In the summer of 1966, Stokely Carmichael re-introduced the term "Black Power" into the American lexicon in a march in Mississippi that started with the famous picture of James Meredith being shot on what was his solo March Against Fear. As a result of the increased militancy of activists like Carmichael (later, of course, to be known as Kwame Toure) America became aware of this new, seemingly more virulent form of black activism. Carmichael was on Face The Nation and interviewed widely throughout the press etc. and the phrase "Black Power" became a mantra of those interested in a more "militant" approach than that offered by MLK, SCLC, etc.

As a result of the marches and activism coming from Mississippi, the Saturday Evening Post editorialized the following:

"We are all, let's face it, Mississippians. We all fervently wish that the Negro problem did not exist, or that, if it must exist, it could be ignored."


The question is - do these comments still capture the essence of how America thinks about African America 40 years later in 2006? If not - how is it different?

© MBM

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Absolutely, MBM. The difference is that 40 years later, more immigrants, black and non-black, are trying so hard to isolate themselves from blacks born/raised here in America. They want to ignore us racially, cultural and moreso socially, but if it weren't for OUR dollars that we spend wantonly in their businesses that many have in our neighborhoods, some of them would just as broke or poorer than some of us.
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Originally posted by Huey:
Absolutely, MBM. The difference is that 40 years later, more immigrants, black and non-black, are trying so hard to isolate themselves from blacks born/raised here in America. They want to ignore us racially, cultural and moreso socially, but if it weren't for OUR dollars that we spend wantonly in their businesses that many have in our neighborhoods, some of them would just as broke or poorer than some of us.


Oh yeah. I'm sure the present state of Pan-African Black American activism to be blamed on immigrants.

Who are among the most associated with the "Black Power" in this country?

Marcus Garvey? Stokely Carmichael? Malcolm X? Louis Farrakhan?

Take a minute to read up on their ethnic backgrounds.

Immigrants and their children are not absent from activism in this country at all. And they have been visible from the beginning.

Yet, African-Americans try to paint immigrants as some kind of other. The enemy who takes our jobs, money, education, and sop up the work of "our people."

For better or for worse, Black immigrants are one of the fastest groups to lose their cultures and assimilate into "African-American." Even some of their home countries are turning into mini African-Americas. Some of the immigrants are doing great for the economy in many areas and have revitalized many neighborhoods during their waves. There was a time when Black immigrants from the Caribbean were seen as dangerous people to let into the country because of the political ideas of Pan-Africanism and economic self-determination that they brought in.

Still, the works for the immigrants are constantly degraded and insulted as leeches.

Yeah. Put the blame of the breaking up of Pan-Africanism ideals on the shoulders of the immigrants.

We all know African-Americans are all living the Pan-Africanism ideals and the immigrants are just getting in the way of it all.

Riiiiight.
We all fervently wish that the Negro problem did not exist, or that, if it must exist, it could be ignored."---MBM

I was just reading about the problem at blackcommentator.com---Santana St. Cloud

I was just reading about 'The Negro Problem' as articulated by Booker T. Washington often said to be the definer of 'The Problem' as being carried forth today.

Institutionally, and individually, Americans visitors, immigrants, and intelopers, want 'The Problem' to be ignored...to 'go away'.

But...

We are here to stay.

Make no mistake about it, 'The Problem' is the descendants of America's chattel slavery.

Everything else is rationale and diversion.


PEACE

Jim Chester
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"We are all, let's face it, Mississippians. We all fervently wish that the Negro problem did not exist, or that, if it must exist, it could be ignored."

The question is - do these comments still capture the essence of how America thinks about African America 40 years later in 2006? If not - how is it different?


In the year 2006, soon to be 2007 large expanses of MAJORITY BLACK COMMUNITIES in America do have a "Negro Problem". HOWEVER, their "Negro Problem" has to do with the KNEEGROW that might break into his house and thus he puts IRON BARS on each and every portal that the KNEEGROW might use to steal his material possessions while the BLACK PERSON is away from his house, working hard to maintain a certain standard of living for himself and his community.

From a PROPORTIONAL standpoint THIS REPRESENTS THE GREATEST THREAT TO BLACK FOLKS than does your attempts to relive the past MBM.

When the WHITE MAN acts out on you there will be a local, state-wide and national flurry of support for you. When the KNEEGROW acts out against you - GOOD LUCK BUDDY.

(As the Black French man who was attacked at the Oakland City MARTA station this week and beaten by several assailants was told by the TRANSIT POLICE........YOU WOULD HAVE NOT BEEN INJURED HAD YOU JUST GIVEN THEM YOUR LAPTOP AND NOT TRIED TO RESIST. Other people looked on and did nothing.)
There wouldn't have been a so-called "Negro problem" if the Caucasians had left well enough alone, built this country themselves after the slaughter of the Natives, picked their own dag-gone cotton, and raped each other.

We'd all be in Africa trying to stem the wars over there, knowing exactly who we were.
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Originally posted by Norland:
There wouldn't have been a so-called "Negro problem" if the Caucasians had left well enough alone, built this country themselves after the slaughter of the Natives, picked their own dag-gone cotton, and raped each other.

We'd all be in Africa trying to stem the wars over there, knowing exactly who we were.


Norland: THIS IS EARTH.

I know of NO PLACE ON EARTH that has ever been WITHOUT SIN and absent of conflict between peoples or exploitation of some element of society.

If you believe that this WAS the case in Africa then you possibly have a bit of a fanciful set of historical recollections. Please recall that it was WARRING TRIBES that provided the European with a significant portion of his human resources for his forced employment as slaves.
Peace....



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The question is - do these comments still capture the essence of how America thinks about African America 40 years later in 2006? If not - how is it different?



I think the past 40 years have changed the psyche of white America toward blacks, however, not necessarily in the direction that we want most. America has experienced a change primarily stimulated by the emergence of a conscious black subculture. The 60's and 70's gave rise to a new perspective of the Negro, we were now viewed as "angry"....This was new...We shed our former docile persona, and became militant..

The reaction of white society was to cool the Negro flame...

Ignoring the Negro problem became impossible, and so white flight resulted...White concessions resulted, and the imagery in Hollywood changed from the depictions of the sterile, ignorant black man who lacked direction without the guidance of the white Mister, to an imagery of anger...

The concessions made by whites were not the product of the passive resistance of the Civil Rights Era, it was the direct result of fear. they became afraid to say no to our demands because we were threatening many things during ths time..Not the least of which was leaving their collective asses.

Some form of dousing our heat had to implemented, and so it was determined that if any segment of the black struggle would be given credit for succeeding iot would be the lesser of all of the black evils which was the branch of nonviolent tolerance led by Dr. King. By rewarding Dr. King with good press, and star status, the Negro was taught how to protest, the Negro was herded into a direction which was tolerable for whites...

the angry black man was managed...and we Celebrated in the 80's ....

Oh we partied...however, something brewed...a new generation was watching, calculating, and planning for more than the shallow victory of white concessions on the heels of nonviolent resistence..And on the other side of town, the smiling devils who made the concessions were plotting to introduce death into our community as we celebrated, thus taking it all back, and ushering in a new age of black servitude.

To sum it up..It is now known that we cannot be ignored, and so other methods were activated for dealing with the Negro problem.



Whirling Moat
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Originally posted by Saracen:
Peace....

The 60's and 70's gave rise to a new perspective of the Negro, we were now viewed as "angry"....This was new...We shed our former docile persona, and became militant..

The reaction of white society was to cool the Negro flame...


Saracen:

In my current company I can't help but notice that the majority of the BROWN SKINNED, upper level management are INDIANS rather than African-Americans. The cultural references, sensitivities and outlook ARE DIFFERENT as compared to MANY African-Americans that share their same SKIN COLOR but not their past. Why does the White man, who HATES BROWN SKIN seem to allow these other Brown Skinned people to get promoted but not Brown skinned people with a legacy of American slavery?

quote:

Ignoring the Negro problem became impossible, and so white flight resulted


I just got off the phone with my parents who live in Philadelphia. There is now BLACK FLIGHT from within the more crime ridden parts of the city. Are these Blacks RACIST against their own kind? Or do they just want to get away from the bad elements - as most people would do if they could?

quote:

...White concessions resulted, and the imagery in Hollywood changed from the depictions of the sterile, ignorant black man who lacked direction without the guidance of the white Mister, to an imagery of anger...


I just got a hair cut on Saturday. The television was tuned to BET. Though we are TOLD that THE WHITE MAN OWNS THE RECORD COMPANIES that put this music out.....ALL I SAW WERE IGNORANT BLACK MEN on the television and their EYE CANDY "Mutt" Women shaking their behinds. Did Hollywood really change? I saw Young Jeezy who was ANGRY and DRIVING A $200,000+ CAR in his video.

The concessions made by whites were not the product of the passive resistance of the Civil Rights Era, it was the direct result of fear. they became afraid to say no to our demands because we were threatening many things during ths time..Not the least of which was leaving their collective asses.

Some form of dousing our heat had to implemented, and so it was determined that if any segment of the black struggle would be given credit for succeeding iot would be the lesser of all of the black evils which was the branch of nonviolent tolerance led by Dr. King. By rewarding Dr. King with good press, and star status, the Negro was taught how to protest, the Negro was herded into a direction which was tolerable for whites...

the angry black man was managed...and we Celebrated in the 80's ....

Oh we partied...however, something brewed...a new generation was watching, calculating, and planning for more than the shallow victory of white concessions on the heels of nonviolent resistence..And on the other side of town, the smiling devils who made the concessions were plotting to introduce death into our community as we celebrated, thus taking it all back, and ushering in a new age of black servitude.

To sum it up..It is now known that we cannot be ignored, and so other methods were activated for dealing with the Negro problem.



Whirling Moat[/QUOTE]
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Why does the White man, who HATES BROWN SKIN seem to allow these other Brown Skinned people to get promoted but not Brown skinned people with a legacy of American slavery?



That you're stupid enough to ask that question (again) against the backdrop of American history, WHITE SUPREMACY and RACIALIZATION which has always been HIERARCHICAL... Well, it shows just how STUPID you are and how you're motivated by DEFERENCE to your Beloved WHITE FOLK.

And this is your statement...
the White man... HATES BROWN SKIN

SARACEN said nothing to that effect and the reason why you FAILED to honestly address what he said... Well, you have no knowledge, skill or any other ability to contend with what he actually said.

Your BULLSH*T anecdotes won't help you. You have to deal with that he actually said. He didn't say this:
the White man... HATES BROWN SKIN _______ >> * YOU DID! * <<


So there goes another one of your WHITE BOY angles with the legs knocked right out from under it. IT IS NOT THAT HARD. Saracen said:

quote:
The concessions made by whites were not the product of the passive resistance of the Civil Rights Era, it was the direct result of fear. they became afraid to say no to our demands because we were threatening many things during ths time..Not the least of which was leaving their collective asses.

Some form of dousing our heat had to implemented, and so it was determined that if any segment of the black struggle would be given credit for succeeding iot would be the lesser of all of the black evils which was the branch of nonviolent tolerance led by Dr. King. By rewarding Dr. King with good press, and star status, the Negro was taught how to protest, the Negro was herded into a direction which was tolerable for whites...


Either you can contend with what he said or you can STFU!!


Or you can keep showing just how WEAK your PUNK AZZ is... WEAK because you say NOTHING that contends with what people actually say but pretend like you're debating people or raising points they neglect, etc.


Poor, poor RHETORIC MAN... All this time and never a damn clue.
But, with NO SKILLS & NO INTELLIGENCE, I guess this is what you have to do.


.
Peace....


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In my current company I can't help but notice that the majority of the BROWN SKINNED, upper level management are INDIANS rather than African-Americans. The cultural references, sensitivities and outlook ARE DIFFERENT as compared to MANY African-Americans that share their same SKIN COLOR but not their past. Why does the White man, who HATES BROWN SKIN seem to allow these other Brown Skinned people to get promoted but not Brown skinned people with a legacy of American slavery?


Before I respond, the indians that you refer too, are they East Indians?

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I just got off the phone with my parents who live in Philadelphia. There is now BLACK FLIGHT from within the more crime ridden parts of the city. Are these Blacks RACIST against their own kind? Or do they just want to get away from the bad elements - as most people would do if they could?



I do not think that there is anything inherently wrong with leaving a volatile environment, however, in this specific instance, where whites sbandoned the urban centers of America, I believe that their flight was not a result of a real threat, but rather due to a perceived threat. whites translated black activism, and militancy as a prelude to violence against whites...

This would be demonstrative of a disposition which I wish to establish. white views or perceptions of the Negro problem changed from the previous idea of an annoyance to that of a real threat...

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I just got a hair cut on Saturday. The television was tuned to BET. Though we are TOLD that THE WHITE MAN OWNS THE RECORD COMPANIES that put this music out.....ALL I SAW WERE IGNORANT BLACK MEN on the television and their EYE CANDY "Mutt" Women shaking their behinds. Did Hollywood really change? I saw Young Jeezy who was ANGRY and DRIVING A $200,000+ CAR in his video.



You will not get the argument out of me that white people are the source of all of our problems.. White people set in motion the pathology of the Negro problem, however, the device is now self perpetuating. We are our own worst enemy due to the manner in which we were conditioned...

Unraveling the adverse affects of 300 years of slve indoctrination requires more than complaints...People behave consistent with the traditions of their communities, if you will change a behaviour it will require active change of slave generating traditions..A school for Chefs is going to consistently turn out Chefs,,,Every once in awhile it will produce something else, however, the institution is geared toward Cooks..The Negro making machne created during the transatlantic slave trade is still operating, however, white slave masters no longer stand out front...We teach ourselves now...

Part of the process of making a slave is allowing a few Negroes to benefit and create a false model of hope for the rest. The Negro who ascends actually is oblivious to how he is being used..he thinks somethng wrong with the rest of the Negroes. In his mind they can just conform as he has and they will be uplifted, however, not all Negroes can work in the house...The money is in the fields...


The slave master was slick...



Whirling Moat
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Originally posted by Saracen:

Before I respond, the indians that you refer too, are they East Indians?


Indians, Pakistanis, and from Bangladesh

quote:

I do not think that there is anything inherently wrong with leaving a volatile environment, however, in this specific instance, where whites sbandoned the urban centers of America, I believe that their flight was not a result of a real threat, but rather due to a perceived threat. whites translated black activism, and militancy as a prelude to violence against whites...


Why do you worry about the REASONS why WHITES LEFT more than you seemingly worry about WHAT THE BLACKS DID WITH THE LAND once they were the dominate race present?

In the past 9 years the school bus stop of the community that I live in (or at least this part of the subdivision) switched from 95% WHITE to now 100% Black. I just saw another for sale sign go up as I drove to get some batteries this morning. I CANNOT WORRY NOR CONTROL what this OTHER MAN does in this free society. I CAN ONLY MAKE SURE THAT MY PROPERTY IS KEPT UP SO THAT THE PROPERTY VALUES CONTINUE TO GROW. I can only insure that MY CHILDREN LIFT the scores of the school that they attend. I can only make sure that no member of my family adds to the CRIME STATISTICS.

We can no longer afford to CHASE WHITE FOLKS as our primary mechanism for REPAIR. (My father called it "Regeneration" this morning).
quote:


You will not get the argument out of me that white people are the source of all of our problems.. White people set in motion the pathology of the Negro problem, however, the device is now self perpetuating. We are our own worst enemy due to the manner in which we were conditioned...


My family did not get out of their episode of ENSLAVEMENT a day before that of any other Black American. I AM NOT CONDITIONED with that which you speak. I REFUSE TO 'BE A SLAVE' to a CONCEPT of what SHOULD STILL BE AROUND MY NECK, having lasted for 135 years beyond our release from bondage.

MAYBE IT IS TIME TO TAKE A MORE "AFFIRMATIVE APPROACH" TO GETTING OUR CONSCIOUS UNSOILED FROM THAT WHICH SOME OTHER MAN HAS PLACED WITHIN IT.......REPLACING IT WITH THAT WHICH IS HOME GROWN, FUNCTIONAL AND NECESSARY TO ACHIEVE A CERTAIN END. To not do so is MENTAL SLAVERY.
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I do not think that there is anything inherently wrong with leaving a volatile environment, however, in this specific instance, where whites abandoned the urban centers of America, I believe that their flight was not a result of a real threat, but rather due to a perceived threat.



WHITE FLIGHT and BLACK FLIGHT are different. PURE & SIMPLE. The WHITE FLIGHT that started eras ago coincided with the creation of SUBURBS and this well documented complex Whites generally have where only a certain small percentage of the neighborhoods they live in can be Black, regardless as to the affluence of the Black neighbors.

The ideas of our resident BLACK INFERIORISTS are nothing but SMOKE & MIRRORS.

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There is now BLACK FLIGHT from within the more crime ridden parts of the city. Are these Blacks RACIST against their own kind? Or do they just want to get away from the bad elements - as most people would do if they could?


This STUPID mf ask that question then, when it is answered by noting how WHITE FLIGHT was enacted for different reasons and persist REGARDLESS... then he wants to ask:

Why do you worry about the REASONS why WHITES LEFT...?

Hmmm.... This P~SSY mf raises an issue then doesn't want his DUMB comparisons deconstructed. So, as always, he runs and wants to turn the conversation to something different. Something besides dealing with how F~CKED UP his bs was in the first place.



YOU ASKED THE QUESTIONS PUNK!!!

Black folks ain't like White folks with BLACK FLIGHT!


.
NMaginedHatred:

COULD YOU TELL US what the roots of BLACK FLIGHT are?

You should know. Shouldn't you? How are the neighbors by the way?
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COULD YOU TELL US what the roots of BLACK FLIGHT are?


Yes! As soon as you lay out ALL the DIFFERENCES and similarities of BLACK vs. WHITE FLIGHT.


Again, IT WAS YOUR QUESTION PUNK!
There is now BLACK FLIGHT... Are these Blacks RACIST against their own kind? Or do they just want to get away from the bad elements [like Whites, e.g., did/do]...?

WHITE SUPREMACY is at the root of BLACK FLIGHT. That most [all] "good" neighborhoods (places where people want to move to for schools, etc.) have been/are WHITE = a product of WHITE SUPREMACY. You know this. Have never been able to dispute this. Besides...

Here's a testimonial...


quote:
Originally posted by Constructive Feedback:

Nmaginate:

... Do you think that if you put forth the "Fantastic Sam's" story yet again that something will click inside of me?

By the way I see that they have a BLACK MALE barbershop in the same shopping center now. There goes the neighborhood - RIGHT? In YOUR VIEW - My "lilly White suburban lifestyle" has now been punctured as I am no longer exclusively the only Black guy around.

Am I a "sellout" or a PIONEER - Nmaginate?

Despite this area becoming more Black as Black people move away from the first ring of suburbs around Atlanta THEY KEEP BUILDING NEW HOUSES and my property value keeps going up...


http://africanamerica.org/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/79160213/m...081054543#9081054543



PROJECTING will get you nowhere, son... THIS IS DADDY YOU'RE TALKING TO!
But you can tell us more about your LILLY WHITE SUBURB. Were you a SELL OUT (i.e. that was the reason for you "BLACK" Flight) or were you some kind of PIONEERING?

Me, I'm still conflicted: CON-Feed = PUNK? or P~SSY? Confused

Anyway, how did it feel to be THE ONLY BLACK GUY? Hmm... And it's becoming more and more Black because of what? More Blacks moving in while Whites move out?


______________________________________________________


Note how DADDY put your sorry azz in the corner quick. You're serving TIME OUT with your mouth SHUT on this:


quote:
Your BULLSH*T anecdotes won't help you. You have to deal with that he actually said. He didn't say this:
the White man... HATES BROWN SKIN _______ >> * YOU DID! * <<




sck


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Originally posted by MBM:
"... We all fervently wish that the Negro problem did not exist, or that, if it must exist, it could be ignored."


The question is - do these comments still capture the essence of how America thinks about African America 40 years later in 2006? If not - how is it different?
Absolutely!! White people do not want to live near, work around or see Black people in their daily living...
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Originally posted by ma'am:
quote:
Originally posted by Huey:
Absolutely, MBM. The difference is that 40 years later, more immigrants, black and non-black, are trying so hard to isolate themselves from blacks born/raised here in America. They want to ignore us racially, cultural and moreso socially, but if it weren't for OUR dollars that we spend wantonly in their businesses that many have in our neighborhoods, some of them would just as broke or poorer than some of us.


Oh yeah. I'm sure the present state of Pan-African Black American activism to be blamed on immigrants.

Who are among the most associated with the "Black Power" in this country?

Marcus Garvey? Stokely Carmichael? Malcolm X? Louis Farrakhan?

Take a minute to read up on their ethnic backgrounds.

Immigrants and their children are not absent from activism in this country at all. And they have been visible from the beginning.

Yet, African-Americans try to paint immigrants as some kind of other. The enemy who takes our jobs, money, education, and sop up the work of "our people."

For better or for worse, Black immigrants are one of the fastest groups to lose their cultures and assimilate into "African-American." Even some of their home countries are turning into mini African-Americas. Some of the immigrants are doing great for the economy in many areas and have revitalized many neighborhoods during their waves. There was a time when Black immigrants from the Caribbean were seen as dangerous people to let into the country because of the political ideas of Pan-Africanism and economic self-determination that they brought in.

Still, the works for the immigrants are constantly degraded and insulted as leeches.

Yeah. Put the blame of the breaking up of Pan-Africanism ideals on the shoulders of the immigrants.

We all know African-Americans are all living the Pan-Africanism ideals and the immigrants are just getting in the way of it all.

Riiiiight.



Yeah, just like it's Black America's fault that most immigrants historically are taught from jump to hate and disrespect any black person born in the US, because supposedly they're lazy by default. Riiiiiiiiiiight.
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Originally posted by Constructive Feedback:
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Originally posted by Saracen:
Peace....

The 60's and 70's gave rise to a new perspective of the Negro, we were now viewed as "angry"....This was new...We shed our former docile persona, and became militant..

The reaction of white society was to cool the Negro flame...


Saracen:

In my current company I can't help but notice that the majority of the BROWN SKINNED, upper level management are INDIANS rather than African-Americans. The cultural references, sensitivities and outlook ARE DIFFERENT as compared to MANY African-Americans that share their same SKIN COLOR but not their past. Why does the White man, who HATES BROWN SKIN seem to allow these other Brown Skinned people to get promoted but not Brown skinned people with a legacy of American slavery?


I've also noticed that Whites here are less likely to feel uncomfortable around Africans who have immigrated to this country... compared to Black people here in America...

accept the one abroad... because you despise the one cultivated up under your oppression sort of thing..

an exotic fetish that is predominate among whites....
I've also noticed that Whites here are less likely to feel uncomfortable around Africans who have immigrated to this country... compared to Black people here in America...

accept the one abroad... because you despise the one cultivated up under your oppression sort of thing..

an exotic fetish that is predominate among whites....---Khalliqa

For some this will be a revelation.

Americans of unknown African ancestry are much more than just a 'skeleton in the closet'.

We are the reality of the personality of America.

All of America is working toward a healing...some more slowly than others.

European women are benefitted more African American-Americans of any demogrpahic.

An immigrant of any ancestral nationality is benefitted more, and in preference to, African American-Americans of any demographic.

We are still 'The Problem'.

We have yet to realize that 'We are The Solution'.


PEACE

Jim Chester
quote:
Originally posted by Constructive Feedback:
quote:
Originally posted by Norland:
There wouldn't have been a so-called "Negro problem" if the Caucasians had left well enough alone, built this country themselves after the slaughter of the Natives, picked their own dag-gone cotton, and raped each other.

We'd all be in Africa trying to stem the wars over there, knowing exactly who we were.


Norland: THIS IS EARTH.

I know of NO PLACE ON EARTH that has ever been WITHOUT SIN and absent of conflict between peoples or exploitation of some element of society.

If you believe that this WAS the case in Africa then you possibly have a bit of a fanciful set of historical recollections. Please recall that it was WARRING TRIBES that provided the European with a significant portion of his human resources for his forced employment as slaves.


fro

Those warring tribes....were not African per se but were Berbers and the sort from Asia Minor who conquered most of north Africa and claimed the land for their own around the 8th and 9th centuries...most Europeans didn't get to the interior of Africa until much much later. Who were these warring tribes? Asiatic, european and african mix who brought partiarchal[sp] to matriarchal[sp] Africa. True Africans were not apart of the european slave trade originally. This belong to the folks from foreign lands...fro
quote:
Originally posted by ma'am:
quote:
Originally posted by Huey:
Absolutely, MBM. The difference is that 40 years later, more immigrants, black and non-black, are trying so hard to isolate themselves from blacks born/raised here in America. They want to ignore us racially, cultural and moreso socially, but if it weren't for OUR dollars that we spend wantonly in their businesses that many have in our neighborhoods, some of them would just as broke or poorer than some of us.


Oh yeah. I'm sure the present state of Pan-African Black American activism to be blamed on immigrants.

Who are among the most associated with the "Black Power" in this country?

Marcus Garvey? Stokely Carmichael? Malcolm X? Louis Farrakhan?

Take a minute to read up on their ethnic backgrounds.

Immigrants and their children are not absent from activism in this country at all. And they have been visible from the beginning.

Yet, African-Americans try to paint immigrants as some kind of other. The enemy who takes our jobs, money, education, and sop up the work of "our people."

For better or for worse, Black immigrants are one of the fastest groups to lose their cultures and assimilate into "African-American." Even some of their home countries are turning into mini African-Americas. Some of the immigrants are doing great for the economy in many areas and have revitalized many neighborhoods during their waves. There was a time when Black immigrants from the Caribbean were seen as dangerous people to let into the country because of the political ideas of Pan-Africanism and economic self-determination that they brought in.

Still, the works for the immigrants are constantly degraded and insulted as leeches.

Yeah. Put the blame of the breaking up of Pan-Africanism ideals on the shoulders of the immigrants.

We all know African-Americans are all living the Pan-Africanism ideals and the immigrants are just getting in the way of it all.

Riiiiight.



Some whites want more white people into America from places like South Africa and Zimbabwe to keep the majority rule system. Cubans can fit into the white catagory as well. Its just amazing.

Even though Ethiopians and other Africans are running good businesses in DC and elsewhere theres still a problem. Theres gonna be cultural differences in any group,but I think there should be respect for people, its something people feel they don't need to give of whatever reasons.

I don't think anyone can say immigrants are leeches because it doesn't really make sense. America is a Country built and run by immigrants.

The man who created the American Constitution Alexander Hamilton was from Nevis.Caribbean people and others were working in America from the early 1900s and earlier.
Marcus Garvey? Stokely Carmichael? Malcolm X? Louis Farrakhan?---ma'am

This list should include Kenneth Clark the creator of the famous 'Doll Test', a Panamanian.

Strangely, it was not until recent years, like more post-1985, that I became aware of an animous.

As a young man, I was always surprised by, and admired, people who were West Indian.

I didn't quite know what that meant except that they were from 'The Caribbean'...somewhere.

I never encountered 'attitude'.

And I have yet to have that experience...personally.

Because of my work, associate with my advancement of re-establishing and ancestral nationality for we who are descendants of America's former slaves.

I encounter very strong, sometimes beliggerent, opposition from professors who 'headup', or even only teach in, African American Studies programs.

The same is true for immigrants from African nations in similar positions.

I suppose I should say, 'not all' before someone assumes that generalization.

But I don't perceive that as 'The Negro Problem'...which I see as a domestic thing.

I see this as a part of the 'black phenomenon', a very different thing.

I hadn't intended to go this far with this, but I did.


PEACE

Jim Chester

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