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Compton, South Central Los Angeles, and/or other inner-city communities, Caucasians who cheat their constituency out of competent representation is not relevent. It is certain, that since the Los Angeles Times has published this article, those Caucasians who are already aware of this disgraceful activity as it concerns their misfit leadership, and/or those Caucasians who are now being informed, will take the necessary steps to remove elected officials unworthy of the position from elected office.

The question to ask is: When will the Black community, start doing the same, as it applies to removing our own inept elected Black leadership, who are truly unworthy of holding elected office, period, period, period?

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THE NATION

Group Lists 13 'Most Corrupt' in Congress

Three California lawmakers are named by the ethics watchdog. A spokesman for one senator says the report is 'pure politics.'

By Chuck Neubauer, Times Staff Writer

September 25, 2005

WASHINGTON "” A watchdog group, naming what it calls "the 13 most corrupt members of Congress," is calling for ethics investigations of some of the most prominent leaders on Capitol Hill in a report to be released Monday.

Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington says in its report that the 13 members, among them Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist (R-Tenn.) and House Majority Whip Roy Blunt (R-Mo.), might have violated a variety of congressional ethics rules.

The bipartisan list includes three Californians: Reps. Richard W. Pombo (R-Tracy), Maxine Waters (D-Los Angeles) and Randy "Duke" Cunningham (R-Rancho Santa Fe).

Cunningham is one of two House members whose residences have been searched as part of separate federal criminal investigations. The other, Rep. William J. Jefferson (D-La.), also is named on the watchdog group's list.

Three of those named on the list "” Sen. Conrad Burns (R-Mont.) and Reps. Bob Ney (R-Ohio) and Tom Feeney (R-Fla.) "” were cited for their dealings with onetime super-lobbyist Jack Abramoff, who is the subject of congressional and federal grand jury investigations. Abramoff was indicted last month on fraud charges relating to a Florida business deal. He has pleaded not guilty.

"They all violated ethics rules," Melanie Sloan, the watchdog group's executive director, said of the 13 members of Congress on its list. She criticized both political parties for what she said was a failure to police ethics.

James Pendleton, a spokesman for Burns, dismissed the group's report as "pure politics." Ney's press secretary, Brian Walsh, said: "We don't give Melanie Sloan and her liberal organization an ounce of credibility."

Its report, titled "Beyond DeLay: The 13 Most Corrupt Members of Congress," is based on news articles and other documents, the watchdog group said. It made the report available to the Los Angeles Times.

Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington "was compelled to research and release a report on these corrupt members because the ethics committees in both the House and Senate are completely inert," Sloan said. "The report calls for the House and Senate to act to investigate and take appropriate action against them for these violations of the rules."

The watchdog group has been outspoken in criticizing House Majority Leader Tom DeLay (R-Texas) for what Sloan calls his ethical lapses.

"Nonetheless, we recognize that Rep. DeLay is not the only member of Congress whose behavior merits scrutiny," the report says. "There are a significant number of other members who have engaged in similarly egregious conduct, thus the name of the report: 'Beyond DeLay.' "

It says the group's goal is "to galvanize both the House Committee on Standards of Official Conduct and the Senate Select Committee on Ethics into action. The ethics committees have lain largely dormant over the past years despite the often appalling conduct of their members."

Sloan expressed impatience with both parties. "Democrats are just as much to blame as Republicans for the current ethics deadlock. The Democrats won't file ethics complaints against even the most egregious violators like DeLay and Ney.... The Democrats are spineless," she said.

Sloan said she had been unable to persuade any member of the House to file ethics complaints that the watchdog group has drawn up against Ney and Cunningham. House rules do not permit outside groups to file complaints.

"It is outrageous that outsiders can't file complaints, since Congress has demonstrated its unwillingness to police its own conduct," Sloan said.

In 2004, Sloan helped then-Rep. Chris Bell (D-Texas), a lame duck, file a complaint against fellow-Texan DeLay. The House ethics committee admonished DeLay, but also said Bell had violated a House rule by filing a complaint containing "innuendo, speculative assertions or conclusory statements."

The Senate does permit outside complaints, but Sloan said they were routinely dismissed as "speculative."

Both ethics committees can initiate investigations on their own without a complaint. Such investigations tend to be confidential in the early stages.

A spokesman for the House ethics committee said he could not speak on any matter that may be pending before the committee. Rob Walker, chief counsel for the Senate Select Committee on Ethics, declined to comment.

The 13 members of Congress recommended for investigation by the watchdog group are:

"¢ Sen. Bill Frist: The report accuses him of violating federal campaign finance laws in how he disclosed a campaign loan. It also calls for an inquiry over his recent sale of stock in HCA Inc., his family's hospital corporation. The sale has raised questions about possible insider dealing. Frist aides confirmed Friday that the SEC was investigating. They have denied claims of campaign finance violations.

"¢ Rep. Roy Blunt: The report criticizes him for trying to insert provisions into bills that would have benefited, in one case, a client of his lobbyist son and in another case, the employer of his lobbyist girlfriend, now his wife.

"¢ Sen. Conrad Burns: The report says that questions arose over $3 million in appropriations he earmarked for an Indian tribe in Michigan that was a client of lobbyist Abramoff. The senator received substantial campaign contributions from Abramoff and various clients.

"Sen. Burns did nothing wrong, and any accusation to the contrary is pure politics," said James Pendleton, his director of communications. He said Burns had earmarked the appropriation at the request of the Michigan congressional delegation.

"¢ Rep. Bob Ney: The report says the chairman of the House Administration Committee went on a golf outing to Scotland in 2002, arranged by Abramoff, at a time when the congressman was trying to insert a provision into legislation to benefit one of Abramoff's tribal clients.

Ney reported to the House that the trip was paid for entirely by the National Center for Public Policy Research, a conservative think tank, which denied paying any of the costs. Ney has said he had been duped by Abramoff.

"¢ Rep. Tom Feeney: The report says he incorrectly reported that a golf trip to Scotland with Abramoff in 2003 was paid for by the National Center for Public Policy Research, which denied it. A Feeney aide said the congressman had been misled. Questions also have arisen about two other privately funded trips.

"¢ Rep. Richard W. Pombo: He paid his wife and brother $357,325 in campaign funds in the last four years, the report says. He also supported the wind-power industry before the Department of Interior without disclosing that his parents received hundreds of thousands of dollars in royalties from wind-power turbines on their ranch.

Brian Kennedy, a spokesman for Pombo, said that "each of the charges is baseless." He called the watchdog group "a Democratic attack group, and all of their charges should be taken with a grain of salt."

Rep. Maxine Waters: The report cites a December 2004 Los Angeles Times investigation disclosing how members of the congresswoman's family have made more than $1 million in the last eight years by doing business with companies, candidates and causes that Waters has helped. Before publication of the Times investigation last year, Waters declined to be interviewed, but said of her family members: "They do their business, and I do mine."

"¢ Sen. Rick Santorum (R-Pa.): The report says he encountered controversy over disclosures that Pennsylvania taxpayers paid for his children's schooling while they lived in Virginia. Santorum maintained he did nothing wrong, and has pulled his children out of the school, according to reports.

"¢ Reps. Randy "Duke" Cunningham and William J. Jefferson: Both congressional veterans are under federal investigation.

Cunningham, who has announced that he will not run for reelection, faces questions over his dealings with a defense contractor who allegedly overpaid him when he purchased Cunningham's house. Jefferson is under scrutiny for his role in an overseas business deal. Normally the House ethics committee does not hold inquiries while criminal investigations are underway.

"¢ Rep. Charles H. Taylor (R-N.C.): The report says that questions have been raised about his private business interests, including a savings and loan in Asheville, N.C., and personal business interests in Russia.

"¢ Rep. Marilyn N. Musgrave (R-Colo.) and Rep. Rick Renzi (R-Ariz.): Both second-term House members encountered criticisms tied to campaign activities, the report says.

Musgrave was accused of misusing her congressional office for campaign purposes. Renzi was accused of financing portions of his 2002 campaign with improper loans.

Copyright 2005 Los Angeles Times

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This should take some of the steam out of those Black folks out there who have such admiration, praise, and/or respect for Congresswoman Maxine Waters.

Furthermore it would not take an advanced university degree, a BS degree from any accredited university, and/or even so much as a High School diploma, to determine that these individuals who claim to represent our community, are really playing games, stealing anything that they think that they can get away with, serving their family members, cheesing up to outsiders, kissing up to personal friends, and/or misrepresenting their constituency.

Mind you a consituency, such as the residents of Compton, CA, South Central Los Angeles, Baltimore, MD, Oakland, CA, etc., etc., are the most economically deprived Black or formerly Black communities within the U.S.

Sincerely,

Michael Lofton

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Too funny..... @ you LOFTON!


......While some Black people do not place to much significance or credence in the article as published and its' basis, other ethnic groups do.

The demographic picture of South Central Los Angeles, Compton, etc., are changing,..... changing from a formerly predominately Black community, to primarily Hispanic, a few Caucasians, some Koreans, etc. As the dominate ethic group, the dominate ethnic group being Hispanic gain their U.S. citizenship status, that gives citizens who are not felons the right to vote, slim chance exists where a Maxine "Kerosene" Waters, Merv Dymally, Yvonne "Brentwood" Burke, Kevin Murray, etc., etc., will remain in political office.

It is certain that the information as published will be used by every candidate who seeks to run for election during the next election.

It is certain, that while the Los Angeles Sentinel, the so-called largest Black newspaper on the West Coast, owned by the notorious poverty pimping Danny Bakewell will not publish such information, the La Opinion, a Hispanic newspaper, and/or other non Black owned media outlets will. The owners, chief editors, etc., of the Los Angeles Sentinel are too busy protecting their personal associates or friends in high places, one being Congresswoman Maxine Waters to publish this reality for the benefit of Black people.

...In the very near future, ignorance, selfishness, greed, and/or gross incompetence on the part of our own leadership, the Los Angeles Sentinel owners or journalists, the actions of the so-called Black middleclass to praise a Maxine Waters, etc., the unintelligent voting of Black people in general, are going to kill off any prospect of any Black candidate holding elected office over a South Central Los Angeles, Compton, California, etc.

Black people can choose to blame this treasonous activity by our own elected leadership on racist Caucasians, the Bush Adminstration, play race card, follow and support this foolishness if they choose to, but the only individuals going down like the titanic in this situtation is in fact the Black community, namely because of the disgrace of our own elected leadership, and/or those in our community who praise them!

It is certain, the rebuilding effort of New Orleans won't be controlled by Black people. Furthermore, by and large, Hispanics will be the primary source of labor, meaning Black people will not be on the receiving end of the gains from this rebuilding effort. New Orleans, like South Central Los Angeles, and/or other communities that are or were formerly predominately Black will be going through major demographic shifts. This being said, the days of this inept Black elected leadership are numbered, and the future for the Black community doesn't look too promising in these areas, namely because of our failure to be ethical, be respectful, obey the law, serve as opposed to game playing, being selfish, and misrepresenting the Black community, etc., etc.



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I guess we must all receive our daily dose of being reminded of how fucked up black people are over everyone else...be sure you get that understood correctly....after listening to some negroes, it seems like black people should all get guns and just shoot themselves and get it over with....because we are the scourge of the land and do not contribute shit worthwhile to it.........
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Nmaginate,
I guess we must all receive our daily dose of being reminded of how fucked up black people are over everyone else...be sure you get that understood correctly....after listening to some negroes, it seems like black people should all get guns and just shoot themselves and get it over with....because we are the scourge of the land and do not contribute shit worthwhile to it.........


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THE SPECIAL ELECTION
Several States May Revisit Redistricting

California voters are not the only ones who will decide whether to take the redrawing of political lines out of the hands of officeholders.

By Nancy Vogel, Times Staff Writer

September 26, 2005

SACRAMENTO "” When California voters go to the polls Nov. 8 to decide whether to strip lawmakers of the authority to draw their own districts, so will voters in Ohio. Millions more are likely to follow in Massachusetts and Florida.

In these and more than a dozen other states, activists are busy concocting different solutions to the same problem. They are trying to find a less political way to draw districts for Congress and legislatures so voters have a better crack at actually deciding elections.

What's at stake, some say, is democracy's cornerstone.

"To some extent, the power to draw lines is more important than the power of voting," said Nathaniel Persily, a redistricting expert who is a professor of law and political science at the University of Pennsylvania. "The redistricting process is often more determinative of who wins elections than the voting in elections itself."

From California, where Proposition 77 would put redistricting in the hands of three retired judges, to Florida, where a circulating initiative would create a 15-member bipartisan redistricting commission, the usually arcane, once-a-decade process of redrawing districts to even out shifts in population is a hot political topic.

Besides ballot measures pending or in the works in California, Ohio, Florida and Massachusetts, bills to create independent or bipartisan redistricting commissions have been introduced in at least 12 state legislatures this year. In Congress, a Tennessee Republican introduced a bill to mandate independent commissions nationwide.

The solutions that government watchdogs propose vary, but their lamentations sound alike across the country. They complain of government increasingly beyond the influence of voters, of a shortage of people willing to run for office and of ideological polarization among those who are elected.

"It's frustration with a lack of competition, a lack of accountability," said Mary Boyle, press secretary for Common Cause, the national nonpartisan, nonprofit group leading the charge in several states.

In all the states considering ballot measures, legislators now draw at least congressional boundaries. And they naturally skew the lines to favor the party in power. Weird-shaped districts dip, twist and jab to capture enough Democratic or Republican voters to ensure the reelection of the incumbent politicians.

"We have congressional districts that span five or six counties," said Keary McCarthy, a spokesman for Reform Ohio Now, the group sponsoring a constitutional amendment on the Nov. 8 ballot in that state. "We have districts with little arms coming out."

In Florida, the 27th State Senate District stretches nearly from the Gulf of Mexico to the Atlantic coast and takes three hours to cross by car. It was created from the scraps of other nearby districts, said Sen. Dave Aronberg, a Democrat who holds the seat. "This seat became the leftovers," he said.

Contorted political lines such as these are a tradition almost as old as the U.S. itself and called "gerrymandering," after the salamander-shaped county that Massachusetts Gov. Elbridge Gerry drew in 1812 to favor his political party. But lately, toleration of the practice has been fading.

Redistricting reform proponents, including Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger, say the facts speak for themselves: In November 2004, not one of the 153 congressional and legislative races in California changed parties. None of Ohio's congressional seats changed hands. Either a Democrat or a Republican didn't bother to run in 72% of the races for the Florida Legislature and almost half the races for the Massachusetts Legislature.

"Sort of like the Politburo," said Pamela H. Wilmot, executive director of Common Cause Massachusetts. She said some lawmakers there haven't faced an opponent in more than a decade. "You can imagine that that has some pretty dire consequences to political accountability," she said.

Among the civic "pathologies" created by gerrymandering is a dearth of moderate, centrist politicians more open to compromise, said Ohio State University political professor Herb Asher.

When districts are drawn to favor one party, competitors from other parties are discouraged from running. So the real fight for the seat unfolds in the primary election. To win the primary, candidates appeal to the true believers of their party. The most liberal Democrats and most conservative Republicans tend to get elected.

"We wonder why we're electing Democrats and Republicans who seem to be more extreme than the average Democrat or Republican," said Asher, "and when they get to the statehouse, they don't seem to talk to one another."

Calls for taking redistricting from the self-interested hands of lawmakers are nothing new. They often arise from the out-of-power party, whose enthusiasm for "reform" wanes once they've gained control. And groups such as Common Cause have been pursuing reform since the 1970s, with occasional success.

A dozen states don't allow lawmakers to draw legislative districts, and six don't allow lawmakers to draw congressional boundaries, according to the National Conference of State Legislatures. They include Arizona, where voters passed a Common Cause-backed initiative in 2000 to shift redistricting to a bipartisan panel.

Some political scientists say the wave of new redistricting proposals is in part a reaction to recent events in Texas and Georgia. There, legislatures upended a century-old tradition of redrawing political boundaries only once every 10 years, upon the arrival of fresh data from the national census.

Republicans in Texas gained control of the Legislature in 2002, and redrew congressional lines the following year. Under the new districts, Republicans gained five seats and helped the national party retain control of the U.S. House of Representatives.

Similarly, in Georgia, after Republicans gained control of both houses of the Legislature in 2004, they redrew congressional districts that government watchdogs said had been gerrymandered by Democrats.

"The lines are a heck of a lot cleaner than they were," said Bill Bozarth, executive director of Common Cause Georgia.

Still, he said, he intends to pursue legislation to create an independent commission. Georgia does not have an initiative process. "We're trying to be the honest broker, saying it doesn't matter who screws whom, it's a lousy process," Bozarth said.

Rank-and-file Republicans across the nation have long called for independent redistricting, said Douglas M. Johnson, a research associate with the Rose Institute of State and Local Government at Claremont McKenna College, and now more Democrats seek it too, as a defense.

"Now it's a bipartisan push," Johnson said, "so that kind of frees a lot more support and energy."

Others say independent redistricting is simply the next goal of government watchdog groups that had been focused on limiting campaign contributions.

"It is still the reform du jour among the same people that brought you campaign finance reform," said Bruce Cain, director of the Institute of Governmental Studies at UC Berkeley.

The move to change who does redistricting is often viewed suspiciously as partisan.

In California, for example, Democratic legislative leaders are scrambling to raise money to defeat Proposition 77. They have said they are willing to give up redistricting authority, but not under the rules of Schwarzenegger's initiative. They complain that it calls for the immediate redrawing of legislative, congressional and Board of Equalization districts, before the 2010 Census.

Assembly Speaker Fabian Nuñez (D-Los Angeles) said he hoped to defeat Proposition 77 and then design a commission with more accountability and independence for voters to consider at a future election.

"There are 3 million additional people since the last census in California," Nuñez said, "and those folks will not get an opportunity to have equitable representation" under Proposition 77.

Nuñez called the initiative "a political grab a la Tom DeLay," referring to the Texas Republican congressman who landed in ethical trouble for his involvement in the Texas 2003 redistricting plan.

A September Field Poll shows Proposition 77 foundering, with more Californians opposed than in support "” 46% to 32%.

Democratic political consultant Garry South predicts that the measure is doomed by its complexity, its lack of Democratic support, the state's historic reluctance to change redistricting "” a dozen measures have been defeated since 1926 "” and Schwarzenegger's low standing with voters.

"If a governor who's at 34% at the polls can pass a measure that's at 35% in the polls, I'll eat my hat," South said.

Rob Richie, executive director of the nonprofit, nonpartisan FairVote "” the Center for Voting and Democracy in Maryland, said he fears that the requirement for an immediate redistricting, without new census data, will hamper the ballot measures in Ohio and California and the proposal being circulated in Florida.

Richie said the average voter understands it is potentially corrupting to allow politicians to structure their own elections. But, he said, a mid-decade redistricting raises questions about the rush to draw new lines without knowing which cities and counties have gained and lost population over the last five years.

"The voter will say, 'Why aren't they waiting, playing with the rules the way they are?' " Richie said.

In Massachusetts, activists shied away from requiring that new lines be drawn before the next census. "It muddies the water in terms of what people are voting on," said Wilmot of Common Cause Massachusetts. "Are they voting on the process or are they voting on the current districts?"

But in Florida, polls show it's an easy sell, said Betty Castor, a former Democratic lawmaker and a volunteer backer of the redistricting measures now being circulated on petitions there. "If you could see our congressional seats," Castor said. "It's worse than a jigsaw puzzle. It's a catastrophe.... This is so egregious it needs to be corrected now."

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Drawing the lines

On Nov. 8, California and Ohio voters will consider stripping state lawmakers of the authority to draw legislative and congressional boundaries. Signatures are also being gathered to put redistricting measures on the ballot in Florida and Massachusetts. Each state takes a different approach.

California

"¢ Proposition 77

Who draws the lines: Twenty-four retired state or federal judges who have never held partisan office are selected randomly by the Judicial Council until half are Democrats and half Republicans. The four legislative leaders, two Democrats and two are Republicans, each nominate three judges not of their party. Each leader then eliminates one of the nominated judges. From the remaining judges, three are chosen at random.

Criteria for districts: Each Senate district must be made up of two Assembly districts. Districts should be as compact as possible and minimize the splitting of counties and cities. Incumbent addresses cannot be taken into account.

Timeline: New maps would be used for the June 2006 election. Voters would consider the new maps on the November 2006 ballot, and if they were to reject them, politicians elected under the plan would still serve out their terms. After 2006, redistricting would be done every 10 years following the federal census.

Ohio

"¢ State Issue 4

Who draws the lines: The longest- and second-longest-serving appellate judges choose two commission members, and those members then appoint three other members from applicants.

Criteria for districts: Must be "competitive," as defined by a mathematical formula. Members may alter a plan to preserve communities of interest based on geography, economics or race so long as the alteration does not significantly reduce competitiveness.

Timeline: Boundaries must be redrawn immediately and used in the following election, after which redistricting is done every 10 years following the federal census.

Florida

"¢ Proposal in circulation *

Who draws the lines: The leader of each house of the Legislature chooses three members, as do the minority parties in each house. The chief justice of the Supreme Court chooses three members, each of whom lives in a different appellate court district, to create a 15-member commission. Actions by the commission require 10 votes.

Criteria for districts: Districts must be compact, use political and geographical boundaries where practical, preserve communities of interest and not take incumbents' addresses into account. Competitive districts should be favored.

Timeline: Commission adopts a plan in 2007 and the new districts are used in 2008.

Massachusetts

"¢ Proposal in circulation

Who draws the lines: The governor appoints a dean or professor of law, government or political science from a Massachusetts university; the attorney general appoints a retired judge; and the secretary of the commonwealth appoints a civil rights law expert. Those three members then choose four more members from a list of nominees prepared by the top four legislative leaders.

Criteria for districts: Districts should be compact, lie within municipal boundaries, keep neighborhoods together, contain House of Representative districts within Senate districts and not take the addresses of incumbents into account.

Timeline: The commission adopts a plan after the federal census in 2010.

* Each aspect would appear separately on the ballot.

Source: Times research

Copyright 2005 Los Angeles Times

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.....This has nothing to do with Black people being F-up. Now substitute the phrase that Black people fail to do what is rational, or necessary for the survival of the Black community and I will agree that what you say is true. The ineptness of our own leadership and those who praise is reducing the chance of survival of Black people in South Central Los Angeles, Compton, New Orleans, Baltimore, Detroit, etc., etc.

.....Black people are being displaced by other ethnic groups in many communities that were, or are predominately Black, namely because of the ineptness of our own leadership, and the so-called Black middleclass who praise them!

....Several States seek to make changes by removing the power of elected official to make their own political boundaries, so that the people will have more influence over the election process. This is a good thing, because:

A. For too long Democratic elected officials have "feathered their own nests" at the expense of their constituency.

B. Making a voting block a better representation of the mix of ethnic groups, so that no single ethnic group, and/or special interest group can dominate the political process, will make for better government.

C. When a voting block has been largely voting unintelligently, such as what commonly takes place in the Black community, unintelligent voting that keeps inept elected officials in office, redistricting will increase the number of intelligent voters, and remove the tendency of inept, self serving elected officials, to use the votes of the unintelligent to keep misfit elected officials in office.

I support this cause, the cause to redistrict the inner-city, so that misfits are not voted into power, because I'm one citizen from the Black community who has good reason to condemn and who has qualms with the existing status quo!

Sincerely,

Michael Lofton

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what specificall is so inept about black leaders that make them so much dumber and less effective than non-black leaders/representatives and how are black people so dumb compared to others and what should black people do? Also do you think 91% of the FEMA contracts should go to white firms.....do you think that is an inequity also? What do you think should be done to level the playing field and get black contractors the opportunity to garner some of those contracts?
"I second that! I clicked on your "linked quote" and you got to do better than that. Your Dymally wild goose chases are going to stop. No quotes, no empty links will be accepted. Give an answer or don't answer at all." by Huey


....Seconding ignorant, inept, treasonous, self-serving, elitist, criminal, sleazy, backstabbing misfits in a despot is saying mountains about an individual.

At any rate, Illegal Immigrant serving foreign interests Merv Dymally, violating the Los Angeles County Charter illegally holding elected office "Brentwood" Burke, no good Herb Wesson, "caught with his pant down while having sex with a prostitute in a government own vehicle" no good deceitful Kevin Murray, "Kerosene in deep" Waters, "never meant to serve her constituency in the first place no good" Diane Watson, etc., days are numbered in the State of California.

Demographic shifts, and the changes being made in the political process to make it possible for elected officials who truly serve the people, as opposed to special interests, etc., etc., will get rid of these misfits, and/or any future misfits who follow them! The beauty of it, I don't have to lift a finger to get rid of these individuals, because the responsible community, which is by and large any other community but the Black community will remove these individuals from office!

For the first time in well over thirty years, when these misfits are replaced, the inner-city residents begin to prosper, because free enterprise, and respect for the rights of citizens replaces a social welfare driven economy, corruption, and the era of the advocates of sleaze.

....Sure feels good to be in the winner's circle as opposed to admiring losers and misfits. Better to know where you stand, pro or con, rather than be associated with members of the Democratic Party who claim they serve the indigent, the oppressed, the disadvantaged, the so-called minority community, but their actions reveal otherwise!

Going around, and around with a Kevin41, Huey, or otherwise won't save them or the Black community. Make no mistake predominately Black communities are losing ground throughout the U.S., not because of the Bush Administration, racist Caucasians, the loss of Affirmative Action benefits, but because of the ineptness of own leadership, and/or the so-called Black middleclass who praise them!


Sincerely,

Michael Lofton
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that is just rhetorical bullschit.....he needs to name specifics and quit thinking that trashing people counts as something substantial.....oh well...there's that word again....substantial.....who am I kidding? that ain't happening here with this cat.......


"¢ Rep. Maxine Waters: The report cites a December 2004 Los Angeles Times investigation disclosing how members of the congresswoman's family have made more than $1 million in the last eight years by doing business with companies, candidates and causes that Waters has helped. Before publication of the Times investigation last year, Waters declined to be interviewed, but said of her family members: "They do their business, and I do mine." an excerpt from the Los Angeles Times

....having been a witness to sleaze, along with many other reputable witnesses, as it relates to numerous other incidents that precede this article in the Los Angeles Times, this blatantly unethical activity on the part of Maxine Waters, etc., etc., is not in the least surprising.......

.....as if to say, that a couple of individuals are the lone voice of protest, when the reality or it surely speaks differently!


....Well now, similar information has been published in the Los Angeles Times, and numerous other reputable sources.

The Los Angeles Times is very reputable. The Los Angeles Times is a world renowned newspaper, with an ever growing global customer base.

In comparison, the Los Angeles Sentinel, the largest Black owned newspaper on the West Coast, couldn't publish factual information if it was given to its' editors and journalists verbatum. The Los Angeles Sentinel publishes falsehoods about Black people and neither retracts, corrects, nor makes an apology for doing so, namely as it applies to publishing falsehoods about the character of hard working ethical law abiding Black people. This is not surprising in the least considering those of sleaze, and incompetence who lead or have a controlling ownership in the Sentinel, the latest owner being the infamous poverty pimping and Brotherhood Crusade Head.....

.....the infamous poverty pimping no good Danny Bakewell.


The individuals mentioned are not worthy of praise or admiration. Speaking of B.S., the door is open to any reader to come after me for circulating such information. I have assets worth suing for, but Oh well, running off at the mouth, mis-statement of facts, falsehoods, personal biases, baseless character assassination, playing the race card, running away from the reality of it, have yet to compete with factual information, be it yesteryear, today, or years from now.

I'm willing to bet strongly that the many readers of the Los Angeles Times, and the many readers of the information that I have shared have not joined forces with a handful of disgruntled misinformed playing the race card dissenters in a Kevin41, Huey, etc., etc., in characterizing this material as being B.S.

Heck, Black people who have migrated to the U.S., have stated similar information about Maxine Waters, Jesse Jackson, Nate Holden, Martin Ludlow, Herb Wesson, Merv Dymally, Marion Barry, Wilson Goode, Kevin Murray, Walter Tucker, Pat Moore, David Cunningham, Robert Farrel, Henry Lyons, HH Brookins, Al Sharpton, Danny Bakewell, Johhny Cochran, etc., etc., etc., The Los Angeles Sentinel, the NAACP, PUSH, SCLC, "Butcher/Killer King" Hospital, the Congressional Black Caucus, without Michael Lofton intitiating or leading the conversation!

......so much for the spam characterization, because the individuals on the receiving end of sleaze, incompetence, treason, selfishness, etc., etc., have very good reason to know otherwise!


...definitely not spam.

I'm not kidding, and these reputable individuals are neither kidding, nor running away from the reality of it.

Funny how individuals in a Kevin41, Huey, etc., etc., who are not residents of Los Angeles, South Central Los Angeles, Compton, etc., etc., who do not live here, or who have not lived here long enough, or who have refused to accept the truth by closing their eyes, ears, minds, to the reality of it, while those who live here, those who have seen such activity face to face, are not about to remain silent, or follow that blind circus of playing the race card individuals, whose own personal biases block out truth!


Sincerely,

Michael Lofton

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I wonder what old Lofton thinks now that Delay and Frist...two white male republican leaders...have gotten their azzes in a sling...just like the corrupt enron white males.....and those jack legged black people get to keep on keeping on? Lofty...how do you feel about your cherished republicans right about now....a sorry azz president which a 45% from 40% approval rating is giving hope...and some corrput azz congressmen to boot...hang in there Lofton...its gonna get even better for ya...mark my words.......
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I wonder what old Lofton thinks now that Delay and Frist...two white male republican leaders...have gotten their azzes in a sling...just like the corrupt enron white males.....and those jack legged black people get to keep on keeping on? Lofty...how do you feel about your cherished republicans right about now....a sorry azz president which a 45% from 40% approval rating is giving hope...and some corrput azz congressmen to boot...hang in there Lofton...its gonna get even better for ya...mark my words.......


.......again the Kevin41s, and those of similar viewpoint miss the point. Caucasians, and/or other ethnic groups will hold those accountable, without regard to political affiliation, economic status, fame, etc., who are proven to be incompetent, criminal, unethical, treasonous, etc., the indictment or public exposure of "Delay and Frist", being an example of many examples where Caucasians, and/or others expect accountability no matter who the individual, their affiliation, economic status, etc.

......The Black community on the other hand, especially as it applies to that so called Black middleclass, the so-called Black university educated choose or elect to shield, protect, praise, or reward individuals from the Black community who have been proven to be incompetent, unworthy of praise, criminal, unethical, sleazy, immoral, disgraceful, insane, unfit, treasonous, etc.

....again the the question to ask or issue of prime concern to ask is: When will the Black community, start doing the same, as it applies to removing our own inept elected Black leadership, who are truly unworthy of holding elected office, period, period, period?

.....and to use the excuse that Caucasians do it too, has absolutely no relevency, especially when it has been shown on multiple occasions that Caucasians, and many other individuals expect accountability no matter who the individual is, or the head of any organization are.

In comparison, within the typical Black community anything goes, and no one is held accountable no matter who the individuals or head of any organization are, conditions that are self-inflicted by the Black community itself, deplorable or disgraceful activity which is also responsible for the declining potential for economic, political, and/or social growth within the Black community!
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Wow....white folks prosecute their own criminal politicians and black people harbor theirs and the majority white country lets them get away with it...man....we's sho got it good in this country......


.......must be so, because the atrocities of Butcher/King hospital took place at a time when the administrators of the Hospital are predominately Black, the doctors are predominately Black, the elected officials of South Central Los Angeles and Compton are Black, and for better than twenty years absolutely nothing was done to hold anyone accountable.

If not for:

A. Demographic shifts.

B. The concern of outsiders.

C. The many complaints on the part of patients, patients surviving heirs, civil attorneys.

D. Publication of these atrocites....

........it would be business as usual at Butcher/Killer King Hospital because, it is well known by the people in the community that Brentwood Burke, Merv Dymally, Bernard Parks, Marc Ridley Thomas, Kevin Murray, Walter Tucker, many of our own Black doctors, many of our own Black nurses, Black hospital administrators, nor the Los Angeles Sentinel, would have taken it upon themselves to "blow the whistle", because more times than not, these individuals choose to protect themselves, their personal friends, our own no good deceitful Black elected officials, and/or other individuals in positions of influence at the expense of patients, the residents of South Central Los Angeles, the law abiding, and/or the truly ethical or responsible residents of South Central Los Angeles, Compton, etc.

"ARTICLE II.

Board of Supervisors

Section 4. The County of Los Angeles shall have a Board of Supervisors consisting of five members, each of whom must be an elector of the district which he represents, must reside therein during his incumbency, must have been such an elector for at least one year immediately preceding his election, and shall be elected by such district. Their terms of office shall be four years, and each shall hold until his successor is elected and qualified. No person while a member of the Board of Supervisors shall receive any compensation, in addition to that provided for by this Section, for services rendered to any public or governmental entity. They shall each receive as compensation for their services a salary, payable monthly from the County Treasury, which shall be the same as that now or hereafter prescribed by law for a judge of the Superior Court in and for the County of Los Angeles, except that retirement benefits shall be those now or hereafter provided by law for officers and employees of the County of Los Angeles. They shall devote all their time during business hours to the faithful service of the public.

Notwithstanding any other provisions of this Charter, this amendment shall be operative as to incumbent members of said Board during their respective terms. If any provision of this amendment is held inoperative as to incumbent members during their current terms, then no change made by this amendment shall be operative as to incumbent members during their current terms, but in all other respects this amendment shall be operative to the extent legally possible.

No person shall be elected and qualified for the office of member of the Board of Supervisors if such person has been elected or served in such office for three consecutive terms, commencing with a term of office which begins in December, 2002. The limitation on terms shall not apply to any unexpired term to which a person is elected or appointed if the remainder of the terms is less than one-half of the full term of office." Taken directly from the Los Angeles County Charter


Furthermore for the entire career that Yvonne B. Burke has been 2nd District Los Angeles County Supervisor, LA County Supervisor "Brentwood" Burke has used false pretenses to hold elected office. This is why she is called "Brentwood" Burke by many individuals who actually reside in the 2nd Supervisoral District, as "Brentwood" Burke. The people in the community know she does not reside in the 2nd Supervisoral District which is in violation of the Los Angeles County Charter, that clearly states that every Los Angeles County Supervisor must reside in the Supervisoral District to which he or she holds elected office.

Sincerely,

Michael Lofton
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Bring them up on charges if you can list any...
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....The people who actually live in the "Hood" know these individuals do not serve the Black community, and no amount of lip service from any Kevin41, or otherwise is convincing enough to make any believer of those individuals who actually live in South Central Los Angeles think that any of our own elected leaders serve the Black community.

Since a picture is worth a thousand words, forget I even existed, don't take my assessment, or word for it.....

......take a stroll, drive, cycle, jog, ride a horse through, take a cab, take the bus, take metrorail, or fly over Gloria Molina's district, as it applies to East Los Angeles......

......Then take a stroll, drive, cycle, jog, ride a horse through, take a cab, take the bus, take metrorail, or fly over South Central Los Angeles, Compton, Inglewood, Baltimore, Detroit, and it would not take long at all to determine which set of elected representatives truly serve their constituency, meaning our own elected Black representatives have no intention to serve the Black community.


....but as demographic shifts and/or redistricting take effect, the days of deceit and game playing on the part of our own elected leadership which is also "killing" off the Black community will mean the end of the political career or otherwise of our own elected Black leadership.

As the Black community falls so will its inept elected Black leadership!

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you'e talking but not saying anything specific...so you're are just sitting back hoping all black leadership fails in the community.....with this mindset, why do you negroes complain when people leave the community then? Hell...if your mindset is what is prevalent amongst those who stay in the community....why sit around and affiiate yourself with someone that is wishing for their own political demise? I know the black community as a whole does not think that pathological so people like you are to be ignored when making any effort to uplift black people and cause black progress.......
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What deceit and what game playing? Be specific please.......


"What a delight to be able to write about Najee Ali, the pearl in question, and at the same time be able to continue pounding on the powers that be for their silly ideas and expansionist egos.

My friend Patt Morrison broke the story that Ali, director of the nonprofit community group Project Islamic Hope, had been fired from his columnist job at the monthly L.A. Focus allegedly because U.S. Congresswoman Maxine Waters didn't like him stirring controversy in the black community.

As has been widely reported, Waters, who is on the powerful House Committee on Banking and Financial Services, had called Jheryl Busby, a co-owner of Founders National Bank and chief operating officer at LA Focus, and imperiously demanded that Ali be fired.

As Ali tells it, Busby couldn't take the heat, called Ali, told him Waters was making life difficult, and fired him on the spot. Now Ali is suing Busby for firing him, and he is represented by respected civil rights attorney and KABC radio talk-show host Leo Terrell.

That's the back story. It's got drama and historic complexity. The main story, though, is that Najee Ali is part of a rising tide of young black leaders who simply will not play the race card. They want more for L.A. than a badly diseased worldview crafted by truly sick politicians, media and community leaders fixated on skin color."

Something along those vague lines was percolating in the thoughts of Najee Ali. He could not put his finger on it when he became a spokesman demanding justice for Sherrice Iverson. But he found himself refusing entreaties from black leaders to use face time on TV to say her rape and murder was about race. He sloughed off his ingrained, pro-black haze and became what I'd instead call pro-children or maybe pro-community. "What happens is you become so caught up in black pride that your wisdom and intellect is just clouded on racial issues," Ali told me the other day. "You literally cannot see a positive contribution that another race can bring to the situation."

As The Finger already explained ("Troubled Waters," June 28), Ali was supporting former assembly speaker Antonio Villaraigosa for mayor over then-city attorney James Hahn. Jimmy was the choice of the BOG, who revered his late father, County Supervisor Kenny Hahn. The elder Hahn was a dedicated breaker of racial barriers who made waves even back in the 1950s and '60s, and much of the black support for James Hahn was clearly a repayment for all Kenny had done. "We young leaders refused to support Hahn based on this traditional loyalty: myself and Dominique DiPrima [a host on 100.3 The Beat radio], attorney Connie Rice, and others," says Ali. "And we were vilified for not following the drumbeat of the Black Old Guard."

"One day, Ali was tooling along in City Hall when he happened upon the press conference of the outraged black civic leaders decrying Riordan's "poverty pimp" comment. "Michelle DeArmond from the Associated Press asked me why I was not participating, so I said this was nothing but a ploy to attack Riordan for backing Antonio Villaraigosa," recalls Ali. "I told Michelle we do have some poverty pimps in the black community and some of them are up there at the podium, speaking right now." This comment raised the ire of Maxine Waters' son Ed, a mommy's boy who gets various jobs tossed to him by his powerful mother. Ed Waters started shouting at Ali to shut up. "I responded in such a way that Ed knew he would get the beat-down of his life if he didn't back off of me," Ali says.

When DeArmond wrote about this spectacle, it must have sent Waters right over the top, which isn't all that hard to do.

It's counterintuitive, but losing his column at LA Focus has given Ali a greater voice. When Ali and the Reverend Jesse Jackson a few weeks ago attended a Los Angeles Times editorial board meeting to discuss several issues facing the region, the very first question the editors had was about Ali's firing. Jackson's agenda had to take a momentary back seat.

Last week, Ali was asked to step into the divisive debate within city hall over the decision by city council president Alex Padilla not to appoint any of the three black council members to two influential committees dealing with economic development and housing. In a classic race-baiting drama, 300 angry black leaders and community members jammed Los Angeles City Council chambers to demand that black council members Mark Ridley-Thomas, Nate Holden and Jan Perry get the coveted committee assignments."

It is certain that it would be highly unlikely that any arm twisting, or otherwise would be needed to convince Najee Ali, Dominique DiPrima, and/or many other individuals, who also know that our own despot like elected Black leadership, and/or the Black middleclass who fit the description, are in fact treasonous, sleazy, spineless, despicable, incompetent, disgraceful, and/or unworthy of praise in any regard!


Sincerely,

Michael Lofton
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Well Lofton,

You use a lot of disparaging adjectives to show how you feel about black people....and that is your choice...but you are going to have to be more specific...and show where anything they are doing is unlike anything other groups are doing..think about it..this country is not truly a democracy...if it was, there would be governmental representation (house,senate, presidency) from all economic levels, not just the rich and connected..the sad part of it is.....you brothers hold black people fighting for crumbs more accountable than you hold white racists who got their advantage from this country's sordid history doing self-serving schit unchecked at the expense of black people..who are SUPPOSED to be equal citizens, correct?
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Well Lofton,

You use a lot of disparaging adjectives to show how you feel about black people....and that is your choice...but you are going to have to be more specific...and show where anything they are doing is unlike anything other groups are doing..think about it..this country is not truly a democracy...if it was, there would be governmental representation (house,senate, presidency) from all economic levels, not just the rich and connected..the sad part of it is.....you brothers hold black people fighting for crumbs more accountable than you hold white racists who got their advantage from this country's sordid history doing self-serving schit unchecked at the expense of black people..who are SUPPOSED to be equal citizens, correct?


......Same response which is, and their days are indeed numbered........

"What a delight to be able to write about Najee Ali, the pearl in question, and at the same time be able to continue pounding on the powers that be for their silly ideas and expansionist egos.

My friend Patt Morrison broke the story that Ali, director of the nonprofit community group Project Islamic Hope, had been fired from his columnist job at the monthly L.A. Focus allegedly because U.S. Congresswoman Maxine Waters didn't like him stirring controversy in the black community.

As has been widely reported, Waters, who is on the powerful House Committee on Banking and Financial Services, had called Jheryl Busby, a co-owner of Founders National Bank and chief operating officer at LA Focus, and imperiously demanded that Ali be fired.

As Ali tells it, Busby couldn't take the heat, called Ali, told him Waters was making life difficult, and fired him on the spot. Now Ali is suing Busby for firing him, and he is represented by respected civil rights attorney and KABC radio talk-show host Leo Terrell.

That's the back story. It's got drama and historic complexity. The main story, though, is that Najee Ali is part of a rising tide of young black leaders who simply will not play the race card. They want more for L.A. than a badly diseased worldview crafted by truly sick politicians, media and community leaders fixated on skin color."

Something along those vague lines was percolating in the thoughts of Najee Ali. He could not put his finger on it when he became a spokesman demanding justice for Sherrice Iverson. But he found himself refusing entreaties from black leaders to use face time on TV to say her rape and murder was about race. He sloughed off his ingrained, pro-black haze and became what I'd instead call pro-children or maybe pro-community. "What happens is you become so caught up in black pride that your wisdom and intellect is just clouded on racial issues," Ali told me the other day. "You literally cannot see a positive contribution that another race can bring to the situation."

As The Finger already explained ("Troubled Waters," June 28), Ali was supporting former assembly speaker Antonio Villaraigosa for mayor over then-city attorney James Hahn. Jimmy was the choice of the BOG, who revered his late father, County Supervisor Kenny Hahn. The elder Hahn was a dedicated breaker of racial barriers who made waves even back in the 1950s and '60s, and much of the black support for James Hahn was clearly a repayment for all Kenny had done. "We young leaders refused to support Hahn based on this traditional loyalty: myself and Dominique DiPrima [a host on 100.3 The Beat radio], attorney Connie Rice, and others," says Ali. "And we were vilified for not following the drumbeat of the Black Old Guard."

"One day, Ali was tooling along in City Hall when he happened upon the press conference of the outraged black civic leaders decrying Riordan's "poverty pimp" comment. "Michelle DeArmond from the Associated Press asked me why I was not participating, so I said this was nothing but a ploy to attack Riordan for backing Antonio Villaraigosa," recalls Ali. "I told Michelle we do have some poverty pimps in the black community and some of them are up there at the podium, speaking right now." This comment raised the ire of Maxine Waters' son Ed, a mommy's boy who gets various jobs tossed to him by his powerful mother. Ed Waters started shouting at Ali to shut up. "I responded in such a way that Ed knew he would get the beat-down of his life if he didn't back off of me," Ali says.

When DeArmond wrote about this spectacle, it must have sent Waters right over the top, which isn't all that hard to do.

It's counterintuitive, but losing his column at LA Focus has given Ali a greater voice. When Ali and the Reverend Jesse Jackson a few weeks ago attended a Los Angeles Times editorial board meeting to discuss several issues facing the region, the very first question the editors had was about Ali's firing. Jackson's agenda had to take a momentary back seat.

Last week, Ali was asked to step into the divisive debate within city hall over the decision by city council president Alex Padilla not to appoint any of the three black council members to two influential committees dealing with economic development and housing. In a classic race-baiting drama, 300 angry black leaders and community members jammed Los Angeles City Council chambers to demand that black council members Mark Ridley-Thomas, Nate Holden and Jan Perry get the coveted committee assignments."

It is certain that it would be highly unlikely that any arm twisting, or otherwise would be needed to convince Najee Ali, Dominique DiPrima, and/or many other individuals, who also know that our own despot like elected Black leadership, and/or the Black middleclass who fit the description, are in fact treasonous, sleazy, spineless, despicable, incompetent, disgraceful, and/or unworthy of praise in any regard!


Sincerely,

Michael Lofton
Your contempt for black leadership is not based on anything concrete other than YOUR perception of their performance. You are right though, if they are doing such a sorry azz job, they will be replaced by the voting public..black or otherwise....their political longevity has to be attributed to them being perceived as doing SOMETHING right.....because the black vote alone did not get them into office....and will not keep them there.......but if they are replaced...maybe you'll see that black leadership is no different than any other.......good comes with bad.....but maybe your dream of bush or some other non-black improving your situation and your community will happen and you can continue to live along the basis of your non-specific castigation of black people.....that is going to be you for life Lofton, so there is no sense in me getting in the way and trying to convince you to see things different....I have my own goals to attend to........
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Your contempt for black leadership is not based on anything concrete other than YOUR perception of their performance. You are right though, if they are doing such a sorry azz job, they will be replaced by the voting public..black or otherwise....their political longevity has to be attributed to them being perceived as doing SOMETHING right.....because the black vote alone did not get them into office....and will not keep them there.......but if they are replaced...maybe you'll see that black leadership is no different than any other.......good comes with bad.....but maybe your dream of bush or some other non-black improving your situation and your community will happen and you can continue to live along the basis of your non-specific castigation of black people.....that is going to be you for life Lofton, so there is no sense in me getting in the way and trying to convince you to see things different....I have my own goals to attend to........


....the same response which is....


.....It is certain that I'm not alone in this assessment, because this information unlike the lipservice of a Kevin41 is based on fact and not fiction.

"What a delight to be able to write about Najee Ali, the pearl in question, and at the same time be able to continue pounding on the powers that be for their silly ideas and expansionist egos.

My friend Patt Morrison broke the story that Ali, director of the nonprofit community group Project Islamic Hope, had been fired from his columnist job at the monthly L.A. Focus allegedly because U.S. Congresswoman Maxine Waters didn't like him stirring controversy in the black community.

As has been widely reported, Waters, who is on the powerful House Committee on Banking and Financial Services, had called Jheryl Busby, a co-owner of Founders National Bank and chief operating officer at LA Focus, and imperiously demanded that Ali be fired.

As Ali tells it, Busby couldn't take the heat, called Ali, told him Waters was making life difficult, and fired him on the spot. Now Ali is suing Busby for firing him, and he is represented by respected civil rights attorney and KABC radio talk-show host Leo Terrell.

That's the back story. It's got drama and historic complexity. The main story, though, is that Najee Ali is part of a rising tide of young black leaders who simply will not play the race card. They want more for L.A. than a badly diseased worldview crafted by truly sick politicians, media and community leaders fixated on skin color."

Something along those vague lines was percolating in the thoughts of Najee Ali. He could not put his finger on it when he became a spokesman demanding justice for Sherrice Iverson. But he found himself refusing entreaties from black leaders to use face time on TV to say her rape and murder was about race. He sloughed off his ingrained, pro-black haze and became what I'd instead call pro-children or maybe pro-community. "What happens is you become so caught up in black pride that your wisdom and intellect is just clouded on racial issues," Ali told me the other day. "You literally cannot see a positive contribution that another race can bring to the situation."

As The Finger already explained ("Troubled Waters," June 28), Ali was supporting former assembly speaker Antonio Villaraigosa for mayor over then-city attorney James Hahn. Jimmy was the choice of the BOG, who revered his late father, County Supervisor Kenny Hahn. The elder Hahn was a dedicated breaker of racial barriers who made waves even back in the 1950s and '60s, and much of the black support for James Hahn was clearly a repayment for all Kenny had done. "We young leaders refused to support Hahn based on this traditional loyalty: myself and Dominique DiPrima [a host on 100.3 The Beat radio], attorney Connie Rice, and others," says Ali. "And we were vilified for not following the drumbeat of the Black Old Guard."

"One day, Ali was tooling along in City Hall when he happened upon the press conference of the outraged black civic leaders decrying Riordan's "poverty pimp" comment. "Michelle DeArmond from the Associated Press asked me why I was not participating, so I said this was nothing but a ploy to attack Riordan for backing Antonio Villaraigosa," recalls Ali. "I told Michelle we do have some poverty pimps in the black community and some of them are up there at the podium, speaking right now." This comment raised the ire of Maxine Waters' son Ed, a mommy's boy who gets various jobs tossed to him by his powerful mother. Ed Waters started shouting at Ali to shut up. "I responded in such a way that Ed knew he would get the beat-down of his life if he didn't back off of me," Ali says.

When DeArmond wrote about this spectacle, it must have sent Waters right over the top, which isn't all that hard to do.

It's counterintuitive, but losing his column at LA Focus has given Ali a greater voice. When Ali and the Reverend Jesse Jackson a few weeks ago attended a Los Angeles Times editorial board meeting to discuss several issues facing the region, the very first question the editors had was about Ali's firing. Jackson's agenda had to take a momentary back seat.

Last week, Ali was asked to step into the divisive debate within city hall over the decision by city council president Alex Padilla not to appoint any of the three black council members to two influential committees dealing with economic development and housing. In a classic race-baiting drama, 300 angry black leaders and community members jammed Los Angeles City Council chambers to demand that black council members Mark Ridley-Thomas, Nate Holden and Jan Perry get the coveted committee assignments."

It is certain that it would be highly unlikely that any arm twisting, or otherwise would be needed to convince Najee Ali, Dominique DiPrima, and/or many other individuals, who also know that our own despot like elected Black leadership, and/or the Black middleclass who fit the description, are in fact treasonous, sleazy, spineless, despicable, incompetent, disgraceful, and/or unworthy of praise in any regard!


Sincerely,

Michael Lofton
How Our Own No Good Elected Black Leaders, Poverty Pimps, etc., Exploit the Black Community!

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Originally posted by Kevin41:
Your contempt for black leadership is not based on anything concrete other than YOUR perception of their performance. You are right though, if they are doing such a sorry azz job, they will be replaced by the voting public..black or otherwise....their political longevity has to be attributed to them being perceived as doing SOMETHING right.....because the black vote alone did not get them into office....and will not keep them there.......but if they are replaced...maybe you'll see that black leadership is no different than any other.......good comes with bad.....but maybe your dream of bush or some other non-black improving your situation and your community will happen and you can continue to live along the basis of your non-specific castigation of black people.....that is going to be you for life Lofton, so there is no sense in me getting in the way and trying to convince you to see things different....I have my own goals to attend to........


"Taking a stand for what is right has put me at odds with the civil-rights establishment. I have endured all kinds of name-calling and intimidation tactics ... But I understand that I am fighting against evil. Those names mean nothing to me. They are the pitiful words of cowards who do not have right on their side. By letting them pass, I am able to continue standing up for what is right ... It is now time for white Americans to realize they are part of the same battle."

"Scam: How the Black Leadership Exploits Black America," Rev. Jesse Lee Peterson; Pg. 87

One of the first series of questions I am most often asked is: "Where are you from? Where did you grow up? Where were you raised?" As if my answering those questions will somehow answer the unasked question – that being, "How can you, a black man, think the way you do?"

And just how do I think?

I think a man deserves what he earns. I think and believe that while the field of opportunity is level (contrary to popular myth), not all will achieve the same.

I think that the hate-filled cretin from Rhode Island who wrote me spewing bile and venom is a racist who happens to be white. And I'm certain he is not the only one. But I am also aware that there are Louis Farrakhans and Cynthia McKinney's.

I think slavery was wrong and immoral, but it was not illegal. I agree in principle with Robert E. Lee, who in a letter to his wife Mary Custis Lee, called slavery "a moral and political evil," while concluding that black slaves were immeasurably better off here than in Africa, morally, socially and physically. Except, I believe it was God Himself providing for a people who would later curse His name and praise the false god of the very people who originally enslaved them.

I think the reparationists must be challenged to acknowledge the truth – that being "that ... free blacks disproportionately became slave masters" right here in America ("Dixie's censored subject – black slaveowners" by Robert M. Grooms).

Antoinette Harrell-Miller, a claimant in the multi-billion dollar action against Lloyd's of London is quoted as saying, "Like every other ethnic group living in America, I have a right to know who I am." Not to be rude or deliberately acerbic, but I would say, "She is Antoinette Miller, a race huckster and profiteer." But I digress.

I find it interesting that these hate-filled extortionists claim "Lloyd's of London and others must repair the damage they caused." Interesting because they leave out African and Muslim accountability. They omit the truth of black participation in the Civil War. Scott K. Williams in his "Black Confederates Fact Page" writes that 65,000 plus Southern blacks fought in the Confederate ranks. He also writes that they were compensated for their efforts in land and money, some blacks earning more than officers.

I challenge these necrophagous ghouls who seek to make gain through immiseration to tell the truth. How many Americans are aware that in New Orleans over 3,000 freed slaves owned slaves? The fact is large numbers of free Negroes owned black slaves.

How many are aware successful businessman and cotton farmer William Ellison derived a major source of his income from being a "slave breeder" – a practice that was looked down upon throughout the South? Yet Ellison, a successful black businessman and slaveowner, secretly practiced it.

It would seem reasonable that if the reparation harlots were interested in truth, they would have these facts available as part of their suit. It is easy to bastardize and label as evil whites. But where is the vilification of the thousands of blacks who also practiced slavery?

The liberal media is quick to point to race-baiters as leaders in the black community. Therein I believe lies a major part of the problem: The black community is not a community unto itself, it is part of America.

Blacks do not need leaders defined by the media. They have them. At present they are President Bush and his administration. They have 535 total representatives being divided as prescribed state by state as do we all. They have governors and lobbyists, as do we all.

I think it is time for Americans who happen to be black to divest themselves of the "African hyphen American" foolishness. In truth, blacks today are no more African than I am mezzo-soprano. Teresa Heinz-Kerry is more authentic African-American than Jesse Jackson, she having been born in Mozambique.

I'll take the petty name-calling, because I am right. And it will only be when all of America realizes the truth of this that we will truly have a "United" States.

Mychal Massie is a nationally recognized political activist, pundit and columnist. He is host of the widely popular talk show "Straight Talk." He has appeared on the Fox News Channel, CNN, MSNBC, NBC, Comcast Cable and talk radio programming nationwide. He is a former self-employed business owner of over 30 years and a member of the conservative public policy institute National Center for Public Policy Research-Project 21." by Mychal Massie


......supporting and defending sleaze, and misfits is closer to the reality of it, to which more so than any racism on the part of Caucasians, Black people are sending themselves to the gallows.

Sincerely,

Michael Lofton
i'll be glad when I hear of something tangible that black leadership supposedly does different from others...but hey when a negro hates himself and his kind...don't ever expect a fair comparison between black folks and others....they get a pass and receive nothing but silence and obedience for their actions...while black people get castigated as if the actions are exclusive to black people only.....
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Originally posted by Kevin41:
i'll be glad when I hear of something tangible that black leadership supposedly does different from others...but hey when a negro hates himself and his kind...don't ever expect a fair comparison between black folks and others....they get a pass and receive nothing but silence and obedience for their actions...while black people get castigated as if the actions are exclusive to black people only.....


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....a thread designed solely to Bash Bush started by ricardomath!

ricardomath's Contribution!

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...well Kevin41, the numbers of individuals who see reality for what it is, is on the rise, to which very soon the voices of dissenters, race card players, spreading misinformation, etc., etc., in any Kevin41 are on the decline!

It is much more important to listen to someone who is truly on the level, rather than spending any time listening to, following in the footsteps of, playing the race card, and/or promoting useless unwarranted continuous "Bush Bashing" worthless diatribe....

......such as what can be easily seen in the material being circulated by a Kevin41, a ricardomath, any other race card player, other "Bush Bashers", any set of sleazy poverty pimps, sleazy individuals, and/or following in the foot steps of those who praise them.

It is virtually impossible to compete in a highly competitive environment and in the same breath respect, follow, or listen to advise that is essentially nonsense!


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...and the minds of Najee Ali, Dominique DiPrima, former host on 100.3 The Beat radio, and/or many other Black adults are changing as well, in that playing the race card as justification for unwarranted condemnation of others, will soon be a thing of the pass!

Najee Ali, Dominique DiPrima, former host on 100.3 The Beat radio, and/or many other young Black people are not falling for the hype, the garbage, the nonsense, of continuously playing the "race card", following any cab of "Bush Bashing", each being worthless responses, which have yet to deliver prosperity of any form to the Black community!

...and these individuals also know who is truly telling the truth, and who truly is selling out the Black community. Mind you, their valid assessment of the reality of it did not originate from a Michael Lofton, but rather they too have witnessed the sleaze, the greed, the game playing, etc., etc., that typically is associated with our own inept leadership first hand! Those truly inept, sleazy, treasonous, irresponsible, worthless individuals, and/or those who praise them, who fit the description, are castigating themselves all by themselves!


Sincerely,

Michael Lofton
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the youth of today will reach middle age and by then they will really see who was telling them the truth and who sold their souls to massa......it all comes to fruition so i'm not worried...just like white people coming to their senses about this fool in office...they are like house negroes...they love abuse and subjugation........
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Originally posted by Kevin41:
the youth of today will reach middle age and by then they will really see who was telling them the truth and who sold their souls to massa......it all comes to fruition so i'm not worried...just like white people coming to their senses about this fool in office...they are like house negroes...they love abuse and subjugation........


...the youth do not have to wait until they reach middle age, because they have formulated a valid judgment about what is seen today in their own immediate community, a set of atrocities perpetrated by Black people who look like them and these are very serious atrocities, or acts of treason, that are not the fault of the Bush Administration, racist Caucasians, Condoleeza Rice, Ward Connerly, Larry Elder, President George Bush, etc., etc.
jesse lee peterson...a negro who can even quote something as horrible as how slavery had black people better off....proves that he has the white man's dick in his mouth....and Lofton's ability to agree with that lends itself to make one believe he probably is not black at all.....but i'm kool...i'm going to have to leave house niggas and racist inbreds both alone...because they'll get theirs....they always do.......

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