Originally posted by Faheem:
I finally feel like posting again and I see Radio has run amuck: My apologies to brother Detroit1 for participating in the digression of this thread and thank you Nykkii for your comments in this thread.
**I was replying point for point with those that questioned me...how else was i suppose to do that?? Common sense isn't your thing, huh??**
It is clear that you understood what I was saying while radio missed the point. I never mention earning power of Black men versus Black women. This is a male dominated society and though Black women are employed in numerous places Black men are not, they have to deal with the double ceiling (gender and race) versus the one ceiling Black men have to deal with. In a male dominated society women will not earn more than men period.
**You spoke about blk women outnumbering the blk man in corporate america and incollege...i clarified both with examples that even your hollow head could understand...i'm still waiting for yor links to your lie..err..i mean 'facts'. Please post them. As for you 'male dominated' society theory, why did you mention corporate america, if you were only talking about sheer numbers of employees?? seem pretty pointless. I guess the blacks and the whites are being dominated by the Hispanics who control that large pops of many companies in their food service, jantorial, and landscaping jobs ***
In a recent report done by Ellis Cole for Newsweek titled the Black Gender Gap, Ellis pointed out that 24 percent Black women, compared with 17 percent of black men have ascended to the professional-managerial class. In her study she spoke with numerous Black women who were at the top of their class in college, whom also seem to be facing the same problem as Brother Detroit1 is facing. The Black Gender gap is no myth it is a reality, those numbers from the Census confirms what I am saying here, using your statistics Black women are earning more college degrees than Black men, by a small percentage point. Working with that knowledge we can now see why it is important that brothers like Detroit1 date and marry Black women. We can see on most college campuses Black men cozying up to suzzy and other women while passing over the Black woman on campus and it is not due to her attraction to bad boys, it has more to do with her not being a weak woman.
**This is an article that I read and read closely. I'll add this point of view, so that it can be known and understood. The problem that many people have is the blue vs white collar job mindset. Too often people ignore the fact that many blue collar jobs earn much more than white collar ones. For example, an inner city cop could earn 6 figures with over time and extra security work. In DC, the Captiol Police, which secures the Congress, had to furlough some of their workers because they are not allowed, by law, to earn more more than a congressperson, many of those cops exceed the 120,000 ceiling pay in the first 9 months of 2002. How many lawyers earn that much?? Blue collar / white collar separation is not what it oce was. Auto mechanics, barbers, and other 'blue collar' jobs have many member of that career exceeding 6 figures a year...not many corporate types can claim that. BTW, the stats of college degrees JUST RECENTLY flip flopped...before 1995, blk men got more degrees. I guess before 1995, everything was all even and blk women all married up the blk men that were educated right?? Yeah right!!!
There is no need for me to speak with 50% of Black women to know that they all want a good man, it is human nature to want your mate to be a good person. Although the drug dealer does not have a hard time getting women this is not a manifestation of Black women not being attracted to good brothers. This has everything to do with wanting things quick and easy. Men engaged in illegal business that brings tons of cash in never have a problem getting women and this is true for all men.
**where are these women then?? isn't that the topic at hand?? I think they are non-existant or are in such small number they are a rare find. If you find one, please make her known to detriot1, if not, just understand that I told you first
As you have said radio, what you believe is your reality and what I believe is my reality; however your reality has Black women painted in a way that hints at delusion on your part. If Black men and Black women face many of the same problems in this country, and are subjected to much of the same abuse, using your statistics proves that there are more than enough Black women out there without children for Brothers like Detroit1 and there is no need for him to look outside his community for a mate.
**not actually true, many blk women have children, esp in the inner cities. These single parents are the most visiable and vocal about finding a new man. I've stated this earlier. Again, if you can find that woman [notice i didn;'t say 'those' women, please provide her to bruh Detroit1, i doubt her existance, esp. since all black women consider themselves a 'good woman'
The choice is ultimately his and I believe brother will make the right choice and ignore your corrupted view of Black women.
**not 'corrupted', well supported and very real. I'm still waiting for you to prove some of the ish you said, i guess your ignorance leads your train of thought. ...Oh well, it was nice talking to you on this. It was a good effort for you, nice try
When our most educated, and best prepared turn their back on our community, stagnation sets in and the men and women who are not the most educated and not the most prepared become the example for those coming behind them. It is up to those of us who are not rich and well off but are educated and prepared to educate our youth and prepare them for what they will face when entering the world.
More to come later!
Your Brother Faheem
*i challenged the vailidty of your post directed at me. You didn't do that...why?? I think it's because you were talking out of the wrong hole...here's a hint...try talking out a hole above the belt, not below!!!
Who in the hell left the gate open???
Somebody put roots on me
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