. I look and try my best not to listen to their crazy garbage that is so prevalent here. I see how it is spread to the Caribbean and Africa make's me sick to the core. That's really funny how people out there are still naive.

AfroMan.
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Originally posted by Yssys:
Racists come to the board because they feel as if they have to subjugate all non-whites. This goes really for the majority of whites in my opinion, no matter where they're from.




I believe there are only about 1 million racist in the US, no where close to the majority of White folk. In fact, I think there are proberbly 20x more Whites that genuienly like Black folk than there are racist.

However, the most of the non-racist White folk refuse to put their racist White bredren in check. It's like having a mean dog that never bites your family, but wants to bit everyone else, the dog's master has to tell the stupid dog to 'heel' before the dog recognizes the 'other' person as 'friendly'.

I'm going to start putting more presure on good White folk to put their own people in check more often.

Although, some killings of racists might also solve the problem as well.
That's the problem, Our Empowerment, you nor I don't know for sure. Those are the people who are open with it. What about those closet cases who just prefer whites to non whites, the people who own the apartment building you might lease from or the business you might be trying to get hired at. You have to count those people in also. They are doing just as much to be racist as the open racists.

Our people have made the mistake of confusing the methods with the objectives. As long as we agree on objectives, we should never fall out with each other just because we believe in different methods, or tactics, or strategy. We have to keep in mind at all times that we are not fighting for separation. We are fighting for recognition as free humans in this society
Malcolm X, 1965
"I'm going to start putting more presure on good White folk to put their own people in check more often." --- Our Empowerment

What you describe is real. Holding others responsible to denounce the speech/acts of others like them, howeve, is a two-edged sword. You know there is a standing open demand for to denounce African Americans who speak/act against people not like them/us. Such as the New Jersey State official, a poet I think. And there is always Farrakhan (sp). And Jesse for his behavior. And so on.

I don't know the answer.

The most effective direct response on a message board is no response. Let them talk to themselves.

PEACE

Jim Chester

You are who you say you are. Your children are who you say you are.
"I believe there are only about 1 million racist in the US, no where close to the majority of White folk. In fact, I think there are proberbly 20x more Whites that genuienly like Black folk than there are racist.

However, the most of the non-racist White folk refuse to put their racist White bredren in check. It's like having a mean dog that never bites your family, but wants to bit everyone else, the dog's master has to tell the stupid dog to 'heel' before the dog recognizes the 'other' person as 'friendly'.

I'm going to start putting more presure on good White folk to put their own people in check more often.

Although, some killings of racists might also solve the problem as well."


I completely disagree, the majority of white people are closet racists or what we would call covert racists....what gets me is that most white racists are oblivious to their own racism. There is a very small percentage of overt racists like the KKK.
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Originally posted by thelawofMAAT:
....what gets me is that most white racists are oblivious to their own racism....


See, here we go again with the 'how do you define ______, in the context of _________.'

How can one be oblivious to racism? Even if he is unaware of the word or the definition of racism, surly he must know that he does not like a certain people based on the perceived color of their skin.
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Originally posted by Yssys:
... you nor I don't know for sure. Those are the people who are open with it.


Agreed.

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What about those closet cases who just prefer whites to non whites,


I would not have a problem with that. In fact I see that as quite normal. It's normal to see two White people wed, it's not normal (although acceptable) to see a White and a non-White wed.

However, Whites liking Whites because they are White IMO is not the same as Whites disliking Blacks because they are Black.

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To me the people who own the apartment building you might lease from or the business you might be trying to get hired at. You have to count those people in also. They are doing just as much to be racist as the open racists.



Again, I make a distinction between those White people who perfer Whites over Black, from White people who reject Black people because they are Black.

I've seen Black landlords go 'googoo' over the pospect of having a White tenant, because they perceive the White tenant to be a better tenant.
That landlord wasn't racist, she had a preference and given the choice she as a Black landlord was picking White.

With all of the above said, I must state for clarity, that I do believe in the fair housing and fair employment laws, which IMO doesn't prohibit employer/landlords from having preferences, however does prohibit those preferences from spilling over in to systemic /day-to-day operation of businesses operating in jurisdictions that have a preference not to tolerate such behavior.

Therefore, if we are in power we could set the rules, and enforce the rules; to be fair, or in our favor. The key is to get empowered.
Yssys, my little chickadee,

A couple of things...

First: You really need to do something about your screen name (Yssys). Get a couple of vowels from Vanna "White" for starters. LOL!!!

Second: Can that Knowledge Card on your posts be traded? If so, you need to trade in that UGLY black woman for a sister with more sex appeal (and white genes). Like Halle Berry!

Third: I agree. ALL whites are racist. As an outside (non-white/non-black) observer, I think it's time the American negroes start a bloody race war against whitey. Of course, you negroes will be annihilated by whitey's firepower; however, you will have gained the respect of the rest of us "people of color" around the world.

Peace angel
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Originally posted by James Wesley Chester:
"I'm going to start putting more presure on good White folk to put their own people in check more often." --- Our Empowerment

What you describe is real. Holding others responsible to denounce the speech/acts of others like them, howeve, is a two-edged sword. You know there is a standing open demand for to denounce African Americans who speak/act against people not like them/us. Such as the New Jersey State official, a poet I think. And there is always Farrakhan (sp). And Jesse for his behavior. And so on.



IMO, our side of the sword is very sharp, and has cut the guiltless people at times because they were just too close to it ie: wrongfully convicted and jailed central park jogger case defendants.

It's time to sharpen their side of the sword, or maybe just turn the sword in the other direction so that the dull 'white' side now faces us and the sharp side faces them.


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The most effective direct response on a message board is no response. Let them talk to themselves.


That is only effective if we all thought alike, which is not the case: some of us want to curse them out, some want to set them straight, some want to educate them, some want to convert/save them, and some want to see the rays of truth in their statements and make a fool of themselves as well. I've seen too much to know that it really doesn't work like that.

The most effective method so far that I've seen is when a sister gets down right ghetto on them, and the board signs in laughing over and over again. That has the racist changing names, and taking weeks off in an effort to have you forget about them.
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Originally posted by EgbertSouse:
Yssys, my little chickadee,

A couple of things...

First: You really need to do something about your screen name (Yssys). Get a couple of vowels from Vanna "White" for starters. LOL!!!

Second: Can that Knowledge Card on your posts be traded? If so, you need to trade in that UGLY black woman for a sister with more sex appeal (and white genes). Like Halle Berry!

Third: I agree. ALL whites are racist. As an outside (non-white/non-black) observer, I think it's time the American negroes start a bloody race war against whitey. Of course, you negroes will be annihilated by whitey's firepower; however, you will have gained the respect of the rest of us "people of color" around the world.

Peace angel
I guess your Mommie and your Dada must have dropped and left you when you were just a wittle w-one, huh?

Just starving for attention...

Okay!! My zippers open! Eek

Ahhhh.... MILK!!! It DOES! Big Grin

(Silly Rabbit!)
Greetings, Nayo/Madatafriqa here, Smile

I agree with the belief that the 'White Supremacists' w/o economic and political power over Blacks and others, get a cheap thrill by 'asserting' their 'privileged' status as white by coming onto boards such as this, and taunting the posters. fool In a very real way, this is psychological warfare, that they are actually engaging us in. If possible, it would be a good thing, if that when we see such posts, one (1) person respond mightily, and then no one else. Let it die, miserably, horribly, justifiably, as, a raisin in the ozone empowered sun. Cool

I also believe that because 'they' probably have little, to no power in the 'real world', this is as close as they will come. Mad I can imagine while they type their beleagured hate filled posts, that they have spittle dribbling down their chins, with one hand inside their pants (a la Ed Bundy of 'Married With Children), fondling themselves(sorry for the crudeness). Eek

I took a class taught by Dr. Maulana Ron Karenga(sp)many years ago, and he relayed this story:

He was in prison for some civil disobedience. At that time, he had acquired a B.A., M.A., and his doctorate. Many in prison knew of his political and educational accomplishments, and would bait him (both Black and White) into 'debate' on a regular basis. According to Dr. Karenga, he would 'win' many of these debates. One day, he was in such a debate with, by his description, a one eyed, 5 ' 2 90lb one tooth white 'trailer trash' man, with one foot. After the debate, a debate in which Karenga was clearly the verbal and ideological victor, his White combatant, looked him up and down, and then in the eye and said, "well that may be true, but, I am still a White man, and you are nothing but a nigg--, and you will always be just a nigg---. upset

By that statement, this White fellow, by socio-political and historical status, had 'one-upped' Dr. Karenga in a way in which Karenga could only shake his head. The reality of our status in this world is real everyone. These crackers who come on this board, do not appreciate the cognitive effort and advancements we have made and are making to lift ourselves out of psychological, emotional and cognitive bondage. The devil is smart.

We MUST persevere. And still I rise.

I read many of the posts here, and am uplifted, intrigued given hope and laughter on any given day. The 'racists' that come here, do so only to 'remind' us of that, outside of this cyber forum, we are 'still (in their sick, perverted and twisted pea brains) n's. And that for all of our verbal acumen we have no power, have yet to see power and, should fear them as if they are the plantation cyber overseers. Keeping us in our place if you will.
With that said,
This too shall pass. Cool
Interesting point(s) Nayo,

I guess after being degraded by their own as inbred trailer park trash in the media, comics and other social communications, trying to make a black feel bad about himself gives them some form of gratification. If they really would look at who they turned out to be in a society BIASED in their favor, they probably would pull out pistols and kill themselves.........but as a viable option, they decide to go and antagonize "dem black folk" as a form of therapy for themselves.....
Hey, To Yssys. I have reread my above post and I have made a typo. I meant to say" Keep your name the way it is." I have been to many African American boards. I can say the racist have found a way to get on board and spew their hate filled garbage. Yes I can agree with one side that says ignore them. I can also go with the other side that says give these clowns a response(Yes I know, that is what they want.) Sometimes you can ignore and other times you have to stand up and let the idiot Racist-Bigot know where to get off. If you don't, they will get worse and worse.

These are the things many AA/Bilals have to live with. Yes they will always see us as inferior N-words. But hear this, one day they will wake up from their stagnant sleep and see we have left them in the dust. Just look toward the postwar and prewar Japanese.

Knowledge is Power
Ignorance is Oppression

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