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Admittedly, I know little about the objectives and goals of this organization, United Nation of Islam (U.N.O.I.), but its members seem to be adamant about differentiating themselves from the Nation of Islam. Their "system of knowledge" relies on the assurance that everything in life can be "proven" using what they describe as "right thinking" or "mathematical thinking." While I support their intentions on building a nation in the state of Kansas which includes a separate school system, grocery stores, barber and beauty shops, University facilities, restaurants, etc, all owned, managed, and operated by African Americans, I am in strong disagreement with their epistemology (or their understanding of how knowledge is acquired) and especially the idea that spirituality, or as they would describe, "a way of life," is limited to "showing and proving." In fact, I recently had a debate with two brothers representing this organization who both insist that I attend one of their "mathematical thinking" classes. I told them that what's ironic is that while the members of your organization seek to separate yourselves from Western ideals and Western thought and behavior, your entire system of knowledge is based on Western conceptions of knowledge and understanding, especially in regards to believing everything in the universe has to be tangible, observable, measurable (mathematically) and "scientifically proven" for it to be valid. Sadly, these people seem to not only be ignorant and/or in denial about their inherently Western belief system, but they have absolutely no interest in traditional African religions or fashioning their "way of life" after traditional African religions, because "nothing in the African religion can be proven." Clearly, there isn't a hint of spirituality in this "way of life," and way too much attention is paid to having so-called "right and exact knowledge." So I was wondering if anyone here knows enough about the organization to critique and/or correct my understanding of this organization's view of knowledge? Perhaps someone who is a representative of this organization can challenge my assertions?
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Originally posted by Rowe:
Admittedly, I know little about the objectives and goals of this organization, United Nation of Islam (U.N.O.I.), but its members seem to be adamant about differentiating themselves from the Nation of Islam. Their "system of knowledge" relies on the assurance that everything in life can be "proven" using what they describe as "right thinking" or "mathematical thinking." While I support their intentions on building a nation in the state of Kansas which includes a separate school system, grocery stores, barber and beauty shops, University facilities, restaurants, etc, all owned, managed, and operated by African Americans, I am in strong disagreement with their epistemology (or their understanding of how knowledge is acquired) and especially the idea that spirituality, or as they would describe, "a way of life," is limited to "showing and proving." In fact, I recently had a debate with two brothers representing this organization who both insist that I attend one of their "mathematical thinking" classes. I told them that what's ironic is that while the members of your organization seek to separate yourselves from Western ideals and Western thought and behavior, your entire system of knowledge is based on Western conceptions of knowledge and understanding, especially in regards to believing everything in the universe has to be tangible, observable, measurable (mathematically) and "scientifically proven" for it to be valid. Sadly, these people seem to not only be ignorant and/or in denial about their inherently Western belief system, but they have absolutely no interest in traditional African religions or fashioning their "way of life" after traditional African religions, because "nothing in the African religion can be proven." Clearly, there isn't a hint of spirituality in this "way of life," and way too much attention is paid to having so-called "right and exact knowledge." So I was wondering if anyone here knows enough about the organization to critique and/or correct my understanding of this organization's view of knowledge? Perhaps someone who is a representative of this organization can challenge my assertions?


My best friend knows one of the brothers in this organization quite well. From what she told me he was one of the founders. Her critique sounds exactly like yours. I've met some of them, and I would have to agree with everything you said. The main thing I admire is their stance on economic self-determination...but spiritually I also find them lacking.

I don't understand how Islam is any more "provable" than traditional African or an other religions?

I wonder because Islam the religion of the Arab invaders of Africa(I ask the same question of the N.O.I. and they come up with the "African Islam" theory sleep....but I'm sure you know about that...}

Anyhow...the binary system that Ifa uses for divination is the same one used in super computers...but I digress...

Gotta love their and the N.O.I.'s organizational skills though...
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I don't understand how Islam is any more "provable" than traditional African or an other religions? I wonder because Islam the religion of the Arab invaders of Africa(I ask the same question of the N.O.I. and they come up with the "African Islam" theory, but I'm sure you know about that.


They distinguish themselves from all other religions, including traditional African religions, by insisting that their organization is not a religion. As one of the brothers carefully, but defensively, explained to me, "The U.N.O.I. is not a religion sista, its a way of life." A life that recognizes that everything in the universe can be "proven" mathematically. If the concept cannot be proven, then it is false and relies on belief. And as you mentioned, Oshun, they seem to have no regard for the relationship Arabs have had with Africans in the past or how Muslims have invaded and converted nearly all of North Africa's inhabitants to the Muslim faith. And to confront them about this is to receive a bunch of convoluted arguments which ultimately seek to make you think that there is no alternative for the black man: Its either U.N.O.I.'s independently functioning "heaven" or the white man's capitalistic "hell." After I showed both of them up and revealed the many pitfalls in their reasoning, one of the brothas finally admitted that the organization's knowledge system and methods were not perfect. And after stating that "the bible says every man is entitled to seven wives," I had to handle that statement as well...They tried to recruit the wrong person that day.
Believing that everything can be proven mathematically is not unique to the UNOI, this belief is based in science. I am sure when they conclude that everything can be proven mathematically they are not talking ones and zero's. The UNOI while separate from the NOI still believe that Elijah Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah; however they believe that Allah has reappeared in the person of Solomon, their leader. One of the things that Elijah Muhammad taught is that "Islam is Mathematics and Mathematics is Islam, it is true, You can always prove it at no limit of time" thus when they speak about everything can be proven through mathematics you must understand they are not strictly referring to it being able to be proven using numbers, they are also saying that universal order should support ones beliefs.

It appear that these brothers you spoke with have yet to ascertain that one does not have to believe as they believe to be a helper in the cause of Allah or a helper of Black men and women in America. Far too many Black folk are simply looking to raise the number of those who believe as they do without actually making sure that what they believe works for that man or woman. If one has a belief system and it works for him and his family and it does not work against Black upward mobility, why should one seek to change their belief system in regards to religion? So many of us still fail to realize that religion is an internal divisive tool, that blinds Black folk to the external tool that continue to hinder our upward mobility and that is Race. Only a fool will choose a religion over his people.
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It appear that these brothers you spoke with have yet to ascertain that one does not have to believe as they believe to be a helper in the cause of Allah or a helper of Black men and women in America. Far too many Black folk are simply looking to raise the number of those who believe as they do without actually making sure that what they believe works for that man or woman. If one has a belief system and it works for him and his family and it does not work against Black upward mobility, why should one seek to change their belief system in regards to religion? So many of us still fail to realize that religion is an internal divisive tool, that blinds Black folk to the external tool that continue to hinder our upward mobility and that is Race. Only a fool will choose a religion over his people.


Good point. I think that this is a legacy of colonial domination. Since forced assimilation to a colonizer's/enslavers/oppressors religion and culture happenned to us...many of us repeat this action towards each other when we think we have "found" or "have" the "one and only true way" ... Not realizing that truth is subjective and spirituality/religion is inherantly not a "one size fits all" kind of thing since all spiritual expressions develop out of specific cultures and specific circumstances, for the specific needs of different peoples. Making one no more "tyhe only way" than the other for all...unless of course one is specifically designed to, or unintentionally causing harm to said people.

What you said reminded me of something I read earlier today...
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WHEN RELIGIOUS CONCERNS BECOME MORE IMPORTANT THAN YOUR HUMAN RIGHTS
(taken from a yet unpublished book)

CHAPTER ONE:
SO BROKEN IN SPIRIT THAT YOU BELIEVE YOUR RIGHTS ARE WRONG


When a people have been robbed of everything, brutalized, dehumanized, and stripped of their fundamental human rights for centuries, they may become so accustomed to the sight of their stifled humanity hanging from the tree of injustice, that it eventually becomes normal, natural, and acceptable.

This is not surprising, because such a history of fear and terrorism has the potential to subdue and domesticate any species, even to the extent that their future generations may be characterized by a weak and broken will, and a docile mentality.

Just like the animal who has similarly undergone CENTURIES OF DOMESTICATION, such people may become so broken and subdued that they would accept the hopelessness of cage-life, and subconsciously see themselves as eternal losers in an irreversible drama.

Everyone who is an inheritor of this history should do a self-check to search for the deep-down belief that the injustice done to Africa is an irreversible drama in which Blacks are eternal losers. Where there is evidence of inaction and indifference towards the cause of Reparations, there is proof that the feeling of being an eternal loser is firmly stamped in one's psyche.

Afflicted by enforced amnesia which has left only a vague idea of the ordeal that they have gone through, slave-descendants will hardly understand its long-term consequences. They may therefore remain indifferent and apathetic as their rights continue to be made to seem wrong, and lose the confidence to even speak of Reparations, far less agitate for it.

The long feeling of powerlessness, hopelessness, vulnerable dependency, fear, and inferiority, can even shrink the slave's SELF-ESTEEM to the point that he himself would believe that his rights are wrong, and that The Robber's wrong version of rights is correct.

This easily happens when your self-esteem has been beaten down to zero, and The Robber's opinion has the blessing of "the authorities" and the backing of the much feared "law." Against such psychological odds, the idea of Reparations is bound to seem hopeless and ridiculous.

It is inevitable that after so many generations of dehumanization and domestication, a new mind-set would have been formed, for that is what domestication of a species is supposed to achieve....an entirely new docile and controllable mind-set. After such a long period of systematic breaking-in, the brave warrior who would fiercely stand up for his rights would only be found in the museum, and in the dusty pages of some history book, but never on the modern plantation.

What would have evolved on the modern plantation is an apathetic Negro who firmly believes that he is an eternal loser beyond hope of ever regaining his stolen inheritance. This sick condition is very much in evidence when religious debate takes precedence over the human rights debate on the modern plantation.

Having been reshaped by the tools of domestication, it is more than likely that the Negro's head would have swapped places with his belly and genitals, and his dominant passion would be food, fun and sex...or religion. The realization that he has a responsibility to the coming generations to reclaim his stolen inheritance will not dawn on the Negro, because he has been sapped of his self confidence by centuries of terrorism and domestication. He would have developed a narrow short-term view on life that goes no farther than the scramble for crumbs, and in the most crucial of times when his ship is sinking, the Negro would be joking, sporting, overeating, over-screwing or arguing about religion. Rather than take to the battle field in pursuit of his rights, the Negro will furtively seek "a safe place" in the hope that when the battle for his human rights is over, OTHERS will have secured for him a safe inheritance.

Such is the effect of the breaking-in process on the Negro that he is the least concerned about the importance of his own humanity. He has become so accustomed to living without it that to him the term now sounds like an abstract luxury that he cannot afford. If the Negro really knew the long-term implications of his history, he would overstand that the only place where he can discard the idea of Reparations is in the same dustbin where he is unwittingly throwing away his offspring's prospects for a better life complete with their restored humanity.

Most of us who have passed through the loins of this slave-breaking process can see, if we only open our eyes, how it works to this very day, pressuring us to abandon our manhood, pressuring us to abandon our self respect and our nobility, pressuring us to abandon our sense of group solidarity, pressuring us to spy on one another, pressuring us to sell out one another, pressuring us to conform to the pre-designed inferior role of Negro-hood.

What therefore are the consequences for a people who have been broken-in and stripped of their humanity to the point where they have lost all confidence in self?

The consequences are tragic. Loss of trust and confidence in self equals loss of trust and confidence in your mother, your father, your brother, and your race. It also equals loss of trust and confidence in your own God, and ultimately loss of trust and confidence in the cause of justice. It could be said of such people: Their God has been imprisoned.

A BROKEN PEOPLE are never able to muster the ambition, the hunger, the drive, the focus, the commitment, the determination, the self-belief, and the self discipline that it would take to establish their rights on earth. As long as they remain locked down in this spiritual coma, their stay on earth will always be dependent on the permission of those who see themselves as "The Owners." They will always find themselves on election-day having to choose between the Devil and Satan.

If one were to venture into the inner sanctuaries of such people one would see sitting in the centre, an idol of the white slave-master with a dollar bill sign stuck to its forehead while holding in its hand the rod of individualism. In the lap of this idol one will also see the spirit of confusion dressed in the garments of religion. These are the evil entities that prevent cohesion and maintain a permanent state of distraction.

Ras Jahaziel

www.rastafarivisions.com
That Oshun is powerful and I can definetly use some of what this brother said in a piece I am preparing for my blog. Can the brother who wrote that be contacted via the site you posted? Apparantly that site is using a web hosting company that is blocked by our firewall here at work.

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The long feeling of powerlessness, hopelessness, vulnerable dependency, fear, and inferiority, can even shrink the slave's SELF-ESTEEM to the point that he himself would believe that his rights are wrong, and that The Robber's wrong version of rights is correct. ]


This sentence explains so much and is at the root of what I believe drives the Negro-Con to behave as he and she do when accepting the policies and idea's of the Republican party.

Having been a part of the Muslim community I know first hand the tunnel vision that has a strangle hold on Muslims of all branches, be they NOI, UNOI, Sunni, Bilalian etc.. Men and women that are deeply rooted in their religious organizations are incapable of seing what I have said and what this brother in the piece has said as the truth as long as they are sheltered in their religious beliefs.
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Originally posted by Faheem:
That Oshun is powerful and I can definetly use some of what this brother said in a piece I am preparing for my blog. Can the brother who wrote that be contacted via the site you posted? Apparantly that site is using a web hosting company that is blocked by our firewall here at work.


Here you go...

jahpaint@aol.com

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Having been a part of the Muslim community I know first hand the tunnel vision that has a strangle hold on Muslims of all branches, be they NOI, UNOI, Sunni, Bilalian etc.. Men and women that are deeply rooted in their religious organizations are incapable of seing what I have said and what this brother in the piece has said as the truth as long as they are sheltered in their religious beliefs.


Honestly,

All "religions" tend to do this to our people, or rather, our people tend to allow their religions/spiritual beleifs to shelter them. Even in the Ifa community...locally that is...I see the same thing. It was much worse in the Kemetic community. Many tend to let their religious communities shelter them from our circumstances, rather than fuel the fire to change them.

I can't tell you how many times I've tried to get Kemetic & Orisha spiritualists to participate in political activites to no avail.

We were some lonely Africans at the Iraq war protests, about 29 of us in a crowd of 2500 folks(and that's a huge attendance for Dallas TX). One Babalawo showed, a Rasta, and a few other Anarchists and Afro-centrists I know, but none of the local NOI chapters...which was dissapointing...but I'm not in LA anymore...

It's getting better. I think some people are realizing we need an African United Front, and that we need to put our religions in the closet, and come together for all of our benefit.
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Originally posted by Faheem:
Believing that everything can be proven mathematically is not unique to the UNOI, this belief is based in science.


Precisely. This is why I made the following statement in my opening arguments: I told them, what's ironic is that while the members of your organization seek to separate yourselves from Western ideals and Western thought and behavior, your entire system of knowledge is based on Western conceptions of knowledge and understanding, especially in regards to believing everything in the universe has to be tangible, observable, measurable (mathematically) and "scientifically proven" for it to be valid. Though African people are the creators of science and mathematics, so much of what people understand as science today has to with how early Greek philosophers, such as Plato, defined science. And we know that historically, Europeans have always had problems with defining spirituality and an even greater problem with ambiguity. They seem to think that the world can be neatly divided into opposing opposites (e.g., true/not true, black/white, right/wrong, sin/holy). These are called dualities. But indigenous people (that is, people of color, the world's majority) have a very different view of the world. They know that the universe is alot more complex and three-dimensional than Western man, whose understanding is limited to science, facts, ration, and logic, can possibly fathom. Therefore, everything in our world cannot be scientifically proven as Western man and his "scientology" and "scientific method" would have us, and those under his influence, to believe. What I have explained here, thus far, is basically what I was trying to explain to those two clowns representing the U.N.O.I. who simply refused to accept what they were hearing.

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Far too many Black folk are simply looking to raise the number of those who believe as they do without actually making sure that what they believe works for that man or woman.


I agree. However, supporters of U.N.O.I. would argue that considering the state of African Americans today, black people cannot afford to think individualistically. Therefore, there must be some consensus on how we are going to represent ourselves collectively. If we are preoccupied with figuring out what works for "that man" and "that woman," we risk losing and securing our vision, our primary goal, or the U.N.O.I.'s primary goal, which is "national building." That is, building a civilization that is completely independent. This is the argument that these people use to attract supporters and recruit people into their organization. Because, afterall, what black person isn't looking for an alternative to this society?
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Originally posted by ulimo:
Please allow me contribute these few items to the mix?

"REVOLUTION By The Book(the Rap is Live)" by Imam Jamill el-Amin [Rap Brown]:
http://store.talkislam.com/b6162.html

FACT-SHEET on His Life:
www.jamiat.org.za/whatsnew/imamjamil.html


The link states...

The mission of a believer in Islam is totally different from coexisting or being the part of the system. The prevailing morals are wrong. Their ethics are wrong. Western philosophy... has reduced man to food, clothing, shelter, and the sex drive, which means he doesn't have a spirit... Successful struggle requires a Divine Program. Allah has provided that program.

Islam does not dominate this...It is not the only spiritual system that is non-complacent with "the system".
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Originally posted by ulimo:
Chapter 22:17 of Ulimo's Mentality reads:
"Those who are Jews, Sabeans, Christians, and Magians...Allah will judge you on Resurrection Day. Because I'm a nut and I use the Koran as a justification for my religious bigotry and ignorance. And though I seek to distinguish my philosophy, values, and beliefs from those belonging to the white man, I'm just as guilty for being a bigot against those who believe differently than I. I fail to realize this however, because I'm dogmatically conditioned and blinded by foolish and useless truth-claiming. Life is all about me and what I believe. And anyone who believes differently will surely be judged by Allah."


Well, unlike Heru, Ulimo I'm glad that you at least admit your faults. But what month is this? "Religious Looney Month?" Have all the religious extremists decided to join the forum at the same time Confused.
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Originally posted by ulimo:
Chapter 22:17 of Ulimo's Mentality reads:
"Those who are Jews, Sabeans, Christians, and Magians...Allah will judge you on Resurrection Day. Because I'm a nut and I use the Koran as a justification for my religious bigotry and ignorance. And though I seek to distinguish my philosophy, values, and beliefs from those belonging to the white man, I'm just as guilty for being a bigot against those who believe differently than I. I fail to realize this however, because I'm dogmatically conditioned and blinded by foolish and useless truth-claiming. Life is all about me and what I believe and anyone who believes differently will surely be judged by Allah."


Well, unlike Heru, Ulimo I'm glad that you at least admit your faults. But what month is this? "Religious Looney Month?" Have all the religious extremists decided to join the forum at the same time Confused.


Beautiful
Peace....

Greetings to all. I am Whirling Moat, a Fruit of Islam in the Nation Of Islam, under the direction of The Honorable Louis Farrakhan Muhammad, the appointed National Representative of The Honorable Elijah Muhammad.

The UNOI members are my brothers and sisters, and I respect whatever good they are able to accomplish, however, I do not wish for anyone to become confused and think that these brothers and sisters represent the NOI as it is properly established in the West. The Honorable Elijah Muhammad was raised by Master Fard Muhammad to assemble an army of like minds to raise the mentally dead nation of black people enslaved in the Hells of North America. This army has a proper chain of command. this chain began with Allah, it goes through His Messenger, and then to the Representative of the Messenger. Anyone falling out of the chain is not a memberin Good standings.

There are many people who have refused to rejoin the ranks of Muhammad under the Commission of The Honorable Louis Farrakhan. While this is unfortunate, it was prophecized that such would be the case.

The believers must grow to a proper understanding of the time and that which is required.

The uninitiated must come to understand that Islam is not an arab religion. There is no such thing as an Arab who is not at the root a person from the place that is called "Africa". The Arab is a mixture of the people of Kush and foreign invaders of Germanic descendancy. Islam is our way. Islam is the same system as Maat.

The name Muhammad means one in submission to the Will of Allah. within the name Muhammad, or Mehmet, you have the word Ma(d) or Met, or Maat. One in submission to the Maat the feminine aspect of the Creative power of the Neteru.

Islam is related to the word Salaam, which means peace. Maat also means peace at its root.

The time dictates that we lose what we have been taught by our opressors, and learn ourselves.

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Whirling Moat
Slight correction.

Maat is the deity that sets the standard for how one's actions is measured against Truth. She also sets the standards for the other deities. The greeks Athena is a generic replica of Maat because Maat is law and justice. When merged with her perfect compliment Tehuti(wisdom) she represents Universal Order.

<--The eye which you see here is sometimes referred to as the eye or Ra or the Daughter of Ra which is Maat. Although I use it to represent the eye of Heru.

I know little about Islam, I do believe that they oppress there women more than any other religion. That's why I guess I'm confused with why you would say that Muhammad is in submission to a femal deity. If he was then wouldn't there be priestess that hold a higher status in your chain of command?
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Slight correction.


I know little about Islam, I do believe that they oppress there women more than any other religion.


Peace and Blessings,

Islam does not oppress women. What causes the oppression of women is abusive men, in any religion, as well as those women who choose to accept the rule of abusive men. I hope this distinction will be recognized.

Peace,
Virtue

Peace,
Khalliqa
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Originally posted by HeruStar:
Slight correction.


I know little about Islam, I do believe that they oppress there women more than any other religion.


Peace and Blessings,

Islam does not oppress women. What causes the oppression of women is abusive men, in any religion, as well as those women who choose to accept the rule of abusive men. I hope this distinction will be recognized.

Peace,
Virtue

Peace,
Khalliqa

There are a whole host of Muslim women who will disagree vehemently with you on this issue about Islam. Are you familiar with the work of Nawal El Saadawi?

In this thread, I also think that it is important to note that UNOI and the NOI have really nothing to do with 'orthodox' Islam, expressions of Islam.
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In this thread, I also think that it is important to note that UNOI and the NOI have really nothing to do with 'orthodox' Islam, expressions of Islam.


Peace and Blessings Kresge,

I am vaguely familiar with the name. However, I must say that many Muslim women also agree with the above sentiment as well. There are many debates in Islam....depending on your values and interpretations will determine where you stand. Based off of my understanding of Islam, this is where I stand. But, I did not wish to argue points of disagreement. I just simply made a distinction between the two terms as I see it.

I agree with you that U.N.O.I and N.O.I in many ways do not share the same interpretation of Islam. Another point of disagreement based off of one's emphasis and values in Islam as well.

Peace,
Virtue

***Please forgive the quote box. I tried to include and address your entire quote separately and did not perform the execution well.****
Peace....

"Sorry I forgot to mention one of Maat's most important attributes....
Balance"-Heru Star
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Balance is one of the primary attributes Of Maat. Balance and peace are the same condition if one understands properly.

This is why I said at the "Root" Maat means Peace.

I have never implied that Muhammad worshipped a feminine deity...It is a mistake to look at the Neteru as individual Gods. The Ntrw represent aspect of a single power which expresses itself as the various forms of the Ntrw. Allah can mean All Law. the unification of the expressions which some may view as individual Gods.

In Islam, as taught by The Honorable Elijah Muhammad, the Moon represents Equality. The Moon has a very special relationship to balance. Djhuty is represented as the Ntr of the Moon in some instances, he is the consort of Maat. they Go hand in hand.

What i wish for those who do not know Islam to understand is that the Arab world received a portion of the wisdom of Allah. They received what Allah chose for them to receive. There is much more to Islam than what they have.

Islam does not teach abuse of women. Islam teaches the man to uplift the women. The arab may be guilty of mishandling his women, however this is not the fault of Islam, this is the failing of those who go away from Islam.

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Whirling Moat
I did not call her a god. I called her a deity.

A person claiming to be in submission to Maat is claiming that they have fulfilled the sixth stage of initiation. They are proclaiming that they are Maa Kheru (true of voice), thus able to be trusted with the use of spiritual powers. They are also claiming to think cosmogonically, sychronistically, and holistically. Thus putting them in oracle status.

I saw the movie Malcolm X, and the honorable Elijah Muhammad doesn't seem like an oracle that can be trusted.
Peace....

"I saw the movie Malcolm X, and the honorable Elijah Muhammad doesn't seem like an oracle that can be trusted"-Heru Star
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Heru Star, I am sure that you realize that you will never get a proper perspective of a man by watching a film about him produced in Hollywood.

There are many who judge The Honorable Elijah Muhammad as being in error. I ask these judges for the codified law by which His actions are being judged.

Many of us consider ourselves to be Afrocentric, however, we still see the world from the Eurocentric point of view. Judge The Honorable Elijah Muhammad against the tradition of the Messengers and Prophets of the past, and then tell us where he was in error.

The Fruit Of Islam

Whirling Moat

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