Unfortunately  many Black people do not consider environmental as apart of Black struggles.  The relationship of Black people to the planet is incredibly important.

 

*I'd suggest keeping this brothers name in memory since his work (among other things) shows a strong link between the introduction of a chemical into the environment and sexual mutations (including homosexual activity) in the affected subjects.

 

 

 

 

Silencing the Scientist: Tyrone Hayes on Being Targeted by Herbicide Firm Syngenta

 

 

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Yes, good point, yes, look around, critically expand horizons; these are issues to focus on. Globalization has happened and we need to think globally about everything, business and. the environment too.  This is today’s soulless corporate world. We need to know where we are and deal with things  in this new world. As for  Syngenta, it is just like the devilish Monsanto. 

I've been trying to point that fact ["environmental as apart of Black struggles"] out to so many people, but of course, it falls on deaf ears in most cases, since it does not involve some material possession, the latest Nikes, or dismissing the history of the Black race.  

Also, do you notice what he is saying about 'estrogen', yet, no one questions why SO MANY people now claim to be or are GAY. I do not dispute that some people are really born Gay, but I think that just as much or more homosexuality is environmentally/artificially induced to begin with by the saturation of toxins that reek hormonal havoc on human genes.  I'll go even further, and suggest that it probably has a lot to do with why so many men today obviously have the mentality of women, and I'm not talking about Gay men.  

  That's an interesting perspective my sista!  I think you are on to something there.    I really do.  And I am a strong believer that homosexuality is not genetic or a person is BORN that way.  So as you alluded, there are so many men "thinking" like women...this could very well be environmental.  Although I feel a little insulted when men call other men feminine when they don't act so called macho.  It is not a crime or deformity to be a WOMAN.  They really need to use another example of NOT being a man or come up with something that depict their "strange" behavior without devaluing women to do it.  Cuz if we were soooooo bad?  Why is half our population either chasing us or trying to be us?  But!.  

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Originally Posted by sunnubian:

Also, do you notice what he is saying about 'estrogen', yet, no one question why SO MANY people now claim to be or are GAY. I do not dispute that some people are really born Gay, but I think that just as much or more homosexuality is environmentally/artificially induced to begin with by the saturation of toxins that reek hormonal havoc on human genes.  I'll go even further, and suggest that it probably has a lot to do with so many men today obviously having the mentality of women, and I'm not talking about Gay men.  

 

 

He goes more into detail on his experiments here.  Although he isn't making an argument one way or another, its clear that there he (and other scientist) have published material that raises the question between the introduction of toxins to our environment and sexual behavior/inclinations.  This is an aspect of homosexuality that most of those activist do not want to discuss.  Depending on how they argue in favor of the normality of homosexuality, his research cast doubt on that framing. 

 

Originally Posted by Muhammad Cipher:
Originally Posted by sunnubian:

Also, do you notice what he is saying about 'estrogen', yet, no one question why SO MANY people now claim to be or are GAY. I do not dispute that some people are really born Gay, but I think that just as much or more homosexuality is environmentally/artificially induced to begin with by the saturation of toxins that reek hormonal havoc on human genes.  I'll go even further, and suggest that it probably has a lot to do with so many men today obviously having the mentality of women, and I'm not talking about Gay men.  

 

 

He goes more into detail on his experiments here.  Although he isn't making an argument one way or another, its clear that there he (and other scientist) have published material that raises the question between the introduction of toxins to our environment and sexual behavior/inclinations.  This is an aspect of homosexuality that most of those activist do not want to discuss.  Depending on how they argue in favor of the normality of homosexuality, his research cast doubt on that framing. 

 

Will estrogen supposedly increase the number of gay males and decrease the number of lesbians?  

But if your theory was correct, you could dial in sexual preferences by increasing or subtracting testosterone or estrogen. Are you framing the issue according to some religious party line? My sense is . . leave 'em alone.

Originally Posted by DennisKalita:

But if your theory was correct, you could dial in sexual preferences by increasing or subtracting testosterone or estrogen. Are you framing the issue according to some religious party line? My sense is . . leave 'em alone.

I don't know if you're directing your comments toward me as I have not advanced any "theory"  on this issue.  I've only raised questions that arise out of this (and other research) that creates an issue for the normalization of homosexuality predicated on the idea that it is a naturally occurring event. 

 

Contrary to popular belief there is not uniformity arguments concerning homosexuality among homosexuals.  I suggested keeping an eye on this brother and his work since he is clearly describing this as a "sexual abnormality".   His work does not directly comment one way or another about the political issue directly but the implication is unavoidable, ie chemicals being introduced that has an impact on reproductive systems up to an including various cancers.

 

 

Interestingly enough Dick Gregory has been on of the most vocal (NOI teachings notwithstanding) in terms of getting people to pay attention to the chemicals being introduced into the food and water supply.    

  I have to say this however....the history of HOMOSEXUALITY is a European/Asian thang.  Going allllllll the way back before African contact.  So ummmmm this current science is NOT sounding convincing to me in the least unless homeboy can EXPLAIN the history of homosexuality in Greece, Rome and the Middle East...thousands of years prior to the industrial age.  I'm just sayin.  But!  .  

Originally Posted by Kocolicious:

  I have to say this however....the history of HOMOSEXUALITY is a European/Asian thang.  Going allllllll the way back before African contact.  So ummmmm this current science is NOT sounding convincing to me in the least unless homeboy can EXPLAIN the history of homosexuality in Greece, Rome and the Middle East...thousands of years prior to the industrial age.  I'm just sayin.  But!  .  

 

I don't think he is making any direct claims about homosexuality one way or the other, [though I may needs to view the second video and other of his], but is trying to explain the hormonal and gene altering effects of such chemicals.  

 

It has been mentioned how much of these chemicals are found in the water that people in Uganda drink, use to cook with and bath in, and coincidentally, Uganda is an African country that is now experiencing what seems to be a surge in homosexuality.  

 

 

Sista Sunnubian wrote:  

I don't think he is making any direct claims about homosexuality one way or the other, [though I may needs to view the second video and other of his], but is trying to explain the hormonal and gene altering effects of such chemicals.  

 

 

  I understand.  I am NOT dismissing their findings in regards to the reaction chemicals can have on unborn children.  Not at all.

 

It has been mentioned how much of these chemicals are found in the water that people in Uganda drink, use to cook with and bath in, and coincidentally, Uganda is an African country that is now experiencing what seems to be a surge in homosexuality.  

 

But I don't buy it.  Mainly cuz homosexuality is NOT a new mindset. And I think the reason for the upsurge in Uganda has to be MORE than merely environmental...although I am not ruling it out per se but I am not convinced that "chemicals" can alter physical attraction in humans.  That would be a type of altered state phenomena.. and I'm not saying that chemicals can't alter physical deformities in humans.. cuz I know they can.  

 

However, I do believe that this upsurge of homosexuality in Uganda could be a result of passed wars and civil unrest in the country's history. Usually during war time male soldiers turn to each other for sexual release-that's historical. And women who are left without male companions can also turn to each other.  Additionally, we just can't dismiss Uganda's participation in forced sex-slaves and child soldiers during their social crisis...and we definitely can't forget about that crazy ass Idi Amin's involvement in the decline of Uganda after its freedom from British control.  So it's all type of SOCIAL factors to consider in regards to WHY homosexuality in that country has increased.  Plus in my eyes, Uganda is still a young country in terms of being exposed to the outside world- that is being a part of the Scramble to Africa trend that occurred in the late 1800s.  We just don't KNOW what the hell massa was doing to those people.  We've heard about Leonardo in the Congo and the atrocities he committed against innocent Africans that they will talk about...right?  But there a lot of things we don't know that happened.   So..any type of social and emotional trauma could convince the next generation of tortured people to start rethinking differently about how they wanna live their lives.  We just don't know.

 

But to get back on point in reference to chemicals affecting unborn children, back in the day when I was studying human development, a professor stated that the "y" chromosome in the male are in fact or may be in fact be an incomplete "x." Which can be seen as a deformity in some cases except for the "fact" that this "y" has 23 chromosomes to contribute in creating human life and determining gender.  However, it MUST be a reason for this "y" being looked upon as incomplete which has to partner with the "x" to make it a complete system. This is a human code that only the universe knows how to crack. Us humans are pulling at straws.

 

So for me?  I just think that it's pretty premature to even POINT in that direction in terms of assuming chemicals may be have an input or impact on what TURNS a person on sexuality.  I see it as a bit of a stretch. Next, they i.e. these experts based on their closed system findings are gonna probably say that "people being saturated with an unknown agent in food" will most likely be attracted sexually to animals.  Making this chemical claim [pertaining to homosexuality] is simply "junk science" until of course solid proof and evidence can justify it.  In my view, science conjecture has no place in human development.  We have enough social PROBLEMS trying to live together in peace and cultural acceptance.    But!      

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