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Has this ever happened to you?

A black person (someone you know, like, maybe even respect) asks you a question about something you are very knowledgeable about but won't accept your input without running it by dee white man. When I say knowledgeable I'm talking something you work with everyday professionally, something you have intimate experience with, or even something you are academically trained in.

Why do some black people disregard your knowledge, credentials, and/or education unless they can verify your feedback with someone white?
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Black inferiority has one conditioned to never see credibility in one who looks like them...vestiges of the peculiar institution and jim crow both...psychological conditioning associated with white supremacy and black inferiority in a modern, subtle context.....the behaviors emerge in many ways.........think about it....look at blk conservatives....white is right in their minds...even when they cannot explain why it actually is........
Solomonic:

Yes. It has happened to me. More than once. Each time it has happened I am dumbfounded.


This is part of the reason it so hard for us to come to a consensus. The opinion of those who mean us no good still are held as the determinator of right and wrong.

When was near to publishing my first book, this "verification" raised its ugly head. I was asked, "Who said you could do this?" When I made that statement here on this board, that I was an American who is African American, and that African American is my ancestral nationality, I was quickly challenged for documentation/verification that such could be true. I that is a little off the mark, but it is fabric from the same cloth.

It's the same phenomenon that makes a "black" person buy a Buick from a "white" dealer when there is a "black" dealer in the next town.

PEACE

Jim Chester

You are who you say you are. Your children are who you say you are.
Geez, I believe my ancestral nationality was African until some white folks via England, Scotland, Ireland, fronting as "Americans" kidnapped 'em in something called a Slave Ship. After that three month or so journey, they were re-named something called niggers, jiggaboos, coons, less than human. Therefore, I'm an African-in-America. Can't be both the Slave and the Master. Something's wrong with this whole nightmare. In my whole life, have never been called an American by any Caucasian. Ain't that somethin'?????

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Originally posted by James Wesley It's the same phenomenon that makes a "black" person buy a Buick from a "white" dealer when there is a "black" dealer in the next town.



Jim:

"Phenomenon?"

Why is it a "phenomenon" to do business with an auto dealership in your own town?

One that pays taxes to your own municipality and employs local residents?

So, you're saying that you'll drive to the next town, just to buy from a black man?

Sounds a bit racist, eh, Jim?

Confused
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Originally posted by Solomonic:
Has this ever happened to you?

A black person (someone you know, like, maybe even respect) asks you a question about something you are very knowledgeable about but won't accept your input without running it by dee white man. When I say knowledgeable I'm talking something you work with everyday professionally, something you have intimate experience with, or even something you are academically trained in.

Why do some black people disregard your knowledge, credentials, and/or education unless they can verify your feedback with someone white?


I have no idea.

But, whatever the reason, it's no doubt the white man's fault.
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Originally posted by James Wesley Chester:
"Geez, I believe my ancestral nationality was African ..." - Norland

Gee, Norland you really have been listening to "The European Line." They have you believing Africa is a nation. Why does your intellect "go on vacation" when it comes to identifying yourself?
JWC! Stop that! The Broken Record Theatre is Now Closed! Razz
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When I made that statement here on this board, that I was an American who is African American, and that African American is my ancestral nationality, I was quickly challenged for documentation/verification that such could be true. I that is a little off the mark, but it is fabric from the same cloth.

YOU HAVE NO INTEGRITY and apparently NO CLUE!
That has NOTHING TO DO WITH - White Verification = Accurate?

Maybe you're suggesting it's from the BLACK VERIFICATION "cloth"... Well, actually, it's from The STUFF THAT MAKES SENSE "cloth". Try it! Polish all your goods with it! It's a magical cloth!

(Don't you ever get board saying - bringing up -the same thing in almost every thread? Confused)
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Originally posted by Les Apt:
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Originally posted by Solomonic:
Has this ever happened to you?

A black person (someone you know, like, maybe even respect) asks you a question about something you are very knowledgeable about but won't accept your input without running it by dee white man. When I say knowledgeable I'm talking something you work with everyday professionally, something you have intimate experience with, or even something you are academically trained in.

Why do some black people disregard your knowledge, credentials, and/or education unless they can verify your feedback with someone white?


I have no idea.

But, whatever the reason, it's no doubt the white man's fault.
Your input was not solicited. But, of course, your psychotic disease reared it's ugly head and you felt compelled to respond when it couldn't possibly pertain to you... Those demanding, order giving voices are a beeotch! huh?

thumbsup This Is LES(s) Apt!
Signing off with Notes From The PSYCHE Ward!
(I guess even the mentally deranged need their own version of Action News! and (twisted) Political Commentary.)
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I have no idea.
What a profound and revealing statement! winkgrin

It just so happens to be soooooooo true! rotflmao

(Why do you make it so easy to be amused by you?) Big Grin
I have had it to happen to me so many times until I now do not waste my breath with some people; I just let them do what I know they have been socially conditioned to do, and save my breath for those who are not still seeing life through the racist veil.

A prime example is some of the infiltrators on this board who demand, "proof" or "where is it written . . ." if the topic is racism, discrimination, or the conspiracy aspects institutionalized or otherwise racism; while others of us on this board happen to be walking, talking, living, breathing human camcorders of such occurrences; they still insist on hearing it from "dee white man" or proof in the writings of "dee white man."
Sorry Solomonic (for my other post)...
I'm sure it's happened to me perhaps some time ago and I know I've seen it happen...

I'm like SUNNUBIAN...
It doesn't even register long enough to even remember. Kind of like some of the everyday racist remarks and undercurrents that are brushed off due to the "ignorance" of the purveyors... Some of that stuff, you pay no mind.

There are a few things I reflect on now as it relates to my job, etc. but that W-Verification thing doesn't register heavily as one...
I see, NMag.

Now, inexplicable black behavior in the black community is the white man's fault, too. Hundreds of years of conditioning by the white oppressors, right?

Of course you don't confront the black person who's offended you with such behavior; it's far too easy to chalk it up to white influence rather than to the offending black person's inablility to think for himself.

Roll Eyes
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Originally posted by ArabianQueen:

What's America anyway?


America is a continent (or two, or three, depending on who's counting). It includes my own country, the USA, as well as my wife's country of Colombia. My wife and I are both Americans, dispite being citizens of different American nations.

For some reason, some people believe that America is a country. No doubt some of those same people also believe that Africa is a country.

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Originally posted by Les Apt:
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Originally posted by James Wesley It's the same phenomenon that makes a "black" person buy a Buick from a "white" dealer when there is a "black" dealer in the next town.



Jim:

"Phenomenon?"

Why is it a "phenomenon" to do business with an auto dealership in your own town?

One that pays taxes to your own municipality and employs local residents?

So, you're saying that you'll drive to the next town, just to buy from a black man?

Sounds a bit racist, eh, Jim?

Confused
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Of course you don't confront the black person who's offended you with such behavior; it's far too easy to chalk it up to white influence rather than to the offending black person's inablility to think for himself.

You obviously need to get more sun or something...

You're ofF to assuming what the hell I would or wouldn't do, again.

FrownPoor wittle, wonlely, White w(g)uy w(t)hinks w(t)he world w(r)evolves w(a)round him!

Sorry that your "I wish I knew what Black people know" butt isn't privy to what happens to Black people that cop that posture. So, I guess that's why you speculate, huh? LACK of knowledge will make the insecure assume knowledge, huh?

FREE LOADER!
I'm not going to sponsor your Black Education.
Just because you're oblivious to things that don't fit the "profile" of sh*t you want to believe, don't go aSSuming that you and Whites like you are the object of Black's Indignant Affection...

THIS IS MY LAST POST TO YOUR.... all too aSSuming a$$!

I left out the fact that most of my experience on my job and more specifically people in other fields so to speak that I come in contact with who happen to be White are the ones I can faintly remember playing that role. I didn't mention it because it was irrelevant here. I think I already told you: INTELLIGENCE = knowing how to separate and not mix issues.

Go back and read what I agreed to Sunnubian about - i.e. what I actually said. CONTEXT and actual CONTENT might help you. If you are insinuating that I let Black people off the hook when I don't do the same for Whites... then read what I said again...
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Kind of like some of the everyday racist remarks and undercurrents that are brushed off due to the "ignorance" of the purveyors... Some of that stuff, you pay no mind.

Well.... I felt like I would help you.
That's a direct reference to White racism, big and small... (well mostly small)...

Hmmm.... did you read the last line?
(Sounds like it's a lot of White individuals who I can vividly remember that I letting "off the hook" and... as you say... charging it to [White] societal influence and not to the individuals ability to think for themselves.)

POINT OF DEPARTURE:
In the spirit of what some of your "ilk" likes to say... (and I think you've said something resembling) - i.e. Blacks have it good here in "America"... You really should ponder how good Whites have that Blacks are not or have not engaged in resistance like others around the globe.

I let you ponder on that... Suffice it to say you might not sleep as well if Blacks explored the realm of everything they could do now or then considering that we "blame everything" on the "White Man"...

Also, you can't erase the history of this country, the social structure and socialization just because you wished or "hope" it was/is not so. "Hoping" for reality to not be so is engaging in fantasy and delusional thinking. To the extent that you think that [the troubled history and reality of the U.S.] implicates you directly as a White guy in an unfavorable manner or one that "unfairly" hinders/hampers you... shows you relative level of maturity.

I won't aSSume that you take the opinion that others of your "ilk" (your term) do... But I find it funny how conversations with Whites like yourself almost always get to a point where "they" eventually say... "LIFE ISN'T FAIR"... "DEAL WITH IT!"

I wonder why you are having problems dealing with whatever you perceive to be the reality you are faced with...
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Originally posted by Les Apt:
Interesting, Riccardo, interesting...

Funny how neither my neighbor (from Columbia), nor anyone she knew or anyone her 9 brothers and sisters knew, while living in Columbia EVER referred to themselves as "American" until they moved to the United States.


Your neighbors from British Columbia probably called themselves Canadians. A lot of people will refer to themselves by country, rather than by continent.

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Originally posted by Les Apt:
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Originally posted by Les Apt:
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Originally posted by James Wesley It's the same phenomenon that makes a "black" person buy a Buick from a "white" dealer when there is a "black" dealer in the next town.



Jim:

"Phenomenon?"

Why is it a "phenomenon" to do business with an auto dealership in your own town?

One that pays taxes to your own municipality and employs local residents?

So, you're saying that you'll drive to the next town, just to buy from a black man?

Sounds a bit racist, eh, Jim?

Confused

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