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Originally posted by Kevin41:
Now imagine how you sound....... nono lol


....same response,

The masses of Black people live in the inner-city, and very little of Michael's assets even touched the lives of Black inner-city residents.

Furthermore, more times than not, his charitable donations have been used to promote Caucasian causes and not Black people.

Michael Jackson, the child molester, did not associate with Black people, or even think about spending his millions in any Black community, when he was riding high.

Shaq O'neil is one of few, if any, of our Black celebrities, who has actually invested his earnings in the "Hood" to:

A. Create jobs for Black people who reside in the inner-city.

B. Improve the quality of life of Black inner-city residents.

C. be used as a source of revenue to finance business opportunities of all forms in the inner-city.

Michael Jackson's millions have yet to be used for either purpose A, B and/or C, thus the above diatribe as shared by Kevin41, is a myth, because very little of Michael Jackson's millions have touched the lives of truly oppressed Black people, the Black disadvantaged, the Black indigent, the Black homeless, the Black family structure, and/or the many Black university educated and Black working class who seek just one gainful employment to keep from using criminal activity to exist, etc., etc.

If it were not for Michael Jackson being faced with criminal indictment, for yet one more child molestation criminal indictment, Michael Jackson would not have had even the slightest interest in any thought of having any connection to the Black community.

.....and Michael Jackson is definitely not in the running for being one of the truly oppressed of Black America.

......now as for loving the ground that Caucasians walk on, there is not a better living specimen, the specimen being wishing he could be something that he will never be Caucasian wanna be Michael Jackson.

Sincerely,

Michael Lofton
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Race has everything to do with it....look at the difference between the way Robert Blake and OJ were handled....because of the interracial thing....


They were both acquitted! And both of their public images suffered! What are you talking about?!?! Public opinion is one thing. But we are discussing what happens in the trial, what influences verdicts. "Not that guilt-by-accusation schit that american society postures itself to embrace whenever a rich black has a trial." That is where I mentioned that race has nothing to do with these verdicts when there is someone rich.

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and if you want to talk about money not being the issue


Brotha, are you even reading my posts?? I'm the one who said money was the central issue.

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but if I have to explain the significance of race in america, then I guess history means nothing....


Race is certainly significant, but being rich will 9 times out of 10 trump everything else. How many times have you heard the phrase "Oh he's not reallyBlack, he's just Will Smith/Michael Jordan/whoever?" You cannot possibly think people immediately think Black man when they think Michael Jackson. He is right in the aforementioned category, even before his face matched that thinking.

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because black people, particularly the poor are never given the benefit of the doubt when it comes to justice.....


That is the flip side of exactly what I said previously. If the rich get off, the poor obviously go down in flames.
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Originally posted by Kevin41:
so Lofton....if he is a child molester why don't you speak out against the parents who were willing to let their kids get molested to get MJ's money? What do you think of those money grubbing white folks who did not even take their kids to get a medical exam before the got a lawyer or waited until they thought it was the right time to present their accusation?


This sounds bad, but if a parent is going to allow there kids to go to a mans house who was charged with molesting kids in the past, that parent should loose custody of that child. Lets think about this. Would you let your child go to a persons home who was charged with molesting children. It doesn't really matter if the charges were dropped neither...
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Originally posted by Kevin41:

Charitable Contributions

January 10, 1984: Michael visits the unit for burn victims at Brotman-Memorial Hospital in Los Angeles.

April 9, 1984: David Smithee, a 14-year-old boy who suffers from cystic fibrosis is invited to Michael's home. It was David's last wish to meet Michael. He dies 7 weeks later.

April 14, 1984: Michael equips a 19-bed-unit at Mount Senai New York Medical Center. This center is part of the T.J. Martell-Foundation for leukemia and cancer research.

July 5, 1984: During the Jackson's press conference at Tavern On The Green, Michael announces that his part of the earnings from the Victory Tour will be donated to three charitable organizations: The United Negro College Fund, Camp Good Times, and the T.J. Martell-Foundation.

July 14, 1984: After the first concert of the Victory Tour, Michael meets 8 terminally ill children backstage.

December 13, 1984: Michael visits the Brotman Memorial Hospital, where he had been treated when he was burned very badly during the producing of a Pepsi commercial. He donates all the money he receives from Pepsi, $1.5 million, to the Michael Jackson Burn Center for Children.

January 28, 1985: Michael and 44 other artists meet to record "We Are The World", written by Michael and Lionel Ritchie. The proceeds of this record are donated to the starving people in Africa.

1986: Michael set up the "Michael Jackson UNCF Endowed Scholarship Fund". This $1.5 million fund is aimed towards students majoring in performance art and communications, with money given each year to students attending a UNCF member college or university.

February 28, 1986: After having had a heart-transplant, 14-year-old Donna Ashlock from California gets a call from Michael Jackson. He had heard that she is a big fan of his. Michael invites her to his home as soon as she is feeling better. This visit takes place on March 8th. Donna stays for dinner and watches a movie together with Michael.

September 13, 1987: Michael supports a campaign against racism. He supports efforts of the NAACP, to fight prejudices against black artists.

October 1987: At the end of his Bad Tour, Michael donates some personal items to the UNESCO for a charitable auction. The proceeds will be for the education of children in developing countries.

February 1, 1988: The Song "Man In the Mirror" enters the charts. The proceeds from the sales of this record goes to Camp Ronald McDonald for Good Times, a camp for children who suffer from cancer.

March 1, 1988: At a press conference held by his sponsor Pepsi, Michael presents a $600,000 check to the United Negro College Fund.

April 1988: Free tickets are given away for three concerts in Atlanta, Georgia to the Make A Wish Foundation.

May 22, 1988: Michael visits children who suffer from cancer in the Bambini-Gesu Children's Hospital in Rome. He signs autographs and gives away sweets and records to the little patients. He promises a check of 100,000 pounds to the hospital.

July 16, 1988: Before a concert at Wembley Stadium Michael meets the Prince of Wales and his wife Diana. He hands over a check of 150,000 pounds for the Prince's Trust, and a check of 100,000 pounds for the children's hospital at Great Ormond Street.

July 20, 1988: Michael visits terminally ill children at Great Ormond Street Hospital. At a unit for less critical patients he stays a little bit longer and tells a story.

August 29, 1988: At his 30th birthday Michael performs a concert in Leeds, England for the English charity-organization "Give For Life". The goal of this organization is the immunization of children. Michael presents a check for 65,000 pounds.

December 1988: Michael visits 12-year-old David Rothenburg. His father had 5 years earlier burned him very badly in an act of revenge against his former wife.

January 1989: The proceeds of one of Michael's shows in Los Angeles are donated to Childhelp USA, the biggest charity-organization against child-abuse. In appreciation of the contributions of Michael, Childhelp of Southern California is founding the "Michael Jackson International Institute for Research On Child Abuse".

January 10, 1989: The Bad Tour comes to an end. Under-privileged children are donated tickets for each concert and Michael donates money to hospitals, orphanages and charity-organizations.

February 7, 1989: Michael visits the Cleveland Elementary School in Stockton, California. Some weeks earlier a 25-year-old man had fired at the school's playground. 5 children had been killed and 39 had been wounded.

March 5, 1989: Michael invites 200 deprived children of the St. Vincent Institute for handicapped children and of the organization Big Brothers and Big Sisters to the Circus Vargas in Santa Barbara. After this event he invites them to his ranch to introduce his private zoo at his Neverland Ranch to them.

November 13, 1989: The organization "Wishes Granted" helps 4-year-old Darian Pagan, who suffers from leukemia to meet Michael. Michael invites the little boy to a performance of Canadian acrobats.

December 28, 1989: Young Ryan White, who suffers from hemophilia, spends his holidays on Michael's ranch. Ryan had been infected with AIDS by contaminated blood transfusions in 1984. After he was excluded from his school in Kokomo, Ryan fought against the discrimination of AIDS victims.

January 6, 1990: Michael invites 82 abused and neglected children through Childhelp to his Neverland Ranch. There are games, a Barbeque and a movie show provided for them.

July 1990: 45 children from the Project Dream Street, Los Angeles, for children with life-threatening illness are invited to Neverland Valley.

August 18, 1990: Michael invites 130 children of the YMCA summer program of Los Angeles and Santa Barbara to his Neverland Ranch.

May 6, 1991: Michael is invited to the Jane Goodall Charity event. Michael supports her, an advocate of behavioral research concerning chimpanzees in Gombe, Nigeria for more than 30 years.

July 26, 1991: Michael pays a visit to the Youth Sports & Art Foundation in Los Angeles. This Foundation supports families of gang members, and helps dealing with drug-abuse. Michael talks to the kids and presents them with a wide-screen TV set and a financial gift.

December 1991: Michael's office MJJ Productions treats needy families in Los Angeles with more than 200 turkey dinners.

February 1992: Within 11 days Michael covers 30,000 miles in Africa, to visit hospitals, orphanages, schools, churches, and institutions for mentally handicapped children.

February 3, 1992: At a press conference at the New York Radio City Music Hall, Michael announces that he is planning a new world tour, to raise funds for his new "Heal The World" Foundation. This Foundation will support the fight against AIDS, Juvenile Diabetes and will support the Camp Ronald McDonald and the Make A Wish Foundation.

May 6, 1992: Michael defrays the funeral-expenses for Ramon Sanchez, who was killed during the Los Angeles riots.

June 23, 1992: At a press conference in London, Michael makes an announcement about his Heal The World Foundation.

June 26, 1992: Michael presents the Mayor of Munich, Mr. Kronawitter, with a 40,000 DM-check for the needy people of the city.

June 29, 1992: Michael visits the Sophia Children's Hospital in Rotterdam and presents a check for 100,000 pounds.

July 1992: Michael donated L. 821,477,296 to La Partita del Cuore (The Heart Match) in Rome and donated 120,000 DM to children's charities in Estonia and Latvia.

July 25, 1992: On the occasion of a concert in Dublin, Ireland, Michael announces that he will give 400,000 pounds of the tour earnings to various charities.

July 29, 1992: Michael visits the Queen Elizabeth Children's Hospital in London. To the surprise the children, he brings Mickey Mouse and Minnie Mouse from Euro-Disney to the hospital.

July 31, 1992: On the Eve of his second concert at Wembley Stadium, Michael presents Prince Charles with a check of 200,000 pounds for the Prince's Trust.

August 16, 1992: 6 year old Nicholas Killen, who lost his eyesight caused by a life aiding cancer surgery, meets Michael backstage in Leeds, England.

September 1992: Michael donated 1 million pesetas to charity headed by the Queen of Spain.

September 30, 1992: President Iliescu of Romania inaugurates a playground for 500 orphans which Michael has financed. Michael discusses his Heal The World Foundation.

October 1, 1992: Michael chooses a concert in Bucharest, Romania for worldwide television broadcast. Bucharest is a logical choice due to the numerous orphanages the country is known for.

November 24, 1992: At Kennedy Airport in New York, Michael supervises the loading of 43 tons of medication, blankets, and winter clothes destined for Sarajevo. The Heal The World Foundation collaborates with AmeriCares to bring resources totaling $2.1 million to Sarajevo. They will be allocated under the supervision of the United Nations.

December 10, 1992: During a press conference at the American Ambassy in Tokyo Michael is presented with a check for $100,000 for the Heal The World Foundation by Tour Sponsor Pepsi.

December 26, 1992: During a broadcast request for donations to the United Negro College Fund, Michael declares: "Black Colleges and Universities are breeding some of the leading personalities of our time. They are on top in business, justice, science and technologies, politics and religion. I am proud, that the Michael Jackson Scholarship Program enabled more than 200 young men and women to get a qualified education."

January 19, 1993: Michael is one of the stars to perform at the Presidential Inauguration of Bill Clinton. Before he sings "Gone Too Soon" he draws the attention to the plights of the victims of AIDS and mentions his friend Ryan White.

January 26, 1993: At a press conference held at Century Plaza Hotel in Century City, Los Angeles, Michael is presented with a $200,000 donation from the National Football League and the Sponsors of the Super Bowl. He gets another $500,000 from the BEST Foundation for his Heal The World Foundation. At this occasion the foundation of "Heal L.A." is officially announced.

February 1993: In association with Sega, launched an initiative to distribute more than $108,000 of computer games and equipment to children's hospitals, children's homes, and children's charities throughout the U.K.

March 1993: The foundation of an independent film company is announced. They will produce family-oriented movies. A part of the earnings will go to the Heal The World Foundation.

March 27, 1993: At a meeting at Century Plaza Hotel in Los Angeles, Michael gives a 5-minute speech to 1200 teachers and politicians.

April 26, 1993: Within his "Heal LA" tour, Michael visits the Watta Health Foundation, and two schools in Los Angeles South Central.

May 5, 1993: Former President Jimmy Carter and Michael, who are chairmen of the "Heal Our Children/Heal The World" initiative, are in Atlanta to promote their "Atlanta Project Immunization Drive".

June 1993: Michael has announced that he will donate $1.25 million for children who have suffered from the riots in Los Angeles.

June 1993: 100 children from the Challengers Boys and Girls Club visit Neverland.

June 10, 1993: Michael promotes the new DARE-program. The purpose of the program is to inform children about the dangers of drug abuse.

June 18, 1993: Michael pays a visit to a hospital in Washington. He spends several hours with the young patients and plays chess with some of them.

August 1993: With Pepsi-Cola Thailand, donated $40,000 to Crown Princess Maha Chakri Sirindhorn's charity, the Rural School Children and Youth Development Fund, in support of school lunch programs in rural villages in Thailand.

August 1993: In conjunction with Pepsi-Cola International, donated new ambulances to the Contacts One Independent Living Center for Children in Moscow, Russia and the Hospital de Ninos Dr. Ricardo Gutierrez in Buenos Aires, Argentina.

October 1993: Donated $100,000 to the Children's Defense Fund, the Children's Diabetes Foundation, the Atlanta Project, and the Boys and Girl Clubs of Newark, New Jersey.

October 22, 1993: Michael visits a hospital in Santiago.

October 28, 1993: Michael makes it possible for 5000 underprivileged children to visit the Reino Aventura Park, where the whale Keiko ("Free Willy") is living.

November 5, 1993: Michael is guest at a children's party at the Hard Rock Cafe in Mexico City.

December 1993: With the Gorbachev Foundation, airlifted 60,000 doses of children's vaccines to Tblisi, Georgia.

December 16, 1993: The Heal The World Foundation UK supports "Operation Christmas Child" delivering toys, sweets, gifts and food to children in former Yugoslavia.

1994: Michael donates $500,000 to Elizabeth Taylor's AIDS Foundation.

January 7, 1994: On the weekend of Martin Luther King Jr.'s birthday, Michael gives a party for more than 100 underprivileged children at his Neverland Ranch.

February 22, 1994: "The Jackson Family Honors" is televised. The earnings of the show are given to their own newly formed charity, "Family Caring for Families".

August 6, 1994: Michael and his wife Lisa Marie are visiting two children's hospitals in Budapest. They distribute toys to the ill children.

1995: Michael wants to free dolphins who have been locked up for years. He believes there should be legal guidelines about the way dolphins have to live in zoos and parks.

March 1995: Little Bela Farkas received a new liver. Michael and Lisa Marie met this 4-year-old boy during their trip to Hungary in 1994. Michael did everything to help Bela, whose only chance to live was getting a new liver. The Heal The World Foundation covered the surgery and the cost for caring.

June 21, 1996: Michael donated a four-times platinum disc of "HIStory" in aid of the Dunblane appeal at the Royal Oak Hotel, Sevenoaks in England.

July 18, 1996: In Soweto, South Africa Michael is laying down a wreath of flowers for youngsters who have been killed during the fights involving Apartheid.

September 1996: The first Sports Festival "Hope" was held for orphans and disadvantaged children. 3000 children and 600 volunteers took part in the Sports Festival and Michael Jackson was a special guest.

September 6, 1996: Michael visits the children's unit of a hospital in Prague.

October 1996: Michael visited a hospital for mentally challenged children in Kaoshiung, Taiwan and offered 2,000 free tickets to the sold out performance in Kaoshiung.

October 1, 1996: Michael donated the proceeds of his Tunisia concert to "The National Solidarity Fund", a charity dedicated to fighting poverty.

October 3, 1996: Michael visits a children's hospital and brings small gifts for the patients during a HIStory tour visit in Amsterdam. A room in the hospital (for parents who want to be with their children) is named after Michael.

November 1, 1996: Michael donates most of the earnings from a HIStory concert in Bombay, India to the poor people of the country.

November 7, 1996: Before his first concert in Auckland, New Zealand, Michael fulfills the wish of little Emely Smith, who is suffering from cancer, who wants to meet Michael.

November 25, 1996: Michael visited the Royal Children's Hospital in Melbourne, delivering toys, signing autographs, and visiting with children.

December 9, 1996: During a HIStory tour visit in Manila, Michael visits a children's hospital. He announces that a part of his concert earnings will be donated to the renovation of the hospital.

January 25, 1997: Michael waved his personal fee for his Bombay appearance and donated $1.1 million to a local charity helping to educate children living in slums.

April 4, 1997: British magazine "OK!" is publishing exclusive photos of Michael's son Prince. The magazine pays about 1 million pounds for the photos. Michael donates the money to charity.

June 18, 1997: Michael signed the "Children in Need" book auctioned by the charity UNESCO.

September 1998: Michael meets 5 year old Aza Woods, who suffers from cancer, at the Hilton Hotel in Las Vegas. Michael introduces Aza to the attraction "Star Trek: The Experience" and spends the rest of the afternoon with the little boy. Finally Michael invites Aza to spend some time with him at his Neverland Ranch.

November 16, 1998: Michael arrives in Harare, Zimbabwe. He is a member of the American Delegation invited by the Minister of Defense. The delegation thanks the government of Zimbabwe for helping to keep the peace in this area.

September 4, 1999: Michael presented Nelson Mandela with a check for 1,000,000 South African rand for the "Nelson Mandela Children's Fund."

January 22, 2000: During Christmas last year a violent storm ravaged the park of the Chateau de Versailles and destroyed 10,000 trees in the park. The estimated cost for rebuilding the park is around $20 million. Some celebrities are supporting the restoration of the park. French officials are reporting that Michael Jackson is one of them. He was one of the first people to donate money to this cause.

October 28, 2000:Michael painted a plate to be auctioned for the "Carousel of Hope Ball" benefiting childhood diabetes research.

March 6, 2001: Michael donated a black hat, a birthday phone-call and a jacket worn at the Monaco Music Awards in 2000 to the Movie Action for Children auction, an event being given by UNICEF with all proceeds will going to UNICEF's efforts to prevent mother-to-child HIV transmission in Africa.

March 26, 2001: Michael handed out books to young people at a Newark, NJ theater. The event, which helped to launch the Michael Jackson International Book Club, part of his new Heal the Kids charity, aims to promote childhood reading and encourage parents to return to reading bedtime stories.

September 15, 2002: Michael donated 16 exclusively autographed items consisting of CD's, videos and 2 cotton napkins to aid in the support of the victims of a severe flood in Germany. These items were auctioned off for charity and managed to raise 3935 Euro (US$ 3,814).

October 12, 2002: Michael Jackson invited more than 200 Team Vandenberg members, who recently returned from overseas deployments, and their families to his Neverland Ranch. This was to show his appreciation for the sacrifices the military in his community make.

November 19-29, 2002: Michael donated an autographed teddy bear dressed in his likeness to Siegfried & Roy's celebrity teddy bear auction. This auction benefits Opportunity Village which is a non-profit organization based in Las Vegas (USA) that enhances the lives of individuals with intellectual disabilities and their families. Michael's autographed teddy bear raised $5,000 for the charity.

November 21, 2002: Michael donated a jacket to the The Bambi Charity Event in Berlin which raised $16,000.

April 25, 2002: Michael Jackson performed at a fundraiser for the Democratic National Committee at the Apollo Theater in Harlem helping to raise nearly $3 million dollars towards voter registration.

June 2003: The Wolf family, who experienced serious damages to their belongings during the flood in Saxony, Germany last August, was invited to Berlin by Michael Jackson when he was at the Bambi Awards. On that occasion Michael invited them to Neverland. In June, they spent three days at Neverland, meeting Michael and his children.


Charity Awards

May 14, 1984: At a ceremony in the White House President Reagan presents Michael an award for special efforts; he is honored for his participation in a national ad campaign against drunk driving.

January 1989: The "Say Yes To A Youngsters Future" program honors Michael in recognition of his efforts to encourage children to natural sciences and award him with the "National Urban Coalition Artist/Humanitarian Of The Year Award".

March 1989: At the Universal Amphitheater in Universal City, California, Michael receives the Black Radio Special Award for his humanitarian efforts.

September 22, 1989: The Capital Children's Museum awards Michael with the Best Of Washington 1989 Humanitarian Award in recognition of his efforts to raise money for the museum, and for his never-ending support of children.

February 3, 1990: From Japan Michael receives a Role Model Award.

April 5, 1990: During a ceremony, where Michael is awarded as "Entertainer Of The Decade", Michael meets President George Bush, who honors him with the "Point Of Light" award. Michael receives this award for his philanthropic activities. President Bush explains Michael's humanitarian commitments to the press.

September 14, 1990: The Council of the American Scouts honors Michael with the first "Good Scout Humanitarian Award". Michael receives this award for his humanitarian activities by supporting the Make A Wish Foundation, the Prince's Trust, the United Negro College Fund and Childhelp USA.

October 23, 1990: Michael Jackson and Elton John will be the first recipients of the award in memory of Ryan White, which will be handed over in 1991.

May 1, 1992: President George Bush presents Michael with the "Point of Light" award for his continuing support of deprived children. During his stay, Michael visits little Raynal Pope, who had been injured very badly by dogs.

June 3, 1992: The organization "One To One", who is caring for better living conditions of young people, honors Michael with an award for his commitment to deprived youngsters.

July 1993: The American Friends of Hebrew University honors Michael with the Scopus Award 1993.

August 1993: The Jack The Rapper Awards are presented and Michael is honored with the "Our Children, Our Hope Of Tomorrow" award.

November 17, 1993: Michael rejects the Scopus Award. He was nominated for this award, which was planned to be given him on January 29th, 1994.

April 12, 1994: On occasion of the 2nd Children's Choice Award ceremony at Cit Center in New York, Michael is presented with the "Caring For Kids" award. This award is to honor celebrities, who take time for young people. 100,000 children and young people from 8 to 18 years old gave Michael their vote of confidence. The Children's Choice Awards are sponsored by Body Sculpt, a charity organization, that offers drug-prevention programs for young people.

November 2, 1995: Michael receives the award "Diamont of Africa".

March, 30, 1996: The Ark Trust-Foundation, who wants to draw the attention of the public eye on animal's problems, presents the 10th Genesis Award. Michael is presented with the 1995 Doris Day Award. He gets this award for the "Earth Song" video, which draws attention to the plight of the animals.

May 1, 1999: At the Bollywood awards in New York, Michael is presented with an award for his humanitarian activities. The award is signed: "Though he comes from the young American tradition, Michael is the embodiment of an old indian soul. His actions are an expression of the philosophy of Weda, which asked to work for the people - not for one's own interests."

April 1, 2004: At the Ethiopian Embassy in Washington, D.C., Michael was presented with a humanitarian award by the African Ambassadors' Spouses Association in honor of his work fighting AIDS in Africa.

Organizations

The Millennium-Issue of the "Guinness Book Of Records" names Michael as the Pop Star who supports the most charity organizations. The following projects are supported by Michael Jackson:

AIDS Project L.A.
American Cancer Society
Angel Food
Big Brothers of Greater Los Angeles
BMI Foundation
Brotherhood Crusade
Brothman Burn Center
Camp Ronald McDonald
Childhelp U.S.A.
Children's Institute International
Cities and Schools Scholarship Fund
Community Youth Sports & Arts Foundation
Congressional Black Caucus
Dakar Foundation
Dreamstreet Kids
Dreams Come True Charity
Elizabeth Taylor Aids Foundation
Heal The World Foundation
Juvenile Diabetes Foundation
Love Match
Make A Wish Foundation
Minority Aids Project
Motown Museum
NAACP
National Rainbow Coalition
Rotary Club of Australia
Society of Singers
Starlight Foundation
The Carter Center's Atlanta Project
The Sickle Cell Research Foundation
Transafrica
United Negro College Fund
United Negro College Fund Ladder's of Hope
Volunteers of America
Watts Summer Festival
Wish Granting
YMCA - 28th Street/Crenshaw


And may the good Lord reward all his efforts. God bless MJ. I believe I and many right hearted people around the globe are eternally grateful to God for giving us such a man for he has done so much to bring sunshine and happiness to many in the world with his talent and love.
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Originally posted by Sweetwuzzy:
Wow, Kevin41, I never knew MJ did all those charities.


**I knew about the black college thing and some of them but even I was moved when I saw that list...hell, he could be like the other MJ who they say don't even tip at restaurants...but you see why Lofton doesn't really bother me.....he doesn't do his homework and speak clearly froma emotional standpoint...which in the real world......means nothing at all.... Razz
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Originally posted by Frenchy:

Race is certainly significant, but being rich will 9 times out of 10 trump everything else. How many times have you heard the phrase "Oh he's not reallyBlack, he's just Will Smith/Michael Jordan/whoever?" You cannot possibly think people immediately think Black man when they think Michael Jackson. He is right in the aforementioned category, even before his face matched that thinking.

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because black people, particularly the poor are never given the benefit of the doubt when it comes to justice.....


That is the flip side of exactly what I said previously. If the rich get off, the poor obviously go down in flames.


Nope....MJ is black.......and the fact that he owns the beatles and elvis makes him a n-gga to many......understand....white racists have beef with you whenever they cannot feed their silly azz notion of superiority.....and when he got off......all the white people I heard say "damn"....reminds me that they do see him as black....eccentric and rich...yet STILL black....and the point I made about the 120 shots to an unarmed black man versus one shot in the shoulder for an ARMED white man.....factors wealth out of the equation....period......you know...like when whites with less income and worse credit get loans before blacks....also factors money out and leaves race as the PRIMARY factor.....so even the poor do not go down all alike.....neither do the rich.....look at martha stewart versus the enron ken lay types....she gets jail for pennies....he walks for billions.....and the accounting firm he used to manipulate the numbers....it was gender in that case......those who are not white males will eventually figure out who this society is geared to accomodate the most......
And I guess Lofton is too caught up in his own stupidity to admit he was wrong....and understand that the UNCF alone aids poor kids going to underfunded black colleges.....he doesn't understand that when I went to school at a black college...many came there the first in their family to attend college, were dirt poor and some even needed remedial courses to bridge the gap from their sorry azz school system.....and as so far as the inner city charities.....they do not aid middle class blacks...the help the poor......so if he can truly look at that list and think that no poor blacks were helped to get on their feet.....then he truly has a learning and comprehension disability..........
and that is why I found donations dating back to 1984....because I knew Lofton would try to paint MJ's donations as a diversion from the charges he faced...so that is incorrect also.....it is fun to take rhetoric and squash it with facts.....if I have to read all the shit I do to be knowledgeable.....what makes the next motherfucker think that they are going to be knowledgeable based on their self-perception and not the work they do? But he has the nerve to call me pompous....funny indeed....pompous is thinking you can make whatever you want be facts and dump that bulschit off on others as if there is validity attached to it by default......funny indeed
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Originally posted by Kevin41:
And I guess Lofton is too caught up in his own stupidity to admit he was wrong....and understand that the UNCF alone aids poor kids going to underfunded black colleges.....he doesn't understand that when I went to school at a black college...many came there the first in their family to attend college, were dirt poor and some even needed remedial courses to bridge the gap from their sorry azz school system.....and as so far as the inner city charities.....they do not aid middle class blacks...the help the poor......so if he can truly look at that list and think that no poor blacks were helped to get on their feet.....then he truly has a learning and comprehension disability..........


**And by the way....some of those same people are now engineers, scientists invloved with physics, nurses, professors and have reached back and sent their siblings and others to colleges and now give the same chance to others they were given....which is the greatest thing blacks can do for each other........
"....and I guess Lofton is too caught up in his own stupidity to admit he was wrong....and understand that the UNCF alone aids poor kids going to underfunded black colleges.....he doesn't understand that when I went to school at a black college...many came there the first in their family to attend college, were dirt poor and some even needed remedial courses to bridge the gap from their sorry azz school system.....and as so far as the inner city charities.....they do not aid middle class blacks...the help the poor......so if he can truly look at that list and think that no poor blacks were helped to get on their feet.....then he truly has a learning and comprehension disability..........by Kevin41

...more likely, blindness on the part of a Kevin41. Visit any inner-city such as Harlem, Detroit, South Central, Compton, etc., and little if any evidence exists to where millions are being invested by any Michael Jackson in these areas.

The business owners are not even Black, so thus, again the information shared is not valid, in the sense that very little of the millions in U.S. dollars or its equivalent, spent by any charitable organizations have touched the lives of the inhabitants of any South Central Los Angeles, Detroit, Oakland, East St. Louis, Harlem, Baltimore, etc.

Heck, the management of most all charitable organizations take their cut of the top first, before the first dollar reaches the indigent, the needy, etc.

"......and by the way....some of those same people are now engineers, scientists invloved with physics, nurses, professors and have reached back and sent their siblings and others to colleges and now give the same chance to others they were given....which is the greatest thing blacks can do for each other........" by Kevin41

......and few of these individuals set up shop in the "hood", or the individuals receiving the benefits rarely come from the "Hood". More likely the Black middleclass, Caucasians, friends of the Black middleclass have benefited. The masses who remain, rarely, if at all see any benefit.

Don't take my word for it. All an individual would need to do is visit a South Central Los Angeles, a Compton, Harlem, Detroit, East St. Louis, etc., and it would be very evident from the dire poverty conditions that millions of dollars from any Michael Jackson, or otherwise are not reaching these individuals. In many inner-city communities predominated by Black people, the business owners are not not even Black. The local merchants and business owners are Hispanic, Jewish, Korean, Arab, Chinese, Vietnamese, Indian, etc., while their customer base is primarily Black people.

Those so called university educated that Kevin41 speaks about are not returning to any South Central Los Angeles, Compton, Baltimore, Detroit, etc., to invest in any inner-city, which further proves, that Kevin41's diatribe is not the reality of it!

Just ask the people who live in these areas, how much of a financial benefit, that Michael Jackson, Black celebrities, and/or the Black middleclass in Black nurses, doctors, and engineers, have been to the residents of any inner-city, in any Compton, South Central, Watts, etc., etc.

I'm willing to bet their answers will be very different from the misinformation as shared by Kevin41.

The Black administrators, doctors, and nurses at "Killer/King" Hospital, which is in the heart of "Watts" are being fired, being forced to resign, etc., do to their tendency to be unethical, sleazy, blatantly incompetent, etc., so much so, that the Feds have threatened to remove funds from Martin Luther King Hospital.

The blatant incompetence of many of these individuals has resulted in numerous malpractice lawsuits, unwarranted deaths of numerous hospital patients, etc., etc.

Los Angeles County has been forced to rid itself of such incompetence or lose funding for Martin Luther King Hospital, and the Charles Drew Medical School.

Yep, it is definitely a misnomer to say, imply, or even believe that any of these individuals, in any Michael Jackson, Black doctor, Black engineer, etc., etc., have been of any value to inner-city residents.


Sincerely,

Michael Lofton
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...although Michael Jackson was acquitted, in the eyes of the masses he is still considered a child molester.

.....One or more of the jurists even stated this. The only reason that Michael Jackson was acquitted is the lack of credibility on the part of the prosecution. In several other documented incidents, Michael Jackson has paid the tune of millions, to several individuals, as "hush money" in an out of court settlement, rather than face criminal indictment for his actions.

This is not the MO of any truly innocent individual, especially anyone of Michael Jackson's clout, who would have the resources to rebutt such a claim over paying over twenty million dollars in damages.

Although he was acquitted of being a child molester, in this most recent trial, the majority of people have still branded Michael Jackson as being a child molester and rightfully so.

The question being ask by many individuals, and the Media, on the West Coast, is, "Now that Michael Jackson has been acquitted, will Michael Jackson continue his old habit of molesting and/or sleeping with young boys?"

....It is going to be next to impossible, if not impossible, for Michael Jackson to change the hearts and minds of many individuals, one being me, that Michael Jackson is not a child molester.

Although he escaped conviction, Michael Jackson remains a child molester. Once any individual is deemed as being a child molester, the responsible residents of any community will go to any length to remove such an individual from their community. This would be especially true in any affluent community, composed of parents, and their children.

Sincerely,

Michael Lofton

Returning to the subject of MJ's guilt or innocense...

The phrase "child molester", although used in common everyday english, also has a legal meaning. By definition, one can only be called a "child molester" (at least publicly) if you have been convicted of child molestation. To my knowledge, MJ has never been convicted of child molestation and cannot be called a child molester.

If someone were to state publicly, in a speech or book or a film, in newsprint or on television that MJ is a child molester, such person would be liable and might very well find themselves standing before a court.

Of course, they could always avoid the hassle and agree to a printed retraction or out-of-court settlement.

Now, for arguments sake, let's assume that MJ is guilty of all ten charges listed on the bill of indictment. Let's also assume that all of the jurors were impartial. It's a stretch, but let's do it anyway.

Let's also disregard the extreme explanations for MJ's acquittal like, "the jurors were paid-off" and "they acquitted him because they were star-struck" Hmmm, I forgot were I was going with this... oh,

Given these two conditions, that he's guilty as sin and the jury was impartial, there are only two explanations for acquittal. First, that the evidence was weak or non-existant, or second, that the DA botched his job; he presented the evidence poorly or the defense out-scored him.

Either way the evidence did not meet the criteria of a "preponderance" beyond a reasonable doubt. And please note that this is true in nearly every case of acquittal... the preponderance of evidence did not exclude reasonable doubt. Does this mean in every case of acquittal the defendant "escaped conviction"?

The public may brand him what they will, but acquittal, in the legal sense of the word, means innocence. He's had his day in court and now he deserves a chance.

In the "eyes of the masses" (what an arrogant phrase) MJ is not a child molester. Maybe in the eyes of the majority of Americans he's a child molester but that still leaves a lot of folks who believe he's innocent.

That a majority of Americans think he's guilty... I'm not sure what that means. A majority of Americans think George Bush is the cat's meow (at least on Nov. 3 they did) and a generation of Germans looked on while six million people were exterminated.

Escaped conviction? I can't get past that. Is it a euphemism applied to every person who is found not guilty? Do people who are found guilty escape aquittal? Good grief! I hope I'm never charged with a crime. I don't have a prayer.
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Now imagine how you sound....... nono lol


....same response,

The masses of Black people live in the inner-city, and very little of Michael's assets even touched the lives of Black inner-city residents.

Furthermore, more times than not, his charitable donations have been used to promote Caucasian causes and not Black people.

Michael Jackson, the child molester, did not associate with Black people, or even think about spending his millions in any Black community, when he was riding high.

Shaq O'neil is one of few, if any, of our Black celebrities, who has actually invested his earnings in the "Hood" to:

A. Create jobs for Black people who reside in the inner-city.

B. Improve the quality of life of Black inner-city residents.

C. be used as a source of revenue to finance business opportunities of all forms in the inner-city.

Michael Jackson's millions have yet to be used for either purpose A, B and/or C, thus the above diatribe as shared by Kevin41, is a myth, because very little of Michael Jackson's millions have touched the lives of truly oppressed Black people, the Black disadvantaged, the Black indigent, the Black homeless, the Black family structure, and/or the many Black university educated and Black working class who seek just one gainful employment to keep from using criminal activity to exist, etc., etc.

If it were not for Michael Jackson being faced with criminal indictment, for yet one more child molestation criminal indictment, Michael Jackson would not have had even the slightest interest in any thought of having any connection to the Black community.

.....and Michael Jackson is definitely not in the running for being one of the truly oppressed of Black America.

......now as for loving the ground that Caucasians walk on, there is not a better living specimen, the specimen being wishing he could be something that he will never be Caucasian wanna be Michael Jackson.

Sincerely,

Michael Lofton



**what is that same response bullschit? Man you are lazy as hell....were you homeless because you didn't get your azz up to go to work? You claim so many black people are inept and you got it all so figured out who the black people worth a fuck are.....why couldn't you do that for yourself? A critical motherfucker is always supposed to have their shit together....especially beyond the people that they are placing scrutiny on.....you damn sure do not meet that criteria.



you posted:

Michael Jackson's millions have yet to be used for either purpose A, B and/or C, thus the above diatribe as shared by Kevin41, is a myth, because very little of Michael Jackson's millions have touched the lives of truly oppressed Black people, the Black disadvantaged, the Black indigent, the Black homeless, the Black family structure, and/or the many Black university educated and Black working class who seek just one gainful employment to keep from using criminal activity to exist, etc., etc.


** I love to watch your azz backtrack....now you have gone from MJ didn't give black people shit to very little of his money got to do anything for blacks...those are two different points you just made in case YOU did not notice.

How in the hell do you even know how much of MJ's money went to black people? How do you know that the amount was little. Do you have his accountant's records to show what MJ paid out? Do you have the recipient's records to see how much was absorbed in overhead and how much was left afterwards from each donation they received?


When you type that same response bullshit Lofton....you think you are being rude and frustrating.....but you are not......I know you say that "same response" bullshit because you HAVE to.....you have no way to cover your azz for the things you can not substantiate, so you have to DIVERT the converstaion by talking all that inept, treasonous black middle class jack-leg bullshit...or you DEFLECT the specific question by saying same response and giving an answer that does not even relate to the specific question asked to you.


I get a kick out of talking to you....it helps my articulation skills because it takes some what of a skill to try and bring someone's bullschit forward and put it in a legible format to then tell them why it is bullschit.


At the same time.....presenting questions to you that you have to DELFECT & DIVERT clearly helps to display those remedial azz mental tactics you try to employ after saying some pathologically self-hating shit or some uninformed, non-factual, unsubstantiated, undefendable bullshit....you out in the wind and cold butt naked Lofton and your ass is getting chapped? Whatcha gonna do?
"When you type that same response bullshit Lofton....you think you are being rude and frustrating.....but you are not......I know you say that "same response" bullshit because you HAVE to.....you have no way to cover your azz for the things you can not substantiate, so you have to DIVERT the converstaion by talking all that inept, treasonous black middle class jack-leg bullshit...or you DEFLECT the specific question by saying same response and giving an answer that does not even relate to the specific question asked to you.

...... get a kick out of talking to you....it helps my articulation skills because it takes some what of a skill to try and bring someone's bullschit forward and put it in a legible format to then tell them why it is bullschit." by Kevin41

???articulation skills, where, when,.......any articulation skill that is misleading, or unrealistic is not worth reading or listening to.

...and it is a waste of my value time to digest misleading information expressed by any Kevin41 that is not factual, concerning any major invest of any Black celebrity in the "Hood".

"With a spate of new projects, for-profit housing developers show a fresh interest in the once-neglected area. But challenges remain."

......Now who is truly telling truth. The inner-city has been neglected by the elected Black leadership, the so-called Black middle class, and the Black upperclass.

Kevin41's reality must be from another world, because the people who actually live in the inner-city know for a fact that the Black elected leaders, the Black middleclass, a Michael Jackson, etc., have yet to bring millions into the inner-city, or create opportunity for the residents of any Compton, South Central Los Angeles, Watts, Oakland, Baltimore, East St. Louis, Harlem, Pacoima, Pomona, Detroit, Newark, etc., etc.!

The only major business investment coming into any inner-city is being financed by every other ethnic group but the Black middle class, Black celebrities, including any Michael Jackson, etc., etc. If not for the investment of Caucasians, Koreans, Hispanics, and other outsiders, much of South Central Los Angeles would be as depressed today, if not worse, than after the 1965 Watts riot.

Just like Caucasian Flight from Compton, South Central, Watts, other inner-city areas, the Black middleclass ran like a "bat out of hell" away from the inner-city, and left behind the Black elderly, etc., etc.


The primary individuals being snowed by the B.S. of Kevin41, are those who don't know any better. As for being lazy, incompetent, sleazy, self-serving, elitist, pompous, misleading the Black community, truly showing hatred for the Black community, the Black middleclass including a professor Kevin41, definitely have one or more of these counter-productive characteristics, more so than any Michael Lofton.

Again, the millions of dollars in assets of any Michael Jackson, or any other Black celebrity are not being invested in any inner-city.

Sincerely,

Michael Lofton

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Lofton.....Michael knows what made him strange and has vocalized as such....you need to do the same with that hangup about your childhood that has you really acting dysfunctional as an adult and spewing hatred...if not....this is how your life will be and eventually (if not already) no one will be around you because they do not want to hear that shit....you have bitter old azz loner written all over your future........

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Analysis of today's diversity news from The Atlanta Journal-Constitution, Reuters, The Washington Post, FOXNews.com, Slate.com and more:



"I've never believed Michael Jackson was a pedophile," writes Slate editor Jacob Weisberg. That's in part because he doesn't fit the profile"”the average molester of boys commits 280 crimes in a lifetime, one study found"”but mostly because Weisberg can't picture Jackson as a premeditating sexual predator. "Michael Jackson seems too emotionally stunted to act in any grown-up way, including a deviant sexual one," he writes. "Naive, juvenile, and terribly damaged, he seems pathetically incapable not just of criminal intent, but of adult consciousness."



Forced to work at age 7 by a physically abusive father, Jackson grew up without a normal adolescence. "Instead, Michael was made into a performing sexualized freak, a boy whose soprano voice kindled passion in grown women," Weisberg notes. "He was made to witness adult sexuality at an age when it can only have been terrifying and incomprehensible to him. By 10, he was performing in strip clubs and hiding under the covers in hotel rooms while his older brothers got it on with groupies." Jackson has said himself that his childhood was "taken away" from him.



"Almost everything that seems freakish about him can be explained by his poignant, doomed effort to get his stolen childhood back," Weisberg writes. "Tyrannized and abused by his father, he turned hyperbolically gentle and generous to children. Terrified by adult sexuality, he froze in pre-adolescent immaturity."



When asked why he spends so much time with children, Jackson said, "I haven't been betrayed or deceived by children. Adults have let me down."



Weisberg makes good points. But still, let's hope Jackson follows through on his lawyer's statement that the entertainer no longer will share his bed with children.
Michael, Frency...

WHO ARE YOU to define "blackness"?

...And it is TOTAL IGNORANCE to base one's blackness primarily upon the color of their skin!

And if you would've noticed in the "Living With Michael Jackson" documentary, during that time of shooting, there were nothing but a whole bunch of black kids (along with their families) from the inner-city invited (FOR FREE!) at Neverland!


I'm sorry, however, if MJ is not "partial" when it comes to his donations - but it's ridiculous to say that he doesn't "give back" to his own people in any way!

USA for AFRICA?...


He's done ALOT MORE for his "people" than these so-called "REAL bruthas" who flash their wealth in our faces, yet, BEG us to make 'em wealthy (in buying their music and OVER-priced clothing)! ...And what do we really "gain" from their music, besides more stereotypes and negativity?


...It's SUCH A SHAME when we consider ALL that this man has given back to humanity, yet, we TOTALLY forget that and focus on the negative (which has NOT EVEN been proven, at that!)!...

Like Jermaine Jackson said, this man should be upheld as a FINE EXAMPLE for Americans (in considering how this world view us), in all that he's done for the world, yet, we treat him like s.hit, simply because he's "eccentric"!
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Thanks Lashid,

that bullschit Micheal espouses is based on his own mental affliction...



So, I see...

...He KNOWS that he's gonna get opposition and strong argument against him...

...But that's part of his "plan" in being here...

Our focus shifts from black discussion/opinion to defending ourselves against his attacks...

"They" have pulled this s.hit at BET, and they continue "trolling" around black messageboards with this mess...
"that bullschit Micheal espouses is based on his own mental affliction..." by Lashid

....as for mental affliction...

Jackson's millions, nor any Black celebrities millions have touched the lives of Black Los Angeles! I'm willing to bet strongly that none of these individuals have been kept off the street, or kept from being homeless due to Michael Jackson, or any Black celebrity's benevolence!

...and with regard to Michael Jackson's perverted life style, it would behoove any parent to keep their young sons away from the likes of any Michael Jackson.

...It is disguisting and very abnormal for any grown man to share his bed with and young boy or girl, especially any young boy or girl, who is of no blood relation.


....and considering the amount money collected in the typical Black Church, the number of charitable organizations, the so-called millions invested in the inner-city by Michael Jackson, the homeless population of Black Los Angeles, the conditions of Compton, South Central Los Angeles, Watts, should not be....which is further indication that millions are not reaching the destitute, the homeless, the poverty, Black families in distress, as depicted by the large number of documented homeless Black people, published by the Los Angeles Times, a world class newspaper.


....Heck, most all Charitable organizations intentionally will go to any length to make it appear that they are helping the disadvantaged, whether true or not, so that they can receive a larger market share of charitable contributions.

I know the game. About the only charitable organization that I will contribute to, is the Salvation Army. Other than the Salvation Army, I have chosen to personally give 100% of any contribution directly to any Black homeless individual, any Black family in distress, or any other individual from the Black community who comes across as being genuinely in need of help. Of course, this would mean I would lose the means to use this as a charitable contribution, on my tax return, because the money, the gift, etc., is not being first donated to any Charitable organization. More so than any tax write-off, it is of more value to make a point the truly needy benefit from my benevolence, over the greedy or the sleazy!

This is of far more benefit to anyone in need, than to have any "go between" in any Church, Charitable organization, poverty pimping jackleg preacher, or other group of individuals who automatically take a large percentage off the top, to which in many instances, the money intended to help the needy, instead ends up in the control of the greedy!

Sincerely,

Michael Lofton
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Michael,
You WHITE poser, trying to come off as just a "black conservative"...

...I am not gonna debate with you something as silly as what is considered "charity" and what isn't, cuz when it really boils down to it, Mr. Jackson don't owe us S.HIT but to keep us entertained! ...Plus, he's done enough for his race in opening doors for so many black musicians following...

But you, nor Frency, nor any one of you have NO RIGHT to "declare" this man "black" or "white"! ...You ARE NOT his creator!


...But I will cease from arguing with you on something SO STUPID - especially when you consider ALL that this man has contributed to causes, charities, music, AND black American culture!


WHAT HAVE YOU DONE for "your people"(yeah, right!) besides constantly bicker against us, point the finger, and oppose our every opinion (yet, offer no real solution)?
Who you choose as a "hero" aint got s.hit to do with this, Mr. Michael!

Besides, I was always told that to first talk about someone (whether it be negative or positive talk), you must first be THINKING about 'em ...And we don't talk about those we dislike continuously!



Plus, instead of making it known what blacks you "abhor" (or whatever), then why don't you try praising your "black heroes" once in a while? ...Why not make a topic that is UPLIFTING to the black race, instead of continuously finding fault and picking out things to criticize?


Ya see, the reason you wouldn't "go there" is because YOU ARE NOT BLACK! ...You are up in here, on a mission to disrupt and get across "the white man's point", posing as one of us!
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Lashid:
Who you choose as a "hero" aint got s.hit to do with this, Mr. Michael!

Besides, I was always told that to first talk about someone (whether it be negative or positive talk), you must first be THINKING about 'em ...And we don't talk about those we dislike continuously!

Plus, instead of making it known what blacks you "abhor" (or whatever), then why don't you try praising your "black heroes" once in a while? ...Why not make a topic that is UPLIFTING to the black race, instead of continuously finding fault and picking out things to criticize?

...same response which is...

......again as I have stated before, I choose my own heroes, to which, the being benevolent to Caucasians over Black people wanna be Caucasian pervert Michael Jackson, Poverty Pimping Jesse Jackson, Poverty Pimping Al Sharpton, should be in prison O.J. Simpson, "Brentwood" Burke, former Congressman Walter "Felony" Tucker, Reverend H.H. "pimping" Brookins, no good serving foreign interests at the expense of Compton and South Los Angeles "no good illegal immigrant" Merv Dymally, ambulance chasing attorney Johnny Cochran, Carpetbagging Martin Ludlow, caught with his pants down while having lewd sex with a prositute in a government vehicle carpet bagging no good sleazy California State Assemblyman Kevin Murray, etc., etc., are very removed from being fit to be called a hero, or very remote from any group of individuals I would admire, and respect!

To each his own. Again, I choose my heroes, and not you!

...and as for being Black I've already proven my connection to the Black community plus, I have years of experience!


Sincerely,

Michael Lofton
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...and as for being Black I've already proven my connection to the Black community plus, I have years of experience![/URL]

Sincerely,

Michael Lofton



Umm hmmm...

YEAH! ..WHATEVA, MA'AN!


You can tell us that you're Martin Luther King ressurrected, but you SHOW YOUR REAL COLORS in your every post!
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Lofton.....Michael knows what made him strange and has vocalized as such....you need to do the same with that hangup about your childhood that has you really acting dysfunctional as an adult and spewing hatred...if not....this is how your life will be and eventually (if not already) no one will be around you because they do not want to hear that shit....you have bitter old azz loner written all over your future........

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June 15, 2005

Analysis of today's diversity news from The Atlanta Journal-Constitution, Reuters, The Washington Post, FOXNews.com, Slate.com and more:



"I've never believed Michael Jackson was a pedophile," writes Slate editor Jacob Weisberg. That's in part because he doesn't fit the profile"”the average molester of boys commits 280 crimes in a lifetime, one study found"”but mostly because Weisberg can't picture Jackson as a premeditating sexual predator. "Michael Jackson seems too emotionally stunted to act in any grown-up way, including a deviant sexual one," he writes. "Naive, juvenile, and terribly damaged, he seems pathetically incapable not just of criminal intent, but of adult consciousness."



Forced to work at age 7 by a physically abusive father, Jackson grew up without a normal adolescence. "Instead, Michael was made into a performing sexualized freak, a boy whose soprano voice kindled passion in grown women," Weisberg notes. "He was made to witness adult sexuality at an age when it can only have been terrifying and incomprehensible to him. By 10, he was performing in strip clubs and hiding under the covers in hotel rooms while his older brothers got it on with groupies." Jackson has said himself that his childhood was "taken away" from him.



"Almost everything that seems freakish about him can be explained by his poignant, doomed effort to get his stolen childhood back," Weisberg writes. "Tyrannized and abused by his father, he turned hyperbolically gentle and generous to children. Terrified by adult sexuality, he froze in pre-adolescent immaturity."



When asked why he spends so much time with children, Jackson said, "I haven't been betrayed or deceived by children. Adults have let me down."



Weisberg makes good points. But still, let's hope Jackson follows through on his lawyer's statement that the entertainer no longer will share his bed with children.

The best, most compassonionate post and assessment of MJ's emotional and psychological problems.

We don't send people with these kind of problems to prison to be "hunched over in a jail cell getting Child Molester Treatment". At least I pray to God we don't. That anyone would wish this on another human being is beyond comprehension.

But sadly, this view of justice, seems to be the view shared by a majority of Amercians. It's vengence they want, not justice and this is part of the tragedy of this whole trial.

To say that MJ lacks judgement is an understatement. His choice of "friends and advisors" is terrible. Any real friend would have grabbed him by the shoulders and shaken him 'til his teeth rattled and screamed at him about what he was doing to his life. Truely, let's pray that he follows his lawyers advice.
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"....you need to do the same with that hangup about your childhood that has you really acting dysfunctional as an adult and spewing hatred...if not....this is how your life will be and eventually (if not already) no one will be around you because they do not want to hear that shit....you have bitter old azz loner written all over your future........"

....and I'm not about to flip this script, to please the ears, eyes, or thoughts of Kevin41 or anyone else, because this is much more than just about my childhood!

Heck the Los Angeles Sentinel, the so-called largest Black owned newspaper on the West Coast has yet to publish the truth, apologize, retract falsehoods about my family. This happened during my adult years. These individuals are a disgrace, and I'm not about to keep quiet about it!

Sincerely.

Michael Lofton
"....you need to do the same with that hangup about your childhood that has you really acting dysfunctional as an adult and spewing hatred...if not....this is how your life will be and eventually (if not already) no one will be around you because they do not want to hear that shit....you have bitter old azz loner written all over your future........" by Kevin41

....and I'm not about to flip this script, to please the ears, eyes, or thoughts of Kevin41 or anyone else, because this is much more than just about my childhood!

Heck the Los Angeles Sentinel, the so-called largest Black owned newspaper on the West Coast has yet to publish the truth, apologize, and/or retract falsehoods about my family. This happened during my adult years. These individuals are a disgrace, and I'm not about to keep quiet about it!

Sincerely.

Michael Lofton

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"....you need to do the same with that hangup about your childhood that has you really acting dysfunctional as an adult and spewing hatred...if not....this is how your life will be and eventually (if not already) no one will be around you because they do not want to hear that shit....you have bitter old azz loner written all over your future........" by Kevin41

....and I'm not about to flip this script, to please the ears, eyes, or thoughts of Kevin41 or anyone else, because this is much more than just about my childhood!

Heck the Los Angeles Sentinel, the so-called largest Black owned newspaper on the West Coast has yet to publish the truth, apologize, retract falsehoods about my family. This happened during my adult years. These individuals are a disgrace, and I'm not about to keep quiet about it!

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Michael Lofton

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that is between you and the Sentinel.....if you are so adamant about being wronged, file a lawsuit...but do not for once think you are going to include the black race in stating your displeasure about YOUR situation and not get asked to substantiate your accusations. I personally believe you do not have a valid argument and are bitter as a result..again, that is YOUR personal issue, not that of this board and the black race.....espcially since all you ever say is that you were wronged and do not give both sides to the story....i think doing so will force you to see the truth....
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that is between you and the Sentinel.....if you are so adamant about being wronged, file a lawsuit...but do not for once think you are going to include the black race in stating your displeasure about YOUR situation and not get asked to substantiate your accusations. I personally believe you do not have a valid argument and are bitter as a result..again, that is YOUR personal issue, not that of this board and the black race.....espcially since all you ever say is that you were wronged and do not give both sides to the story....i think doing so will force you to see the truth....


....same response which is....

I don't see any reason to respond to the nonsense that you continue to post.

Sincerely,

Michael Lofton
yeah...you talk about how wronged you were...but i see you fail to get off your lazy lying azz to do something about it....which means the Sentinel must have some merit to what they printed....if that was my family....i wouldn't even be in here fucking around....i'd be working to defend my family's name...that is why you are so damn hateful.........because you are helpless to do something about it....because once you start with those lies and opinions, they will print another story about the fool who tried to make the truth a lie......when they have records to refer to.....so you need to look inward, because no one in here has done you shit.....
"yeah...you talk about how wronged you were...but i see you fail to get off your lazy lying azz to do something about it....which means the Sentinel must have some merit to what they printed....if that was my family....i wouldn't even be in here fucking around....i'd be working to defend my family's name...that is why you are so damn hateful.........because you are helpless to do something about it....because once you start with those lies and opinions, they will print another story about the fool who tried to make the truth a lie......when they have records to refer to.....so you need to look inward, because no one in here has done you shit....." by Kevin41

There is definitely nothing of merit or worthy of praise as it pertains to sleaze, treason, ignorance, or unethical and unprofessional journalism.

The Los Angeles Sentinel is just a "Yellow Journal"

..Sue the Sentinel???? The Sentinel does not have anything worth suing for. Eventually, the Sentinel will put itself out of business!!!

Many of our own elected officials are treasonous, disgraceful, and should be banned from ever holding elected office!

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yep.....you are such a weasel azz person Lofton...you make excuses not to take action but at the same time you feel like youv'e been wronged....if you felt that BS you state was true, you'd sue em for 50 cent if you had to....but you are all hot air Lofton...you talk a big talk and speak bad of others to try and create tension amongst others...but everyone else is under control and you just continue to spew emotional BS that you are scared to follow up on...if you were real....you would spend your every waking moment trying to defend your family's name instead of trying to make others feel like you do...now that is homo since you like to toss that title around.......
"yep.....you are such a weasel azz person Lofton...you make excuses not to take action but at the same time you feel like youv'e been wronged....if you felt that BS you state was true, you'd sue em for 50 cent if you had to....but you are all hot air Lofton...you talk a big talk and speak bad of others to try and create tension amongst others...but everyone else is under control and you just continue to spew emotional BS that you are scared to follow up on...if you were real....you would spend your every waking moment trying to defend your family's name instead of trying to make others feel like you do...now that is homo since you like to toss that title around......." by Kevin41

...Nope the only weasels, backstabbers, thieves, cheats, traitors, trash, misfits, creeps, low lifes, etc., etc., are these individuals, and the Black middleclass who praise, them!!

...and again the Los Angeles Sentinel is not worth the effort or investment for civil lawsuit. The parties being sued though, in Los Angeles Superior Court case #895188, are by far, well worth the investment, the time, the energy to be sued for damages.

....again, the Los Angeles Sentinel, is indeed a "Yellow Journal", that will eventually result in losing business opportunity, because it's customer base is primarily Black, and the Black customer base of the Los Sentinel, continues to shrink. I wouldn't be interested in purchasing a subscription. Instead I have chosen to subscribe to the world class Los Angeles Times, or on occasion, I will purchase the Los Angeles Daily News. The Los Angeles Times, and the Daily News, are more professional, would be less apt to publish falsehoods, and then not correct false information, which again, comes with the territory of professional journalism. The Los Angeles Sentinel newspaper is consider a tabloid, a "yellow journal". When The National Enquirer in a tabloid magazine is mentioned, this also brings to mind the Los Angeles Sentinel. Slim chance that the Sentinel will earn any Pulitzer prize honor for journalism. This is because the Los Angeles Sentinel does not have a history of publishing news worthy and/or accurate information.


Like the National Inquirer magazine, the Los Angeles Sentinel Newspaper amounts to a tabloid!

The Los Angeles Times Wins Pulitzer Prize honors for 2005!

...now as for promoting homosexuality, gay rights, etc., etc., this is not a subject that I would have any interest in.

Sincerely,

Michael Lofton

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"... caught with his pants down while having lewd sex with a prostitute in a government vehicle..."

Does anyone happen to know the name and phone number of this women? (just kidding)

Mr. Lofton,

I believe you are far too harsh in your judgment of the people you have named. While it may be true that some of them have made mistakes and bad choices in their lives, it does not negate all the good that they have accomplished.

Each of them at some time has helped focused attention on some grievous injustice in our culture. To condemn them and everything they have accomplished for the poor, for the indigent, for the African American community, because of a sexual indiscretion or financial irregularity is a rational, logical, and philosophical error. "We are the sum of all the moments of our lives; all that is ours is in them". So wrote T. Wolfe in 1929.

One of your personal heroes may well be John Themias. But nobody knows who he is. When he climbs on top of his chair in South Central LA to condemn the self-serving nature of a congressional apology, no one will be there to hear what he has to say. It is a hard fact that it takes name recognition to attract media attention and John Themias just ain't gonna cut it.

It is a mistake to merge the man and the message. If these voices are silenced or minimized because their personal lives are not perfect, who will be left to speak against the injustices in our culture? Who will be left to speak for the poor, the indigent, the minorities. John Themias may be a perfect role model and his personal life may be above reproach but sadly, in this media age, he just doesn't carry much clout.
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"... caught with his pants down while having lewd sex with a prostitute in a government vehicle..." published and documented

...in addition Kevin Murray, and/or many others use false pretenses to hold office, and most of these individuals do not have clue as to what it means to be an elected representative!

"I believe you are far too harsh in your judgment of the people you have named. While it may be true that some of them have made mistakes and bad choices in their lives, it does not negate all the good that they have accomplished.

Each of them at some time has helped focused attention on some grievous injustice in our culture. To condemn them and everything they have accomplished for the poor, for the indigent, for the African American community, because of a sexual indiscretion or financial irregularity is a rational, logical, and philosophical error. "We are the sum of all the moments of our lives; all that is ours is in them". So wrote T. Wolfe in 1929." by chilewillow

Nope, I'm one of many individuals who can prove that these individuals do not serve our community. As reality would have it our elected representatives and others in positions of influence are truly a disgrace, treasonous, and I'm not about to flip this script.

Those who have faced the reality of it, know for a fact these individuals do not represent the Black community, and it is not just me saying so!

Sincerely,

Michael Lofton
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Originally posted by Michael:
"... caught with his pants down while having lewd sex with a prostitute in a government vehicle..." published and documented

...in addition Kevin Murray, and/or many others use false pretenses to hold office, and most of these individuals do not have clue as to what it means to be an elected representative!

"I believe you are far too harsh in your judgment of the people you have named. While it may be true that some of them have made mistakes and bad choices in their lives, it does not negate all the good that they have accomplished.

Each of them at some time has helped focused attention on some grievous injustice in our culture. To condemn them and everything they have accomplished for the poor, for the indigent, for the African American community, because of a sexual indiscretion or financial irregularity is a rational, logical, and philosophical error. "We are the sum of all the moments of our lives; all that is ours is in them". So wrote T. Wolfe in 1929." by chilewillow

Nope, I'm one of many individuals who can prove that these individuals do not serve our community. As reality would have it our elected representatives and others in positions of influence are truly a disgrace, treasonous, and I'm not about to flip this script.

Those who have faced the reality of it, know for a fact these individuals do not represent the Black community, and it is not just me saying so!

Sincerely,

Michael Lofton

Mr. Lofton,

Surely you will agree... and someone else made this point, that most politicians are of the same ilk, cut from the same cloth. Once elected, they seldom follow through on campaign promises. They become different people than they were when they were asking for your vote.

You are much better informed than I am about the behavior of the specific people you have named. And, if they are true, the above is not meant to excuse the charges you have made. But the majority of politicians, regardless of race, religion, gender, or sexual orientation... once elected become different people. They are ill-suited to handle the power and authority given to them and behave in a manner consistent with their own self interest. They do not act in the interests of their constituency. To believe that they will act in the best interests of the people who elected them is fanciful, wishful thinking.

I apologize if I sound pedantic, but what I have said is a given. The problem is timeless and is not specific to any one race. In our own democracy, part of the problem is that once elected, there is no way to hold elected officials accountable. We are stuck with them for two, four, or six years unless we are willing to go through the costly, time-consuming, and sometimes ineffectual recall process. In some ways I believe the parliamentary system is better, were a simple vote of no-confidence can rid a community of a worthless official.

And we all have faced the reality of it. Across the US there is hardly a community that is not saddled with some greedy, inept, incompetent public official. In my own community, we have a city councilman who has twice been censured by the State Elections Committee for taking bribes from the construction industry. And yet in November he was re-elected. Go figure!

And on a national scale we have all had to face the reality and incompetence of the Bush Administration and the thousands who have died because of his policies. At least 48% of us have no voice.

For my part, I would much rather have a President who drops his pants in the Oval Office than a President who drops bombs on children, women, and non-combatants, and sends hundreds of young Americans to die in a senseless war. But that's just me.

All of this is far-afield and has little to do with the MJ verdict. I apologize for the diversion.

Kind regards,
Chile Willow
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I guess that is why bush's ratings are low on everything...from the war to the economy...but I hope you loyalists ride him all the way into the ground.....just like with reagean and bush1:


By the Numbers (June 7)


52%
Disapprove of President Bush's performance

48%
Approve of President Bush's performance

41%
Approve of Iraq policy

58%
Disapprove of Iraq policy



Source: ABCNews.com

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