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sgt posted,

YES I AM AWARE that seeing this as positive takes a mature, stable and agile mind, to see both the irony and sadness in the whole affair while recognizing the politics of the time as well.


*** Man you are a f-king fool if you see ANYTHING positive about the situation, especially if you are not some racist azz white sotuherner....what the f-k is wrong with you sgt? How in the f-k can you even fix your lips to utter the word positive......the whole concept of slavery and slaves is negative....period. Look at the wealth imbalance and the racial divisions that will ALWAYS exist in this country.....I live in a country where white folks cannot even fix their mouths to even APOLOGIZE for slavery and as a black person, not only am I supposed to just get over it....I'm supposed to watch those movies and take plantation tours that romanticize the timeframe by leaving out the realities (such as slave quarters) of a horrible horrible institution. And you wonder why there are people who want to bomb this place to sam hell and back? I don't..............man you are treading into dangerous territory with that positive aspects of slavery shit.....
Whoa everybody ... I almost got drawn into SGT's nonsense. That was before I started remembering, and then re-read, most of his posts. I can't/won't argue with SGT anymore because it is my firm belief that he is not as he represents. It is my belief that SGT is a White agitator that comes to this board to disrupt and distract.

To answer another thread, should he be banned? Nope, just ignored.

Peace to you, SGT.
Kweli ...

I thought the same thing about just ignoring Sarge .... but that statement of putting a "positive spin" on the issue of slavery is/has got to be the last straw!!

I have and will never hear anything more ignorant in my life ... for there is nothing more repulsive in the English language that can be said than that!! And at this point, for saying anything so absurd, I believe he should GO!!! Roll Eyes

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On July 12, the Protest Whinier Forum suffered a Total Forum Breakdown, in which several longstanding members were banned from there, and proceeded to seek refuge here in "?", in an attempt to regroup, and let their fellow Protest Whiniers know what had happened.

https://www.africanamerica.org/groupee/forums?a=tpc&s=60260642&f=64170254&m=73170694

During the next couple of days, I went over to PW (openly) a few times under various usernames, and ShudderAtTheThought was bragging about a mysterious operation that they had planned against AA.org. I've always wondered why no counterattack occured after that. It has always struck me as very odd. She was quite sure that they were going to get us, laughing in anticipation.

https://www.africanamerica.org/groupee/forums?a=tpc&s=60260642&f=64170254&m=53170994

On July 15, Das Boomski came to "?", and joined AA.org, looking to get in contact with the PW refuges, who were camping out in "?", to tell them that Alan and Kfir were letting them return, if only PW refuges would lick their boots. Das Boomski was communicating with them in private topics here at AA.org. (I believed at the time, and still believe, due to the similarity of their posting styles, that Das Boomski is ShudderAtTheThought. When I asked her in "?", she sisn't respond.)

https://www.africanamerica.org/groupee/forums?a=tpc&s=60260642&f=64170254&m=63670305

I just clicked on Sergeant's profile, and notice that on July 15, Sergeant joined AA.org. Eek


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[This message was edited by ricardomath on October 21, 2003 at 04:59 PM.]


[This message was edited by ricardomath on October 21, 2003 at 05:12 PM.]
It doesn't matter... I think the best thing is to ignore he/she/it.

I know without a doubt Dear Ole Sarge isn't Black with his NAAWP Bizzaro type thinking... There will be no TOTAL FORUM BREAKDOWN here where members turn against each other because of some freak who can't even string a logical sentence together.

Perhaps your theory is right... That would explain the Sarge's penchant for berating MBM and he/she/it's "censorship" pleas.

Anyway...

He/she/it has already been pegged in my book as another in a long list of the multiplying SILLY RABBITS who think people fall for that weakly assembled positions.

Dare I say...
Tricks are for Kids?
Yeah, that would explain why he's so contrarian all the time. He creates disagreements that don't really exist (Nmaginate & I were saying the same thing, and he tried to make it seem like we said something different?!?), and argues obvious falsehoods. The "positive spin" on the 3/5 Compromise is pretty much proof positive. This guy's arguments are so ridiculous that he has to just be trying to provoke and annoy.
Add to that the fact that the south dominated american gov't for many decades ANYWAY because the economy was agrarian and not industrial based. The south used the 3/5 approach as a way to dominate legislation to their favor against Northern interests. This is a major part of the reason why the north agitated for civil war - they resented the south being able to use slaves to inflate their representation and control politics....

sheesh

bs @ Sgt's positive spin on slavery
quote:
Originally posted by negrospiritual:
Add to that the fact that the south dominated american gov't for many decades ANYWAY because the economy was agrarian and not industrial based. The south used the 3/5 approach as a way to dominate legislation to their favor against Northern interests. This is a major part of the reason why the north agitated for civil war - they resented the south being able to use slaves to inflate their representation and control politics....

sheesh

bs @ Sgt's positive spin on slavery



WHAT A LOT OF PEOPLE SEEM TO NOT REALIZE IT THAT IT IS THE SOUTH THAT IS DOMINATING POLITICS IN THIS COUNTRY RIGHT NOW, AGAIN SINCE THE REAGAN YEARS.--just a little side note.
I hope my grandsons look like a one-celled amoeba when they become the age of FORCE to march to one of these wars in some foreign land or otherwise. White America can lower the fraction to the lowest common denominator. I ain't no math freak; but whatever it is, the lowest ain't low enough for me. This family will slither along like snakes if we have to. So be it!!!!!!!! If we all look like apes, coons, baboons, horses, cows, in that psycho mind of theirs, GGGGGOOOOOOOODDDDDDDDDIE!!!!!!!
This right here is the reason why I don't feel sorry for the South for LOSING the American Civil War. Prior to the Civil War, the North had 71% of the population. The South had to add 60%, or 3/5ths of the slave population in order to have more seats in the House of Representatives (the house that's represented by the POPULATION of the states) as well as make a profit from slavery at the same time.

Had they used 100% of the slave population instead, the South would've had more seats in Congress. The problems with this are:

1. Had they counted 100% of the slave population, the South would have to also count them as citizens (i.e. the South would have to free their slaves). Either you're a person or property. You can't be a slave and a citizen at the same time. And the South wasn't ready for that.

2. Some of the slave populations in certain states in the South were larger than the white population. Which meant that some of the southern states would have had a Black majority. Obviously, the South wasn't ready for that either.
See Kev, this is where you go wrong:

"Look at the wealth imbalance and the racial divisions that will ALWAYS exist in this country"

Whoever is teaching you that bs is doing you a disservice, or preparing you for a self-fulfilling prophecy. Either way, with that attitude I know that you will remain unbalanced and divided, just as you are planning to be. There are far too many examples all around us of black folks who did not believe as you do, and who are succeeding and at the top of their respective fields. Excuses are a thing of the past.
I don't give a f-k about divided, the wealth imbalance is my only concern. Do you really think I would spend my time arguing with racist azz white people trying to change their attitudes? Or do you think i would be a subjugated, docile negro to have them like me while their attitudes about blacks in general remain the same. As so far as the imbalance, as long as negroes support things that continue to make our share of the pie harder to get (i.e., against affirmative action when white males head 90% of the corporations) then as a whole, the imbalance will not be erased as quickly as it could. Now there are plently of blacks who are getting theirs and living the american dream better than plenty of others who thought it would be theirs by default. Hell, i'm at the top of my field educationally and economically my gotdamn self but that does not count....the key is to make policy open and inclusive where historically underrepresented people can be included and realize educational and economic ascension widespread. But many people are worried more about being a good house negra than they are the state of affars for their race....especially if they can realize individual benefits from pandering to whites like a little child nestled under its parent as they do the work of racists in blackface......
...suffering from heart disease, diabetes, strokes, high blood pressure, obesity, keeping their mouths shut when some sucka on the job says something out of line; trying to stay alive past age 45, maintaining all those astronomical payments for all that material stuff; facing all the pressure every day of their African lives, keeping up with the Jones'!! One place we all look identical: The damn CEMETERY; only thing, no one gives a chit what you're wearing, what kind of car you drove, the color of your hair, skin, eyes, lipstick, what kind of house you owned. No one ever sees ya again nor remembers ya!! Is it worth it???? Then go for it!!!!!!!
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Originally posted by Kweli4Real:
Whoa everybody ... I almost got drawn into SGT's nonsense. That was before I started remembering, and then re-read, most of his posts. I can't/won't argue with SGT anymore because it is my firm belief that he is not as he represents. It is my belief that SGT is a White agitator that comes to this board to disrupt and distract.

To answer another thread, should he be banned? Nope, just ignored.

Peace to you, SGT.


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