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 @ Brotha RR I didn't realize you were talking about last night's speech. My bad.  Sorry.  I just posted the response of her speech on another thread but nevertheless....ain't that a bitch?  She ain't got enough words in her head of hers to complete a sentence.  How pitiful and proof that rich men traditionally marry brainless models as in this case. But!

 Just because someone has money doesn't mean for a second there are brains included. This asshole's rich because of his FATHER. The Fucker's German. When I was born Hitler was still alive and cooking Jews. In the 40's it was the Jews, with this ugly Asshole, it could be US!!!!!!! Fuck Trump and his IMMIGRANT wife. If the CIA comes after me, so be it. I can only die once. Closer to it right now, than I can even think about.

I'm taking a Rain Check AGAINST all these WINDBAGS now. Once they get this shit all settled, there'll be some war conjured up somewhere and they're going to be sending sons and DAUGHTERS to fight the sucker. In this country, like Israel, women won't just bring life, they'll be ending them too with guns along with the fucking abortion doctors in this country.

No one can just LIVE ANYMORE, ANYWHERE. Right now, there's a baby born to live his life and there's another being born simultaneously that's going to end his life. Both of them just little innocent mofos at the moment.

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Kocolicious posted:

 @ Brotha RR I didn't realize you were talking about last night's speech. My bad.  Sorry.  I just posted the response of her speech on another thread but nevertheless....ain't that a bitch?  She ain't got enough words in her head of hers to complete a sentence.  How pitiful and proof that rich men traditionally marry brainless models as in this case. But!

Looks more like a "set-up" to me, I mean, you know she didn't actually write her own speech; you know what I mean?

sunnubian posted:
Kocolicious posted:

 @ Brotha RR I didn't realize you were talking about last night's speech. My bad.  Sorry.  I just posted the response of her speech on another thread but nevertheless....ain't that a bitch?  She ain't got enough words in her head of hers to complete a sentence.  How pitiful and proof that rich men traditionally marry brainless models as in this case. But!

Looks more like a "set-up" to me, I mean, you know she didn't actually write her own speech; you know what I mean?


It's like 'whoever' wrote (or should I say gave her) the speech, knew trump & company wouldn't notice until it was too late (with their ignorant asses).

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Trump Campaign Uses Every Excuse In The Book To Explain Melania’s Plagiarism

Was it Hillary Clinton’s fault? Was it Melania’s fault? Was there no plagiarism? Yes.

07/19/2016 11:26 am 11:26:50 | Updated 32 minutes ago

CLEVELAND ― The mess that is Donald Trump’s campaign came into full view Monday night when Melania Trump stepped onstage at the GOP convention and delivered the biggest speech of her life ― that ended up being partially plagiarized from first lady Michelle Obama

The embarrassing misstep has completely dominated media attention Tuesday, overshadowing what the campaign hoped would be a triumphant moment for the Trump family. And campaign officials and supporters have made the situation worse, offering a slew of conflicting explanations for what happened.

Their reasons include:

There’s no plagiarism. Campaign Manager Paul Manafort has publicly denied that the relevant portions of the two speeches are the same ― despite the fact that when played side-by-side, they’re nearly identical. “There’s no cribbing of Michelle Obama’s speech. These were common words and values. She cares about her family,” Manafort said on CNN Tuesday morning. “To think that she’d be cribbing Michelle Obama’s words is crazy.”

It was Melania’s fault. MSNBC’s “Morning Joe” reported that officials close to Manafort have thrown Melania under the bus. “We have three different reporters that have come back saying that Manafort, or those close to Manafort, are claiming that Melania Trump is the one that added Michelle Obama’s words to the speech.”

It was Hillary’s fault. “Once again, this is an example of when a woman threatens Hillary Clinton, she seeks to demean her and take her down,” Manafort told CNN Tuesday morning.

English isn’t Melania’s first language. Former Trump aide Corey Lewandowski reminded CNN viewers Tuesday that Melania is not a native English speaker. “Remember, Melania Trump speaks four languages, unbelievably intelligent. This is not her native language,” he said. “She relied on other people to make sure the speech was right, and it went through the process which all convention speeches do.”

Michelle Obama didn’t invent the English language. Trump spokeswoman Katrina Pierson also rejected the idea that there was plagiarism, telling The Hill, “These are values ― Republican values, by the way ― of hard work, determination, family values, dedication and respect, and that’s Melania Trump. This concept that Michelle Obama invented the English language is absurd.”

Melania wanted to communicate with words people would know. Pierson told Sky News Melania “wanted to communicate to Americans in phrases they have heard before.”

It doesn’t matter because most of the speech was original. New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie (R-N.J.) brushed aside the plagiarism because the entire speech wasn’t plagiarized. “Ninety-three percent of the speech is completely different from Michelle Obama’s speech,” Christie told the “Today” show. “They expressed some common thoughts.” 

It was a compliment. Rep. Joe Wilson (R-S.C.) told The Huffington Post Tuesday that the first lady should be flattered: “My view is, to quote other first ladies, or potential first ladies, that is positive. Even unattributed. Hey, it was meant as a compliment.”

It was just an accident because the writers weren’t organized. Alex Castellanos, a strategist for a pro-Trump super PAC, said it’s hard to stay organized when writing a speech, and there were likely some notes left sitting around that were included in error. 

#4 Notes left laying around. Two or three days pass and no one remembers where the notes came from. @realDonaldTrump


#5 Next thing u know, notes are in speech. should have been scrubbed but trump campaign has been run awful lean.@realDonaldTrump


This was all part of an elaborate plan by the campaign. Former Mississippi Gov. Haley Barbour (R) wondered on CNN Tuesday whether the Trump campaign actually planned the plagiarism and the controversy to bring more attention to its message. “What was interesting to me is, did the campaign intend for this? Because everything that Melania Trump said that Barack Obama’s wife had said are things that she said Barack Obama would do and he didn’t do,” Barbour said. 

   Here's more of them trying to clean this up.

How Melania Trump’s Speech Veered Off Course and Caused an Uproar

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Melania Trump walking onstage to deliver her speech on the opening night of the Republican National Convention in Cleveland on Monday. Credit Damon Winter/The New York Times

CLEVELAND — It was the biggest speech of Melania Trump’s life, and her husband, Donald, wanted it to be perfect.

The Trump campaign turned to two high-powered speechwriters, who had helped write signature political oratory like George W. Bush’s speech to the nation on Sept. 11, 2001, to introduce Ms. Trump, a Slovenian-born former model, to the nation on the opening night of the Republican National Convention.

It did not go as planned, and it has eclipsed much of the action at the party gathering in Cleveland, where delegates on Tuesday night formally nominated Mr. Trump for president.

The speechwriters, Matthew Scully and John McConnell, sent Ms. Trump a draft last month, eager for her approval.

Weeks went by. They heard nothing.

Inside Trump Tower, it turned out, Ms. Trump had decided she was uncomfortable with the text, and began tearing it apart, leaving a small fraction of the original.

Her quiet plan to wrest the speech away and make it her own set in motion the most embarrassing moment of the convention: word-for-word repetition of phrases and borrowed themes from Michelle Obama’s speech at the Democratic convention eight years ago.

The ridicule from both Democrats and Republicans was instant and relentless, disrupting what was meant to be a high point of the convention.

It was, by all accounts, an entirely preventable blunder, committed in front of an audience of 23 million television viewers, that exposed the weaknesses of an organization that has long spurned the safeguards of a modern presidential campaign, such as the free software that detects plagiarism.

“It just shouldn’t have happened,” said Matt Latimer, a White House speechwriter for President George W. Bush. “This was an easy home run speech: a successful, attractive immigrant talking about her husband.”

Nobody seemed more startled than Mr. and Ms. Trump, who arrived in New York on Tuesday morning after a flight from Cleveland to find themselves at the center of a bizarre uproar over authenticity, plagiarism and a knotty question: Why did the wife of the Republican nominee borrow passages from the wife of the current Democratic president?

Ms. Trump spent most of Tuesday out of sight, while her husband vented his frustration and anger throughout the day.

This account of how a speech written by professionals was transformed into the problematic version delivered on Monday night at the Quicken Loans Arena is based on interviews with more than a dozen people involved in and close to the Trump campaign. Many of them spoke on the condition of anonymity to disclose details that were supposed to remain confidential.

It reinforces dominant themes of Mr. Trump’s campaign that still linger from the primary, which his team has struggled to change: a deliberately bare-bones campaign structure, a slapdash style and a reliance on the instincts of the candidate over the judgments of experienced political experts, like Mr. Scully and Mr. McConnell.

The two original speechwriters were not aware of how significantly the speech had been changed until they saw Ms. Trump deliver it on television Monday night, along with the rest of the country.

In the prime-time address, Ms. Trump unfurled a sequence of life lessons — about how “your word is your bond,” about “your dreams and your willingness to work for them,” and the “integrity, passion and intelligence” of her parents — in the same sequence and using much of the same language that Mrs. Obama employed in 2008.

Just like Mrs. Obama, Ms. Trump explained how she wanted to pass those lessons on to her children and the children of the world. And just like Mrs. Obama, she offered a gauzy invocation about the limitlessness of aspirations when they are matched by determination.

In a series of evolving explanations, Trump aides and allies dismissed the episode as a trivial distraction, alternating between outright denial that Ms. Trump’s speech had used word-for-word phrases from Mrs. Obama and blaming the news media.

“Ninety-three percent of the speech is completely different,” declared Gov. Chris Christie of New Jersey. Paul Manafort, Mr. Trump’s campaign chairman, pegged the number of suspicious words at 50. “And that includes ‘ands’ and ‘thes’ and things like that,” he said on Tuesday.

Across the country, slack-jawed Republican political operatives and speechwriters expressed expletive-laden bewilderment at the organizational breakdown allowing such an episode to occur.

“It’s like some guy trying to paddle across a river in a rowboat who shoots a hole in his boat,” said Stuart Stevens, who wrote speeches for Mitt Romney and his wife, Ann, throughout the 2012 campaign.

In interviews, alarmed Republican speechwriters outlined the layers of formal scrutiny, apparently disregarded by the Trump campaign, traditionally applied to almost every draft of a major convention address. They described word-by-word fact-checking by a dedicated team of experts and computer software designed to catch plagiarism. Several online programs, like DupliChecker, are available at no cost.

“It’s pretty standard,” Mr. Stevens said of the software, which detects overlap in word choice and sentence structure. “We used it.”

An urgent priority: avoiding the slightest hint of oratorical theft.

“The most cardinal rule of any speech-writing operation is that you cannot plagiarize,” said Mr. Latimer, the Bush speechwriter, who is now a partner at Javelin, a communications firm. If you do, he said, “you lose your job.”

That is unlikely to happen in the Trump campaign, which revolves around a freewheeling candidate with a fierce resistance to admitting error.

It was Jared Kushner, Mr. Trump’s son-in-law and top adviser, who commissioned the speech from Mr. Scully and Mr. McConnell — and praised their draft. But Ms. Trump decided to revise it, and at one point she turned to a trusted hand: Meredith McIver, a New York City-based former ballet dancer and English major who has worked on some of Mr. Trump’s books, including “Think Like a Billionaire.” It was not clear how much of a hand Ms. McIver had in the final product, and she did not respond to an email on Tuesday.

Research for the speech, it seems, drew them to the previous convention speeches delivered by candidates’ spouses.

The Trump campaign declined to say who or how many senior campaign officials read or reviewed the speech. But when Ms. Trump and her staff had finished revising the speech, virtually all that remained from the original was an introduction and a passage that included the phrase “a national campaign like no other.”

The controversy set off by the stumble spread rapidly from the political class to average Americans: African-Americans were angry that Ms. Trump had chosen to swipe the words of the country’s first African-American first lady, especially given Mr. Trump’s hostility to President Obama. Scores of Twitter users, deploying the hashtag #famousMelaniaTrumpQuotes, began to re-attribute famous lines, like the Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.’s “I have a dream,” to Ms. Trump.

But the mischievous teasing at times turned serious, as blacks invoked a painful history of prominent white figures stealing the work of black artists and presenting it as their own. “I’m not surprised Melanie plagiarized from Michelle,” wrote Yasmin Yonis. “White women have spent centuries stealing black women’s genius, labor, babies, bodies.”

To many Republicans, the lapse seemed frustratingly inevitable from a candidate who has not just eschewed the backstops of a major political campaign — he has mocked them as a waste of money. His campaign slogans, “America First” and “Make America Great Again,” echoed Pat Buchanan and Ronald Reagan. His social media graphics were crowdsourced on Twitter and Reddit by an aide who formerly managed Mr. Trump’s golf club in Westchester.

The mistakes have piled up. Last summer, Mr. Trump posted on Twitter his portrait superimposed over a picture of the White House and what turned out to be a stock image of Waffen-SS troops from World War II.

But this one stung, in part because everybody was watching.

Jon Favreau, a former chief speechwriter to President Obama, was home on his couch half-following Ms. Trump’s speech on TV while catching up on work Monday night. At first, he was skeptical of the criticism.

“Everyone says, ‘You work hard,’” Mr. Favreau said, reciting a line from the speech. “Political speeches are filled with clichés that are impossible to avoid.” But when he got to Ms. Trump saying, “Your word is your bond,” Mr. Favreau recalled, he stopped short.

“I remember Michelle saying, ‘Your word is your bond,’ and thinking I’ve never heard of someone saying that in politics,” Mr. Favreau said. “That was when I knew it might have been copied.”


 First Lady Michelle Obama, you were a pretty little girl and you're pretty still. 

All you folks watching this mess may the Good Lord bless you all. I've never watched Empire, Scandal, Housewives of Everywhere, the Kardashians and I'm damn sure not going to watch Donald Trump or Hillary. I'll just catch glimpses of whomever becomes FOREVER WRINKLED and IN CHARGE of the White's House.

I just hope Earth can continue rotating on it's axis and lives can continue upon the Planet in a happier way. May the Syrian people find solace somewhere and all the rest of the folks suffering to no avail!!!!!!!

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