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THE NATION

An Eminent Domain High Tide

Riviera Beach, Fla., wants to displace about 6,000 of its residents and raze their homes to build a yachting and residential complex.

By John-Thor Dahlburg, Times Staff Writer

November 29, 2005

RIVIERA BEACH, Fla. "” It's across the inlet from Palm Beach, but this town "” mostly black, blue-collar and with a large industrial and warehouse district "” could be a continent away from the Fortune 500 and Rolls-Royce set.

But Riviera Beach's fortunes may soon change.

In what has been called the largest eminent-domain case in the nation, the mayor and other elected leaders want to move about 6,000 residents, tear down their homes and use the emptied 400-acre site to build a waterfront yachting and residential complex for the well-to-do.

The goal, Mayor Michael D. Brown said during a public meeting in September, is to "forever change the landscape" in this municipality of about 32,500. The $1-billion plan, local leaders have said, should generate jobs and haul Riviera Beach's economy out of the doldrums.

Opponents, however, call the plan a government-sanctioned land grab that benefits private developers and the wealthy.

"What they mean is that the view I have is too good for me, and should go to some millionaire," said Martha Babson, 60, a house painter who lives near the Intracoastal Waterway.

"This is a reverse Robin Hood," said state Rep. Ronald L. Greenstein, meaning the poor in Riviera Beach would be robbed to benefit the rich. Greenstein, a Coconut Creek Democrat, serves on a state legislative committee making recommendations on how to strengthen safeguards on private property.

With many Americans sensitized to eminent-domain cases after a much-discussed ruling by the Supreme Court in June, property-rights organizations have been pointing to redevelopment plans in this Palm Beach County town as proof that laws must be changed to protect homeowners and businesses from the schemes of politicians.

"You have people going in, essentially playing God, and saying something better than these people's homes should be built on this property," said Carol Saviak, executive director of the Coalition for Property Rights, based in Orlando. "That's inherently wrong."

"Unfortunately, taking poorer folks' homes and turning them into higher-end development projects is all too routine in Florida and throughout the country," said Scott G. Bullock, a senior attorney for the Institute for Justice, based in Washington. "What distinguishes Riviera Beach is the sheer scope of the project, and the number of people it displaces."

In June, a divided U.S. Supreme Court approved the plan of New London, Conn., to force some homeowners to sell their properties for a private development that was supposed to generate more jobs and tax revenue. That ruling has led to moves in Congress and at least 35 states, including Florida, to restrict the use of eminent-domain seizures of private property.

In Florida, the law allows local officials to take private land for redevelopment if they deem it "blighted." In May 2001, a study conducted for the city found that "slum and blighted conditions" existed in about a third of Riviera Beach, and that redevelopment was necessary "in the interest of public health, safety, morals and welfare."

A skeptical Babson, who lives in a single-story, concrete-block home painted aqua that she shares with parrots and a dog, did her own survey. For three months, she walked the streets of Riviera Beach photographing houses classified as "dilapidated" or "deteriorated" by specialists hired by the city.

The official study, she said, was riddled with errors and misclassifications. Lots inventoried as "vacant" (one of 14 criteria that allow Florida cities or counties to declare a neighborhood blighted) actually had homes on them built in 1997, she said. One house deemed "dilapidated," she found, was two years old.

Rene Corie has lived for nine years in a custard-yellow home near the Intracoastal. When the house was earmarked for acquisition under eminent domain four years ago, the 56-year-old seamstress became so depressed she couldn't put up her Christmas tree. She and her husband decided to fight City Hall in order to keep their home, or at the least, be paid a fair market price for it.

"We tried to elect a new mayor, we went around to churches, we stood on street corners with signs," Corie said. "When we got home from work, me and David would get into the truck and go door to door, and all day Saturday and Sunday."

Corie said she could be served at any time with another letter of acquisition for the house and the double lot it sits on. "My home is no longer my own," she said.

Mayor Brown and Floyd T. Johnson, executive director of the Riviera Beach Community Redevelopment Agency, did not respond to repeated requests from The Times for an interview.

The redevelopment agency's website says the plan will "create a city respected for its community pride and purpose and reshape it into a most desirable urban [place] to live, work, shop, and relax for its residents, business and visitors."

In past media interviews, Brown has said his city was in dire need of jobs, and that if officials weren't allowed to resort to eminent domain to spur growth, Riviera Beach could perish. '

Dee Cunningham, who made an unsuccessful bid for mayor in 2003, said the blueprint was written to benefit developers. Her own flower shop has been classified as "functionally obsolete" under the plan and could be razed.

"People here are so stressed out from being under threat of eminent domain," said Cunningham. "It's like living in Iraq with a bomb threat."

The median household income in Riviera Beach in 2000 was $32,111 compared with $94,562 in nearby Palm Beach, the U.S. Census said.

The redevelopment project designed to bootstrap Riviera Beach to prosperity is supposed to take 15 years. It involves moving U.S. Highway 1 and digging an artificial lagoon to serve as a yacht basin.

In September, the City Council chose a joint venture between a New Jersey-based yacht company and a builder of condominiums in Australia to serve as master developer. The developer, Viking Inlet Harbor Properties, and the city now must agree on a contract.

Residents affected by the plan are supposed to be eligible for new homes elsewhere in Riviera Beach and compensation for business damages. But the uncertainties have been maddening for some.

For 25 years, Bill Mars has sold and serviced luxury sportfishing boats in Riviera Beach. He hasn't been told yet, he said, whether a place in the redevelopment zone has been kept for him.

Under the plan, his sales and service center is supposed to make way for an aquarium.

"If you look at our business, we're one of the shining stars of Riviera Beach," Mars said. "Yet no one has come to us to say, 'We're going to take care of you and relocate you.' " That despite the plan's incorporation of a "working waterfront," including boat sales and repair.

The owners of another business in Riviera Beach's downtown accuse local leaders of not enforcing city codes in order to produce the decay that redevelopment is supposed to remedy.

"They want to leave everything in a dilapidated condition so it seems to everybody and to the government like it's blighted," said Mike Mahoney, a Riviera Beach native who runs Dee's T-Shirts.

Some foes of the redevelopment plan have attended seminars in Washington organized by property-rights advocates to learn how to better fight to save their homes.

Some residents have accepted offers from developers and moved out; others have retained lawyers to try to get a better price from the city. Still others are waiting to see what happens, noting the troubled history of local redevelopment efforts. "This is the fourth eminent domain CRA plan I've seen since I've been here," said Mars. "I survived those, and I may survive this one too."

Babson said she was counting on the Florida Legislature, as well as public interest kindled by the recent Supreme Court case, to halt the developers.

"We're definitely in Tiananmen Square: one little guy in front of all of those tanks," Babson said. "We've slowed them down, but we haven't stopped them."

Copyright 2005 Los Angeles Times

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....and Mayor Michael Brown, being another misfit from that so-called Black middleclass. When Mayor Brown's usefulness runs out, the wealthy Jews, that he is bringing in to displace Black folks from their own property, through exercising his authority to use eminent domain, to provide the land for luxuries for the wealthy, will soon come back to haunt this real Sambo, UT, idiot, traitor, etc. Disgraceful Mayor Michael Brown's usefulness to the wealthy will soon runout, and he will meet the same fate, as the Black people he plans to uproot from their own property.

There people on this board referring to others as being a UT, Sambo, etc., etc., but when the true UT's, Sambos, traitors, idiots, hit the scene, the name callers wouldn't know the difference if a true U.T., Sambo, passed in front of them, Mayor Michael Brown, being a fine disgraceful example.

But Oh well, that is the perversion of that Black middleclass. Michael Brown will probably be honored, praised, and placed at the top of the list of the Who's, Who's of Black America.....

.....While individuals truly deserving of praise are unwarrantedly called Sambos, UTs, they can't be Black, they need mental treatment, etc.

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Wait a minute! Michael this is a horrible story and no sane political progressive would try to defend Michael Brown's use of emminent domain to throw poor people off of waterfront property to make way for upscale condominiums or over-priced developments. Now CF, on the other hand, will probably argue you down because for people like him it is all about the money.

Whatever happened to you in your past has made you so bitter you often cut your nose to spite your own face. If you have truly read the posts of your sworn enemies, you would know that our championing for the rights of the poor never ends, and that we are very vocal in criticizing people of our own ethnicity who do wrong (not who are perceived to be wrong).
Considering my knowledge of Agenda 21, Sustainable Loss, Biodiversity--I am not surprised. by this new development. It is just a "Pam" exercise from another level. You have no idea what is being planned for the 'not so distant future'.

I suppose this new development won't be a repeat of the Tulsa Riots 'cause I'm sure the good blaq folk will go quietly, right?...

Fine
My friend Isome:

I am a strong proponent of PROPERTY RIGHTS. This is one reason why I oppose the punitive progressive taxes that you are inclined to support.

You see in my view INCOME is used to PURCHASE PROPERTY. So it stands to reason that if you confiscate large percentages of a person's SALARY in the pursuit of a certain political agenda (quasi-socialism) then you also prevent this person from PURCHASING PROPERTY that the government can take via ED.

It is interesting, Isome, that when we look at the recent Supreme Court decision on the subject it was the LEFT LEANING wing of the court who voted to hand the states the decision of using ED for PRIVATE economic development purposes.

Normally when such bedrock decisions are made that are counter to the US Constitution we will here Jesse tell us "how far the CLOCK HAS BEEN TURNED BACK". I wonder why we did not hear such a metaphor used with this decision that the leftwing arm of the court brought to us?

It is not suprising being that COLLECTIVISM trumped INDIVIDUAL property rights.
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Originally posted by Constructive Feedback:
My friend Isome:


We're not friends, cut the snide commentary because it distracts you from the topic.

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It is not suprising being that COLLECTIVISM trumped INDIVIDUAL property rights.


The use of emminent domain to transfer private property to a private developer for personal profit is no more collectivism than Hitler's dictatorship was socialism.

Come on, man. Intellectual integrity... get some!
The redevelopment project designed to bootstrap Riviera Beach to prosperity is supposed to take 15 years. It involves moving U.S. Highway 1 and digging an artificial lagoon to serve as a yacht basin.---article

This kind of public rationale survives because of people like this mayor who endorses it.

We all remember the howl sent up by the hosts of 'conservative radio', and notably by Limbaugh. Well...Limbaugh is a resident of the Palm Beach-West Palm Beach area, if I'm not mistaken.

You WILL NOT hear him yelling over the airwaves about this.

This African American community will not be successful in getting their 'voice' heard in the mass media. Why?

The mass media is the voice of corporate America.

The mass media IS cororate America.

As in Republican.


PEACE

Jim Chester
Empty Purnata meet a misfit, misfit meet Empty Purnata

"Take that to Vanguard, please. In case you didn't notice, this is a Black forum, not a White conservative forum." by Empty Purnata

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"Wait a minute! Michael this is a horrible story and no sane political progressive would try to defend Michael Brown's use of emminent domain to throw poor people off of waterfront property to make way for upscale condominiums or over-priced developments. Now CF, on the other hand, will probably argue you down because for people like him it is all about the money.

Whatever happened to you in your past has made you so bitter you often cut your nose to spite your own face. If you have truly read the posts of your sworn enemies, you would know that our championing for the rights of the poor never ends, and that we are very vocal in criticizing people of our own ethnicity who do wrong (not who are perceived to be wrong)." by Isome

"man....you sound like one of those bubba types from texas.........." by Kevin41 directed at Blacksanction

Ya Right......

......based on the absurd and totally baseless inaccurate comments of condemning, and/or unwarranted character assassination of a Michael Lofton, a CF, a Blacksanction, and/or others, while giving praise to that truly fitting misfit set, you couldn't convince me, CF, a Blacksanction, the Black underclass, and/or others that your word is true, be it Isome, a Kevin41, Empty Purnata, and/or others.

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...See what I mean, when the human trap is set, it doesn't take long to catch someone from this board who wouldn't know an UT, a misfit, a disgraceful individual if the two were sitting side by side taking a crap, and the misfit had an alarm on his body to prove that he was a Sambo, a UT, sleazy, disgraceful, a jerk, unfit, incompetent, etc., etc!

"Judicial Panel removes Ross from Superior Court seat

By GENE JOHNSON JR., Staff Writer

INGLEWOOD "” Embattled Judge Kevin Ross, removed from the bench for ethical violations and lying to the state panel that investigations judges, has yet to file an appeal in an effort to be reinstated.

Ross had been privately sanctioned by the commission in February 2001 for abusing his authority and demeaning and humiliating defendants.

The recent decision by the Commission on Judicial Performance, a state agency, was reached Nov. 16, said Victoria Henley, director/chief counsel for the commission. The commission's decision will be final 30 days after it was rendered.

Ross, who gained a seat on the Inglewood Municipal Court bench in 1998 by defeating Judge Lawrence Mason in an election, became a Superior Court judge in 2000 when the municipal court system was eliminated.

He has 60 days after the commission's decision is final to file an appeal, Henley said.

Under the state Constitution, the commission may admonish, censure or remove a judge from office for violating judicial canon.

Ross had been assigned to Dept. 67 at the downtown Metropolitan Courthouse. He earned his law degree from Southwestern College, serving as president of the Black Law Students Association. He unsuccessfully ran for the Los Angeles City Council in 1995.

In an earlier statement, Ross said he was unsure whether he would appeal the commission's decision to the state Supreme Court.

"As I have previously indicated, I accept complete responsibility for those specific actions that did not exemplify the highest standards of judicial excellence," he said.

Ross gets his $149,160 yearly salary while he decides whether or not to appeal the commission's ruling.

Calls to Ross' attorney, Long Beach-based Edward George, were not returned.

The commission removed Ross after their investigation found that he engaged in a "shocking abuse of power" that led to the wrongful conviction and two-day jail stay for a woman challenging a traffic violation, Henley said.

In 2003, Ross threw a woman in jail who was challenging a seat belt violation. He concluded that she lied when she said she wasn't the motorist who was pulled over.

According to the commission, Ross never informed the woman of her right to an attorney or right to challenge the case. Once officials learned of the woman's plight, another judge released her and dismissed the case.

The commission also reported that Ross tried to cover up the 2003 jailing during hearings before the commission.

Ross was also cited for filming a pilot television series called "Mobile Court" in a Los Angeles strip club.

The show never aired, but sitting judges are forbidden from arbitrating disputes outside the public court system. Other television judges are retired."

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Speaking of UTs, Sambos, traitors, proven misfits, and/or disgraceful individuals, it wouldn't be surprise at all for me to learn where the Black middleclass name a street passing through Inglewood, or name a public school where the predominate student body are Black people, and/or pay tribute in some other fashion in the name of no good kicked off the bench for being no good, "Hanging the Innocent High while more than likely setting the Truly criminal free" former Judge Kevin Ross.

....but Oh Well, the Empty Purnata's can't do anything but but show praise for such an individual

...while making unfounded allegations against those in the Black community who have yet to become a part of such treasonous activity.

.....and mind you neither Kevin Ross, nor Michael Brown have any affiliation with the Republican Party, the conservatives, the Black conservatives, because both of these individuals at one time or another are definitely associated with the Democratic Party, the liberal community, the treasonous set of that no good Black middleclass.
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The use of emminent domain to transfer private property to a private developer for personal profit is no more collectivism than Hitler's dictatorship was socialism.


My enemy Isome:

Clearly you don't know about all of Hitler's plans with respect to taking care of the "chosen people".

It seems that you don't want to have real world evidence to cloud your "socialist" dreams.
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Originally posted by Constructive Feedback:
My enemy Isome:

Clearly you don't know about all of Hitler's plans with respect to taking care of the "chosen people".

It seems that you don't want to have real world evidence to cloud your "socialist" dreams.


IF YOU THINK THAT ADOLPH HITLER WAS A SOCIALIST, YOU'RE A FUCKING MORON.

Adolph Hitler was a right-wing Fascist. If he was such a Socialist, why did he blame all of Germany's problems on Jews, Socialists, Communits and Liberals? Why did he go to war with the Soviet Union to fight against Communism?

Anyway, Socialism is different than Communism and is not about collectivism. Democratic Socialism strikes a balance between the two extremes of individualism and collectivism (because in all reality, no society is totally one or the other, neither is human nature).
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Originally posted by Michael:
Empty Purnata meet a misfit, misfit meet Empty Purnata

"Take that to Vanguard, please. In case you didn't notice, this is a Black forum, not a White conservative forum." by Empty Purnata

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"Wait a minute! Michael this is a horrible story and no sane political progressive would try to defend Michael Brown's use of emminent domain to throw poor people off of waterfront property to make way for upscale condominiums or over-priced developments. Now CF, on the other hand, will probably argue you down because for people like him it is all about the money.

Whatever happened to you in your past has made you so bitter you often cut your nose to spite your own face. If you have truly read the posts of your sworn enemies, you would know that our championing for the rights of the poor never ends, and that we are very vocal in criticizing people of our own ethnicity who do wrong (not who are perceived to be wrong)." by Isome

"man....you sound like one of those bubba types from texas.........." by Kevin41 directed at Blacksanction

Ya Right......

......based on the absurd and totally baseless inaccurate comments of condemning, and/or unwarranted character assassination of a Michael Lofton, a CF, a Blacksanction, and/or others, while giving praise to that truly fitting misfit set, you couldn't convince me, CF, a Blacksanction, the Black underclass, and/or others that your word is true, be it Isome, a Kevin41, Empty Purnata, and/or others.

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...See what I mean, when the human trap is set, it doesn't take long to catch someone from this board who wouldn't know an UT, a misfit, a disgraceful individual if the two were sitting side by side taking a crap, and the misfit had an alarm on his body to prove that he was a Sambo, a UT, sleazy, disgraceful, a jerk, unfit, incompetent, etc., etc!

"Judicial Panel removes Ross from Superior Court seat

By GENE JOHNSON JR., Staff Writer

INGLEWOOD "” Embattled Judge Kevin Ross, removed from the bench for ethical violations and lying to the state panel that investigations judges, has yet to file an appeal in an effort to be reinstated.

Ross had been privately sanctioned by the commission in February 2001 for abusing his authority and demeaning and humiliating defendants.

The recent decision by the Commission on Judicial Performance, a state agency, was reached Nov. 16, said Victoria Henley, director/chief counsel for the commission. The commission's decision will be final 30 days after it was rendered.

Ross, who gained a seat on the Inglewood Municipal Court bench in 1998 by defeating Judge Lawrence Mason in an election, became a Superior Court judge in 2000 when the municipal court system was eliminated.

He has 60 days after the commission's decision is final to file an appeal, Henley said.

Under the state Constitution, the commission may admonish, censure or remove a judge from office for violating judicial canon.

Ross had been assigned to Dept. 67 at the downtown Metropolitan Courthouse. He earned his law degree from Southwestern College, serving as president of the Black Law Students Association. He unsuccessfully ran for the Los Angeles City Council in 1995.

In an earlier statement, Ross said he was unsure whether he would appeal the commission's decision to the state Supreme Court.

"As I have previously indicated, I accept complete responsibility for those specific actions that did not exemplify the highest standards of judicial excellence," he said.

Ross gets his $149,160 yearly salary while he decides whether or not to appeal the commission's ruling.

Calls to Ross' attorney, Long Beach-based Edward George, were not returned.

The commission removed Ross after their investigation found that he engaged in a "shocking abuse of power" that led to the wrongful conviction and two-day jail stay for a woman challenging a traffic violation, Henley said.

In 2003, Ross threw a woman in jail who was challenging a seat belt violation. He concluded that she lied when she said she wasn't the motorist who was pulled over.

According to the commission, Ross never informed the woman of her right to an attorney or right to challenge the case. Once officials learned of the woman's plight, another judge released her and dismissed the case.

The commission also reported that Ross tried to cover up the 2003 jailing during hearings before the commission.

Ross was also cited for filming a pilot television series called "Mobile Court" in a Los Angeles strip club.

The show never aired, but sitting judges are forbidden from arbitrating disputes outside the public court system. Other television judges are retired."

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Speaking of UTs, Sambos, traitors, proven misfits, and/or disgraceful individuals, it wouldn't be surprise at all for me to learn where the Black middleclass name a street passing through Inglewood, or name a public school where the predominate student body are Black people, and/or pay tribute in some other fashion in the name of no good kicked off the bench for being no good, "Hanging the Innocent High while more than likely setting the Truly criminal free" former Judge Kevin Ross.

....but Oh Well, the Empty Purnata's can't do anything but but show praise for such an individual

...while making unfounded allegations against those in the Black community who have yet to become a part of such treasonous activity.

.....and mind you neither Kevin Ross, nor Michael Brown have any affiliation with the Republican Party, the conservatives, the Black conservatives, because both of these individuals at one time or another are definitely associated with the Democratic Party, the liberal community, the treasonous set of that no good Black middleclass.



**Lofton....remember that you are the one who has had the problems, not me....and I could educate the hell out of you before you could teach me anything....so if you think that denying yourself of more knowledge would hurt me...then your dysfunctional, criminal, self-hating mind is really off track. You talking to me about not listening is like a poor man making fun of a rich man's mansion...the rich man is holding and the poor man needs to try and be more like him...not the other way around....so please quit that warped form of self-flattery....you live in a hood full of blacks and mexicans and you hate them all...now who really has a problem? It is like how you brag about being a republican, who are the biggest racists, murders, criminals and theives.....yet you try to turn around and castigate black people exclusively......negro have you lost your little mind? and what is a UT? a student at university of texas?
"Lofton....remember that you are the one who has had the problems, not me....and I could educate the hell out of you before you could teach me anything....so if you think that denying yourself of more knowledge would hurt me...then your dysfunctional, criminal, self-hating mind is really off track. You talking to me about not listening is like a poor man making fun of a rich man's mansion...the rich man is holding and the poor man needs to try and be more like him...not the other way around....so please quit that warped form of self-flattery....you live in a hood full of blacks and mexicans and you hate them all...now who really has a problem? It is like how you brag about being a republican, who are the biggest racists, murders, criminals and theives.....yet you try to turn around and castigate black people exclusively......negro have you lost your little mind? and what is a UT? a student at university of texas?" by Kevin41

....nope, you wouldn't have any worthwhile that I would be interesting in grasping.

...Nothing you have would interest me!
oh yeah you would....i could show you how to improve your financial condition, health and educational level and get some balls and see yourself as equal to whites...as opposed to be cursed for being born black (if that is the case).....but you like things the way they are in your community lofton...it gives you a chance to see your own sad azz existence as worth something as opposed to having to get off of your azz and improve it.....but hey, don't do me no favors....if you like how things are....then I love it.....you can'tbeat that kind of agreement can you?
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Originally posted by Vox:
Am I missing something here, or don't we all agree here that this eminent domain threat in Florida is a bad thing? As was the Supreme Court decision?

What's with all the arguing if we all agree? Confused


Because Michael thinks Black people in general are amoral ne'er do wells, especially Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, et al. And, he doesn't think much of Martin Luther King either because in 1967 his family was the victim of some injustice and though they knew about it none of those people, including organizations like the NAACP, SCLC and SNCC didn't help them. As a result his mother, Esther, has been trying valiantly to get a court ordered judgement enforced but no one will listen to her. It has something to do with $5,000, too.

So, that makes the majority of Black people primitive beasts, except for the underclass, whom he prefers to associate with over other classes of Black people.

*gasp* I think I got it all.
that explains it all Isome.....but he'll never look inward and see why they were targeted as opposed to the million other blacks living around...i can tell the way he poo poo's facts in here about the social reality of blacks in this country that he would never humble himself to realize that maybe his people did mess up.....and that is not a bad thing....we all make mistakes...but when you are trying to posture yourself as a white man with a god complex...you will never take time out to look at self.........
I really hope you guys were not at work doing these posts nono

The issue at hand is that 6000 people are getting screwed in a land grab under the guise of ED. Whether you're a bleeding heart liberal or a cement head conservative this is just wrong but typical, considering who is running that state and country.

There needs to be strict oversight of ED claims or it will eventually lead to civil unrest (perhaps that is what is needed to get the laws to protect property rights).
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Originally posted by Isome:
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Originally posted by Vox:
Am I missing something here, or don't we all agree here that this eminent domain threat in Florida is a bad thing? As was the Supreme Court decision?

What's with all the arguing if we all agree? Confused


Because Michael thinks Black people in general are amoral ne'er do wells, especially Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, et al. And, he doesn't think much of Martin Luther King either because in 1967 his family was the victim of some injustice and though they knew about it none of those people, including organizations like the NAACP, SCLC and SNCC didn't help them. As a result his mother, Esther, has been trying valiantly to get a court ordered judgement enforced but no one will listen to her. It has something to do with $5,000, too.

So, that makes the majority of Black people primitive beasts, except for the underclass, whom he prefers to associate with over other classes of Black people.

*gasp* I think I got it all.


Like Nmaginate would say, he's got the "Scorned B*tch Syndrome".

"Hell hath no fury...."

lol
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Originally posted by Michael:
"Like Nmaginate would say, he's got the "Scorned B*tch Syndrome".

"Hell hath no fury...." by Empty Purnata

More likely the Black community is being ignored, kept in poverty, scorned, etc., namely because of the ignorance of the Black community itself!


The ignorance of the Black Community is not the end-all-be-all of our problems.

The ignorance stems from lack of education and poverty that is largely due to external oppression that becomes internalized within.

Dipshit...
Dipshit

....but Cosby left out the worst part, because the leadership of Compton and South Central Los Angeles has kept these areas in poverty, which makes this a breeding ground for criminal activity, the proliferation of gangs, etc.,etc.

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....For those who don't know or who are not aware.....

1. former Congressman Walter Tucker was indicted and convicted for accepting bribes, and stealing from the taxpayers of the residents of Compton.

2. former assemblywoman Pat Moore was was indicted and convicted for accepting bribes, and stealing from the taxpayers of the residents of Compton.

3. former Mayor Omar Bradley was was indicted and convicted for accepting bribes, and stealing from the taxpayers of the residents of Compton.

4. The Compton Unified School District, and Compton College have been taken over by the State of California on more than one occasion because the employees were on the take, stealing virtually anything that is not welded down. Heck so much graft, embezzlement, cheating, sleeping on the job, reporting to work while under the influence of illicit drugs, etc., etc., that it made it exceeding difficult to provide a quality educational experience, finance the purchase of textbooks for students, learning aids, provide classroom computers, maintain classrooms, bathrooms, and other facilities.

5. Killer/King Hospital and Charles Drew Medical School is on the edge of Compton, may lose its' accredidation, or face being closed down, and may lose millions of dollars in federal subsidies as a result of all the incompetence, the stealing, the greed, the sleaze, on the part of should I mention who........

6. Game playing, using false pretenses to hold elected office, Brentwood Yvonne B. Burke, no good serving foreign interests at the expense of Compton Merv Dymally, Maxine Kerosene Waters, carpetbagging caught with his pants down having lewd sex with a prostitute Assemblyman Kevin Murray, and/or other Black elected officials have known about, or contributed to this activity for decades, by remaining silent to protect personal friends, themselves, and/or to maintain the status quo.


...but Oh, well let us not be truthful. It is better to play the race card, and easier to blame Caucasians, Republicans, conservatives, to say these individuals are all at fault......

....... even though the Democratic Party, through our own misfit Black elected leaders, and poverty pimps have been large and in charge in Compton, and South Central Los Angeles, since 1965.

The employees found stealing include Black teachers, principals, other school administrators, secretaries, janitors, cafeteria workers, maintenance employees, and virtually every other classification working within Compton. Hispanics have also been found guilty of the same offenses, but the number of Hispanics caught stealing, cheating, lying, etc., from the City of Compton is not nearly as pronounced as the number Black people caught stealing from one of the most economically deprived corruption prone communities in the State of California. Mind you, many of these individuals on the take are university graduates who possess B.S., B.A., M.S., M.A., and even Doctorate Degrees.

...and the City of Compton, is very much improved, not because of Black people, but rather the Hispanic community expects accountability, and will not tolerate this activity. The businesss community has finally returned to Compton, namely due to the heavy influx of Hispanics, whose culture is family oriented, and promote the ideals of "free enterprize".

Stay clear of these misfits and you too can be successful.

It is going to take more than the words of wisdom, and/or lipservice from an Empty Purnata to correct this reality, which indeed is a very real reality!

Sincerely,

Michael Lofton
EP......you should know better to even try to have a coherent converstaion that is grounded in any kind of logic...the cat is too dysfunctional to even process information and provide a relevant response.....I say schit to him just to see how unrelated the answer will be...and it always is...man I bet his teachers in grade school needed a stiff drink after grading his papers......
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Originally posted by Kevin41:
EP......you should know better to even try to have a coherent converstaion that is grounded in any kind of logic...the cat is too dysfunctional to even process information and provide a relevant response.....I say schit to him just to see how unrelated the answer will be...and it always is...man I bet his teachers in grade school needed a stiff drink after grading his papers......


LOL lol

Yeah, he just said that Conservatives by and large hold wealth. lol Who? The leaders or the people? It damn sure ain't the people because most Republicans are working-class or lower-middle class in America.

Haha.
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This negro needs to name communities in particular...because that shit is an affront to black people who come from communities that are not necessarily wealthy....but the people work hard to keep their schit up, crime down and educate the hell out of their kids.....maybe his community and he himself is fucked up....but I'm not carrying the burden of black ness because of his stupid azz and those around him who act likewise....self-hating negroes need to quit making those broad azz generalizations just because THEY comefrom something f-ked up or act that way themselves......my community back in texas is damn near utopic compared to most....but we still do not think we are better than anyone else or try to look down on others who are less fortunate or maybe do not even understand why they do the things they do......but it is funny hearing all this degrading schit come from those who are not squeaky clean or overacheivers themselves....I swear their disdain for black people is a feeble attempt to feel better about who they grew up to be...........
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"I've noticed that many conservative foolios have trouble shutting the hell up and frequently hang around out where no one likes them. The dislike is general, not in a personal sense, considering that they're so whacked out very few try to know them well. But their presence, particularly in cyber settings, and constant interjecting of stale dialogue is an immediate alert to discerning individuals that a mentally imbalanced person, possibly a convicted felon of unstable parents who also had to be incarcerated, is in the vicinity." by Isome, Seconded by Kevin, etc.

Can't be a winner if you accept, or hold as being valid the lies of losers, or individuals who accept the lies of losers as being factual. This being said......
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Originally posted by Vox:
Wow, Isome... I tuned his posts out so long ago (I skim, when I do check him out), that I missed all of that all of these years.

A vendetta! It all makes sense now!


Aha! That's exactly what I said!!

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Originally posted by Empty Purnata:
Like Nmaginate would say, he's got the "Scorned B*tch Syndrome".

"Hell hath no fury...."


Indeed, 'tis true my friend EP!!

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Originally posted by Kevin41:
...the cat is too dysfunctional to even process information and provide a relevant response...


Again, that is indeed, too true!

You know what's worse? He has been all over the internet posting the exact same things he does here, including his phone number and his mother's full name.

That's how I was able to find transcripts where an LA supervisor, or some such thing, had to tell his mother to please "sum" up her statements because her time on the floor was already up. His mother, according to the transcripts, speaks the same way he writes: rambling with no discernable main point.

It's sad really. This guy doesn't know what to do with himself. At the same time however, people have tried to be patient with him and he is totally unable to process information. Many of us have railed against policies, like emminent domain, that displace the poor and politically powerless, but he insists that this is something we would support or ignore. And, to top it all off, his sometimes idol CF comes in to laud this decision to eject people from their land and he has nothing to say about it.

The only thing to do is what has been done -- ignore him, talk around him, talk at him, talk over him (easy to do), but it's pointless to talk to him.
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Originally posted by Isome:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Vox:
Wow, Isome... I tuned his posts out so long ago (I skim, when I do check him out), that I missed all of that all of these years.

"Again, that is indeed, too true!

You know what's worse? He has been all over the internet posting the exact same things he does here, including his phone number and his mother's full name.

That's how I was able to find transcripts where an LA supervisor, or some such thing, had to tell his mother to please "sum" up her statements because her time on the floor was already up. His mother, according to the transcripts, speaks the same way he writes: rambling with no discernable main point.

It's sad really. This guy doesn't know what to do with himself. At the same time however, people have tried to be patient with him and he is totally unable to process information. Many of us have railed against policies, like emminent domain, that displace the poor and politically powerless, but he insists that this is something we would support or ignore. And, to top it all off, his sometimes idol CF comes in to laud this decision to eject people from their land and he has nothing to say about it.

The only thing to do is what has been done -- ignore him, talk around him, talk at him, talk over him (easy to do), but it's pointless to talk to him." by Isome

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Kevin41:
ha ha.....I do not worry about ever having to compete against you lofton...i'm out of your league...so there is no sense in me saying anything else...we all know the reality of things....that is why I got off my azz in life....so if I did hate everyone that I lived around...I could just get the f-k out and not shorten my life stewing in my hatred for self and those who look like me.......so think what you like....there are reasons for your behaviors and sordid thoughts...but if you think the shit you say is the sign of an intelligent, normal human being, then keep believing my man....it is you and not me....if you're happy...i'm standing there cheering for ya.......


If I were you, I'd stay within arms reach of any individual to whom I care for, and place plenty of distance between my allies, and any group of losers. Miserable losers love company, and winners want no part of such company!

*******************************

Too bad Black folks continue to jump on the wrong horse, namely the losing faction. President George Bush will go down in history as being a great President. Instead of using common sense, the typical Black middleclass allow their hatred for Caucasians to get the best of them.

In the end the winning Bush Administration, and/or Conservative Democrats won't owe the Black community a damn thing. By and large the typical Black middleclass follow losing liberal Democratic ideology even if it kills off the future posterity of the Black community!

....and the Hispanic community being the fastest growing ethnic group in the U.S., and unlike Black folks, Hispanics are not dominated or controlled by the Democratic Party, lock, stock, and barrel!

The Hispanic community is more balanced between the Democratic Party and the Republican Party. The Hispanic community is also more private business oriented, which explains why there are a multitude of Hispanic Republicans, who have chosen to be aligned with the conservative business oriented Republican Party. The Republican Party unlike the Democratic Party, promotes the ideals of free enterprise, business development, and less government influence, social welfare, poverty programs, etc., etc.!

Way to go Black middleclass. Give yourselves a losers pat on the back. I'm so glad Michael Lofton is not in any regard a party to being in on any losing hand. Keep listening to the Empty Purnatas, Isomes, Kevin41s, Merv Dymally, Kevin Ross, no good Reverend Jesse Jackson, Kerosene Waters, etc., etc., and I'm willing to bet the only thing the Black community will meet and greet, and/or hope to look forward to is more poverty!


More likely the Black community is being ignored, kept in poverty, scorned, etc., namely because of the ignorance of the Black community itself!

This negro needs to name communities in particular...because that shit is an affront to black people who come from communities that are not necessarily wealthy....

".......but the people work hard to keep their schit up, crime down and educate the hell out of their kids.....maybe his community and he himself is fucked up....but I'm not carrying the burden of black ness because of his stupid azz and those around him who act likewise....self-hating negroes need to quit making those broad azz generalizations just because THEY comefrom something f-ked up or act that way themselves......my community back in texas is damn near utopic compared to most....but we still do not think we are better than anyone else or try to look down on others who are less fortunate or maybe do not even understand why they do the things they do......but it is funny hearing all this degrading schit come from those who are not squeaky clean or overacheivers themselves....I swear their disdain for black people is a feeble attempt to feel better about who they grew up to be..........." by Kevin41


"I've noticed that many conservative foolios have trouble shutting the hell up and frequently hang around out where no one likes them. The dislike is general, not in a personal sense, considering that they're so whacked out very few try to know them well. But their presence, particularly in cyber settings, and constant interjecting of stale dialogue is an immediate alert to discerning individuals that a mentally imbalanced person, possibly a convicted felon of unstable parents who also had to be incarcerated, is in the vicinity." by Isome, Seconded by Kevin, etc.

Can't be a winner if you accept, or hold as being valid the lies of losers, or individuals who accept the lies of losers as being factual. This being said......
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Originally posted by Kevin41:
This negro needs to name communities in particular...because that shit is an affront to black people who come from communities that are not necessarily wealthy....but the people work hard to keep their schit up, crime down and educate the hell out of their kids.....maybe his community and he himself is fucked up....but I'm not carrying the burden of black ness because of his stupid azz and those around him who act likewise....self-hating negroes need to quit making those broad azz generalizations just because THEY comefrom something f-ked up or act that way themselves......my community back in texas is damn near utopic compared to most....but we still do not think we are better than anyone else or try to look down on others who are less fortunate or maybe do not even understand why they do the things they do......but it is funny hearing all this degrading schit come from those who are not squeaky clean or overacheivers themselves....I swear their disdain for black people is a feeble attempt to feel better about who they grew up to be...........


Oh' and let's not ever forget that he is a big supporter of that big mouth idiot Bill Cosby. What he cannot wrap his mind around is that the same "underclass" that he prefers to be around is the target of Bill's ire, and the same Black middle class that he hates is being comforted by Bill as having been let down by the Black "underclass".
"Oh' and let's not ever forget that he is a big supporter of that big mouth idiot Bill Cosby. What he cannot wrap his mind around is that the same "underclass" that he prefers to be around is the target of Bill's ire, and the same Black middle class that he hates is being comforted by Bill as having been let down by the Black "underclass"."

Another fallacy. This is what happens when others attempt to speak for someone, in that they end up distorting the true nature of the individual.


If I were you, I'd stay within arms reach of any individual to whom I care for, and place plenty of distance between my allies, and any group of losers. Miserable losers love company, and winners want no part of such company!

*******************************

Too bad Black folks continue to jump on the wrong horse, namely the losing faction. President George Bush will go down in history as being a great President. Instead of using common sense, the typical Black middleclass allow their hatred for Caucasians to get the best of them.

In the end the winning Bush Administration, and/or Conservative Democrats won't owe the Black community a damn thing. By and large the typical Black middleclass follow losing liberal Democratic ideology even if it kills off the future posterity of the Black community!

....and the Hispanic community being the fastest growing ethnic group in the U.S., and unlike Black folks, Hispanics are not dominated or controlled by the Democratic Party, lock, stock, and barrel!

The Hispanic community is more balanced between the Democratic Party and the Republican Party. The Hispanic community is also more private business oriented, which explains why there are a multitude of Hispanic Republicans, who have chosen to be aligned with the conservative business oriented Republican Party. The Republican Party unlike the Democratic Party, promotes the ideals of free enterprise, business development, and less government influence, social welfare, poverty programs, etc., etc.!

Way to go Black middleclass. Give yourselves a losers pat on the back. I'm so glad Michael Lofton is not in any regard a party to being in on any losing hand. Keep listening to the Empty Purnatas, Isomes, Kevin41s, Merv Dymally, Kevin Ross, no good Reverend Jesse Jackson, Kerosene Waters, etc., etc., and I'm willing to bet the only thing the Black community will meet and greet, and/or hope to look forward to is more poverty!


More likely the Black community is being ignored, kept in poverty, scorned, etc., namely because of the ignorance of the Black community itself!

"This negro needs to name communities in particular...because that shit is an affront to black people who come from communities that are not necessarily wealthy...." by Kevin41

"I've noticed that many conservative foolios have trouble shutting the hell up and frequently hang around out where no one likes them. The dislike is general, not in a personal sense, considering that they're so whacked out very few try to know them well. But their presence, particularly in cyber settings, and constant interjecting of stale dialogue is an immediate alert to discerning individuals that a mentally imbalanced person, possibly a convicted felon of unstable parents who also had to be incarcerated, is in the vicinity." by Isome, Seconded by Kevin, etc.

This just in:

M. Lofton, like his momma, talks too much and has to be told to shut da' hell up! And, he won't help her pay the $5k she owes for her crimes. Pay her M. Lofton, help yo' momma!!

by Isome

Honor your father and your mother! How true, and the words and actions of an Isome or otherwise are rendered meaningless!

"Honor your father and your mother..." - This commandment is a development when compared to other laws of the Ancient East (for example, the Code of Hammurabi) that do not call for equal respect of the father and the mother."

Something must definitely be amiss with Black people, if the actions of an Isome are typical, a statement that would not only be disrespectful to my Mom, in the event that such a statement ever came out of my mouth, the statement as authored by Isome would also be a bold face lie!

This just adds to the arsenal of material that will be circulated to quash falsehoods, falsehoods that originate from Black people! Thank you Isome, for making my case stronger!

Can't be a winner if you accept, or hold as being valid the lies of losers, or individuals who accept the lies of losers as being factual. This being said......

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yeah Isome...it is sad indeed......that people go through lives fooling themselves while trying to fool others..... sad


"....if followed that your damn self and you wouldn't be running to bush or racist whites in hopes of finding your own salvation..........." by Kevin41

If I were you, I'd stay within arms reach of any individual to whom I care for, and place plenty of distance between my allies, and any group of losers. Miserable losers love company, and winners want no part of such company!

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Why I switched political parties!

*******************************

Too bad Black folks continue to jump on the wrong horse, namely the losing faction. President George Bush will go down in history as being a great President. Instead of using common sense, the typical Black middleclass allow their hatred for Caucasians to get the best of them.

In the end the winning Bush Administration, and/or Conservative Democrats won't owe the Black community a damn thing. By and large the typical Black middleclass follow losing liberal Democratic ideology even if it kills off the future posterity of the Black community!

....and the Hispanic community being the fastest growing ethnic group in the U.S., and unlike Black folks, Hispanics are not dominated or controlled by the Democratic Party, lock, stock, and barrel!

The Hispanic community is more balanced between the Democratic Party and the Republican Party. The Hispanic community is also more private business oriented, which explains why there are a multitude of Hispanic Republicans, who have chosen to be aligned with the conservative business oriented Republican Party. The Republican Party unlike the Democratic Party, promotes the ideals of free enterprise, business development, and less government influence, social welfare, poverty programs, etc., etc.!

Way to go Black middleclass. Give yourselves a losers pat on the back. I'm so glad Michael Lofton is not in any regard a party to being in on any losing hand. Keep listening to the Empty Purnatas, Isomes, Kevin41s, Merv Dymally, Kevin Ross, no good Reverend Jesse Jackson, Kerosene Waters, etc., etc., and I'm willing to bet the only thing the Black community will meet and greet, and/or hope to look forward to is more poverty!


More likely the Black community is being ignored, kept in poverty, scorned, etc., namely because of the ignorance of the Black community itself!

This negro needs to name communities in particular...because that shit is an affront to black people who come from communities that are not necessarily wealthy....

".......if followed that your damn self and you wouldn't be running to bush or racist whites in hopes of finding your own salvation..........." by Kevin41

"I've noticed that many conservative foolios have trouble shutting the hell up and frequently hang around out where no one likes them. The dislike is general, not in a personal sense, considering that they're so whacked out very few try to know them well. But their presence, particularly in cyber settings, and constant interjecting of stale dialogue is an immediate alert to discerning individuals that a mentally imbalanced person, possibly a convicted felon of unstable parents who also had to be incarcerated, is in the vicinity." by Isome, Seconded by Kevin, etc.

This just in:

M. Lofton, like his momma, talks too much and has to be told to shut da' hell up! And, he won't help her pay the $5k she owes for her crimes. Pay her M. Lofton, help yo' momma!!

by Isome

Honor your father and your mother! How true, and the words and actions of an Isome or otherwise are rendered meaningless!

"Honor your father and your mother..." - This commandment is a development when compared to other laws of the Ancient East (for example, the Code of Hammurabi) that do not call for equal respect of the father and the mother."

Something must definitely be amiss with Black people, if the actions of an Isome are typical, a statement that would not only be disrespectful to my Mom, in the event that such a statement ever came out of my mouth, the statement as authored by Isome would also be a bold face lie!

This just adds to the arsenal of material that will be circulated to quash falsehoods, falsehoods that originate from Black people! Thank you Isome, for making my case stronger!

Can't be a winner if you accept, or hold as being valid the lies of losers, or individuals who accept the lies of losers as being factual. This being said......

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"I wonder if this guy Lofton would look over his shoulder in lilly white backwoods part of alabama at night if there were white guys walking behind him....lets see him really test his loyalty to those good ole white folks......." by Kevin41

....now I really have no reason to visit or relocate to the lilly white backwoods of Alabama or otherwise. Can't make any real money there, none of my relatives, or anyone I would want to visit lives there, so it would be pointless to make such a move or visit. Now if I were to make such a visit or move, my chances of survival would still be much greater than the risk of living in any predominately Black community.

..and I neither listen to or take advice from any two bit professor, any liar, and/or any loser!

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