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IRONHORSE.... STFU!!!

When you actually exhibit all the behavior you require of others then you can talk. I don't recall making threads with your name on them. So, again, STFU!!!

If you ever wanted to argue constructively then I would do that with you. Since you like to bullshit, I oblige you. Don't cry when my game is tighter than yours.... on whatever level.

So, yes. I like to argue. But I also like to have substantive discussions/debates. You've been lacking on all accounts. So, again, STFU!!!

You were the one who said you had so much time... this and that. I just like to play with your punk ass... well... because you're a punk.

Yep! That about sums it up.

It wasn't me who came up with BS threads like this:

http://africanamerica.org/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/79160213/m/6511001772/p/1

All because YOU couldn't deal with stuff like this:

http://africanamerica.org/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/79160213/m/1871015672

So, really, I should be asking you what type of prize you thought you were winning every time you called my name... like a BITCH... by putting my name in the title of your threads?
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Originally posted by IRONHORSE:
Time ran out a long time ago. I recieved no response in a private message as far as directions from this Fagunwa person about meeting up so we can "fight." What a fucking joke--threaten someone and challenge them to a fight and then disappear for weeks.

As for you, Nmaginate, you need to grow up, and I mean that in the most serious way. It's one thing to bounce back and forth if the argument is constructive but a person like you loves to argue just for the sake of arguing, and for what? To prove what? To win a prize? To get selected for the job of your dreams? Get the fuck outta here and move on to something more constructive than trying to instigate an altercation on a website.


I had to take a trip. I really don't think a beating would help you see anything differently, although I would feel a lot better. So instead of fighting I choose to pray. I pray for myself and all of us.
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I had to take a trip. I really don't think a beating would help you see anything differently, although I would feel a lot better. So instead of fighting I choose to pray. I pray for myself and all of us.


Translation: I'm an immature, phoney, coward with no integrity and no common sense.

Fagunwa, your excuses are shallow and irrelevent. Acting the fool like you did, threatening me on a damn website, then talking about praying about it later shows how childish and simple-minded you are. If you were such a holy righteous, law-abiding man, you wouldn't have created this drama to begin with. What a phoney you are, Fagunwa, and to hide under religion as an excuse to control your rage is more of a projection of how simple-minded you are.

One day, you're going to throw a temper tantrum with the wrong person and end up dead, face down in a canal somewhere in Miami, because you don't know who the fuck is on the other side of a computer you're fucking with, you idiot. You're only one man--you can't stop a bullet, you can't stop a gang of men from beating you down, and you can't stop someone that is determined to seek you out and snuff out your life.

Now, go pray some more on that, and thank God your wife probably saw how stupid you were acting or MBM probably warned you in a private message to stop acting like a damn fool.
IRONHORSE.... STFU!!!

Drama... you can't talk about.
Maturity... you can't talk about.
Integrity... you have none. You can't talk about that either.

So take your punk ass back into hiding.

"MBM probably warned you..."

Well, we know he didn't go the PM route with somebody here. Or rather on somebody's Drama Thread. You know, the thread where the BITCH was calling my name. "Nmag! Nmag!"

So, really, what is it?
You don't own one single mirror or something?
Or is it that you just can't take what you like to dish out?

Yeah, you're good for saying, "stop playing"... but your ass is always on the playground. I mean? You not going to take the ball and go home... like a BITCH are you?
In all seriousness--you must be gay, nmaginate. need a dick in your mouth, dude. Like I said before--all you want to do is argue like a homeless little crack head bitch.

I refuse to argue with you about NOTHING. Faggit ass motherfucker butting your nose in a conversation between two other people and trying to instigate a fight like a fucking ignorant ass bitch. No wonder everybody ignores your ignorant, triffling, lying ass.
Yes, everyone ignores me IRONHORSE and I'm so sad about it. But you... for you they're all ears. I'm sure they love it when you call their names like a Scorned BITCH!!!

Still waiting for your DEFINITION OF BLACKNESS!
And it seems I was off in this "conversation" before Fagunwa even commented. So, for once, be about something IH... Be about the truth for once.

And please quote some more from one of your favorite White Supremacist sites. That was the shit!! Stupid, sorry ass BITCH!!!


Tick.... Tock!!
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Originally posted by IRONHORSE:
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I had to take a trip. I really don't think a beating would help you see anything differently, although I would feel a lot better. So instead of fighting I choose to pray. I pray for myself and all of us.


Translation: I'm an immature, phoney, coward with no integrity and no common sense.

Fagunwa, your excuses are shallow and irrelevent. Acting the fool like you did, threatening me on a damn website, then talking about praying about it later shows how childish and simple-minded you are. If you were such a holy righteous, law-abiding man, you wouldn't have created this drama to begin with. What a phoney you are, Fagunwa, and to hide under religion as an excuse to control your rage is more of a projection of how simple-minded you are.

One day, you're going to throw a temper tantrum with the wrong person and end up dead, face down in a canal somewhere in Miami, because you don't know who the fuck is on the other side of a computer you're fucking with, you idiot. You're only one man--you can't stop a bullet, you can't stop a gang of men from beating you down, and you can't stop someone that is determined to seek you out and snuff out your life.

Now, go pray some more on that, and thank God your wife probably saw how stupid you were acting or MBM probably warned you in a private message to stop acting like a damn fool.


You are a truly enlightened human being. It has been a pleasure to read your posts, I have learned so much. Thank you.
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Originally posted by IRONHORSE:
Thanks for your patronizing words, Fagunwa. This little drama is declared moot, irrelevent, and over.

Act like the God-fearing man you proclaim to be and find some other outlet for releasing your aggressions.


Thank you for you words of wisdom Mr. Horse your behavior has set a proper example for me. I must clear up one thing though, I do not fear god. Oh by the way I have a cure for that ulcer if your interested.
When in Rome...

After reviewing pages of this thread, its quite obvious that Iron has been desparately trying to tell you all his definition of "blackness," through his behavior. We're talking about an individual who finds it perfectly acceptable to openly refer to black people as "niggas." I remember on one occassion he called Heru a "nigga" on the forum. And apparently, any black person that does not identify with this term is quickly deemed as a "bourgie prude." The irony (no pun intended) is, while he desires for black people to abandon all of the characteristics that are associated with "blackness" and "niggerish" behavior, he himself has yet to abandon this behavior and frame of mind. Its unfortunate that (some) black people feel uncomfortable rising above an inferior status. Why is it more suitable for Africans to identify themselves as "niggas?" Should Africans be considered "bourgie prudes" when they choose not to communicate and interact with others as if they've just been recruited off the streets??? As far as I can tell, the only thing that has been "unnecessary" in this discussion are the highly emotional, inflammatory, defensive, and combative responses issued by Ironhorse toward anyone whose dared to enter this discussion. If you consider yourself as not being compatible in character with most of the people that frequent this site, the common sense action to take is to find a site where you and the members have more in common. Just a suggestion.
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Oh, okay, Rowe--Fagunwa challenges me to a fight but I'm supposed to be angry? HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!!! Y'all kill me!! What anger are you referring to?? If I was angry I would definately express myself in an angry way.

I don't catch feelings on the internet--really, it isn't that serious. I may run around a cuss and act the fool from time to time but I can't see myself actually hating somebody that I've never met. I sure as hell don't follow people around and try to instigate arguments like your friend, nmaginate, the sexually repressed, closet homosexual that he is. Even I get tired of arguing about the same damn pointless garbage all the time. My words are simply that--words. I speak in a very aggressive manner with a little sharp wit for a chaser--it's harmless and entertaining.

Now, as far as what my idea of "blackness" is-- I'll devulge that piece of information soon enough in my own discussion. I know that fucker is reading this part of my thread as we speak, and I want him to wait for my discussion. Heheheheheh.....
I think--well--I know what the problem is here. It's a common problem that exists when black people get together to discuss inflamatory issues. People often choose to be followers, grin, and agree with others because they are afraid of being rejected if they express opinions that may or may not coincide with someone elses.

See, in the real world that would apply but on the internet--the rules of social interaction go out of the window. I most certainly wouldn't say the things I say on the internet to someone in person. That's the fun of being on the internet--not only do you have the opportunity to express your own opinions but you also can express yourself to the extent of what you would truly like to say.

Now, as far as you calling yourself indirectly dismissing me from this site because I've used the word "nigga" and you don't approve--you are right--it is indeed prudish and bourgie to think that you could judge someone's true character just because they express themselves a little more losely online than they do in person.

Like I've told you before, Rowe, you are very biased when it comes to conversations about black men and women. It's rather narrow-minded to assume that I should mindlessly agree with all of your feminist mantra when you don't mindlessly agree with mine.

It's rather childish--if you don't agree with what I speak on and if I don't quickly retract what I said, bow, and apologize to you for what I said, you want to pack up your toys and go home. If I don't agree with something you've discussed I'm not going to proceed with some condescending rant and dismiss you the way you've done with me.

Geez, arrogance and bourginess is rampant on this site--the mere thought that some of you feel you have to distance yourself from someone that doesn't think, feel, and act exactly the way you do, and feel ordained to dismiss them if they don't meet your rigid standards. Loosen up your panties, why don't ya, and relax, relate and release, damn!

From now on, if you don't agree with what I say just simply say you don't agree. I have treated you with the same respect have I not?

Oh, and as far as that "When in Rome" gag--this ain't Rome. This isn't even Louisville, Kentucky--it's a website.
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I think--well--I know what the problem is here. It's a common problem that exists when black people get together to discuss inflamatory issues. People often choose to be followers, grin, and agree with others because they are afraid of being rejected if they express opinions that may or may not coincide with someone elses.
No the problem here is that you have no gnads!!

You try to make weak points and when they get contradicted you shrink like you actually had a pair in a pool full of ice water.

And... ROWE...
While I like to talk shit, you know there's a big difference between the content of my discourse and IRON's. There's aifference between a blowtorch firing on the issue and a maniac with a bic lighter trying burn you.

Right now, I'm not climbing so I'm not (on) the latter! lol
So how long will it take for you to DEFINE BLACKNESS.

The clock is ticking!
Who will be the most NIGGERISH-est! sck

Please Note: The Clock Started for you on MAY 12, 2005 per HERU.
Hmm... already 19 some-odd days into your NIGGERISH-dom. tongue

Will you beat the clock? Or will your scared, PUNK ass just Beat It?

Do that Michael Jackson, boyeeee!
cabbage



Don't tell me you're going to continue to PUNK OUT!! Don't tell me, I got your little bitch ass scared? Don't tell me that!!

TICK! TOCK!! Bitch!!


Damn! Your time been up!
Now what's you Crybaby Bitch's Excuse? Confused
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Originally posted by IRONHORSE:
Now, as far as you calling yourself indirectly dismissing me from this site because I've used the word "nigga" and you don't approve--you are right--it is indeed prudish and bourgie to think that you could judge someone's true character just because they express themselves a little more losely online than they do in person.


A man is what he thinks. And if you think that it is acceptable to identify an African person as a "nigga" in formal or informal settings, this says a great deal about your thinking, attitude, and yes, character. If you will notice no one on this site is referring to one another as "niggas" because we understand that in order to accomplish anything worthwhile in a discussion, a certain level of self-respect and dignity has to be maintained. This cannot be achieved by resorting to name-calling, disrespect, and personal attacks, all of which you have demonstrated upon your arrival to this site. Therefore, your suggestion for me to "loosen up my panties and relax" is really a recommendation for me, as well as other members, to compromise our self-respect by accommodating your style of discussion. This is not only unfair to the members of this forum, but it clearly reveals a very self-centered and self-involved frame of mind. It matters little to me whether or not you agree with my "feminist perspective," I'm only concerned about the ways that you behave and communicate once you acknowledge a disagreement, which as of late, has been unacceptable not only by my standards but literally everyone with whom you have come into contact. Let me just say finally that in order for black people to be the kind of people that you, as well as all of us are striving to become, we must practice understanding, respect, and dignity, WHEREVER we may be. I understand your need to get "loose" with it sometimes, I like to speak casually sometimes as well. And we certainly like the idea of new members bringing fresh perspectives to the forum, but brotha let's exercise at least some limitations on this looseness, most importantly, lets keep in mind that everyone's perspective counts.
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Originally posted by Nmaginate:
And... ROWE...While I like to talk shit, you know there's a big difference between the content of my discourse and IRON's. There's aifference between a blowtorch firing on the issue and a maniac with a bic lighter trying burn you.


Yes, I know how you get down Nmaginate, but when brother Iron first joined the forum, he reminded me of you when you first joined, back when I went under the name "Yjs8076" so many years ago. Both of you are so very opinionated that I knew you two (Alpha Males) would bump heads eventually. Smile
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First of all, Rowe, you still haven't acknowledged the fact that you are, indeed, biased in regards to discussions made about black men and black women. Secondly, when I'm insulted with terms like, Bitch, elasti-girl, loser, stupid ass, and various other off-color words, especially when my discussions didn't warrant as such, you can bet your ass, first of all, that I'm going to respond aggressively and use the name, "nigga" among other words. Secondly, a conversation is going to go down in the dumps anyway if either person resorts to insults.

It just amazes me, Rowe, how you always point the finger at me as being insulting while you completely ignore the onslaught of unecessary slanderous comments that have been thrown in my direction. You, Rowe, make it seem like I was slinging insults from the first day I came on this site. From the very first discussion I made I was called, arrogant, sexist, narrow-minded as well as a few other unecessary comments just for explaining my own opinion according to my own personal experiences.

The only fool that is still throwing unecessary slanderous comments in my direction is Nmaginate--regardless of whether people on this site have chosen to ignore my threads or play the "kill em' with kindness" role After the fact of slinging slanderous, threatening comments, I have not exchanged any insulting comments with anyone on this site.

What kills me is these people, in the begining, thought just because I was new to this site and they, as Faheem put it, "do things a certain way" thought they could teach me how to interact in a certain manner while on this site. This isn't a dictatorship and it sure as hell isn't a country club, a greek organization or some kind of auxilary club.

Here's another condescending comment:

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I understand your need to get "loose" with it sometimes, I like to speak casually sometimes as well. And we certainly like the idea of new members bringing fresh perspectives to the forum, but brotha let's exercise at least some limitations on this looseness...--Rowe


So far, I haven't seen you speak in a casual fashion at any point in time--you don't even start a new thought with a new paragraph. You write all of these solid blocks of type which transmits the feeling of rigidness and constipation. You treat nearly every discussion like it's a joint session of congress or a congressional hearing, and how old are you? 22?

When I make discussions or participate with responses to other discussions I don't always respond 'loosely' which leads me to another thought--I'm a grown ass man and the fact that someone 11 years my junior can think she can instruct me on how to behave on something as trivial, entertaining, and informal as a website hilarious. I've mentored young women your age, I've taught young women your age. I most definately know where and when is the appropriate time to be serious and professional or whimsical and casual.

What you should do, young lady, is you should stop walking around this site trying to preach to me about protocol while you're being so one-sided about your gender battles, and stop pouting if I don't mindlessly follow you in being unecessarily critical of black men while holding black women in a light of such infallible innocense, purity, and chastity.
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The only fool that is still throwing unecessary slanderous comments in my direction is Nmaginate--regardless of whether people on this site have chosen to ignore my threads or play the "kill em' with kindness" role After the fact of slinging slanderous, threatening comments, I have not exchanged any insulting comments with anyone on this site.


This thread of yours doesn't square with your usual slanted accounting:

http://africanamerica.org/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/79160213/m/1871015672/p/1

Who slandered, threatened or otherwise demeaned you there IRONHORSE? Who did such a thing that you either didn't precipitate or reciprocate? I you know I don't play that "kindness" bullshit.

You talk all this "Tough" shit but then here your whimpy ass is talking about "unnecessary" stuff because "you want it to stop".

A fuckin' hypocrite and a CRYBABY to top it off!
Me, I like to flex... apparently your muscles get sore quicker than mine. lol

That link right there shows how quick I put your shit on spazz!!

And I don't care a anything about your style... In fact, being the "Alpha" Male I am (as ROWE suggested), I don't play that "nice" stuff. But your ass will get to content or do as you're doing now... acting like a bitch and telling to "stop" because you fucked with the wrong "niggerish" and SURGICAL motherfucka!

(See VOX - May 17, 2005 09:37 AM.... same thread.)

Question: WHY WERE YOU CALLING MY NAME??
............. LIKE A BITCH??? sck

Please Note: You ain't the first ho I turned out. And, yes, just like you they all like to say "stop it".... with your crybaby ass!

But, let's talk about BLACKNESS... or SUPPORTING BLACK LEADERS (Leading Blacks) or any of the weak as topics (your opinions in them that is) that you had leave with the quickness because I exposed you yet even quicker.

Or you could link us to a White Supremacists site as you look for a source. Or you could tell us how you had one of those White Supremacists source but didn't or were reluctant to produce a source, a Black source in that fate and duly noted, linked thread above.

How about that IRONHORSE?

Or what about some more of your patented, self-conscious HOUSE NIGGER reflections?
You know, Nmaginate, like I said before--you need a dick in your mouth to calm you down--get the edge off. You say I keep calling your name but you appear everytime your name does appear--you show up like Beetle Juice or Rumplstillskin.

Everytime you think you have something on me, you pop up out of nowhere to prove your mentally ill point. All of these repressed, homosexual, stalker desires are making you very suspect.

Since the first day I've been on this site, I may have reciprocated insults but I've never initiated any insults. Every single person that has initiated insults, completely unprovoked, in the begining, Vox, MBM, James Chester, Oshun, HeruStar, LibDem, and Kevin41 have all ceased their slanderous actions. Whether they chose to be pretentious, pompous, and conceited and ignore my threads or whatever the case may be, their insults have stopped.

You, Nmaginate, are the only loser that consistently either tries to instigate an argument between myself and another person or you have to try to initiate an argument yourself. It was okay to exchange insults in the begining but, damn, that shit got old, and you keep on coming like a retarded, autistic, obsessive compulsive, downsyndrome kid. Everybody knows you can throw insults and curse--everybody knows I can throw insults and curse. The point has been proven now move the fuck on.

Get a damn life, Nmaginate.

You don't even interact in positive, constructive discussions--you just lurk around and pick somebody to aggrevate, antagonize, and annoy like MBM is going to give you some kind of asshole merit badge. You seriously need to grow the fuck up.
Iron House
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Until you decide you want to do something about yourselves and your immediate environment--instead of being self-absorbed and looking for someone else to blame for what you should be responsible for--Mainstream America will continue to follow through with it`s plan to leave black America behind--replace it`s diminishing caucasian numbers with sprawling Asians, outsource employment to foriegn laborers and tie up loose ends with the aid of the lower class hispanics and their cheap labor.


--prophecy fullfilled....!
--black people ["are"] very crab-hearted. a trait that will destroy us from within....

Fine

PS An alternative? --
http://mp3.rbnlive.com/Whalen/0511/20051110_Thu_FrankWhalen4.mp3 -- also posted on African Diaspora: How Black Leaders Exploit Blaq America....
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