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Is there any info about it on a website? I'm not surprised. Whites have been talking about, bragging and planning a race war for years - not to say this is the one they are planning. I saw a special about white supremacists on PBS (I believe) once a few years ago. They were talking about how sophisticated, manipulative, and face friendly toward blacks they've become in some of their tactics. I'm glad the blacks are taking a stand but I think we need to be cleverer and organized enough to recognize who the enemy is without them having to spit in our face. That way we can fight them on more sophisticated levels. We simply don't have the power to rely on hand to hand combat. Remember what happened in Watts and any other time there is black unrest. They (since that includes the police and military) are more than happy to take us out.
It's all over the news now. From CNN:

Planned neo-Nazi march sparks violence

Saturday, October 15, 2005; Posted: 6:36 p.m. EDT (22:36 GMT)

TOLEDO, Ohio (CNN) -- A neo-Nazi group's scheduled march against "black crime" in Toledo, Ohio, sparked rioting Saturday afternoon.

Police and SWAT teams moved in, and several people were arrested.

Toledo Mayor Jack Ford declared a state of emergency and asked for 50 highway patrol officers to reinforce Toledo police. An 8 p.m. curfew will be in effect for people "roaming around the streets," he said.

He also blamed gang members for the violence, saying it turned into "exactly what they wanted," referring to the Nazi group. (Watch Mayor Ford answer questions about the violence)

It's not clear why the National Socialist Movement chose Toledo for its march, said Ford, himself an African-American. "It is not a neighborhood where you have a lot of friction in the first place," he said.

None of the National Socialist Movement group's 80 members who showed up to participate was arrested, according to Bill White, a spokesman for the group.

Hours later, aerial video showed people vandalizing buildings and setting fire to a two-story building that apparently housed a bar, Toledo police spokeswoman Capt. Diana Ruiz-Krause told CNN.

The violence was contained to a six- or eight-block area in a north Toledo neighborhood, she added.

At least 150 officers from various units -- some on horseback, bicycles and in riot gear -- were on the scene.

White's group promotes itself as America's Nazi Party and said that it was protesting black gangs, which it claimed were harassing white residents.

The group said it had received support from Toledo's white citizens and community activists.

White blamed the riot on Toledo police, saying they intentionally changed the group's march route to make it collide with a counter-demonstration.

About 20 members from both the International Socialists Organization and One People's Project showed up, and some handed eggs to African-American residents to throw at the Nazi marchers, White said.

Ruiz-Krause blamed the mayhem on a disorganized group of the community's youth.

Most of the violence happened when residents, who had pelted the Nazi marchers with bottles and rocks, took out their anger on police, said Brian Jagodzinski, chief news photographer for CNN affiliate WTVG.

Video showed crowds at around 2:25 p.m. using bats to bring down a wooden fence as looters broke into a small grocery store.

"The crowd was very ... extremely agitated at the police ... for doing this [making arrests in] the community when they should be doing this to the Nazis," Jagodzinski said.

Around 3 p.m., crowds of young men pelted the outside of a two-story residence with rocks, smashed out the windows with wooden crates, ran inside and threw out the furniture and lamps from the upper-level windows to the sidewalk below. No police were on the scene.

About 10 minutes later, the building's second story was in flames as a crowd of people watched.

When police arrived, they used pepper spray on counter-demonstrators and shot tear gas containers into the crowd, Jagodzinski said.

He added that his news van and a police car had windows smashed and doors bent back.

When the violence broke out, the Nazi marchers returned to their headquarters, White said.

A statement from the National Socialist Movement said Toledo city officials had said they would not issue a permit for the group's march. The group said it did not seek a permit, because it didn't ask for "special accommodations."

"We are not asking that roads be closed; we are not asking that sidewalks be closed; we are not asking for additional police protection," White said in the statement. "All we are saying is that we will have a few people walking down the street making a statement about an issue the City is refusing to address.

"And if the City interferes with or unreasonably burdens our ability to do so, then they will answer for their behavior in court," the statement added.
This is really counter-productive. What does this particular crap achieve? Throwing eggs and rocks at Nazis somehow makes things better, changes things?? Ugh!

From everyone's favorite, Fox News:
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The mayor had appealed to residents the night before to ignore the march.

He said the city indicated it wouldn't give the Nazis (search) a permit to march in the streets but couldn't stop them from marching on the sidewalks like other citizens.

When the rioting broke out, Ford tried negotiate with those involved, saying he would meet with them to discuss any grievances, but he said "they weren't interested in that."

He said they were mostly "gang members who had real or imagined grievances and took it as an opportunity to speak in their own way."

"I am disappointed that some folks who clearly are not strong citizens to begin with took this opportunity to make this statement," Ford said. "I was chagrined that there were obvious mothers and children in the crowd with them. Several intimated that they had guns."
Speech is only free when the person speaking is allowed to say the thing you least want to hear.

The City of Toledo is mandated to protect the rights of law-abiding persons within its jurisdiction.

The parade was within the law of the city.

That pisses a lot of people off.

Some extraordinarily bad choices were allowed in terms of where that demonstration (parade) could happen.

That's the way America works.

I think the issue got to be about more than simple 'demonstration', and evolved into a sense of 'invasion of turf'.

And insult.

It was downhill from there.

PEACE

Jim Chester
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Originally posted by Texas Star:
A large riot in Toledo, Ohio is in progress as I type against a Neo Nazi group rally. The short clip I saw on the news showed a large group of black people protesting. Any insight would be helpful.



"Protesting"??? BY smashing out the windows of ambulances and looting and torching some old man's tavern? Hardly the best way to attain social justice, I'd say.

As for the few neo-Nazis, don't make me laugh. Hell, I could have shooed them away with my son's BB rifle!

Face it, like Rodney King and Katrina, those negro thugs were just looking for another excuse to loot, pillage and burn. It's their nature. The rest of America is quickly getting sick and tired of it.
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Originally posted by EgbertSouse:
"Protesting"??? BY smashing out the windows of ambulances and looting and torching some old man's tavern? Hardly the best way to attain social justice, I'd say.

As for the few neo-Nazis, don't make me laugh. Hell, I could have shooed them away with my son's BB rifle!

Face it, like Rodney King and Katrina, those negro thugs were just looking for another excuse to loot, pillage and burn. It's their nature. The rest of America is quickly getting sick and tired of it.

Thank you! I fully understand the desire of the brothers in Toledo to confront these nazi jackoffs, but the rioting, arson, theft and assaults (against paramedics, television crews and others) were just plain SAVAGERY and totally inexcusable. Those nazis came under the pretext of highlighting black crime and lawlessness in Toledo, and guess what? WE DEMONSTRATED JUST HOW CRIMINAL AND LAWLESS MANY BLACKS ARE, FOR THE ENTIRE WORLD. They couldn't have hoped for a better outcome!

And this coming right on the heals of the Katrina debacle.

We're going to have serious problems in this country if can't rein in the criminal element amongst us.
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Originally posted by EgbertSouse:
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Originally posted by Texas Star:
A large riot in Toledo, Ohio is in progress as I type against a Neo Nazi group rally. The short clip I saw on the news showed a large group of black people protesting. Any insight would be helpful.


"Protesting"??? BY smashing out the windows of ambulances and looting and torching some old man's tavern? Hardly the best way to attain social justice, I'd say.

As for the few neo-Nazis, don't make me laugh. Hell, I could have shooed them away with my son's BB rifle!

Face it, like Rodney King and Katrina, those negro thugs were just looking for another excuse to loot, pillage and burn. It's their nature. The rest of America is quickly getting sick and tired of it.


Oh shut up you simple azz cracka - what the hell is your nature? I guess being proud of the history of crackas having burned down black churches, townships, and abusing blacks verbally or otherwise, lynching people and acting like you think you are god is your twisted idea of righteousness. Of course it is. MAGGOT.
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Originally posted by subroc:
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Originally posted by EgbertSouse:
"Protesting"??? BY smashing out the windows of ambulances and looting and torching some old man's tavern? Hardly the best way to attain social justice, I'd say.

As for the few neo-Nazis, don't make me laugh. Hell, I could have shooed them away with my son's BB rifle!

Face it, like Rodney King and Katrina, those negro thugs were just looking for another excuse to loot, pillage and burn. It's their nature. The rest of America is quickly getting sick and tired of it.

Thank you! I fully understand the desire of the brothers in Toledo to confront these nazi jackoffs, but the rioting, arson, theft and assaults (against paramedics, television crews and others) were just plain SAVAGERY and totally inexcusable. Those nazis came under the pretext of highlighting black crime and lawlessness in Toledo, and guess what? WE DEMONSTRATED JUST HOW CRIMINAL AND LAWLESS MANY BLACKS ARE, FOR THE ENTIRE WORLD. They couldn't have hoped for a better outcome!

And this coming right on the heals of the Katrina debacle.

We're going to have serious problems in this country if can't rein in the criminal element amongst us.


Conveniently these crackas ignore the innocent blacks murdered by ruthless police and the mobs of rabid crackas that have attacked unarmed blacks just like the worthless lying cowards they ARE! And every crime they commit against black is hidden behind some false stereotypical accusation. SNAKES!
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Originally posted by shemika:
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Originally posted by EgbertSouse:
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Originally posted by Texas Star:
A large riot in Toledo, Ohio is in progress as I type against a Neo Nazi group rally. The short clip I saw on the news showed a large group of black people protesting. Any insight would be helpful.


"Protesting"??? BY smashing out the windows of ambulances and looting and torching some old man's tavern? Hardly the best way to attain social justice, I'd say.

As for the few neo-Nazis, don't make me laugh. Hell, I could have shooed them away with my son's BB rifle!

Face it, like Rodney King and Katrina, those negro thugs were just looking for another excuse to loot, pillage and burn. It's their nature. The rest of America is quickly getting sick and tired of it.


Oh shut up you simple azz cracka - what the hell is your nature? I guess being proud of the history of crackas having burned down black churches, townships, and abusing blacks verbally or otherwise, lynching people and acting like you think you are god is your twisted idea of righteousness. Of course it is. MAGGOT.

Wow, I didn't realize that egbertsouse was a white troll. I do apologize for co-signing him, however, he does have a point.

You know, I really wouldnt have cared if the brothers in Toledo had killed every single one of those nazis, however, the looting, arson, destruction of homes and assaults against innocent people were INDEFENSIBLE. Just because whites have done similar things does not make it excusable on our part.
The odd thing is how quick blacks are to jump to conclusions against other blacks based upon how things are portrayed on TV by white reporters who focus on any indiscretion made by blacks and cover up things done by whites. Just like the case in New Orleans they bring about a warped perspective in order to give others looking for an excuse to exhibit their underlying hatred for blacks. Just as that snake said, that was exactly their intentions because they know whites and their sick admirers love to hate and find fault with blacks. If they were whites rioters it would be no big deal and none of them would associate the cause of their conduct with them being 'white' devils. They would play up the idea that blacks should not have been in their neighborhood – blaming blacks no matter what the circumstances.

We've seen over and over how a multitude of cowardly whites will gang up on and murder a single black person just for going in their neighborhoods and be all proud about it, and not even be sentenced for it. But blacks are the ones who everyone describes as animals for attempting to preserve their dignity. It is so twisted, and blacks who play along are helping them get away with this mess. It's a shame.
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Originally posted by Kevin41:
Shemika,
The only ones buying their bullschit is their own inbred ilk and the lackeys who love em....everyone else really see them for the social spectacles they really are......worldwide...


What are you talking about, "worldwide"? What would your provincial, sorry black ass know about the rest of the world? The image of the American negro worldwide has never taken a worse pounding than it has recently. From senseless riots like this to obese blacks in New Orleans crying about being "poor and marginalized" to busted black celebrities and criminal rappers, the American negro has become a laughing stock to the world and representative of a set of behaviors to avoid like the bird flu! Even the clown minstrel Harlem Globetrotters are having a hard time convincing the rest of the world there is ANYTHING of redeeming value in African-American culture - the most screwed-up, retrogressive bunch of goofballs on the planet!
For what it's worth, I live in Toledo. For 22 years I've worked at a major trauma hospital in that neighborhood. There is a large amount of gang activity there, a high dropout rate and the highest police call rate in the city.

Just the kinda place those n*a*z*i b@astards would like to come to stir up trouble. They succeeded big time.....and they weren't even there.

Their march, planned for 11 am was cancelled. Those supremist @ssholes were escorted out due to the escalating tension in the neighborhood. Yet they managed to get just the reaction they wanted to prove their point.

Our black mayor, Jack Ford, went to talk with the crowd after the march was cancelled. Accompanying him was the Fire Dept. Chief, Mike Bell, also a black man who has done a fine job for years. There was also a black minister well known in the community. They went down the street accompanied by local media.

It didn't work.

The mayor was threatened to be shot.

No one wanted to listen. Over and over, the question was shouted "Why are they here? Why are you letting them be here?"

The mayor retreated, regrouped and was returning to the crowd when they saw the bar on fire.

Shamika, I don't see how burning down a 70 year old man's apartment (above the bar, and they threw his appliances out the windows - he lost everything he owned); tearing up a convenience store; tearing up and overturning the 60 year old woman's car who was working at the convenience store can possibly help restore racial equality or improve the media image of blacks or make any kind of positive statement at all.

All it did was give the 'white justification' what they wanted....on a silver platter. All of this violence and destruction....for a march that didn't even take place. Sad. Beyond sad.

And the 'Erase the Hate' fair which was to be held in a nearby park was largely ignored, even though it was planned by local neighborhood groups.
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What are you talking about, "worldwide"? What would your provincial, sorry black ass know about the rest of the world? The image of the American negro worldwide has never taken a worse pounding than it has recently.

_______________________________________

Now, let's see, there are approximately 30 million African Americans in the United States (and that is not counting all of the Black people here of African descent that were not born here),
So, approximately 50-100 young Blacks in Toledo, Ohio rioted, (which was stupid and wrong), but,
So now that leaves say, approxitmately, yea, still approximately 30 million African Americans who did not particiapate in a riot in Toledo and all of which that did not live in the direct area only even knew about it from reading about it in the newspaper or seeing it on the news on tv, just like every other American in this country that is not African American.
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Originally posted by shemika:

The odd thing is how quick blacks are to jump to conclusions against other blacks based upon how things are portrayed on TV by white reporters who focus on any indiscretion made by blacks and cover up things done by whites.

...It is so twisted, and blacks who play along are helping them get away with this mess. It's a shame.
Important point. It has a lot to do with the racist idea that Every Individual Black Person and "Black" Act "Represents The Race". It's INTERNALIZED RACISM. The "TWISTED" part of it is when Black people bemoan how the actions of some Black folk "reflect on us all" accepting the racist Double Standard and the racist characterization; and worst yet, promoting the same type of venom by using the same type of terminology - e.g. "Savagery"; animals; etc.

I have no idea who SUBROC is, Black or White, but this typifies that INTERNALIZED RACISM:
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Those nazis came under the pretext of highlighting black crime and lawlessness in Toledo, and guess what? WE DEMONSTRATED JUST HOW CRIMINAL AND LAWLESS MANY BLACKS ARE, FOR THE ENTIRE WORLD. They couldn't have hoped for a better outcome!

...We're going to have serious problems in this country if can't rein in the criminal element amongst us.
Funny how White "Savagery" is not "demonstrated" to the world or even regarded by the BLACK "Criminal Element Patrol" in the same way:

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But when SIUC's past Halloween celebrations are taken into consideration, it is quite clear why the rules are expanding and people are going to great lengths to enforce them.

Stories of past Halloweens and the riots that plagued them remain, with powerful images of shattered shop windows and a Strip clouded by tear gas.

In 1981, a crowd of about 20,000 revelers clashed with police, resulting in dozens of arrests and almost 100 injuries. Yearly riots ensued sporadically throughout the 1980s, each time leaving a shattered wake of flipped cars and broken glass.

After the explosive riots in 1994, which required the National Guard to be called in and resulted in video footage on The Learning Channel in a "Binge Drinking and Riot" feature, the City Council moved to close bars on the Strip and restrict keg sales. But the frenzy was not stopped.

Despite the establishment of a five-year fall break by the University in 1995, parties wrought about $10,000 in property damage in 1996.

After a wave of calmer Halloween weekends, in 2000 the Carbondale City Council voted 3-2 to allow bars on the Strip to remain open and the sale of kegs to go unrestricted.

http://newshound.de.siu.edu/voices/stories/storyReader$2168

http://www.dailyegyptian.com/fall00/11-02-00/Halloween1.html
Now these were RIOTS that ended up being damn near ANNUAL events over... HALLOWEEN? And if you check the feelings over the "crack down" on this drunken White Colleges Students "tradition", there are people who actually bemoan having Halloween festivities?

Look at it closely... 1981 through 1994. And just when you thought it was safe and the "crack down" was forever... 2000 pops up! And of course there's more where that came from.
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Case in point: Salt Lake City, where in the waning
hours of the Winter Olympics, white folks who were
turned away from a local "beer garden" decided to take
out their frustrations on cars, cops and each other...

Since the mid-'90s, white riots have occurred on more
than twenty college campuses, mostly as the result of
crackdowns on underage drinking or earlier closing
times for local bars. Whites also have taken to rioting
as the result of college football or basketball games.

...whites are rioting somewhere in America every three to four
months. But of course no one notices, as we become
conveniently color-blind in the face of dysfunctional
behavior by members of the dominant group.


http://muhammadfarms.com/News-Feb27-Mar9-2002.htm


The big thing here is the underlining thought in what SUBROC said:
We're going to have serious problems in this country if can't rein in the criminal element amongst us.

The point is, it has never mattered how "Black people" act. We've had "serious problems" in this country regardless. And, last I checked, crime rates were down. So what Frame Of Reference, beside an INTERNALIZED RACISM F.O.R., does that popular sentiment and all that goes with it come from?

Somewhere along the line people have to reject the racist Double Standard and stop Criminalizing The Whole Black "Race" just because of how things are betrayed in the WHITE Media. I look forward to all the "savage" references to any and every "White" Riot. I'd appreciate the "serious" examination of that. And please don't leave out the exploration of the rationale for those things.

I'm sure drunk shits and giggles or whatever those "White Causes" were were much more understandable or something. But I'm not exactly sure. Could someone explain it to me?
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Important point. It has a lot to do with the racist idea that Every Individual Black Person and "Black" Act "Represents The Race". It's INTERNALIZED RACISM. The "TWISTED" part of it is when Black people bemoan how the actions of some Black folk "reflect on us all" accepting the racist Double Standard and the racist characterization; and worst yet, promoting the same type of venom by using the same type of terminology - e.g. "Savagery"; animals; etc.

I have no idea who SUBROC is, Black or White, but this typifies that INTERNALIZED RACISM:

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Those nazis came under the pretext of highlighting black crime and lawlessness in Toledo, and guess what? WE DEMONSTRATED JUST HOW CRIMINAL AND LAWLESS MANY BLACKS ARE, FOR THE ENTIRE WORLD. They couldn't have hoped for a better outcome!

...We're going to have serious problems in this country if can't rein in the criminal element amongst us.
Funny how White "Savagery" is not "demonstrated" to the world or even regarded by the BLACK "Criminal Element Patrol" in the same way:
by Nmaginate

But I'm sure you know that folks like egbert are not going to acknowlege your point, when even the most simple-minded will attest to its validity.

It's so sad it's almost funny ... In the other man's eye, A Black person does something wrong and he represents the whole race, even though the other man knows Black people that are morally upstanding. And, that same other man will hold up Colin, or Thomas, or Sowell, or Connally, as upstanding individuals, but not representatives of the Black race.

I believe, K41 [or Faheem, or Nmaginate] spoke of cognitive dissonance ... Oh, the other man's brain must hurt.
This is white folk at their best here. They come in stir up some problems then say, "look at them". Then all the other white folk are quick to say the Black folk proved the Racist right, not that they needed any proof. The focus is not on the racist who caused the riot and up rising but on those who rioted and rose up. White folk causing the problems, white folk reporting on the problems with only one irony; they both are being done from the same mind set.
Uhhh...lets see here....how many white "riots" have taken place in the last few years after college sporting events? Police cars burned and overturned, property damage, fires....and these are supposedly educated middle class white folks.....NOT GANG BANGERS. So is the rioting of white college youth a microcosm of white behavior?

The thing is this: If those were gang bangers as said, then they were true to form because that is their claim to fame. If you challenge gang members the response will be violence....BIG SURPRISE. Likely black gang violence in Toledo is inflicted disproportionately upon black people. In other words, if the city of Toledo is 25% black, one would expect that 25% of black gang violence would be against blacks, but more than likely it is around 90%.

There are about 80,000 blacks living in the Toledo area....what percent of them were involved in this melee? This is NOT a microcosm of black behavior as some want to make it out to be. The Nazi proved what.....that gangs use violence...DUHHHHHH.....but what about the behavior of rioting behavior of white college students....what does that prove?


OH the double standard




http://www.freep.com/news/mich/qspfans28.htm
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Originally posted by herdswoman:
For what it's worth, I live in Toledo. For 22 years I've worked at a major trauma hospital in that neighborhood. There is a large amount of gang activity there, a high dropout rate and the highest police call rate in the city.

Just the kinda place those n*a*z*i b@astards would like to come to stir up trouble. They succeeded big time.....and they weren't even there.

Their march, planned for 11 am was cancelled. Those supremist @ssholes were escorted out due to the escalating tension in the neighborhood. Yet they managed to get just the reaction they wanted to prove their point.

Our black mayor, Jack Ford, went to talk with the crowd after the march was cancelled. Accompanying him was the Fire Dept. Chief, Mike Bell, also a black man who has done a fine job for years. There was also a black minister well known in the community. They went down the street accompanied by local media.

It didn't work.

The mayor was threatened to be shot.

No one wanted to listen. Over and over, the question was shouted "Why are they here? Why are you letting them be here?"

The mayor retreated, regrouped and was returning to the crowd when they saw the bar on fire.

Shamika, I don't see how burning down a 70 year old man's apartment (above the bar, and they threw his appliances out the windows - he lost everything he owned); tearing up a convenience store; tearing up and overturning the 60 year old woman's car who was working at the convenience store can possibly help restore racial equality or improve the media image of blacks or make any kind of positive statement at all.

All it did was give the 'white justification' what they wanted....on a silver platter. All of this violence and destruction....for a march that didn't even take place. Sad. Beyond sad.

And the 'Erase the Hate' fair which was to be held in a nearby park was largely ignored, even though it was planned by local neighborhood groups.

Thank you, herdswoman. It seems pretty obvious to me that this was the worst possible outcome for us.
so if a black hate group went to a lilly white area and spoke some hateful bullschit what do you all think the whitefolks and whitepolice would do? politely tell them to cut that silliness out? I be glad when many of you start viewing yourselves as equals in amerikkka....i really do.......i'm tired of people who volunteer for second-class citizentry......
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Originally posted by Kevin41:
so if a black hate group went to a lilly white area and spoke some hateful bullschit what do you all think the whitefolks and whitepolice would do?

If I were part of a black hate group participating in such a demonstration, I would PRAY that the whites in that area would loot and burn their own neighborhoods, attack police, ambulances and media personnel--just like many blacks in Toledo did yesterday.
As I've said numerous times in this thread, I never objected to the brothers in Toledo confronting these nazis. In fact, I wish that a more disciplined group such as the NOI had been taken the lead in doing so. However, the looting, arson and assaults against innocent people were totally COUNTER-PRODUCTIVE and frankly, made the NAZIS look like the good guys.
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Uhhh...lets see here....how many white "riots" have taken place in the last few years after college sporting events? Police cars burned and overturned, property damage, fires....and these are supposedly educated middle class white folks.....NOT GANG BANGERS. So is the rioting of white college youth a microcosm of white behavior?


lol And, those white kids were CELEBRATING, not reacting to a threat. lol

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Originally posted by Fine:
The bad part is, the Nazis were marching against "Black Crime"...and they (gang members) respond by rioting. Unbelieveable.

Fine

Exactly.


As NTA, pointed out, the Nazis proved that gang-bangers [criminals, by definition] are prone to criminal activity. Amazing feat of deductive reasoning there.

But that says nothing about the masses of Black people. Just as Jeffrey Dahmer's conduct says nothing about the dietary proclivities of the masses of white folk. Nor, does the marching and ranting of the Neo-Nazis, say anything about the masses of white folk ... Well, that may not be a good argument. Frown
NPR Story, reporting that gang violence was not really gang problem, unless one describes any collection of Black youth as a gang.

A reporter from the Toledo Blade reported that in her coverage of the riot, she spoke with people from the community, they told her that it wasn't a gang thing; she spoke with gang-members, they told her it wasn't a gang thing; she heard police announcements, it was a gang thing.

Could this be another example the media's NOLA-izing of its coverage? Coverage with an agenda?
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Originally posted by subroc:
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Originally posted by Kevin41:
so if a black hate group went to a lilly white area and spoke some hateful bullschit what do you all think the whitefolks and whitepolice would do?

If I were part of a black hate group participating in such a demonstration, I would PRAY that the whites in that area would loot and burn their own neighborhoods, attack police, ambulances and media personnel--just like many blacks in Toledo did yesterday.


**That is not what I asked you...knowing the lynch mob mentality of whites from a historical perspective, what do you think a large group of whites would do to a handful of racist blacks shouting out bullschit in THE WHITE neighborhood...not what you wish they would do, but what do you think they would ACTUALLY DO? There is a difference between what we wish and what reality is quite often.......
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Originally posted by Kevin41:
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Originally posted by subroc:
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Originally posted by Kevin41:
so if a black hate group went to a lilly white area and spoke some hateful bullschit what do you all think the whitefolks and whitepolice would do?

If I were part of a black hate group participating in such a demonstration, I would PRAY that the whites in that area would loot and burn their own neighborhoods, attack police, ambulances and media personnel--just like many blacks in Toledo did yesterday.


**That is not what I asked you...knowing the lynch mob mentality of whites from a historical perspective, what do you think a large group of whites would do to a handful of racist blacks shouting out bullschit in THE WHITE neighborhood...not what you wish they would do, but what do you think they would ACTUALLY DO? There is a difference between what we wish and what reality is quite often.......

If the Nation of Islam or Black Panthers staged a demonstration in Howard Beach, NY (or Bensonhurst 10-15 years ago), they would probably be attacked. No question. However, do you think the whites in those places would also loot and burn down homes and businesses in their own neighborhood, or attack ambulances and media personnel? Hell, maybe they would, but it would only prove them to be complete morons.
yeah..I think so...espcially when they do so even when a team of theirs WINS.....i'm sorry to disappoint people in here but white behavior is just as sordid as black behavior gets sometimes...it is sad how people try to associate certain things with color when there is nothing privy to color....ignorance, intelligence, motivation or laziness..........
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Originally posted by Kevin41:
yeah..I think so...espcially when they do so even when a team of theirs WINS.....i'm sorry to disappoint people in here but white behavior is just as sordid as black behavior gets sometimes...it is sad how people try to associate certain things with color when there is nothing privy to color....ignorance, intelligence, motivation or laziness..........

Even if whites would have reacted in a similar way, we've got to be smarter than them. The stakes are much higher for us.
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Originally posted by subroc:
Fine, but my key point is that Toledo was a net loss for us. Big time.


And, I think that many of the oppositional responses' key point is, Toledo was a net loss for Us (i.e., Black people), only if one accepts the racist idea that individual criminality, even when involving groups of individuals, is somehow representative to the Black collective.

I, for one reject this falsehood, just as I reject, any and every other attempt to stereotype the Black people.
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Originally posted by Kevin41:
what we have to do and what people actually do in a situation can be two different things....i'm still trying to find a behavior that is exclusive to black people only since many are presented that way....and I cannot seem to find any....well i'll be damned.......

I never said that any sort of behavior was exclusive to blacks. I said that we f****d up big time in Toledo, and handed a major propaganda coup to our enemies.
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Originally posted by subroc:
Fine, but my key point is that Toledo was a net loss for us. Big time.


And, I think that many of the oppositional responses' key point is, Toledo was a net loss for Us (i.e., Black people), only if one accepts the racist idea that individual criminality, even when involving groups of individuals, is somehow representative to the Black collective.

I, for one reject this falsehood, just as I reject, any and every other attempt to stereotype the Black people.

Well, too bad the world doesn't reject group stereotyping. Everyone, including us, does it.

Of course, we don't like when WE'RE stereotyped, but there's a lot about this world I don't like and can't change.

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