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I suggest you look at the situation in the community now, believe me i know what it was like back then, my mother and father have told me, my grandparents have told me. I pass former slave plantations everyday. But my question is, where are we now. Who said not to fight for your rights here? I said how are we gonna fight a system of white supremacy from inside the bell of the beast when we virtually have no power? no one has answered it yet, but instead they again ask me what I would do. I have said many many times there can be a mulit pronged approach. Those assimilationist who want to intergrate and believe white people will some how change and do the right thing, keep pleading and scratching for that. But dont downplay those nationalist and panafricanist who want to also have a nation or be a part of a nation that run by people like themselves instead eating everything europeans feed us. We do no make policy in the US we are victims of policy. Until we have the power to influnce the political, economic and social process we have to try anything that works. So to simply ask questions without giving any answers i think is using the scapegoat tactic. I say again like ive always said you have two types of black people fighting for the influence over the black community. Those assimilationist who only want to be accepted by the US, believe in their policies and laws and you have the Nationalist who want to have their own land ,flag and system of governance that takes into consideration our culture and our history, not simply buy into a eurocentric ideology of how the world is suppose to be run.
Point taken, Zakar. I'll share my opinions, keeping in mind that they are just my feelings and observations and not neccessary fact.

You ask what gains we've made since the 13th, 14th, and 15th amendments....

Education: I am a black student attending the University of Alabama. There are literally thousands of other black students attending this institution with me. Do you think the students who had to confront gangs and George Wallace in the 60s would consider our current situation a step backward? As underwhelming as it may be, there has been progress in education across the country.

Political Power: Congressman Artur Davis of Alabama, Harold Ford, Jr. in Tennessee, Mayor Shirley Franklin of Alanta, Kwame Kilpatrick in Detriot amoung others would probably agree with you that we still have a long way to go politically, but their very prescence speaks to progress and the hope of greater involvement in the political system. Personally, I think Barack Obama will end up being one of the most influencial politicans of our time.

Economics: In 2002, we had over 600 billion in earned income...that's a lot of buying power. While we haven't harnessed that buying power to develop our communities, it is out there. Malcolm X said that, and I paraphrase, black nationalism, as it pertains to economics, means putting money into our own communties. Our clothing lines, our movie theaters, our businesses. Before we complain about our economic power, I think we should evaluate how we spend our "All-Mighty Dollar". The Man didn't make me buy my last CD from Best Buy or use a predominately white real estate agency.

Again, Zakar, I share the same anguish you do when I think about how underwhelming our achievements have been, however, I think more of the blame falls on us that we often acknowledge.

We have greater access to educational opportunities than did our parents. We have greater buying power and have the grassroots numbers to organize and politically mobilize our communities.

Those are a few of my opinions.
I understand your point, but I have to disagree with the fact that since a few more blacks are allowed to go to white universities, a few run corporations and a few are mulit millionaires. but this small amount of progress for so few really doesnt change the situation of the masses. In fact most who have the educational and economic means to make a difference leave the community taking with the the vital resources out of the community. yea we generate all these billion, but when you break it down with the wealthy who leave the community and the working poor never make enough to make ends meet the situation starts to sober. I mean why is it our community goes bankrupt every 24 hours. Here is an example of why I say things really havent improved for black people as a whole.

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