Torri Hunter

Along with his ability to hit a baseball and play center field, Torii Hunter(notes) made a big name for himself by being a likable guy and dropping a few jokes and laughs around the ballpark he plays in.

But after Hunter's recent comments on race in baseball, his presence may be greeted with a few less smiles.

While participating in USA Today's roundtable on the state of baseball, Hunter floated a theory that baseball uses dark-skinned players from countries like the Dominican Republic, Puerto Rico and Venezuela to give an appearance that it has more African-Americans playing the game than it really does.

But, Hunter says in a controversial money quote, "they're not us, they're impostors."

Here's more from Hunter in the USA Today:

"As African-American players, we have a theory that baseball can go get an imitator and pass them off as us," Hunter says. "It's like they had to get some kind of dark faces, so they go to the Dominican or Venezuela because you can get them cheaper. It's like, 'Why should I get this kid from the South Side of Chicago and have Scott Boras represent him and pay him $5 million when you can get a Dominican guy for a bag of chips?' ...  I'm telling you, it's sad."

Hunter has long been a very vocal advocate of increased African-American participation in baseball and his voice is a valuable one. Normally it is very respected.

But as Hardball Talk's Craig Calcaterra astutely points out, this was a terrible and illogical way to advance the fight. Baseball fans, on the whole, want to see the best talent on the field as possible and it doesn't matter to us what color is under the cap. The talent always rises to the top and gets paid accordingly as top African-American players like CC Sabathia(notes), Ryan Howard(notes) and even Hunter himself can attest. 

And it's that talent that earns big paychecks doled out in the only color that really matters in baseball — green. Twelve of the 25 highest salaries in 2009 were paid to Latino players born in other countries, which debunks Hunter's assertion those players will work for cut-rate pay.

Scapegoating Dominicans and Venezuelans and hinting at some larger conspiracy isn't the way to go, not when there are larger societal issues to address in why African-Americans — and all Americans, really — aren't playing the game as much as before.

To be fair, Hunter and his other panel members discussed these oft-repeated factors and suggested a few solutions of their own. I think Hunter's biggest bone of contention would come in major league teams spending millions of dollars on training facilities in foreign lands while spending a fraction of the money on their smaller RBI program in urban America.

I respect Hunter's wish that others who come from a poor background (like he did) are shown that baseball is a very possible and profitable path. It's a complicated situation that baseball should devote more resources to figuring out.

But the direction that Hunter took his argument just resulted in a colossal misstep. How is he going to play in the same Angels outfield this season with two guys — Juan Rivera(notes) and Bobby Abreu(notes) — that he just labeled impostors? A further explanation or apology is in order.,227175

Hunter was wrong, but had valid point

OK, Torii Hunter said something really stupid. Something unacceptable, something indefensible, something he now must live with. He should have chosen his words more carefully, and judging from his subsequent comments to an Angels-sponsored blog, he knows it.

But let’s not miss the point.

The point is that baseball, despite a slight uptick from 2007 to ‘08, is still not attracting enough African-American athletes — and maybe not enough American athletes, period.

Hunter, when he called Latino players “impostors” for African- Americans in a USA Today roundtable, was speaking more out of frustration than malice.

That does not excuse his remark, much as everyone loves Hunter and understands that his actions toward people of all backgrounds speak far louder than his words. But let’s skip the usual rush to PC judgment, the shrill, predictable reaction.

Hunter was wrong. And Hunter is right.

The percentage of African-American players increased to 10.2 percent in 2008, according to the University of Central Florida’s Institute for Diversity and Ethics in Sports — up from an 8.2 percent in ’07, the lowest level in the more than 20 years of the study.

Still, a glance at several projected Opening Day rosters reveals some disturbing snapshots:

• The Cardinals, the team of Bob Gibson and Lou Brock, will be without an African-American.

• The Braves, the team of Hank Aaron, will feature an African-American only if rookie outfielder Jason Heyward and/or non-roster infielder Joe Thurston make the club.

• The Mets’ only African-American will be outfielder Gary Matthews Jr., a player they recently acquired in a trade.

• The Tigers could be without an African-American if they fail to keep outfielder Austin Jackson or left-hander Dontrelle Willis.

• The White Sox and Marlins, teams with African-American general managers, will each have only one African-American player — outfielder Juan Pierre for the White Sox and outfielder Cameron Maybin for the Marlins.

These teams are not racist; they are looking for the best players. As Red Sox outfielder Mike Cameron, an African-American, recently told me, “Different teams go through stages where they have more or less African-American players on their roster. With only about nine percent in the league, it’s going to happen.”

But therein lies the problem.

One point from the USA Today roundtable deserves more attention than Hunter’s comments: The low number of baseball scholarships — 11.7 per season — permitted for each Division I team.

The scholarship limit in football is 85. In basketball, it’s 13 — and a basketball team uses only five players at a time.

On the other hand, football and basketball are revenue-producing sports and baseball is not.

“The colleges have corrupted baseball because they’ve taken away the scholarships,” agent Scott Boras said during the roundtable. “They’ve taken away America’s pastime from the grassroots level of homes.”

The trend is just the opposite on the international market, where teams sign large numbers of Latin players inexpensively because such players are not subject to the amateur draft.

The worldwide draft, a principal goal of commissioner Bud Selig in the next collective-bargaining discussions, would help change that dynamic, even though teams still could sign scores of undrafted Latin players cheaply.

But how about fixing the problem at home?

Baseball players rarely even command full scholarships; Rays left-hander David Price, the No. 1 pick in the 2007 draft, was on a partial scholarship at Vanderbilt, according to his coach, Tim Corbin.

Football and basketball offer more immediate gratification than baseball; players in those sports jump right from college to the pros.

Baseball cannot compete unless it partners with the NCAA, creating more scholarships and increasing the role of the college game.

A major-league pitching coach recently sent me an e-mail on this very topic, even outlining a plan for the NCAA to shift to a summer schedule and 12-month academic year for baseball, with colleges becoming more a part of the feeder system for major-league clubs.

The NCAA might not go for it, but such a proposal is worth exploring; baseball would save money by scaling back the number of minor-league clubs and also sign fewer high-risk, high school players if those players considered college a more attractive option.

Selig, even while presiding over record revenues, remains open to change — he formed a 14-man competition committee in December to examine new ways to improve the game on the field.

He should form another committee solely to address the amateur side, with the idea of taking further action to prevent baseball from becoming an elitist sport in this country.

Torii Hunter said something really stupid.

Baseball needs to get smart.

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Well, now .... that is very, very interesting!!

Hmmm ... I dunno .... maybe he mighta, shoulda, coulda said what he said in a different way, but ... the boy didn't lie!!  So, I'm not so sure all this harsh criticism is really all that warranted! 

The only possible thing I might question is whether or not MLB is really trying to *fake anybody out* with the number of 'Black' faces in uniforms.  I think he may be giving them too much credit because I'm not sure they really care that much!  They want high talent for cheapest price... and since that's what affects their bottom line most, I would think that's all they really care about!

However ... if that's not the case and they're really trying to kill two birds with one stone - acquire high-quality, low-cost talent AND pacify complainers that are accusing them of discrimination ... then the Dominicans are, in effect, being used as "impostors" ... and again, Hunter is right and is telling the truth!  And he shouldn't be condemned for that!

But ... I do think its unfortunate that he doesn't understand that those brothas from those other countries are a part of the African Diaspora ... and simply have different nationalities but the same African heritage as he does.  they are just as Black/African as he is.

But, that doesn't negate his argument regarding the lack of African Americans in major league baseball.  That a whole 'nother different thing all together. And ... it's not just reflective of baseball ... we are going to experience the same thing as a people on a societal level when Hispanics become the majority-minority in this country ... which is going to happen soon .. if it hasn't happened already.

We will still be at the bottom of the totem pole.  Disregarded and slowly phased out.  If we don't take steps to do something about that now ... it will be too late for it to matter later.

Torri Hunter is right to be worried.  Maybe he just said the right thing the wrong way.  then again ... maybe not.
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