As I introduce this topic, let me first begin by introducing this well-documented statement:

"I want to tell you something very clear, don't worry about American pressure on Israel, we, the Jewish people control America, and the Americans know it."

-Ariel Sharon to Shimon Peres, October 3rd, 2001, as reported on Kol Yisrael radio.
http://www.fpp.co.uk/online/01/10/Sharon3.html

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Indeed, it took less than 10 minutes for the 'real' answer to surface.
http://www.realnews247.com/who_rules_america_updated_2004.htm

As I read the article several other points of realization became perfectly clear:

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Point #1

Now I fully understand why parent organization: ADL -- works and the child organization: NAACP -- doesn't.
http://www.adl.org/default.htm

They are both owned, run and operated by the "Afrim" Ivrim who later migrated to Europe to become known as the Jew/Hebrew/Semite in 1829 by FW Edwards
http://africanamerica.org/eve/forums?a=tpc&f=96970854&m=6831016293



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Point #2

This is the same group who had a "strong" hand in generating the onslaught of our exploitation:

http://www.trinicenter.com/kwame/20010615 b.htm {#21}
A. The Grandees, "the money managers of Spain, mostly Sephardic Jews," financed the Afrikan Holocaust, "the greatest single crime in the world" against a people. Over 100 million human beings died during this Holocaust. Many Jews converted to Catholicism. They practiced Catholicism by day and Judaism by night. They were called the Marranos or the "silent Jews."
June 15, 2001
Dr Kwame Nantambu
Other Source:
http://www.chivalricorders.org/nobility/grandee.htm

Of course, YT has a long history of crushing and suppressing Black people, but the Jews/Semites/Hebrews history of oppression is much deeper and much longer.

Their well crafted chameleon skill from their ole' Grandee/Marrano days is quite evident:

Here is a list of famous Hollywood stars who changed their names:

Adopted Christian Name ..........Real Jewish Name

Joey Adams ...................... Joseph Abramowitz
Eddie Albert .....................Eddie Heimberger
Woody Allen...................... Allen Konigsberg
Lauren Bacall ................... Joan Perske
Jack Benny ...................... Benny Kubelsky
Milton Berle .................... Milton Berlinger
Ernest Borgnine ..................Effron Borgnine
George Burns .................... Nathan Birnbaum
Joan Blondell.................... Rosebud Blustein
Joyce Brothers ...................Joyce Bauer
Mel Brooks ...................... Melvin Kaminsky
Joey Bishop ..................... Joey Gottlieb
Charles Bronson ................. Charles Buchinsky
Rona Barrett .....................Rona Burnstein
Cyd Chrisse ......................Tula Finklea
Tony Curtis ..................... Bernie Schwartz
(daughter is Jamie Lee Curtis)
Joan Crawford .... .............. Lucille Le Sueur
Dyan Cannon ..................... Samile Friesen
Kirk Douglas .................... Isadore Demsky
(son is Michael Douglas)
Bob Dylan ........................Robert Zimmerman
Rodney Dangerfield ...............Jacob Cohen
Douglas Fairbanks, Jr. .......... Douglas Ullman
Joel Grey ....................... Joel Katz
(father of Jennifer Grey)
Elliott Gould ................... Elliott Goldstein
Zsa Zsa Gabor ................... Sara Gabor
John Garfield ................... Jules Garfinkle
Judy Garland .................... Frances Gumm
Paulette Goddard ................ Paulette Levy
Eydie Gorme...................... Edith Gormezano
Cary Grant ...................... Larry Leach
Lorne Green ..................... Chaim Leibowiz
Judy Holliday ................... Judith Tuvin
Leslie Howard ................... Leslie Stainer
Buddy Hackett ................... Leonard Hacker
Jill St. John ................... Jill Oppenheim
Danny Kaye....................... David Kominsky
Alan King ....................... Irwin Kniberg
Larry King....................... Larry Zeiger
Tina Louise...................... Tina Blacker
Ann Landers...................... Esther Friedman
(Abigail Van Buren is her sister.)
Dorothy Lamour .................. Dorothy Kaumeyer
Miehael Landon .................. Mike Orowitz
Steve Lawrence .................. Sidney Leibowitz
Hal Linden........................ Hal Lip{shitz}
Jerry Lewis ...................... Joseph Levitch
Karl Maiden ...................... Maiden Sekulovitch
Ethel Merman ..................... Ethel Zimmerman
Jan Murray ....................... Murray Janofsky
Walter Matthau ................... Walter Matasschanskayasky
Lilly Palmer ..................... Maria Peiser
Jan Pierce........................ Pincus Perelmuth
Roberta Peters.................... Roberta Peterman
Eleanor Parker.................... Ellen Friedlob
Joan Rlvers ...................... Joan Molinsky
Tony Randall ..................... Sidney Rosenberg
Edward G. Robinson ............... Emanuel Goldenberg
Dinah Shore ...................... Fanny Rose
Shelly Winters ................... Shirley Schrift
Gene Wilder....................... Jerome Silberman

There are hundreds of other Jews in Hollywood "stardom" - far too numerous to list them all here. However the following are Jews whom many think are Gentiles:

Ed Asner
Bea Arthur
Gene Barry
Richard Benjamin
Kevin Costner
Lee J. Cobb
Joan Collins
Richard Dreyfus
Ted Danson
Peter Falk (Columbo)
Eddie Fisher
Harrison Ford
Richard Gere
Betty Grable
Sharon Gless
Steven Segall
Dustin Hoffman
Monty Hall
Amy Irving
Jack Klugman
Leonard Nimoy
Ken Olin
Ron Perlman
George Segel
William Shatner
Peter Strauss
Rod Steiger
Jane Seymour
Barbara Walters
Debra Winger
Bruce Willis

More:

Joan Collins
Goldie Hawn
Paul Newman
Robert DeNiro
Geraldo Rivera
Billy Joel
Barry Manilow
Tony Martin
Bette Midler
Barbara Streisand
Ringo Starr
Roseanne Barr
David Brenner
Sid Caesar
Richard Dawson
Don Adams
Norm Crosby
George Jessel
Alan King
Carl Reiner
Don Rickles
Martha Reye
Garry Shandling
Henry Winkler
David Letterman

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Point #3

"Dubya" talks out of both sides of his face:

http://www.adl.org/default.htm
"Israel has every right to defend herself"
George "Dubya" Bush
July 13, 2006

Q. Why?
A. He's no fool. Conventional wisdom tells me he knows exactly what he is doing and saying at all times.

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Point #4

The group that controls Hollywood and the media and therefore the minds of most AmeriKKKans is:

1. Larry Tisch owns CBS.
2. Gerald Levin is CEO of Time Warner.
3. Norman Pearlstein owns 50 popular magazines
4. Leonard Goldenson heads ABC-TV; Stu Bloomberg is in charge of entertainment.
5. Michael Eisner is CEO of Disney
6. Edgar Bronfman, Jr. of Warner Music
7. Peter Chernin of Fox
8. Steven Spielberg, Director/Producer
9. Amy Pascal, head of Columbia Pictures
10. Donald Graham, CEO-Washington Post
11. Peter R. Kann, who controls Dow Jones & Co., publishers of the Wall Street Journal, Barron's and 33 other newspapers.
http://www.nationalvanguard.org/story.php?id=4231

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Point #4

The large ears, huge noses and frizzy hair of the so-Called Jew {i.e Jewish/Hebrew/Semite} completely reflect so-Called caucasian features.

The "Hellenized" Jew/Hebrew/Semite has been well aware of the results of being ostracized for many centuries and they did something about it:

1. Pronounced a false claim as "GOD'S chosen people.

2. Colluded with the Greeks to write a book that was never their words, thoughts, actions or deeds.

3. Set about writing Afrikans out of history, proclaiming a 'false' curse, and financially endorsing the exploitation of Europe and Western Civilization -- who undoubtedly believed this false claim.

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Point #5

The most recent 'undisputed' research reveals that their original name is really "Afrim" an Akan word which means "breaking away from a group or seceding"The Africans Who Wrote The Bible" -- Dr. Alex Darkwah, page--27.

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Point #6

Day after day, week after week, month after month and year after year we engage in discussions about Democrats and Republicans, as if we have any say in what happens politically in this country, and as if the rulers of these parties care about what we think. This issue is further complicated by Black Folks who willingly aid the enemy.

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Point #7

We are spinning out of control and melting away in this melting pot called AmeriKKKa. When will we control our own game?

Always Remember that: "Anytime We As A People Are Not Having Our WaySomeone Else Is Having Theirs...And It's Never To Our Advantage."

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Ras, I don't think that we as Africans hate Jews. We really don't like whites, no matter what their religious affiliation is, based upon their deeds. I think that it should the higher calling of our people regardless of their religious affiliation to look out for one another. For example, before africana.com became defunct there was an excellent article about how Ethiopian Jews Black Jews are being openly discrimated against and the Israeli government run by white Jews are doing nothing about it. They are still mainly living in refugee camps and there was a protest about this very issue. White Jews don't even want to live amongst their own blood line relatives because of the color of their skin. Kibbutz are openly refusing to allow their own brethern to live among them.
So when someone of African descent says something negative about a white Jew, then it could be backed up with some facts and experiences.
Now to be honest it has gotten to the point in my opinion that Israel is now mirroring the behavior of the U.S. so much that it has become distasteful and a turn off to those of us who know how the U.S. operates when it comes to people of color.
That's just my point of view on this "Anti-Semitic" charge that white Jews love to put out.
Yssys ~ very well put.. and I understand what you're saying, but aren't some of these things they're saying the same reason Nazi Germany used to justify the hollocaust? I just think we need to be careful when we generalize and stereotype. My college room-mate who later became my best friend is a Jew who grew up poor in Philly... There was even a point of his life where his family and him were homeless. He had a hard life, and his single mother to this day struggles with cancer with no health insurance...

So, please "jews" are not running America.. do not generlize and stereotype. white people would say the same thing about us, if enough of us were in top positions in Corporate America, or if enough of us owned big businesses.. Our number wouldn't even have to be that big; they would have still accused us of "running" their country.

So, hey if there are a few Jews who made it to the top.. I'm happy for them.. And I work towards getting my people there..

And as for the White Jew racism at the Black Jew racism.. as bad as this may sound; It is not uncommon to have tribalism in that part of the world. Even in the all black African countries, there is a lot of racism black against blacks... There is a lot of tribalism in the middle east and African area.. I'm not trying to excuse it, but it is part of the norm out there.. Even some places I've read some of the Black Jews saying they had faced more discrimination when they were in Ethiopia... Again, am not trying to excuse it; but just trying to point out that Tribalism with or without color difference is unfortunetly part of the African/Mid-East clture.. I can mention places like Rwanda, Darfur and even Ethiopia where people have been masacared because of their tribe/race. And these are all black people; but they see each other as different races..
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Ras--What is up with all this anti-Semitism?


There is no such word; therefore there is no such concept.

However, the facts speak for themselves.
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Originally posted by Fine:
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Ras--What is up with all this anti-Semitism?


There is no such word; therefore there is no such concept.

However, the facts speak for themselves.
that is the symptom of anti-semetism.. Its easier to deny wicked act when you are part of it..
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Originally posted by Ras:
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Originally posted by Fine:
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Ras--What is up with all this anti-Semitism?


There is no such word; therefore there is no such concept.

However, the facts speak for themselves.
that is the symptom of anti-semetism.. Its easier to deny wicked act when you are part of it..


The only wicked act was the brutal and immoral deeds done in creating the "state" of Isreal. I have a new word that we can and should use against those who like to throw "anti-semitism" around like they know what it means...."anti-arabism" or "anti-Islamism". Hell how about "anti-nonwhite"?
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xxGAMBITxx said: The only wicked act was the brutal and immoral deeds done in creating the "state" of Isreal. I have a new word that we can and should use against those who like to throw "anti-semitism" around like they know what it means...."anti-arabism" or "anti-Islamism". Hell how about "anti-nonwhite"?


Sounds right by me! Get that "revised" dicitonary published and I'll take care of the small details!

Thanks, xxGAMBITxx!
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Originally posted by xxGAMBITxx:
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Originally posted by Ras:
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Originally posted by Fine:
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Ras--What is up with all this anti-Semitism?


There is no such word; therefore there is no such concept.

However, the facts speak for themselves.
that is the symptom of anti-semetism.. Its easier to deny wicked act when you are part of it..


The only wicked act was the brutal and immoral deeds done in creating the "state" of Isreal. I have a new word that we can and should use against those who like to throw "anti-semitism" around like they know what it means...."anti-arabism" or "anti-Islamism". Hell how about "anti-nonwhite"?


You get emotionally charged when you hear the word "anti-semite" for a reason not clear to me. It makes me wonder why you are so offended by this word.. In my experience people react to words in such a way, when it says something about a part of themselves.

Whether you choose to acknowledge it or deny it, this poisonous hatred of the ages is back. Once believed to be just a European disease, has gone global including America.

This is how holocausts are born. And we cannot avoid the next holocausts for as long as we harbor these hateful feeling in any form or shape
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Ras said: You get emotionally charged when you hear the word "anti-semite" for a reason not clear to me. It makes me wonder why you are so offended by this word.. In my experience people react to words in such a way, when it says something about a part of themselves.

Whether you choose to acknowledge it or deny it, this poisonous hatred of the ages is back. Once believed to be just a European disease, has gone global including America.

This is how holocausts are born. And we cannot avoid the next holocausts for as long as we harbor these hateful feeling in any form or shape


I used this non-linguistic term was [Point #4] to assert a fact. No passion was involved, trust me!

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Ras said: What is up with all this anti-Semitism?


You brought passion to the topic with this mis-remark.
Hating Jews is not the issue here. Therefore you are welcome to start a topic about it on your own.

The here issue is that this group has put its focus where it counts "in the pocket" and has came out on top. U cannot handle the truth, this is why you flagrantly throw around words that you don't even know the meaning of.
^^

I get "emotionally charged" when a phrased is used for the expressed intent to mislead or was invented for a specific dubious purpose. Now what is your reason for avoiding questions directed at you by several posters. So far you only answered one directly by me and I think that was done just to try to "hype" yourself up (and I still have you beat by the way). You feel so strongly about "holocaust" then you should be outraged over what was done to an entire society begining in 1947/48. Siding with a "cause" is one thing, hypocrasy is quite another. Why do you white men (and yes I believe you are white, even though you'll deny it) feel the need to expand and take from others and then expect other people to just lay down for you? Where does this parasitic hunger come from? I would really like to know "anti-colored". Hey Fine, I just came up with a new one for the "dictionary". tongue
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xxxGambitxxx said: Hey Fine, I just came up with a new one for the "dictionary".


Let's have it!



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xxGAMBITxx said: I get "emotionally charged" when a phrased is used for the expressed intent to mislead or was invented for a specific dubious purpose. Now what is your reason for avoiding questions directed at you by several posters. So far you only answered one directly by me and I think that was done just to try to "hype" yourself up (and I still have you beat by the way). You feel so strongly about "holocaust" then you should be outraged over what was done to an entire society begining in 1947/48. Siding with a "cause" is one thing, hypocrasy is quite another. Why do you white men (and yes I believe you are white, even though you'll deny it) feel the need to expand and take from others and then expect other people to just lay down for you?


There was never a question of your win-win status, xxGAMBITTxx with Ras.

I detected his whiny little statement and responded right away.

Ras then proceeded to jump on what he thought was Yssys band wagon to his own demise.

Clarity is a b****!



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Originally posted by Fine:
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xxGAMBITxx said: I get "emotionally charged" when a phrased is used for the expressed intent to mislead or was invented for a specific dubious purpose. Now what is your reason for avoiding questions directed at you by several posters. So far you only answered one directly by me and I think that was done just to try to "hype" yourself up (and I still have you beat by the way). You feel so strongly about "holocaust" then you should be outraged over what was done to an entire society begining in 1947/48. Siding with a "cause" is one thing, hypocrasy is quite another. Why do you white men (and yes I believe you are white, even though you'll deny it) feel the need to expand and take from others and then expect other people to just lay down for you?


There was never a question of your win-win status, xxGAMBITTxx with Ras.

I detected his whiny little statement and responded right away.

Ras then proceeded to jump on what he thought was Yssys band wagon to his own demise.

Clarity is a b****!



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tfro
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And as for the White Jew racism at the Black Jew racism.. as bad as this may sound; It is not uncommon to have tribalism in that part of the world.


If this is a true explanation ... Please explain why Israeli Jews accept Eastern European Jews with open arms. Wouldn't that same tribalism apply?
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Originally posted by xxGAMBITxx:
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Why do you white men (and yes I believe you are white, even though you'll deny it) feel the need to expand and take from others and then expect other people to just lay down for you? Where does this parasitic hunger come from? I would really like to know "anti-colored". Hey Fine, I just came up with a new one for the "dictionary". tongue
I don't get angry over this anymore so go ahead and call me white.. I've been called "white" "sell out" "uncle tom" many times in my life. I will still reserve my right to be an individual and not follow the "norm"

I can't understand why people always have to question my "blackness" if I have a different opinion than the mass. That is the most racist thing in the world..
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Originally posted by Kweli4Real:
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And as for the White Jew racism at the Black Jew racism.. as bad as this may sound; It is not uncommon to have tribalism in that part of the world.


If this is a true explanation ... Please explain why Israeli Jews accept Eastern European Jews with open arms. Wouldn't that same tribalism apply?


White people are treated better every where you go.. This is not unique to Israel. Haven't you heard what happened to Oprah on her first trip to Ethiopia?
She had a white body guard with her; and he was getting all the respect and attenting everywhere they went. They opened and held doors for him, and gave him the royal treatment while they virtually ignored Oprah. They thought she was just a local AFrican. They did not know who she was. They didn't know who the white man was, but that didn't matter. He got all the nice treatment, just because of the color of his skin.

Offcourse this changed when they found out who she was.. I have personally experienced this in AFrica.. Any place that I went to, if there was a white man, they got the first class service before me.. This is the sad truth..
Actually, your question has no premise (e.g. base) since Semite in a made up word.

In fact, Hebrew and Jew are ---also made up words by FW Edwards, who provided them for his friend Amedee Thierry in 1829.

Reference: "Africans Who Wrote The Bible" by Alex Darkwah, page 90.

So you see I am not an anti-semetic since the word has no foundation, however I am aware of who these people are and how they inserted themselves into a history that they "bogusly" created and passed along to the world as truth.



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Originally posted by Ras:
What is up with all this anti-Semitism?
So in order to be independent you must have your own economic power. Not going into debt to anyone. Didn't the Bible say something like that a long time ago.

So Americans have been going into debt for NON-wealth and the junk depreciates and we have been doing that for 50 years so here we are.

So why talk about Jews and not accounting? LOL

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