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Hey, dude, if you want to fill this forum up to 3000 with these childish little exchanges, we can do this.

Just like I said before, you're acting like this is a motherfucking playground--instead of finding something more constructive to do with your time, you want to exchange insults with me.

You've been on here a hell of a lot longer than I have--don't you have somebody to talk to that likes you?

Here's what's really funny--the pic of that dude hiding behind a shot up door--me, with a smoking gun in my hand. HA HA HA HA HAH AH A H HA HAH A HA HA HA!!! cabbage wel
Ironhorse, if every watch in town tells the exact same time except for yours, I would suggest to you that your watch is wrong. I welcomed you to this site as well, but unlike you, I'm man enough to admit when I'm wrong... and I was wrong.

What you post here demonstrates an outrageously big ego. The use of the term "niggerish" to describe people here shows that you are more than a bit misguided. At least I can thank you for getting rid of that Robert Mapplethorpe homoerotica avatar you had up.
You know what, Vox, I'm a grown man--you're a grown man--maybe this dude, AudioGuy, is a grown man, but from what I've seen so far, since being here at this site, are a bunch of stuffed shirts that think it's their duty to tell me what to do, what to say, how and when to say it.

The ONLY man that had the common sense to come in my discussion and interact constructively was Fungwda (pardon me if I misspelled his name), and I saw the way some of you treated him in another forum, rather rudely.

Don't come up in my face, preaching this self-righteous, pessimistic rhetoric, "I'm man enough to admit when I'm wrong," when every man that posted a response had nothing but ignorant, unwarranted, uncalled for, spiteful, things to say about what, OBVIOUSLY, was my opinion on dating and relationships.

Let me quote what the heading of this forum is:

"Young, old, single, married-we all have interpersonal advice to give and seek."

It doesn't say, "If you don't agree with what a person expresses in this forum, butcher up his discussion in a series of quotes and critisize him/her for for expressing his/her own opinion."

In case you haven't noticed, all of the responses I make to other people's forums are objective and completely devoid of cheap, snide personal comments. I don't believe in beating down people for speaking their mind, which is what you and your self-righteous, buddies have done. At least MBM spoke his mind and moved on but the rest of you-some petty, insecure babies that read too deep into my discussions, respond negatively but get upset when I don't just grin and bear it.

Get over it, dude because I ain't changing. So far, from what I've seen, this ain't no site of intellectual black people, especially with that lame comment you made: "At least I can thank you for getting rid of that Robert Mapplethorpe homoerotica avatar you had up."

What kind of close-minded, unexposed, jealous statement is that? And you call yourself an intellectual man? You act more, from your comment, like a threatened boy. By the way, thank you for that compliment, dispite the fact that it was meant in an insulting way--Mapplethorpe was one of the artists I studied while taking photography as an undergrad, which is why I made the self-portrait, which was published in a local magazine.

Oh, and, so as not to disappoint you, I will be posting more Mapplethorpe looking photographs in the near future.
Believe me, there's no way I could ever be jealous of a guy who thinks it's cool to post avatars that look like that. And now you say that it's actually you in the pic? You win big points for honesty, I guess...

...There are a lot of disagreements on this site. Tons of them. And on every other web forum, I'd imagine. Those of us who believe in advancing our ideas defend them. Those who believe more in their egos, defend their egos. From this thread, you clearly fall into the latter category. The nature of your posts are going to lend themselves to being attacked, and you along with them. Nobody was attacking you because of anything they know about you. They were attacking you because your statements were so provocative. That means that if you can defend your statements, you defeat the criticism, or at least rebut it. That's what discussion is supposed to be made of. You went so far beyond that, that there's no other conclusion for me to draw except that for you it's more about your ego than about any real ideas. Hence my post. And no matter how many "threatened boy," "close-minded and jealous" comments and accusations you hurl, the thread is a record that will stand. When you reject a woman who liked you, and all she can say is, "Well, screw you; you ugly anyway," it can't bother me one bit.

As for Fagunwa, to me he's the man. People on this site love him, and they should. But the only reason you're bigging him up is that he agreed with your basic points. You say he "interacted constructively." To an egomaniac, agreeing is the only form of constructive interaction. If I had chimed in with a post that said nothing but, "That's right, Ironhorse, you gotz to SUBDUE them chixx!!", to you I would have been "interacting constructively." Even though I really wouldn't've been saying a damn thing.

Although to be honest, I agreed with the "no male shortage" argument. You lost me later on, in one thread or another, with the term "niggerish." If it wasn't for that, I doubt I'd've even posted this.
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As for Fagunwa, to me he's the man. People on this site love him, and they should. But the only reason you're bigging him up is that he agreed with your basic points.


I didn't big, Fagunwa up--as a matter of fact, he recently commented to the effect that he was happy that I removed my self-portrait. Obviously, he disagrees with having that pic up, nevertheless, it didn't threaten sexuality to the point of making the kind of remark like what you made.

Still, I don't know Fagunwa any better than I know you or MBM, which, by the way, when MBM made his comments, I responded, I'm sure he read my response, and he moved on. He didn't return several times, trying to match insult with insult like a hyperactive child on a leash, like HeruStar, LimDem, you, and AudioGuy did--he just moved on. I guess now you're gonna say I'm bigging up MBM, huh?

That's some warm welcome--it ain't worth shit if you turn right around and insult the person you call yourself welcoming--That's called a spit in the face.

You see, this is where you're wrong, Vox--I don't give a damn if a person agrees with me or disagrees--it's a free world--actually, I welcome opposition, another person's point of view might be something that I didn't tink of. Unlike you, I feel that people are free to express themselves and not be ridiculed and insulted because they might say something I don't agree with or post a picture that I can't relate to or appreciate.

See, it's one thing to say, "IRONHORSE, I don't agree with your methods in dating women,perhaps you're coming off the wrong way," it's quite another thing to say, "IRONHORSE, you're arrogant, you have an overwhelming ego...I can see why you don't have a woman...I don't believe you believe in the bullshit you write...."

None of you on this site knows me and I don't know any of you beyond what we read on the monitors of our computers. There is no way in hell, first of all, I would take personal offense to something I read on a website, however, that doesn't mean I'm not going to respond to someone when I feel they're reacting in an ignorant manner. Damn, if a person is going to have the balls to make insulting comments, then have the balls to accept the response you get for making that uncalled for comment, that's all I'm saying, and move on.

Secondly, here's what blew my mind away:

"They were attacking you because your statements were so provocative."

EXACTLY, EXACTLY, EXACTLY!!!

Where in the HELL is the crime in writing a provocative discussion? I even purposefully titled my forum "SUBDUING INTIMIDATING SISTERS," I intensionally used the word, SUBDUE, as a contrast to the daunting effect of the term, "INTIMIDATING SISTERS." I did respond warmly to fagunwa because he was the only one that caught on to the message I was sending, between the lines, of my discussion. The rest of them felt threatened and reacted accordingly.

Vox, man, I'm going to write more provocative and controversial discussions in the future--I've been doing this for quite a while, in a lot more hostile environment than this, and I'm quite used to all types of responses and have handled them all. Just get ready......
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Originally posted by IRONHORSE:
here's what blew my mind away:

"They were attacking you because your statements were so provocative."

EXACTLY, EXACTLY, EXACTLY!!!

Where in the HELL is the crime in writing a provocative discussion?


Nothing, and this is what you seem to have a problem understanding. The problem isn't in the topic, or even the position you take. It's in the inability to defend your position other than in the garbage way you've gona about it. I don't understand the mindset of people who actually take internet discussion boards so damn personally. I wonder if I was ever like that. You offer a provocative position, people balk strongly against it, it's provocative enough for you to expect that to happen... and you start accusing people of being "niggerish." Rather than understand that provocative comments provoke, and address the point... That seems amazingly childish to me. And then, after all is said and done, a guy like me, who agreed with your basic point, comments on your approach to the discussion, and you can't even handle THAT. That's a shame.

You want to bring the Michael Baisden-like topics, and that's good. But you don't have the Michael Baisden-like fortitude to stay strong in defending your argument when the disagreement gets thick. You turn into a crybaby. And you wonder why people here dis you.
I guess I'm going to have to fill up the forums I've created with you and every other clown, because people like you gotta get your point across and feel good abou it. Firstly, nobody is dissing me--they're making false accusations and jumping to conclusions about my so-called percieved personality that they know nothing of, in person--where I came from, we jokingly call that "Internet Psychosis." A person can only dis another person if they know who they are, therefore, can make a clear statement of them.

Secondly, you, and the rest of these idiots are only reacting the way you are (I can't believe this mentally ill dude, AudioGuy, posted a fucking cartoon on his page in his exchange of insults)because I'm not expressing myself the way you people want me to do it, and you feel it's your duty, your obligation, to teach me a lesson:

"The problem isn't in the topic, or even the position you take. It's in the inability to defend your position other than in the garbage way you've gona about it."

What the fuck is this, Bill Maer? Crossfire? The O'Reily Factor? Meet The Press? The Tavis Smiley Show? Fox News? Get the fuck outta here--and you say: "I don't understand the mindset of people who actually take internet discussion boards so damn personally."

If anyone is taking this too seriously, it's you. Maybe you need to sit down, somewhere, and read a book written by Dick Gregory or Debra Dickerson, preferribly the book, "The End of Blackness" by Mrs. Dickerson--losen up instead of coming at people with anal retentive rhetoric like this: "You want to bring the Michael Baisden-like topics, and that's good. But you don't have the Michael Baisden-like fortitude to stay strong in defending your argument when the disagreement gets thick."

Neither you, myself, nor anyone else in, africanamerica, is getting paid to post discussions in here (unless MBM is passing a lil' somethin' to you under the table), nor did I come across a disclaimer saying every post had to be written in APA or MLA style, therefore, I will 'defend' my opinions and statements how I please.

What you and those other baffoons are doing is nothing new--you may be going about it in a more conservative way, to some degree, but the end process is still the same--let's teach this newbie how we do things at AfricanAmerica.org.

"And then, after all is said and done, a guy like me, who agreed with your basic point, comments on your approach to the discussion, and you can't even handle THAT. That's a shame."

Yeah, you sounded just like, HeruStar right there--a mental picture comes up in my mind of you--flinging your hair over your shoulder as you turn around and switch your hips out of my office on the 25th floor of some corporate building like in Dynasty or Dallas, BAAAAAAAA HA HA HA HA HA!!! If there's anything that can't be 'handled' it's me, bruh. You can take that bitchy valley girl cheerleader attitude somewhere else--it ain't workin' with me, heheheheh...
Iron,

Next time you want to post something like Listen and Learn, make sure you've tried it yourself.

Neither you, myself, nor anyone else in, africanamerica, is getting paid to post discussions in here (unless MBM is passing a lil' somethin' to you under the table), nor did I come across a disclaimer saying every post had to be written in APA or MLA style, therefore, I will 'defend' my opinions and statements how I please. IRON

This is what all losers say. We're not getting paid so why should we hold each other accountable for saying stupid stuff?

Do you throw the chess pieces and flip the table when you lose at chest?


Does Mommy and Big Sis agree with everything you say?

If so then that would explain your theatrics.
The following are posts that were subsequently made with no response from me...
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From Iron: (5/11 - 2:30p)
You know what, Vox, I'm a grown man--you're a grown man--maybe this dude, AudioGuy, is a grown man, but from what I've seen so far, since being here at this site, are a bunch of stuffed shirts...
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(5/11 - 4:42) He didn't return several times, trying to match insult with insult like a hyperactive child on a leash, like HeruStar, LimDem, you, and AudioGuy did--he just moved on...
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(5/11 - 9:07p)
(I can't believe this mentally ill dude, AudioGuy, posted a fucking cartoon on his page in his exchange of insults)
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(5/13 - 3:37p)
... snide remarks and childish cartoons...
Obviously, I struck a nerve...
"...hell hath no fury, like a woman scorned..." lol laugh
See, AudioGuy, if you had continued not acknowledging my comments, perhaps I wouldn't have thought you was as immature as I had originally thought. Oh well, you shot that all to hell.

So, what is going to be your next response, huh?

Let me help you out--go to warnerbrothers.com, copy and paste a pic of the Martian from Mars or, better yet, Duck Dodgers, and use that for a hearty comeback. thanks
Its actually funny to me, but it makes you guys look a little silly...going back and forth. I already KNOW how you operate you LOVE having the last word. I mean, you both have good points and you BOTH have me laughing.

Iron, you DO have a habit of coming across as narcissist. Whether folks KNOW you or not, thats how you sometimes come ACROSS.

Instead of taking offense to; hush and listen sometimes. Your intentions are good ones, but I have to agree with the men here too.

Damn.....does that hinder my chances of rubbing on ya booty now? bang

DAMMIT!!
You know what, Avi, there are close to six pages on this one forum alone--over 900 people have viewed this forum, give or take the repeated veiwings, and you decide to waltz up in here to make your backstabbing comments. It's one thing for some of the people here that don't know me to make these wild accusations, it's another for you to come in, this late in the game, to comment on something you know nothing about.

You know, at this point, I don't give a fuck who thinks what about me on this site, as if I even cared when I first came in here to begin with--none of these people are paying my bills, none of these people can whoop my ass and, most definately, none of these people is my mama or daddy. Now, I'm narcissistic--well my narcissistic ass was thoughful enough to find this website, and invite your ungreatful ass over to this site instead of leaving you behind with all those other idiots, battling with a mentally ill forum flooder that wouldn't let you have a decent conversation without destroying the whole forum.

Even back then, you used to pester people--telling us to keep our arguments in one forum, as if you wasn't right in the middle of the name calling, mud-slinging, and beefing yourself, now that we're in one place where the argument is contained in one forum, you still want to butt your ass in and impose yourself in something that doesn't concern you--that's graditude for you--and you wonder why you got played the way you did on the other site--still gullible and naive, Avi. sck
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Ouch. EekWhy does my statement have to be backstabbing? Why cant it just be that? A statement? Come on man, I NEVER SAID YOU WERE NARCISSISTIC. I said YOU COME OFF that way. Damn man, first of all they're only words.

And please don't make it seem like we've always been chummy chummy, kiss or that you don't act like THAT DUDE you tell us to stay away from at times.

Now I'm unGRATEful? bs Here we go again, now I should be GRATEFUL that you told me about this site? Guess what, eventually I would have caught on..... hehehehe, as you so eloquently put it.

I can not believe you just did a 360 and bit me in my ass. HUH, the nerve!! Never ONCE did I say you're wrong, they're right. I said you BOTH have valid points.... Damn, you're the ONLY ONE who can have a valid point? And since when is it none of my business? Its on the WORLD WIDE WEB, my love....for all eyes to see. Eek

Okay, I know that you're about to come back at me with some "literary terrorism", but dont worry. I'm not sticking around for it. I'll go find MY OWN SITE....hehehehe, once again...as you so eloquently put it.

Dont come crying back to me when you need someone to rub your booty either! HMMPH!! off


Wait, there's ONE MORE THING....do do do......you know what? NEVERMIND. tfro
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Even back then, you used to pester people--telling us to keep our arguments in one forum, as if you wasn't right in the middle of the name calling, mud-slinging, and beefing yourself, now that we're in one place where the argument is contained in one forum, you still want to butt your ass in and impose yourself in something that doesn't concern you--that's graditude for you--and you wonder why you got played the way you did on the other site--still gullible and naive, Avi. sck




Iron this was below the belt.........dont you think?
SmileQTY baby, it's OK. Really, you don't have to come to my defense..... He's just showing his true colors. He's cool with you as long as you AGREE with him giveup I'm not doing it just to appease him.

About what happened on the other site. He's acting like I took our 'cyber love' seriously! bs

Iron, you really need to cut that shit out cuz it's not even funny. Seriously. So what we exchanged pleasantries and you become my "online love". Too bad for you when my real life intertwined with my "cyber life". OMG!! NOT THAT!! nono

You were just something to do online. And yes, you were very nice and I appreciated it. But once things didn't go your way you started acting just like a dickhead....the EXACT OPPOSITE of how you want others on here to view you.

Back up off me son. Don't be mad cuz you were in the kitchen and STILL couldn't take the heat laugh
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You're ridiculous, Avi. You were only a calculated risk, just like Carmel, but at least Carmel had the common sense to go somewhere else. You wanted to tag along so you could have an opportunity to start up yet another little piece of bullshit drama between you and me.

Females like you, Avi, are the reason why, in real life, I don't keep in touch with ex girlfriends.

You're talking about me taking our 'cyber love' seriously? Are you out of your fucking mind?? with that long thread of shit you said about me on this site, "If I were single you would definately be the kind of man I would date," yadda, yadda, yadda, and I'm the one that didn't get over our 'cyber love?' Get the fuck outta here! lol

You've worn yourself out over nothing--leaving yourself open and vulnerable once again. I'm not going to bring this bullshit over here to this site--that childish drama you caught yourself up in over me.
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Dissing the hell out of a woman because she couldn't agree with you 100%. And making it so obvious; everybody who reads this can plainly see that none of it would be happening had Avisunshyne not spoken her mind. Unlike Avi, I don't feel the need to be diplomatic and subtle: I thought you were pretty pathetic already, Ironhorse, but this display against this woman is a vile, sorry low point, even for you. And doubly so because of how transparent your motivation behind it is. Mad Mad Mad
You've worn yourself out over nothing--leaving yourself open and vulnerable once again. I'm not going to bring this bullshit over here to this site--that childish drama you caught yourself up in over me.


Over YOU? And I'm the ridiculous one huh? You know what, responding to you MAKES me the ridiculous one. I dont need to say anything else to you. You showed everybody your ASS yourself. Stupid tfro

Good Job....
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Dissing the hell out of a woman because she couldn't agree with you 100%. And making it so obvious; everybody who reads this can plainly see that none of it would be happening had Avisunshyne not spoken her mind. Unlike Avi, I don't feel the need to be diplomatic and subtle: I thought you were pretty pathetic already, Ironhorse, but this display against this woman is a vile, sorry low point, even for you. And doubly so because of how transparent your motivation behind it is.



Vox, this is NO surprise to me. He only wants folks to AGREE. Lets respect the women, blah blah blah...Its all garbage cuz the minute u disagree he bump pushes u away.

Ah, I could care less. He can 'HAVE' this site since I'm now ungrateful for him bringing me here. HA! laugh

If you had been on BP you would have seen his TRUE colors. This is the site where he can be "intellectual" and not act "niggerish"... bs

Have a nice day Vox, and to OSHUN AUSET...don't worry about the ghettoness of BP being brought here. I've found another site that I prefer.

Be good.
This thread is hillarious ... and very telling.

Avisunshyne, whom presumably "knows" Ironhorse far better than anyone else here, has a message to be heeded.

It seems that every thread Ironhorse is involved in devolves into name-calling and disrespects, no matter who posts responses.

That is with the single exception of the Brotherhood thread in the Den. But, I guess time will tell. Someone is bound to disagree with something he posts.
thanksVox Okay, all I was initially saying is that AT TIMES this man comes across as narcissistic. Its not like I LIED or something. nono It's not like someone who comes into this forum can't read it for themselves Eek

I didn't say one DISRESPECTFUL thing once in my whole post towards him or anyone else. "You both have valid points" Razz Thats it.

It's not EVERY thread that he gets involved in where he gets to name-calling and things. There's been a few that I personally have experienced. Still, I never resorted to name calling until he came at me first. Hey, lets just keep it real since he wants to bring up past forums and past conversations.

I just dont appreciate when people regard themselves as "holier than thou". It burns my skin. Be you - an asshole, nice guy, hustler, whatever.... just be you.

Nobody is perfect. I know I'm far from it, but still, I'm just me. Good, bad and ugly. sad tongue scream

Anyhoot, Vox, I'll visit from time to time - see the goings on up in here. Absolutely. Thanks for the stay. thanks
You're right, Avi, you know my internet personality, and I know yours. If you know me, then, you know I don't give a damn what people think about me on a website. Show my ass? Get the hell outta here, Avi. I spoke my mind on this site before you could even figure out the format.

You know good and damn well this has nothing to do with you disagreeing or agreeing with me--there was nothing to disagree on--I could honestly care less what you said, it was under the circumstances in which you said it--and you hold yourself in such high regard--I didn't think any more about inviting you to this site than I did Carmel, and you know there's no love lost between her and me.

You act as if I didn't expect you to pull this stunt. It was only a matter of time before you had your melodramatic moment, like you did back in BP. I don't give a damn how many people rally to your side and help you lick your wounds as you portray this helpless victim role--you know you're full of shit for getting yourself caught up in what was meant to be a show--who told you to be gullible enough to want me, someone you've never met, over your own boyfriend?

To cry wolf amongst these people that don't know your catty actions from Blackplanet only proves you're starving for my attention, any way you can get it--it wasn't enough that I returned your flirtateous garbage, you wanted more attention--you begged for my attention, even when I ignored you, on Blackplanet and you're begging for my attention here.

If these people haven't read your threads and seen how you've been hounding me with all that trash and cheesing all over the place like some silly 4th grader, they're more biased and dense than I thought.

It ends here, Avi.
You act as if I didn't expect you to pull this stunt. It was only a matter of time before you had your melodramatic moment, like you did back in BP. I don't give a damn how many people rally to your side and help you lick your wounds as you portray this helpless victim role--you know you're full of shit for getting yourself caught up in what was meant to be a show--who told you to be gullible enough to want me, someone you've never met, over your own boyfriend?

To cry wolf amongst these people that don't know your catty actions from Blackplanet only proves you're starving for my attention, any way you can get it--it wasn't enough that I returned your flirtateous garbage, you wanted more attention--you begged for my attention, even when I ignored you, on Blackplanet and you're begging for my attention here.



"to pull this stunt" Lord a'mercy dude. You need to SERIOUSLY get over yourself. Straight up. This shit may have worked with other femmes, especially on BP but not with me. I've watched you "charm" half the females in BP; only to curb us once we do something Anti-Iron. You contradict yourself time and time again, then have the nerve to call other people out on their shit. You may have an education; but a smart man you are not.

WAIT...WAIT.... this is my FAVORITE part :

It was only a matter of time before you had your melodramatic moment, like you did back in BP.
laugh

I'M melodramatic? I am? Are you sure it's not YOU? td6 Who's the one coming after WHO? For something that was SAID? ek

giveup You have REAL issues. Really. I could give a FUCK, excuse my French, if you never spoke to me EVER again. bang Get that through your thick ass skull. All these big words you use can't hide that you're an asshole; plain and simple.
thanks

You're lashing out at me for giving my OPINION? Kiss my ass IRONHORSE. giveup You're not as smart as you think and apparently you only understand YOURSELF.

You're right, it ends here. But not really because you ALWAYS have to have the last word. scream So I'll just wait for you to keep digging your hole deeper and deeper. lol
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Originally posted by IRONHORSE:
...When and where you thought I cared about your opinion of me, I don't have a fucking clue.


Not that I gave anything like that any thought; obviously, I don't care what you care about or don't. Although, now that YOU mention it, here's your when & where...

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Originally posted by IRONHORSE:
Thank you, Vox, for your response. Your opinion is especially valued because of your time spent on this website.


Meanwhile, my statement stands. Guys who dis a woman like that for disagreeing with them are weak-ass losers. Whether u care or not doesn't change that...
ironhorse,

i'm really starting to wonder what's up. if you are half of what you say you are, you should be dating non stop, with sisters of great character, education and intelligence. heck, i might even expect you to be married with children by now. perhaps what frenchy and mbm have said are points that you really need to consider. perhaps you put off a vibe that keeps you from attracting the women you want.
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Originally posted by IRONHORSE:
After reading a discussion written by, naturallyme, in the "Sista's Spot," I knew, then, that I had come to the right website.

There are a myriad of reasons why there seems to be a black male shortage amongst the sisters out there in society--I'm not even talking about your run-of-the-mill reasons like the numbers of black males that are in prison, gay or pushing up daisies--I'm not even talking about these brothers running around, perpetrating a thug life, as well as the other type of overly discussed, undesirable black males. I'm going to discuss a few of the main reasons why there is such a disparity.

Women, period, regardless of race, have always outnumbered men--the problem that persists, particularly amongst blacks is lack of communication--the inability to interact constructively due to poor or total lack of social skills.

When I first started grad school, I thought along the same lines of the infamous black male shortage--surely, a brother of my caliber, entering grad school would have the pick of the litter--I was wrong. I met sisters with a number of excuses or issues that kept them from being romantically available. What I found out was a number of sisters that had allowed themselves to be verbally, physically, or emotionally abused and or neglected by black men they've dated or were married to in the past, therefore, they felt the need to put up barriers and employ a sort of 'waiting to exhale' mentality--using the pursuit of a higher education as an alternative to men. The problem with putting up barriers against elligible men is a two-edged sword--of course these women will be evading potentially harmful men but they will also knock themselves out of the elligble pool of available men altogether--this is specifically detrimental when considering the fact that these sisters are around a high concentration of black men that are on the same level as they are.

Another interesting problem is the number of sisters out there that are of age and are STILL playing high school games--being immature, manipulative, chosing bad boy types to interact with. You would think that these type of sisters between the ages of 25 to 36 would have learned from their mistakes of pursuing the wrong kind of men but they haven't.

From my personal experiences of interacting with sisters, I have found, more often than not, that many sisters (and brothers too, for this matter) do not take the time to develop the necessary social skills to, not only be receptive to elligible black men, they also don't have a healthy idea of what an elligible black man is.

Many sisters, more often than not, adhere to popular culture's idea of what an elligble black male is, via their 'girlfriends.' To put it more specifically, if a brother doesn't fit the ideal mold of what an elligible black man is, by 'girlfriends' requirements, then he isn't elligble. I feel more sisters should pursue elligible black men that fit their personal wants and needs instead of what they think their 'girlfriends' would approve of.

In the interest of not turning this discussion into a book, I will leave it up to participating members to read this discussion and inquire more specifically according to their own thoughts and concerns.



good post, too bad this kinda honesty will get you beat down here. Keep preaching bruh!!1 Stay up tfro
You're absolutely right: there is no black male shortage. However, there is a very large number of females who DO NOT want just one man. They want all of them!!!!! As many as they can get. Dizzy black females go to bars and pick up different man just like men pick up females. Surely females don't want to answer to a man as to why she's always in a bar or club. She don't answer to nobody. But she'll say, "Ain't no good men 'round here." She ignorant and uneducated.

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