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Hey,

I am currently researching the media's effects on the recidivism rate of African American Males and would appreciate your help and support in gaining a generalized depiction of your views on this issue.

Lol... After viewing some of your initial responses I have decided to edit my original post (but not withdraw my stance). Rather than attack my position, inquire about my ideology. Is that not one of the main problems in our society today? If you don't agree with something, help to educate them or broaden their awareness. Institutions don't teach people how to view life. There is a major difference between stating that an entire culture or race is screwed up than my prior statement that some of our brothas continue to make poor decisions. Yes, I would say that my use of profanity was unethical, but I would not consider it uncalled for. It was just a passionate outburst. Through primary socialization, we learn cultural norms and ideas of what is "acceptable" and then we take those ideas into the world where our peers, the media, school, and various other institutions greatly influence our perceptions of ourselves, each other, and society as a whole. I won't present my entire thesis on this board right now, but you have to understand the power behind the Labeling Theory, the idea behind the looking-glass self, etc. The media's primary goal to gain high rating by reporting the truth in an entertaining way. I have to go now, but I will be back later to further share my views. I also look forward to you all sharing your knowledge as well.

The link below will take you to a brief survey that I have created and I would appreciate if you all took 2 minutes of time to contribute to my statistical findings.

FreeOnlineSurveys.com/rendersurvey.asp?sid=xgafb6pst76ucn1509416
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I feel as though the images portrayed within all forms of media can influence a Black man to continue to fuck up in a society that is designed for us to fail




We don't refer to our brothers or sisters as "continue to fuck up"...you need to rethink your approach. I can already tell that your survey is skewed, your own opinion is biased and so i won't be participating in any survey where the framer refers to African American men as "continuing to fuck up", and fails to include any incarceration related information in a blurb about "recidivism"...

I hope this is not what passes for scholarship at Hampton University.
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I am currently researching the media's effects on the recidivism rate of African American Males


I think the medias effect on recidivism rate is trivial. The medias effect on crime in general may be significant. But the environment that a child grows up in during the first 5 to 10 years is going to have a very strong effect.

That is why a small effect by the media could have a large effect over time. Suppose we said the effect was 1% per year starting in 1970. After 10 years that is 10.4%, in 20 years it is 22% so by 2000 it would be 35%. Of course then the adults who were affected by the media begin affecting the children.

Of course we have psychology majors helping to create television commercials to get people buying what they can't afford. So does that mean that people who are not "fucking up" are making a living getting other people to "fuck up"?

I started using my VCR to record shows and time shift so I could fast scan thru commercials in the 80s. Why waste my time and give some jerk the opportunity to mess with my head? I read the Hidden Persuaders in high school.

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BlankCanvas, stay in school a little longer. You are obviouly not ready for real life and the real world with all it's pressures/stresses with your wraped sense of reality.

Four years of Sociology studies at Hampton University and this is how you view African Americans males throughout the media as "fucked up"?

It this what they are "programming" to students in college these days? Failure before success?

I wish you well.
Hi, BlankCanvas! And wel to the board. Smile

First of all, I voted "no" to your question. I think on the whole, it's not all of mass media that is contributing to the demise of the (young) Black males. In fact, the protrayal of Black people on TV has been improved greatly from what it used to be. And while credit is not likely to be given where it is due from many in the Black community, there are plenty of positive images now seen on TV and in movies for Black men and women are shown in a more positive light.

However, there is still a lot of negative, stereotyped image portrayals being promoted and introduced to young Black males from within the youth culture itself. I am a strong believer that 'entertainment' in the form of commercial hip hop/rap music and videos probably has the most detrimental effect on young Black males and causes a continual reinforcement of negative imagery. Especially since it tends to be looked at as a "self-portrayal" or "real Black life" which couldn't be farther from the truth.

So, while we definitely have outside media forces not helping our situation, we are tearing ourselves down from the inside as well. And you're right, there needs to be a lot more 'taking of personal accountability' for that for which we, ourselves, are responsible for.

Also, (and I'm sure I'll be the only one Smile) but I thought your description that Black men are out there 'fuckin' up' was indeed appropriate. Not all, of course, or even most. However, at least to the tune of the 2 million-plus Black men that are either currently or have previously been caught up in the prison industrial complex system - and especially with respect to your subject matter - recidivism, and not to mention the many others who have children that they are showing no positive support to/for ... there may have been a nicer way to put it, but yours was certainly accurate and I can appreciate the honesty!! Smile

Good luck on your research and congratulations on your upcoming graduation from college! tfro It is indeed an accomplishment that you should be proud of!
One's belief system and socialization starts with the institution of family and at home, so that's where the strengthening of our minds begin. That's my view in a nut shell. How do ya'll feel?---BlankCanvas

I also believe the family the foundation for building the nature, and character of our children.

Too few of our families are succeeding in the task.

That failure is the result of ignorance.

The media does what society demands that it do...sustain the status quo.

Our families succeed when the parents come into the knowledge of who they are.

The parents need to realize thier 'color' is not their identity.

The media will not acknowledge that, because there is no demand.

Ipso...the media tells us who we are.

And...we agree.


PEACE

You are helping.

You are doing a 'Senior Paper' on race relations as the concept is impacted by those who would sustain, and repress us.

DUH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Race Relations is a concept created by Booker T. Washington.

He did not recognize his error until he was in the last years of his life.

Too late to fix it.

The 'color construction' of the society had taken that suicidal reasoning, and injected it deep into the structure of the society.

You might want to ocnsider changing the focus of your paper.

PEACE

Jim Chester
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Originally posted by BlankCanvas:
Hey,

I am currently researching the media's effects on the recidivism rate of African American Males and would appreciate your help and support in gaining a generalized depiction of your views on this issue.

Lol... After viewing some of your initial responses I have decided to edit my original post (but not withdraw my stance). Rather than attack my position, inquire about my ideology. Is that not one of the main problems in our society today? If you don't agree with something, help to educate them or broaden their awareness. Institutions don't teach people how to view life. There is a major difference between stating that an entire culture or race is screwed up than my prior statement that some of our brothas continue to make poor decisions.



What are you referring to as "recidivism"? How far have you gotten on your paper? What makes you think there is a correlation between recidivism and media?
Which age group do you belong to (Choose only 1)?

18 – 25
26 – 34
35 +



*2) What is your gender (Choose only 1)?

Male
Female



*3) Which best describes you (Choose only 1)?

Caucasian
Asian American
African American
American Indian
Other (Please Specify):



4) Are you currently enrolled in a school, institution, or university (Choose only 1)?

Yes
No



5) Have you ever been convicted of a crime (Choose only 1)?

Yes, a felony
Yes, a misdemeanor
No
No Comment



6) On average, about how many hours of television do you watch on a weekly basis (Choose only 1)?

14 hours or less
15 – 21 hours
22 – 28 hours
29 – 35 hours
35 +



7) How often do you watch or listen to news broadcasts or read a newspaper (Choose only 1)?

Daily
Almost Daily
Once or twice a week
A Few times each month
Almost Never
Never



8) What are your favorite type(s) of television shows to watch (Choose all that apply)?

Reality
Anime/Cartoons
Sitcoms
Sports/Special Events
Music/Performance
Dance/Performance
Fictional Series
News/Informational
Other (Please Specify):


9) Which genre(s) of music do you most enjoy (Choose all that apply)?

Pop
Rock
Country
Oldies
R&B
Latin
Christian/Gospel
Rap/Hip Hop/Reggae
Other (Please Specify):


10) How much truth do you believe is reflected in most television shows, movies, songs, the internet, radio, and newspapers (Choose only 1)?

100% Truth
More than 80%
About 75%
Between 60 and 70%
About Half
Less than 25% - Most of it is lies
There is no truth in media
I don't know



Blank,

What trends are you trying to identify with these questions?
Originally posted by BlankCanvas
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Posted November 18, 2008 12:22 PM
Hey,

I am currently researching the media's effects on the recidivism rate of African American Males and would appreciate your help and support in gaining a generalized depiction of your views on this issue.

Lol... After viewing some of your initial responses I have decided to edit my original post (but not withdraw my stance). Rather than attack my position, inquire about my ideology. Is that not one of the main problems in our society today? If you don't agree with something, help to educate them or broaden their awareness. Institutions don't teach people how to view life. There is a major difference between stating that an entire culture or race is screwed up than my prior statement that some of our brothas continue to make poor decisions. Yes, I would say that my use of profanity was unethical, but I would not consider it uncalled for. It was just a passionate outburst. Through primary socialization, we learn cultural norms and ideas of what is "acceptable" and then we take those ideas into the world where our peers, the media, school, and various other institutions greatly influence our perceptions of ourselves, each other, and society as a whole. I won't present my entire thesis on this board right now, but you have to understand the power behind the Labeling Theory, the idea behind the looking-glass self, etc. The media's primary goal to gain high rating by reporting the truth in an entertaining way. I have to go now, but I will be back later to further share my views. I also look forward to you all sharing your knowledge as well.

The link below will take you to a brief survey that I have created and I would appreciate if you all took 2 minutes of time to contribute to my statistical findings.

FreeOnlineSurveys.com/rendersurvey.asp?sid=xgafb6pst76ucn1509416

Question:
Does mass media have an effect on the recidivism rate of African American males?



fro Young brotha while you are doing your reseach on your thesis....my advice is to expand your research outside the angst of the media and onto the historical ramification of the socialization of Black men during before and after slavery. Research info from other countries as well to form a bigger picture cuz the media machine is a monopoly of a racist view which can have an impact on your study....in order words look for a broader perspective as you do your research. Also, I suggest you read Native Son [regarding effects the media had on Bigger Thomas] and Black Boy by Richard Wright, The autobiograhy of an African Boy, by Camara Laye, Slavery: Opposing views, David Blender, Publisher. Also, while you are at it Gangs" A Handbook for Community Awareness by Rick Landre, Mike Miller and Dee Porter; Voices From the Harlem Renaissance by Nathan Higgins, Malcom X, by Alex Haley, Destruction of Black Civilization by Chancellor Williams, and periodicals on Tookie Williams, Jim Crow, Segegration, Civil Rights if you haven't already.

This way you have the FULL CIRCLE analogy that will give your research a well-rounded perspective. Cuz it has been my experience while conducting research especially in American Libraries.....authors will lie lie lie about what they THINK the problems/reasons are in relations to black men. So do yourself some justice....and go outside the box of traditional research.....and expand onto the REAL truth in other venues. And take your take time, if you have it to get the real picture. Afterwards you will discover, it will be better for you and those who will benefit from your findings.....but JMHO is all. fro
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the media machine is a monopoly of a racist view which can have an impact on your study

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Absolutely!

From the only thing that you ever hear about or read about or see on television or in a movie, you would think that 90% or more of Black males in this country are in prison or have criminal records or sell drugs, or don't support their kids, ----media propaganda induced stero-types.

From the racist media propaganda stereo-typing of ALL Black males in America, you would never guess that there are close to 40Million African Americans in this country, not counting recent African and Carribean immigrants. When you see things from the true African American population size, you have to see that while 2million Black males are either incarcerated or are on probation (and unlike the propaganda implies, not both at the same time), what are the other 18 or 20 million doing?----Then, ask yourself the question of the media's racist propaganda impact on the percentage that it is actually impacting--and go from there.
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Originally posted by nuggyt:
The media has little effect on black men. Black men have a greater effect on the media.


That's crazy. Are you suggesting that "art imitating life" argument that says that the media, e.g., the music industry, movies, TV, is merely protraying what is going on in the larger society?

If anything, in my view, the media is telling people, particularly males, how they should be acting to get money, get the girl, etc.
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Originally posted by Kweli4Real:
Are you suggesting that "art imitating life" argument that says that the media, e.g., the music industry, movies, TV, is merely protraying what is going on in the larger society?

If anything, in my view, the media is telling people, particularly males, how they should be acting to get money, get the girl, etc.


Yep I a sure am. Entertainment tends to blow it out of proportion, but art imitates life more that life imitates art.
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Originally posted by Kweli4Real:
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Originally posted by nuggyt:
The media has little effect on black men. Black men have a greater effect on the media.


That's crazy. Are you suggesting that "art imitating life" argument that says that the media, e.g., the music industry, movies, TV, is merely protraying what is going on in the larger society?

If anything, in my view, the media is telling people, particularly males, how they should be acting to get money, get the girl, etc.


I'm not sure this is what the OP was talking about. Now that he/she has edited the post so I can't see it, I'm not sure. But it seems to me she's limiting her focus to the news media, instead of other media. She says:

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The media's primary goal to gain high rating by reporting the truth in an entertaining way.
It doesn't sound like she's talking about music & videos. Which, to me, doesn't make much sense. If anything, her focus should be on pop culture, especially hip hop videos and CDs.
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Originally posted by Kweli4Real:
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Originally posted by nuggyt:
The media has little effect on black men. Black men have a greater effect on the media.


That's crazy. Are you suggesting that "art imitating life" argument that says that the media, e.g., the music industry, movies, TV, is merely protraying what is going on in the larger society?

If anything, in my view, the media is telling people, particularly males, how they should be acting to get money, get the girl, etc.


Not only that but official studies have been done which conclude that the media shows more negative images of black people than positive and that it has a traceable psychological effect on white viewers from an early age. It helps program white people and non-black people, especially white and non-black people with limited contact with black people, that black people are violent, lazy, criminal thugs and unintelligent.

I'd argue the media affects Black men both directly and indirectly in how it affects how other people view and treat Black men.
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Originally posted by negrospiritual:
Just a reminder that the OP asks about the media's effects on black men and RECIDIVISM (presumably prison)...


a direct correlation has yet to be established that media imagery (agreeably negative) contributes to the rate at which black men return to prison....

his survey questions are not designed to capture any such data


That actually is a terribly conceived survey. The OP is concerned about recidivism, yet asks no questions in the survey about it. And the idea of an online survey to track something like that (or anything else, really) makes no sense anyway.

Also, popular media is aimed at a general audience, within certain demographic parameters. Presumably, there isn't much of a taste differential between black males of a certain age group who have been convicted more than once of a crime and those who haven't. So I'm not sure who the control population would be. Of course, in an online survey, there is no control group. So I guess never mind.

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