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The War We Are Living

November 1, 2011

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Francia Márquez, leader of the Afro-Colombian community of La Toma, Suarez, delivers a speech at a government meeting on May 26, 2010. The community faces the threat of eviction from their ancestral lands due to authorization of mining licenses without their prior consultation.

Above: Francia Márquez, leader of the Afro-Colombian community of La Toma, Suarez, delivers a speech at a government meeting on May 26, 2010. The community faces the threat of eviction from their ancestral lands due to authorization of mining licenses without their prior consultation.

WOMEN, WAR & PEACE is a bold five-part PBS television series challenging the conventional wisdom that war and peace are men’s domain. The vast majority of today’s conflicts are not fought by nation states and their armies, but rather by informal entities: gangs and warlords using small arms and improvised weapons. The episodes are "I Came to Testify," "Pray the Devil Back to Hell," "Peace Unveiled," "The War We Are Living" and "War Redefined."

The War We Are Living

November 1, 2011
Community leader Francia Márquez with fellow miners on their way to work in the gold mines of La Toma, June 8, 2010.

Above: Community leader Francia Márquez with fellow miners on their way to work in the gold mines of La Toma, June 8, 2010.


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If you ask Colombia’s city dwellers and governing political class, they’ll tell you the country’s 40-year-old civil war is over. But The War We Are Living reveals the “other” Colombia, in rural areas far away from the capital, where the war is all too real – and now the battle is over gold. In Cauca, a mountainous region in Colombia’s Pacific southwest, two extraordinary Afro-Colombian women are fighting to hold onto the gold-rich land that has sustained their community through small-scale mining for centuries. Clemencia Carabali and Francia Marquez are part of a powerful network of female leaders who found that in wartime women can organize more freely than men. As they defy paramilitary death threats and insist on staying on their land, Carabali and Marquez are standing up for a generation of Colombians who have been terrorized and forcibly displaced as a deliberate strategy of war.If they lose the battle, they and thousands of their neighbors will join Colombia’s 4 million people – most of them women and children – who have been uprooted from their homes and livelihoods. Narrated by Alfre Woodard.


Angela Davis: “Racism in Colombia resembles the one in the United States”

Interview by Cesar Rodriguez-G. / * Special for El Espectador


The famous Human Rights leader spoke with El Espectador during a gathering with Black communities in el Cauca.

 Angela Davis appears comfortable in this corner of Columbian violence. We do the interview in La Toma, northern Cauca, only a few steps from the gold mines that the black communities have worked by hand for more than three centuries and that now mining companies wielding titles provided by the State seek to exploit.  Davis’ hosts are the communities carrying the weight of eviction orders and whose leaders have been threatened and displaced for opposing them.

La Toma is a powder keg and Davis knows it. That is probably why she feels comfortable here.  Because she grew up in “Dynamite Hill” in Birmingham, Alabama, in the heart of the southern United States, where the Ku Klux Klan would set off bombs in the black neighborhood of civil rights movement activists in the early sixties.

La Toma is a handful of houses located on top of the mountain, from which you can see, in the distance, the town of Suarez and the Salvajina reservoir. The testimonies Davis heard throughout the day relate the determination of Afro-Columbians not to abandon this ancestral territory despite the violence.

So Davis, the "sweet black angel" from the Rolling Stones song, the global icon of anti-racist and feminist causes, decided to come when she heard the history of the place a few months ago from the lips of a leader of the Process of Black Communities.  Here no one was left out, as happened with more than 500 people who were unable to enter the crowded conference at the National University [to hear her speak] in Bogotá a couple of days earlier. Each female head of household, each child with no better sabbatical plan, had a place at the front of the line at the community center. Gone was the philosopher devoted to the University of California, who spoke in Bogota. Who was here was the activist from Birmingham. She heard the testimony of the villagers and joined the dance of the women who moved to the rhythm of the Cauca violins.

 César Rodríguez Garavito: This is your first visit to Colombia.  What impression will you take with you?

Angela Davis:  I am very content to have had the opportunity to know a part of Colombia that is usually invisible.  I know the struggle of the Afro-Colombian population and I had heard about what is happening in this region in particular.  This is an experience that I will never forget.  What most impressed me was the fact that all the generations carry so much joy in their heart.  Now I understand the passion with which they struggle for their ancestral lands.  But I noticed that it is not only about conserving the legacy of the land, but also of conserving a history, a culture, the music.

 C.R.G.: What significance does what is happening here have for the causes that you have defended?

A.D.: The obsession of capitalism for profit, which does not recognize humanity, which does not recognize culture, which does not recognize history. I think this is clearer here in La Toma, in the struggle for ancestral lands than anywhere else in the world. The Afro-Colombian and indigenous peoples that are trying to stay connected with their land—which is also the connection to their history, their culture—are trampled by transnational corporations. Anyone critical of capitalism should be familiar with the situation here in La Toma and in Colombia, because I know that La Toma is just one example of conflicts that are occurring throughout the country.

 C.R.G.: What similarities and differences did you see between racism in your country and racism in Colombia?

A.D.: Racism has been able to change its structures and ideologies over time. It can be traced to the times of slavery and colonialism, so when one sees in action the structures of racism that still apply today in the hemisphere, you recognize the presence of the ghosts of colonialism and slavery. In Colombia, there are forms of racism that remind me a lot of U.S. racism.

But what interests me is not to bring the analysis of racism in the United States, but to study the relationship between the U.S. government and military and the Colombian government and military.  For example, I am interested in seeing the ways that the United States is supporting the creation of a repressive apparatus in Colombia such as that of the U.S. prison-industrial complex.

This does not happen automatically. It is the result of U.S. government intervention in Colombian politics. During my stay, the U.S. government approved military aid for next year because they think Colombia is in compliance with the protection of Human Rights.

 CRG: What is the role of violence and repression in racial discrimination?

A.D.: What I call the prison-industrial complex allows us to see clearly how racism is used to generate profit. In fact, the relationship is evident here in this mining region, where the commercial mining interests promote a kind of racism that will produce huge profits. In the U.S., a good number of companies are involved in the development and continuous expansion of the prison system, in which 2.4 million people are confined. Of every 100 adults, one is behind bars. Of each 31, one is under the control of the correctional system, either on remand, in prison with sentences, on probation or house arrest. This is terrifying if you consider how the prison has been used and is still used in the so-called War Against Terrorism, or in Abu Ghraib, where torture was presented as something exceptional.

 CRG: Has anything changed with the election of a President of African-descent in the U.S.?

A.D.: Some things have changed. It would not have been possible to imagine the election of a black president a decade ago, two decades ago, in no way a hundred years ago. And this is good. However, the most important thing in the elections two years ago was the fact that Barack Obama presented himself, at least at that time, as the result of radical struggle for justice.

He identified with the civil rights movement, the fight for freedom, and I think that is why he managed to attract so many people. Now, the question of what happened and what will happen is completely distinct. My position has always been that it is the mass movements in the United States and other parts of the world who have the responsibility for pressuring Obama to withdraw troops from Afghanistan, for example, or to support a health system much more radical than the one he is currently supporting.

Those who suppose that we now live in a post-racial society in United States lose sight of the structural character of racism. As some say, a black man in the White House does not compensate for a million blacks in the Big House, that is to say, in prison. The structural aspects of racism still exist in education, housing, health. So the struggle continues.

 CRG: In Colombia there is debate over affirmative action programs (scholarships, university quotas, etc.) to promote the access of Afro-Colombians to the labor market, higher education, as has been done in the U.S. or Brazil. What lessons are offered by four decades of such programs in your country?

AD: Affirmative Action was originally proposed as an element of a broader strategy against racism: to combat institutionalized racism, to eliminate segregation. I think that affirmative action can play an important role. But it is only a first step and has to be regarded as part of a larger cause for justice. Affirmative Action that only seeks to change the appearance of an institution, without accounting for the social class or gender of admitted persons, possibly serves no purpose at all.

In the United States it is generally spoken of seeking "diversity" in institutions. I always thought that a strong concept of diversity could bring about change. But a weak notion of diversity—which may be defined as "difference”—does not make a difference. So I think that affirmative action alone is not the answer. It should not consist only of the inclusion of individuals to guarantee that an institution is not totally white. It needs to promote and improve the situation of communities, local collectivities. The critiques against affirmative action assume that it is always about individuals and that some individuals, specifically blacks or Latinos or women, are being given an unjust advantage to the detriment of others. But it dos not have to do only with individuals.

 C.R.G.: Returning to the connection between the U.S. and Colombia, what do you think of the support that a sector of the Black Congressional Caucus in your country has given to the FTA [Free Trade Agreement], arguing it will benefit Afro-Colombians?

AD: The Black Caucus does not represent the interests of the movements that are fighting against racism, or at least not all of its members. I do not think that all the members of the black caucus are supporting the FTA, because they understand the damage that free trade has caused around the world, especially through structural adjustment programs. So I would get up and challenge any member of the Black Caucus that supports the FTA and says that it is going to help Afro-Colombians.


*Cesar Rodriguez-G. is the director of the Observatory on Racial Discrimination

(French to Spanish translation by Yukyan Lam)

English translation: Roberto Hernandez



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Credits for The War We Are Living

More from the Afro-Colombian women fight to protect their gold-rich land.:

I Came to Testify
The moving story of how a group of 16 women who had been imprisoned and raped by Serb-led forces in the Bosnian town of Foca broke history’s great silence – and stepped forward to take the witness stand in an international court of law.

Pray the Devil Back to Hell
The astonishing story of the Liberian women who took on the warlords and regime of dictator Charles Taylor in the midst of a brutal civil war.

Peace Unveiled
Three women in Afghanistan are risking their lives to make sure women’s rights don’t get traded away in peace negotiations with the Taliban.

War Redefined
The capstone of Women, War & Peace challenges the conventional wisdom that war and peace are men’s domain through incisive interviews with leading thinkers, Secretaries of State and seasoned survivors of war and peace-making.










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  All over South America there are amazing black people who are fighting for their the citizens look at them with blank eyes as they continue to let massa rape their country.  I admire these women but why does it ALWAYS take black women?  Where are the black dudes?  I know they are in South America some where...why are THEY so quiet?  But!

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  All over South America there are amazing black people who are fighting for their the citizens look at them with blank eyes as they continue to let massa rape their country.  I admire these women but why does it ALWAYS take black women?  Where are the black dudes?  I know they are in South America some where...why are THEY so quiet?  But!

You know that the corporate and/or right-wing owned and operated media in America/the West is suppressing and 'blacking out' the majority of news that affects the lives of Black people, of the Black race.  Maybe the media is just not telling what happened to their husbands.  The same thing probably happened to their husbands that happened to [and is still happening to] the husbands of Black women in Paupa New Guinea, where they have been hunted down like animals and murdered in cold blood by the professional military of Indonesia and paid mercenaries of American mining corporations.  

Selective media reporting, and 'blacking out' information and communication that displays what is really happening to Black people across the globe is done deliberately to keep the Black race from connecting the dots to what is really being done toBlack people [therefore, the entire Black race] globally.  How else can they keep Black people from connecting the dots to the fact that our collective fight against oppression, exploitation, and genocide parallels each other's.  

However, still, [unfortunately], each day more and more Black people are mimicking the very people that are plotting the destruction of the Black race under the false notion/belief, that it will eliminate the racist hatred, undermining, defamation and genocide being carried out against Black people/the Black race on this planet. 

As for other minorities, I'm afraid that it is already too late for them since they have voluntarily allied themselves with our collective oppressor against the Black race under the deception of "acceptance".  


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