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Before somebody PC comes in here with "The world does not hate blacks" truth of matter is black americans are looked at as the lowest group on earth. Even by other Africans/Carribean Africans etc.

Asians, Crackas, Latinos you name it degrade us like there is no tommorow. This Indian(Sihk) girl in my sociology class was telling me how in India its not ok to marry white men but as long as its not a black person the parents will eventually accept it.

However if she were to bring home a black/african her parents would disown her. Same thing with the other Asians in my classes. "Do not date anybody darker than you." I used to want to blame crackas for this behavior but i've come to blame the groups that stereotype and look down on us. Its their fault for falling for the crackas in the media always showing the negative aspects of us. Its mind boggling considering how we as African Amerikkkans are the most original, creative, passive people in the world, while these other poor ass countries where they eat dogs and rats as a main course, look down on us like we aint shit? Baffling. I'm done blaming the honky media and i've placed the blame on the people of these countries. Whats your opinion? I've raised this point in class and all the blacks side with me and everybody else is in shock.
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While each group has their hatred/racist attitude toward African Americans (AND PEOPLE OF AFRICAN DESCENT THAT ARE NOT AMERICAN---WHILE HERE IN AMERICA, THEY MAY SAY AFRICAN AMERICAN, WHEN IN FACT THEY MEAN ANY PEOPLE OF AFRICAN DESCENT) . . . this racism was spread by is kept alive by primarily white Americans and other various people of European descent, therefore, I still lay the majority of the blame on racist white America/certain Europeans. ----If you read enough history, you will find that contrary to western racist propaganda, the slave trade is not the first time that Africans have come in contact with or have social or otherwise relationships with people of other races/countries, and there does not seem to be a history of racism against and hatred for people of African descent being prevalent until after the American/European racist campaign was waged against people of African descent during and since the slave trade. So what you have is the racist white propaganda machine having the ability to turn a percentage of the human population into the white racist's houseniggers----international houseniggers-----and/or being able to internationally put beliefs and sterotypes of African Americans/people of African descent in the minds of people all over the world, evidently, even people who have never even seen an African or an African American, let alone have had any everyday interactions with enough to have anything to base their racism on.
As far as these other groups the seem to hate us so much, all you have to do is ask yourself why? What are they basing this hatred on? What has any African American done to them? How many African Americans do they know?----then you have your answer and proof of where this attitude is coming from.

As far as African/Carribeans hating African Americans, unless they do not really stay in America long, or choose to live in a dream world, they eventually will have it shown to them that people in America that are prejudiced against African Americans are also prejudiced against ANYONE of African desecent, i.e., with African DNA, and anytime they claim that it is only African Americans and not any other Black people on this planet, they are lying either out fear of telling the truth under the circumstances or aiding in the white racist's only true weapon, DIVIDE AND CONQUER.

Finally, for all those groups/peoples who will be disowned, etc., for marrying a Black person, I sure hope they all hold their breath until we care. The majority of African Americans do not want to marry them either/marry out of their race either, however, we traditionally do not disown our children for nearly any reason because we actually love our children and do not see them as expendible trophies.
I agree with what sunnubian said.

And to comment on your original post...The Indian Sub-continent's Hindu colour caste system actually developed millenia prior to chattle slavery and European colonial expansionism. That hatred needs it's own thread, and derives from a similar yet earlier epoch in the history of man known as the Aryan invasion of India...Indo-Europeans who invaded and subjugated the Dravidian/Sundra/Black indigenous Indians...but I digress...T

his is from another thread. It chalks up everything I want to say on this subject so I decided to copy and paste...

Origionally posted by Oshun Auset on another thread:
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When European colonizers travelled the world the were GREETED and TAKEN CARE OF almost everywhere they went. They were not hated because they looked differently. History speaks of this time and time again. People usually use hate as an excuse, it develops because two populations are competing for the same land and natural resources...and therefore one population oppresses and exploits the other and needs an excuse to do so,...hate and racism are good excuses...especially if backed up by religious doctrine. Phenotypical differences just happens to be the easiest, most obvious way to hate someone. Especially for Europeans considering the rest of the world is brown and black.

The Scottish and English hated each other...The English wanted control of the Scottish lands and people...so they had to make up a reason why...The Scottish were then said to be inferior and savage...convenient and familiar...The same thing happens the world over. Phenotypically these two groups looked no different...But hate and a tribal/racism was still present...It developed because it was a convenient excuse...This is how racism developed...Ancient Europeans sang songs of praise about the "Blameless Ethiopians"(Heroditus) and travelled to Africa to learn from them/us. Not until the age of conquest/colonialism was the African image denegrated to that of an animal. It developed out of the need to conquor(Western Europe was turning into one huge slum)...

...We are all humans...We have phenotypical differences. Europe cannot sustain itself. That is why Egypt was conquored by Greeks and Romans. They need a bread basket(Zimbabwe anyone?) and industrialization needs raw materials. And then there is just plain old greed that deveops to uncheckable amounts once the imperialist ball starts rolling. That is why the culture and religion that has sprung out of Europe developed and still support racism and hatred.

European/White people aren't going to fight against(in mass) what gives them material advantage over the rest of the world(white supremacy)...It is up to us to put this system in check.

Capitalism is colonial imperialism. It breeds racism...watch what happends to the image of White and Red Arabs in the coming years...It already started a long time ago...When industrialization needed their oil fields....not a coincidence.


The fact that other non-Europeans hate African people irritates me to know end...but I can't blame them anymore than I can blame my brothers and sisters who hold onto notions like "good hair" and Hate themsleves. "Other non-European folk" are just as confused as we are. But none of us are the root "cause" of this stupidity.

P.S. Don't knock the Asians for having cuisine choices that don't suite the Amerikkkan palet. Dog and Cat isn't that bad(I've had it) And it obviousely is healthy...compare the cancer rates of the United Snakes of that to Asia.

Rat on the other hand...well let me not be closed minded...the revolution may call for me to eat worse...lol.

We shouldn't poke fun at cultural differences. That is something the Western Imperialists taught "us" to do. It makes us no better than what we are complaining about on this thread. You'de be surprised what we eat in some parts of Africa for sustinance.
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Great posts both of you. To be clear I wasnt making fun of what they eat in parts of Asia. I was displaying sarcasm as to say they think they are so much better than we are yet their social conditions are much worse to a certain extent. I think all non european people are beautiful and to be realistic I know we all will never hold hands in peace but the least we all could do is unify to crush these stereotypes and brainwashing that the europeans have done over hundreds of years.
I'm an AA and if I were to watch these gangsta rap video's I'd be afraid of AAs, too. The white American media moguls often ship these type of videos to Third World nations, Europe,Asia and Africa giving the world the impression that all AAs are the same as those hoodlums on those videos.
Even the " never seen garbage movies"( all Black actor-rappers) considered too disgusting for American audiences are pawned off to the above nations re-enforcing negative opinions of Black AAs.
I hate to take the Bill Cosby route. But I think the hatred of black people was strengthened by black people. We were brought over here to unite, and the minute we got free we started killing each other for different colors thus re-establishing the disunity that we had in Africa with all the different tribes.

We are hated mainly because we carry ourselves like we hate everybody else. We are hated because we still strike fear in whites when we walk by them. We are hated because alot of us can't be trusted. We are hated because the white man painted a horrible picture of us, and we don't do anything to disclaim it.
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I hate to take the Bill Cosby route. But I think the hatred of black people was strengthened by black people. We were brought over here to unite, and the minute we got free we started killing each other for different colors thus re-establishing the disunity that we had in Africa with all the different tribes.


Are you serious? We were brought over here to work as slaves...remember slavery? Gang violence didn't come around until the last century. To see how we did unite check the history of the UNITED NEGRO IMPROVEMENT ASSOCIATION. Tribal conflict was hightened by slave raiding and colonialism. You need to learn your history brother.

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We are hated mainly because we carry ourselves like we hate everybody else. We are hated because we still strike fear in whites when we walk by them. We are hated because alot of us can't be trusted. We are hated because the white man painted a horrible picture of us, and we don't do anything to disclaim it.


You must believe the same propoganda the other non-whites this thread is complaining about believe...or are you a European that decided to use a Black man as your avatar to fool us?

I've never heard someone say such things about THEMSELF.
As you can see I'm definitely not a writer. I'm more of an orator. It's hard for me to convey my message without being able you use all the other aspects of communication ie eye contact, pitch, body language, intonation.

Let me try again.
Quote: "I do what I wanna do, I don't care if I get caught, the DA can play this muthafuckin tape record, I'll kill you, I aint playin, don't you hear what I'm sayin, nigga I aint playin, I catch you slippin Ima kill you"
End Quote.

I can't deny that I think the song is catchy. However, the message is quite clear. 50 wrote that because hatred sells, its "Gangsta".

Being black I know that this is just a display of art. Being spiritual I hear the true message loud and clear.

Whose making millions? Lil John with Get Crunk music, It's amazing how effective it is, cause I get Crunk myself. First he get's your war-like spirit flowing, then he seperates you into sects "Put yo hood up", and orders you to "Knock a hater out", and taunts you for being scared. If he's not a minister I don't know who is.

Kanye West is as close to Mainstream positive as we gone get. "Jesus Walks"

This hatred was instilled in us by our struggle. And we will struggle as long as we have hatred
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Originally posted by HeruStar:
As you can see I'm definitely not a writer. I'm more of an orator. It's hard for me to convey my message without being able you use all the other aspects of communication ie eye contact, pitch, body language, intonation.

Let me try again.
Quote: "I do what I wanna do, I don't care if I get caught, the DA can play this muthafuckin tape record, I'll kill you, I aint playin, don't you hear what I'm sayin, nigga I aint playin, I catch you slippin Ima kill you"
End Quote.

I can't deny that I think the song is catchy. However, the message is quite clear. 50 wrote that because hatred sells, its "Gangsta".

Being black I know that this is just a display of art. Being spiritual I hear the true message loud and clear.

Whose making millions? Lil John with Get Crunk music, It's amazing how effective it is, cause I get Crunk myself. First he get's your war-like spirit flowing, then he seperates you into sects "Put yo hood up", and orders you to "Knock a hater out", and taunts you for being scared. If he's not a minister I don't know who is.

Kanye West is as close to Mainstream positive as we gone get. "Jesus Walks"

This hatred was instilled in us by our struggle. And we will struggle as long as we have hatred


Lol...white kids buy the most CD's...and the industry is run by who? Not us...

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