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I am doing a little research on Black Democrats and Black Republicans. My Question:

Which Party has appointed more African Americans to major roles in the government? And who are those officials?

Democrats- Earl Richardson

Republicans- Condoleeza Rice, Collin Powell, Clarence Thomas....

Please share your wisdom. If you have a good site with more info on this please forward it.
Roooooo "Do not look at things and wonder WHY, but DREAM new ideas and say WHY NOT...."
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The question that you ask in the thread title is different from the question that you are "researching."

At any rate, the answer to the thread question is neither party has put us in power.

I don't know which party has appointed more Black folk to "major roles", but I would imagine the republican party, and more specifically, this Bush administration.

But so what? The answer remains that neither party has put us into a position of power; only positions of responsibility for carrying out their agenda. Which, in case you haven't noticed, in the case of the democratic agenda, sometimes, and in the case of the republican agenda, most of the time, runs contrary to the interests of Black folk.

While I respect Condoleeza Rice, Collin Powell, Clarence Thomas, et al., let me paraphrase an eternal question: What profit a man or his people should he gain the world and lose his soul?

Oh, and BTW, your veil is pretty thin. nono
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While I respect Condoleeza Rice, Collin Powell, Clarence Thomas, et al., let me paraphrase an eternal question: What profit a man or his people should he gain the world and lose his soul?

Oh, and BTW, your veil is pretty thin. nono


Thanks, Kweli4Real! I like that quote, I think it is from Bob Marley. I agree that neither party put us in a position of 'power'. Although those nominated officails were put into their respective roles to carry out an agenda, they were qualified. One question, What are the interests of Black folk? (Mine may be different from yours)

PAce Tua, I am new so I am not sure. I found that website and I was wondering how legit it was. I knew a blog like this would be able to give me some insight.

Thanks
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Originally posted by Pace Tua:
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Originally posted by Kweli4Real:

Oh, and BTW, your veil is pretty thin. nono

No doubt.

Omega, do you know how many people have come here and posted that same web site? Different pretext, same reason.

I still can't figure out how they are claiming the folks on the front page are all Black Republicans. Heck, Richard Allen died a couple of decades before the modern Republican Party even existed. Roll Eyes
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Thanks, Kweli4Real! I like that quote, I think it is from Bob Marley.

No, Omega, I think the original of the quote I paraphrased was said a little before Bob's time. Oh, I get it ... You were joshin'. lol Right? Confused

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Although those nominated officails were put into their respective roles to carry out an agenda, they were qualified.


Their [our] qualifications have never been in question. But again: What profit a man or his people should he gain the world [i.e., power/position/authority] and lose his soul [i.e., be put in charge of promoting policies that work against his interests, and those of his community]?

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One question, What are the interests of Black folk? (Mine may be different from yours)


No doubt Black folks' interests are far from monolithic, so your individual interests may be quite different from my individual interests. But I think that Black folk, as a group, have interests that are separate and apart from white folk. And, that serving those communal interests, even when we are not directly impacted by them, lifts us all. For example, because we still are subject to the vestiages of slavery, we have an interest that anti-discrimination laws be enforced. Because so many of our youth attend public schools, we have an interest that our tax dollars be INVESTED in, not DISVESTED of, the public school system. Because so many of us live in urban settings, we have an interest that environmental laws be enforced. Because so many of us have median incomes and net worths that are far below that of white folk [as a group], we have an interest in bottom up, rather than the failed pissed on, er, "trickle down" economics.

So, frankly, I don't care the color of the person promoting policies that do not serve the interests of our [my] community.

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I found that website and I was wondering how legit it was.


Well ... let me ask you a question: Can something be legit, while promoting half-truths or out-right lies?

As Kresge commented on "how they are claiming the folks on the front page are all Black Republicans" when many the "modern republican party" bears no resemblance to that of the pre-civil rights era republican party.

Frederick Douglas was a republican; Bull Conner was a democrat.
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Originally posted by Omega4ul:

PAce Tua, I am new so I am not sure. I found that website and I was wondering how legit it was. I knew a blog like this would be able to give me some insight.

Thanks


Omega,

I think Kweli about covered it, especially "Can something be legit, while promoting half-truths or out-right lies?" BTW, this is not a "blog", but a top-leval internet web site. You know, like com, org, gov, etc.

About three or four months ago, I forget all the details, someone posted that link here, or maybe it was a member who found the link, I forget. Anyway, a lengthy, somewhat outraged debate ensued over the justification for claiming many of these Black Americans as "Rebublicans".

Actually, thinking back, I think it was Nmaginate who found the site.

So, I don't know how legit you are about your "research". Only time will tell.
REPRINT:

And These Are Your BLACK REPUBLICANS

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Originally posted by Nmaginate:
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Washington, D.C. -August 10, 2005 – A group of African American Republican activists, and their supporters from around the country, will announce the formation of a national grassroots organization...

"The creation of the National Black Republican Association is the product of the dreams and efforts of scores of black Republicans across the nation," said interim Chairperson Frances Rice, co-founder of a black Republican group in Sarasota, Florida. "Black grassroots activists have always been involved locally and nationally within the Republican Party, but there was always agreement that we needed a national organization to represent the interests of Republicans in the black community. We also needed an organization that will effectively counter the disinformation concerning Republicans..."

http://www.nbra.info/press_release_2.htm


Okay, let's get some real, honest explanations for this:

Click on BLACK GOP and you get these luminaries listed under the banner of "Celebrating Black Republicans"

Yes, that's right.

  • Martin Luther King Jr. = BLACK REPUBLICAN
  • Carter G. Woodson = BLACK REPUBLICAN
  • Frederick Douglass = BLACK REPUBLICAN
  • Mary McCleod Bethune = BLACK REPUBLICAN
  • Harriet Tubman = BLACK REPUBLICAN
  • Ida B. Wells = BLACK REPUBLICAN
  • Sojourner Truth = BLACK REPUBLICAN
  • A. Philip Randolph = BLACK REPUBLICAN
... Talk about MISINFORMATION!! "WE'RE" going to need a TRUTH & RECONCILATION organization just for this one. I mean... I've heard the typical Booker T. Washington claims and even Frederick Douglass... but DAMN!! MLK???
Are they serious? sck

Sad.... just sad....
You have to remember we never really became Dems fully until the major civil rights bills of the 60s passed until then we sided with the Republicans because they were the party that freed us via Lincoln.

Remember the Southern Dems were the ones busting heads trying to keep us from voting during that time period and they only switched because they felt the Kennedy's double crossed the Dems.
Kweli4Real- Thanks for the knowledge, I really appreciate it. I see why you are The Master of the Universe. Did you know of any sites that I could reference about this topic?? I was not joshin' about your quote. Your quote made me think of a quote by Bob Marley......
"Don't gain the world and lose your soul, wisdom is better than silver or gold."
Bob Marley

Whom did your paraphrase it from?


Pace Tua- My research is not legit like a course assignment. It is a friendly debate with the wifey. It gets boring down here in SW Virginia, so some times we debate about random topics. But I would appreciate any sites you could give me on the topic.

Nmaginate- I called Mrs. Rice about the site. She called me back, surprisingly. She sounded like a typical politician (I dont trust any politician black, green, red and especially not white) but I am impressed she called me back.

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