Black America's own leadership, and/or those in positions of responsibility are to blame! None of the material blames the lower class, the underclass, or those at the bottom of the social-economic ladder, but rather:

A. No good sleazy poverty pimping truly sacrilegious Black preachers.

B. Game playing using false pretenses to hold elected office inept blatantly incompetent self serving elitist Black elected officials.....most of these individuals are affiliated with the Democratic Party, the political party that has controlled the Black community for well over forty years.

C. Serving every other community but the Black community, while helping to free the truly criminal, and using their educational expertise to hang the truly innocent of Black America no good treasonous Black lawyers and judges.

D. Breaking up the Black family structure for illicitly gained profits no good Black social workers.

E. Placing minors including infants on probation no good Black probation officers.

F. The "Yellow Journals", in a Los Angeles Sentinel newspaper that publishes falsehoods about Black people to protect treasonous Black people or its friends in high places, who have brought nothing but harm to the Black community.

One example is strongly evidenced by the activity at "Killer/Butcher King" hospital, to which the Los Angeles Times makes it a point to expose this disgraceful activity, while that no good Los Angeles Sentinel, the largest so-called Black owned newspaper on the West Coast, refuses to expose corruption within the Black community. Journalists, newspapers, etc., are supposed to be tools used to inform the public and expose corruption in government.

Journalists and newspapers, are supposed to promote truth, and this would especially be the case of any newspaper and its relationship with its constituency.

The Los Angeles Sentinel promotes corruption in government, and chooses not to be informative or be an advocate of the people, the people in this instance being predominately Black people. Heck, even the people on the street know what goes on at Butcher/Killer King Hospital, because this activity has been going on since the 70s.

No good "Brentwood Burke" is a typical example of that Black elected official who plays games of deceit to use false pretenses to hold elected office. Supervisor Yvonne B. Burke, A.K.A. "Brentwood Burke", is truly a disgrace to what it means to be an elected office holder. Second District Los Angeles County Supervisor Yvonne B. Burke, has yet to competently serve the residents of the 2nd District, specifically as it applies to South Central Los Angeles, Watts, Compton, Inglewood, etc. Mind you, "Brentwood Burke" takes on the attitude that the atrocities of Butcher/Killer Hospital is some new revelation.

G. and/or the so-called educated but many times truly treasonous Black middle class.

.....elements of each that most surely exists within the Black community.


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...and don't let Burke's bio mislead you, ......the people who live in the district, as it pertains to South Central Los Angeles, Compton, Inglewood, Watts, etc., know that "Brentwood Burke" is a fraud, and has been a fraud the entire time she has held elected office!

2nd Los Angeles County Supervisoral District

"Brentwood Burke" has been more concerned about protecting her personal friends, or advancing her own political career.

Serving the people of the Second Los Angeles County Supervisoral District, as Yvonne B. Burke is sworn under oath, and mandated by law to do, are very removed from "Burke's" thought processes, as to the essense of the meaning of being an elected official.

An elected official is supposed to be a servant of the people. Elected officials are not supposed to:

A. Play games when petitioned for redress as it relates to the atrocities of government perpetrated against the law abiding.

B. Serve special interest groups at the expense of the district served.

C. Enable personal friends to escape punishment for betraying the people.

D. Use false pretenses to seek or hold elected office!


E. A through D amount to the disgrace, and treason that truly exist with the typical Black elected leadership!

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LETTERS
Exposing, Addressing King/Drew's Problems
April 16, 2005

Re "County Health Chief Is Rebuked" and "Pandering at Patients' Expense," editorial, April 13: I am amazed at the negative reaction to The Times' reports of medical malfeasance at King/Drew Medical Center. I am dumbfounded at the suggestions from people in the community and elected officials like Mayor James K. Hahn that the substandard care at the hospital is no worse than any other hospital, it just receives more scrutiny. Keep reporting this story. The Times' exposure of these abuses is saving lives. Many people will choose care at other facilities, and patients' family members will pay closer attention to the care provided to patients at King/Drew. Congratulations on the Pulitzer.

Susan Powers, Altadena

I have a suggestion for Los Angeles County Supervisor Yvonne Braithwaite Burke's statement "” "That hospital will be closed over my dead body" "” on the troubled King/Drew Medical Center. Let her stay there for a week and her body will be dead and they can then close this miserable example of a hospital.

Bob Launius, Oxnard

It is the same inept bureaucratic games with the Board of Supervisors and the Department of Health Services administration. Before they determine which systems in place are not working, they concoct new ones. Hire outside intensive-care doctors to monitor patients. Use expert nurses as foot patrols. Require the presence of a senior physician when doctor trainees are performing diagnostic tests or invasive procedures. Realistically, it might or might not be possible to carry out these patchwork procedures.

No mention is made of what failed in causing so many deaths and injuries to patients. Something went wrong, very wrong. They need to review their systems. Determine what is not working or what procedures are not being followed and have the courage to confront and discipline those who are responsible, regardless of race. Supervisors and administrators don't think it politically expedient to confront minorities. They put on a show at board meetings but do little confronting otherwise.

Gaston Serrato, Rowland Heights

Thank you for your continued coverage of the King/Drew Medical Center problem. You have the guts to say it like it is. Now if only those in power also had the same courage, the problem would begin to be fixed. Please do not cease to publish articles on this. It's a long-term, deeply rooted problem, and media coverage is one part of the solution.

Akemi Kayleng Knight, Los Angeles

Copyright 2005 Los Angeles Times

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The Bush Administration is in good standing!

Due to the Bush Administration, and the committment of the U.S. Armed forces, the people of Iraq "have freedoms they never had before" and the Iraqis are working dilligently toward establishing their own "Democratic Republic".

Heck, even Senator Ted Kennedy, who is as liberal as liberal can get, praised President George Bush on a job well done in Iraq!

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....and this is true, Black people need to get busy doing the constructive as opposed to the destructive.

Many Thanks to you, Scalder, for telling it like it is!


"In my opinion, when (and if) we finally realize that we need to spend money among ourselves, --(for the interest of ourselves)....we begin on a road of economic uplift. It does not take an urban league report, a commission to study it or the US government to implement it..... FIRST,WE (as a people) need to start to keeping each other accountable. We seriously need to keep each other in check for how we spend """OUR""""money. We need to get into the mentality that it's not 'MY' money but the 'communities' money. We have become a materialistcally driven people, obsesed with the hedonistic images that the mass media tells us are real. We go out of our way to buy chit that depreciates down to nothing the minute we walk out of the store. Instead of investing for future generations, we are too selfish, buying $6000 rims that don't do a damn thing but gleam in the sun, buying 20 and 30 pairs of tennis shoes at $80 - $100 dollars a pair. Breaking our necks to run to the koreans to get our nails painted, and to the indians 7/11 store to buy our '40s'. We'll spend hundreds of dollors on weed and won't spend a damn dime on a book about smart investing. Our young people are lost as hell, not knowing their ass hole from a hole in the sidewalk,...with their idea of being a black man is demeaning women, calling each other ni&&er on a record and bragging about how thugish they are and how much gold and silver is hanging around their necks and stuck on their teeth and robbin and killing each other for insignificant petty reasons.... Our little girls having babies and not even being able to take care of themselves, let alone an infant. Becoming grandmothers at the age of 33 and grown assed men still living off their mothers or so called girlfriends. And oh how we go along and glorify it all as 'keeping it real', and as someone posted in another thread...."Ghetto" has become the thang to be. So the first thing we need to do is start pointing all this chit out....emphasizing, day in and day out how backwards it is. We need to stop modeling the sorts of behaviors that have proven time and time again to only dig us deeper into pits of despair. Secondly, we need to start buisnesses....independently and collectively. And I'm not talking about some little rib shack, hotdog stand or beauty/barber shop either. We need to get into manufacturing, producing, farming, owning grocery stores, health care conglomerants, owning sports and entertainment corporations THEN be responsible stewards of these enterprises ---not like BET for example (whos majority programming is a mindless, pointless, waste of energy). We need to start hiring and not have to rely of being hired, producers instead of always being consumers and leaders instead of always looking for some group or sombody to lead us. Damn the government, Damn the NAACP, Damn all these 'so called' black leaders who cannot even get together on one accord, and set one collective goal or agree on an appropriate agenda. We need to start keeping ouselves accountable for the poor choices some of us make.....identify it, and then 'as a community' condemn that chit! We need to stop worring about Mr. Charlie and start focusing on the uplift of our own station in amerika. And if we do that.....we'll never have to worry about Mr. Charlie again. Money talks.......that other stuff walks. Hell, mexicans ain't took a damn thing away from us.......we're just content to sit back a squander it all away. Go into ANY urban community in amerika....you'll find hispanic stores popping up left and right....they are hiring their own, you'll see indian establishments, asian enterprises all looking out for themselves. BUT us, we'll pass by a brothers struggling business to go to the koreans shop to get a jar of grease JUST because it's twenty cents cheaper. Those of us who have the education, connections and skills spend too much time in narcissitic showboating: basking in the 'hey ya'll--look at me', I work for corporate amerika and I drive a Beamer, I have made it' malarkey...we have got to get busy yall. The government aint gonna do it for us, neither is the naacp, urban league, Farrakhan, Cornel West,....not even these mega churches with your T.D. jakes, Creflo Dollar and all the rest of them. NO my brothers and sisters, we are gonna have to do it ourselves. When I sojourned to the million man march,...I was sooo filled with hope and enthusiastic zeal. It was one of the best days of my life, but after the gloss has dulled and now that reality has set in, I have to conclude that Not A Damn Thing Came Of the Million Man March but a bunch of good feelings! But We can at least get that spirit up again, and this time do something!!!! Hey brother minister, what happend to all that money ya'll raised up there at the MM March? Hell, I want my chit back!" by Scalder

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The Black Community is in Fact its Own Worst Enemy!

The fact that our own Black elected leadership, and/or others in positions of responsibility have failed, more so than racism on the part of Caucasian America, is also the reason that the masses of Black people, be it from the slums of a South Central Los Angeles or an Oakland in the West, to a Harlem, in the East, etc., are kept in poverty.

Sincerely,

Michael Lofton

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yeah Lofton......black people wanted to be slaves too okay? If you can look past the vestiges of jim crow and the poverty that black folks were systematicallt regulated to...and the peverse discrimination that still exists in employment, housing and finacial lending....then you are just looking for excuses to rant and rave in a self-hating manner because of your experiences.....you always decry others and even disrespect the dead....but what have you done personally to change the things that you are so damn resentful about?
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In my opinion, when (and if) we finally realize that we need to spend money among ourselves, --(for the interest of ourselves)....we begin on a road of economic uplift. It does not take an urban league report, a commission to study it or the US government to implement it..... FIRST,WE (as a people) need to start to keeping each other accountable. We seriously need to keep each other in check for how we spend """OUR""""money. We need to get into the mentality that it's not 'MY' money but the 'communities' money. We have become a materialistcally driven people, obsesed with the hedonistic images that the mass media tells us are real. We go out of our way to buy chit that depreciates down to nothing the minute we walk out of the store. Instead of investing for future generations, we are too selfish, buying $6000 rims that don't do a damn thing but gleam in the sun, buying 20 and 30 pairs of tennis shoes at $80 - $100 dollars a pair. Breaking our necks to run to the koreans to get our nails painted, and to the indians 7/11 store to buy our '40s'. We'll spend hundreds of dollors on weed and won't spend a damn dime on a book about smart investing. Our young people are lost as hell, not knowing their ass hole from a hole in the sidewalk,...with their idea of being a black man is demeaning women, calling each other ni&&er on a record and bragging about how thugish they are and how much gold and silver is hanging around their necks and stuck on their teeth and robbin and killing each other for insignificant petty reasons.... Our little girls having babies and not even being able to take care of themselves, let alone an infant. Becoming grandmothers at the age of 33 and grown assed men still living off their mothers or so called girlfriends. And oh how we go along and glorify it all as 'keeping it real', and as someone posted in another thread...."Ghetto" has become the thang to be. So the first thing we need to do is start pointing all this chit out....emphasizing, day in and day out how backwards it is. We need to stop modeling the sorts of behaviors that have proven time and time again to only dig us deeper into pits of despair. Secondly, we need to start buisnesses....independently and collectively. And I'm not talking about some little rib shack, hotdog stand or beauty/barber shop either. We need to get into manufacturing, producing, farming, owning grocery stores, health care conglomerants, owning sports and entertainment corporations THEN be responsible stewards of these enterprises ---not like BET for example (whos majority programming is a mindless, pointless, waste of energy). We need to start hiring and not have to rely of being hired, producers instead of always being consumers and leaders instead of always looking for some group or sombody to lead us. Damn the government, Damn the NAACP, Damn all these 'so called' black leaders who cannot even get together on one accord, and set one collective goal or agree on an appropriate agenda. We need to start keeping ouselves accountable for the poor choices some of us make.....identify it, and then 'as a community' condemn that chit! We need to stop worring about Mr. Charlie and start focusing on the uplift of our own station in amerika. And if we do that.....we'll never have to worry about Mr. Charlie again. Money talks.......that other stuff walks. Hell, mexicans ain't took a damn thing away from us.......we're just content to sit back a squander it all away. Go into ANY urban community in amerika....you'll find hispanic stores popping up left and right....they are hiring their own, you'll see indian establishments, asian enterprises all looking out for themselves. BUT us, we'll pass by a brothers struggling business to go to the koreans shop to get a jar of grease JUST because it's twenty cents cheaper. Those of us who have the education, connections and skills spend too much time in narcissitic showboating: basking in the 'hey ya'll--look at me', I work for corporate amerika and I drive a Beamer, I have made it' malarkey...we have got to get busy yall. The government aint gonna do it for us, neither is the naacp, urban league, Farrakhan, Cornel West,....not even these mega churches with your T.D. jakes, Creflo Dollar and all the rest of them. NO my brothers and sisters, we are gonna have to do it ourselves. When I sojourned to the million man march,...I was sooo filled with hope and enthusiastic zeal. It was one of the best days of my life, but after the gloss has dulled and now that reality has set in, I have to conclude that Not A Damn Thing Came Of the Million Man March but a bunch of good feelings! But We can at least get that spirit up again, and this time do something!!!! Hey brother minister, what happend to all that money ya'll raised up there at the MM March? Hell, I want my chit back!" by Scalder


....Other opinions and facts of life exist to support what I have posted. Thank you Scalder. I'm going to use your material so that I won't have to continue posting mine. Scalder's material is very real, and definitely has relevance!

Sincerely,

Michael Lofton

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Scalder's efforts to rectify the situation(s) he decried are also real and also have much relevance.....he is not a negro that revels in the misfortunes of blacks and spends all of his time running to racist white conservatives and self-hating conservative negroes celebrating the shortcomings of the black race either.....like many others in here....he is giving his time, money and effort to correct the wrongs that exist........try it Lofton you may like it.........
Bush is not responsible for the demise, but he is responsible for being apart of the negligence of the needs of a black community that is just as much apart of this society as anyother creed. Someone tell me what happened to "No child left behind" and "Affirmative access" please?
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Scalder's efforts to rectify the situation(s) he decried are also real and also have much relevance.....he is not a negro that revels in the misfortunes of blacks and spends all of his time running to racist white conservatives and self-hating conservative negroes celebrating the shortcomings of the black race either.....like many others in here....he is giving his time, money and effort to correct the wrongs that exist........try it Lofton you may like it.........


......Well Kevin41, you are entitled to your opinion no matter how ridiculous or untrue your views are. I don't have to prove myself to you or anyone else, because I've already proven myself.

.....As for what I have done for others, that is none of your business. Any given day I can disprove the mis-statements of fact you have sent my direction.

Furthermore, again, I only give credit or praise where it is due. Unlike your contention, I have not condemned the entire Black race. Again, I choose my own heroes not you!

Sincerely,

Michael Lofton

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Lofton,

Kevin41 keeps calling you out on your denigration of the entire Black community by asking you to name a Black person [outside of yourself and your family members] that you consider noteworthy. Your response to this point has been to ignore the question or to say that you don't have to prove anything to him/her.

Kevin41 now asks you to put out there what you have done/are doing to correct the wrongs you seem delight in pointing out. Again, your response is to dodge.

Lofton, it's time to shyt or get off the pot.
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Lofton,

Kevin41 keeps calling you out on your denigration of the entire Black community by asking you to name a Black person [outside of yourself and your family members] that you consider noteworthy. Your response to this point has been to ignore the question or to say that you don't have to prove anything to him/her.

Kevin41 now asks you to put out there what you have done/are doing to correct the wrongs you seem delight in pointing out. Again, your response is to dodge.

Lofton, it's time to shyt or get off the pot.


My response has not changed!
HeruStar ...

No Child Left behind is leaving so many children behind that they don't want to talk about it anymore! Eek Plus the fact that more and more school boards are declining to become a part of it, and there's no money to put into it, so you'll probably never hear about it anymore anyway!! Eek And that's where it is. Big Grin

And since more and more schools are losing minority student enrollment every year ... and colleges are getting to expensive to go to anyway, Affirmative Access is pretty much sitting next to No Child Left Behind!! Eek
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HeruStar ...

No Child Left behind is leaving so many children behind that they don't want to talk about it anymore! Eek Plus the fact that more and more school boards are declining to become a part of it, and there's no money to put into it, so you'll probably never hear about it anymore anyway!! Eek And that's where it is. Big Grin

And since more and more schools are losing minority student enrollment every year ... and colleges are getting to expensive to go to anyway, Affirmative Access is pretty much sitting next to No Child Left Behind!! Eek


....that is not the consensus of the masses. Heck, Senator Ted Kennedy, one of the most liberal Democrats in the U.S. Senate could think of nothing but praise for President George Bush. President George Bush will go down in history as being a Great President, a President who truly made a difference.

Instead of pointing the finger at President George Bush, Black people need to "check their own elected leadership" and/or others in positions of leadership!

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Michael ...

Please name me just ONE of GeeDub's policies that have worked and been a success. Just one. Domestic or foreign. Name one thing that he as proposed and funded and is proceeding as planned that is beneficial to this country.

Take all the time you need. Roll Eyes
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Michael ...

Please name me just ONE of GeeDub's policies that have worked and been a success. Just one. Domestic or foreign. Name one thing that he as proposed and funded and is proceeding as planned that is beneficial to this country.

Take all the time you need. Roll Eyes


...no, you need to reply first. Name one program that the Democratic Party has funded, or devised that has not led the Black community to its own self-destruction? Let's see for well over forty years, the Democratic Party has used:

A. Game playing elected Black leaders who use false pretenses to hold elected office to keep the Black community in poverty!- Thanks, but no thanks liberal Democrats!

B. Black Elected officials, who when petitioned for redress of a government seriously gone awry, summons police officers to arrest law abiding U.S. citizens for exercising the U.S. Constitutional right to civil protest- Another legacy left by the democratic party that has controlled the Black community for well over 40 years. Heck, you may even be committed to a "mental institution" for exercising U.S. constitutional protections for redress of a government seriously gone awry!

C. Affirmative Action- no good, not based on fairness, but used to support personal friends, etc.- promoted by the Democrats

D. Social Welfare- no good, and promoted by the Democratic Party to break-up the traditional Black family structure for profit!

E. Prisons for profit over "free enterprize" in gainful employment- Promoted by the Democratic Party, by Black America's own elected leadership, as a major part of the economic structure of life in the "inner-city", to keep Black people unemployed, but prison bound, which keeps everybody else but Black people gainfully employed!

F. Black social workers and foster care providers illegally breaking up the Black family structure for AFDC benefits- takes you back to the "Jim Crowe" years.

G. Placing minors including infants on Probation- disgraceful university educated Black probation officers, another product of the Democratic establishment to destroy the traditional Black family structure!

H. Pimping the Black community out of its' last dime, no good greazy and sleazy pork fed pickled pigs feet fit to be hog tied jack leg should be wearing prison stripes no good sacrilegious Black preachers!- The support base for the Democratic Party's voting block, the preachers make the money through receiving kick backs or gratuities for delivering the Black vote to the Democratic Party. The Black Community receives nothing in exchange, because the preachers have already been paid for delivering the Black vote, and the Black community gets pimped over, and over, again! The forty year vicious cycle of destruction perpetrated by the Democratic Party, goes down good with a 40 year supply of 40 ounce bottles of "Old English 800" rot gut beer...meaning the Democratic Party is rotten to the core!

I. Social Security- Oh Thanks, Ebony Rose, I'll include this too, failing social security was started by the Democrats. Can't blame the Republican Party for decades of mismanagement and waste, that can be directly connected to the Democratic Party!

J. Failing public schools, that were failing before the Republicans ever set foot in the inner-city. Heck, school systems like the Compton Unified School District, to which the administrators, the teachers, etc., are Black had to be taken over by the State of California, because of all the corruption associated with teachers, administrators, and the like, because everyone was on the take, the losers being the students!- Another Democratic Party controlled master piece!....????talking about no child left behind, this is the height of leaving an entire school system, or systems behind, many thanks to the "Boss Tweed" mentality of Black America's own so called university educated!


...reminiscent of the notorious Boss Tweed and his cronies!

K. Killer King/Butcher Hospital(s)- Found in most all inner-city neighborhoods. Good place to have a bullet removed from your body, but stay away from the place if you need to have your tonsils removed, else, you may not make it out alive!- Another fine production of the Democratic Party, specifically 2nd District Supervisor Yvonne B. Burke, and/or other inept Black elected leaders who choose to protect their friends in high places at the expense of the lives of patients!

Sincerely,

Michael Lofton
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Who said he was? by blaqfist


....no, blaqfist you haven't blamed the Bush Administration, Racist Caucasians, the Republican Party, Slavery, etc.,

.....but there are many Black people who do blame the Bush Administration, Racist Caucasians, the Republican Party, etc. .......and those who make these statements more times than not, can not prove their claims.

...Mind you, the Democratic Party, many times through our own disgraceful leadership have, and continue to be large and in charge of the Black community.

...When some people choose not to hold their own failing leadership responsible, they have to have a scapegoat, and the scapegoats chosen are the Bush Administration, Caucasians, the Republican Party.

Our own Black leadership often play this game on the Black community. This activity gives them an excuse to do nothing but blame someone who had nothing to do with the situation!

....The worst racism or enslavement of all, is the racism and enslavement, in self-destruction that Black people perpetrate on each other,..... which is contributing to the extinction of the Black community!

The KKK, the Aryan Nation, etc., even make jokes about this, by saying, all we have to do, is let the Black community run its own course, give them enough rope and they will hang themselves. Their prediction is, without any influence on the part of any KKK, the Aryan Nation, etc., the Black community will eventually destroy itself! So, far their prediction is working!


Sincerely,

Michael Lofton
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If Bush followed through with "Affirmative Access" and "No child left behind" the KKK would Hang his behind.


....another unproven, incorrect, and untrue statement.

"On the other hand, for black students with strong academic backgrounds and composite S.A.T.s above 1000, there are simply no black colleges to match them with academically. Many such students-especially those who have grown tired of always being in a small minority in predominantly white schools-often want to believe that there are black colleges to match the Ivy League or other top-tier institutions. But the facts contradict this belief or wish. Every black institution in the United States has a S.A.T. level below the national average. Howard University has long been regarded as first among the black colleges and universities, but less than half the Howard faculty have Ph.D.s and less than half the Howard students have graduated 5 years after they enter." by Thomas Sowell

....and Thomas Sowell is both a professor and an authority on the subject.

"A study of the Berkeley student body found that those minority students admitted with higher qualifications graduated at a much higher rate than those admitted under "race-sensitive" standards." Race base standards, and Affirmative Action must end, because race base standards, and AA benefits hinder achievement and success.

The Text of Proposition 209, which has made it illegal to promote Affirmative Action in California!

..........and in California, Affirmative Action has been ruled un-Constitutional!

Affirmative Action Around the World! ......AA has yet to help the masses or the millions in the underserved, the indigent, and/or the unrepresented to move up from poverty.

...and the failure on the part of our own inept treasonous no good elected officials, snake oil poverty pimping no good Black preachers, and the Black middleclass who protect, defend, and serve this misfit set, insure Black poverty, so much so, that ecomomic conditions within the inner-city are even worse today!

Since this is the reality of it, it would behoove the rank and file to rid themselve of this sleaze, that is if the intention is to move ahead, in their quest to provide for the best interest of the future posterity of all Black people!


....and it is useless to blame the CIA, the Mexican Mafia, the Crips, or the Bloods, for the failure to use common sense and/or show respect for yourself!

Affirmative Action is out because the masses of the people voted this out. AA was voted out because it has been unfairly administered, and ruled un-Constitutional!

...President Bush is committed to "no child being left behind".

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OCTOBER 16 - 22, 1998
Compton's Quagmire, by Howard Blume

It's now five years since the state Department of Education took over the Compton Unified School District. The mission was to throw out a corrupt and inept administration and show Compton - and everyone else - how to educate impoverished minority children. If the state's best and brightest couldn't do it, who could?
In short order, however, Compton Unified became a sort of Vietnam for state educrats. Although the state balanced the budget, it has yet to solve the twin riddles of crumbling buildings and bottom-feeding test scores. And instead of plaudits, the effort has brought on unending attacks from local critics, who view state administrators as invaders rather than liberators.
Last week, in a Compton school-district auditorium, state officials unveiled an escape hatch, a plan to return power to the local school board as soon as July 1, 2000. In the interim, a team of state-funded outside experts will offer advice ranging from contract management to test preparation. Importantly, the backers include both state education officials and some of those who've agitated against them.
"Things are changing in Compton," said school-board member Cloria Patillo at the locally televised hearing. "Watch in the spring of the year where our academic achievement will go . . . Our students are no longer hanging out at the candy stores."
For others, though, the war against the state continues unabated. Outside the hall, board member Saul E. Lankster led a straggling vigil of seven demonstrators. Into a hand-held mike, he sang the same words over and over: "Ain't gonna let nobody turn me around."
Inside, fellow trustee Carol Bradley Jordan accused the state of corruption and racist colonialism - virtually dismissing the notion that anything had ever been wrong in Compton's schools before the state seized control. That's a popular myth in parts of Compton, and a self-serving one for the discredited power structure that used to call the shots. It's also a potential harbinger of things to come.
As one state bureaucrat put it, "My greatest fear is that in two or three years down the road, [the state] determines that the school district can be returned to local control, and then they entirely muck it up again in six months."
Therein lies a dilemma for the California Department of Education. At its core, Bradley Jordan's argument is hard to reject outright. At no other California school district have local elected officials been barred from making decisions for so long, five years and counting. Bradley Jordan asserted that the state would never get away with this in powerful Los Angeles, even though L.A. has some schools that resemble Compton's. "We need some accountability," she said, "and you can't get that if you don't elect your own officials."
Even a state education official speaking off the record recognizes the merit of this logic: "They have a perspective that they have a right to their own district, and they honestly believe the Constitution is being trampled on here."
The issue of local control resonates deeply within Compton, which is mostly Latino, but still controlled by black voters. Many of the black leaders are old enough to have taken part in the civil rights struggle of the 1960s, and many more helped fight and win a local power struggle with the Anglos who ran Compton before they did.
The state ed department took control of the schools as a condition of a financial bailout, but the Legislature also assigned the task of improving student achievement. And the solution in this arena was never as simple as throwing out the crooks and incompetents. Very few schools have succeeded in raising the test scores of impoverished minority students. And Compton's test scores were the worst, in part, because nearly all of its 31,000 students fell into this category.
For their part, the state-appointed administrators never stuck with an academic rescue plan, nor did they establish scholastic benchmarks to measure progress. The state's failing in this regard was underscored by the familiar ring of last week's hearing, which featured a new plan that sounded a lot like some of the old ones.
The latest strategy was mandated by last year's Assembly Bill 52, which was sponsored by Carl Washington (D-Paramount), who represents part of Compton. The district will once again be evaluated and monitored, this time by a team of state-funded crisis managers under the auspices of the Kern County Office of Education.
There's really no easy exit for state education officials and their boss, state schools chief Delaine Eastin. If she pulls up stakes now, political opponents will forever tar her with the failure of the Compton takeover. Her mixed record in Compton already has become a refrain of challenger Gloria Matta Tuchman in her bid to unseat Eastin in November's election.
And what of the future? The current Compton school-board members give the state pause. For starters, there's Carol Bradley Jordan, the sister of Compton Mayor Omar Bradley, a vigorous opponent of the state administration. Bradley Jordan defended social promotion in her remarks last week and also framed the events in Compton Unified as a struggle for power rather than for student achievement.
Then there's Saul Lankster, who was fired from the Compton police force in 1977 for allegedly filing a false overtime claim. Lankster sued over his firing and eventually settled with the city for a reported $126,700. In 1985, Lankster was convicted on four charges of selling false diplomas from his driving school. And during a previous stint on the Compton school board, from 1977 to 1981, Lankster emerged as an apologist. He characterized district woes as a public-relations problem and defended administrators even after a grand jury concluded that Compton staff masterminded a massive cheating scandal, laboriously hand-altering answers from wrong to right on some 1,800 standardized tests. It was the greatest rise in test scores from that period.
But no one exemplifies the history of school-board hijinks more than Bernice Woods, who served on Compton school boards in the 1970s and 1980s and was returned to the board in 1997. According to published reports during her previous board tenure, the Woods family had four relatives on the payroll, including her husband, who was hired as a typewriter repairman even though he had no experience. Published reports also noted Woods and eight other people took a trip to Hawaii on $6,440 in federal educational funds intended for disadvantaged children.
In 1986, while still on the school board, Woods filed a workers' compensation claim against the school district asserting that she deserved lifetime health benefits because dealing with the superintendent caused emotional distress. In the course of defending itself, the school district challenged Woods' credibility with evidence that she'd falsified her resume - no record could be found of four degrees she claimed, including her high school diploma. And a doctorate - Woods insisted on being addressed as "Dr. Woods" - came from a school later shut down for being a diploma mill.
Woods did not win lifetime benefits, but was awarded about $30,000 for her injuries from a fall on district property.
Another board member is Basil Kimbrew, the onetime campaign manager of former Compton City Councilwoman Pat Moore, who was convicted in 1996 of extortion and tax evasion. Kimbrew, who turned state's evidence against Moore, testified that as Moore's fund-raiser, he was the unwitting conduit for money that Moore had solicited as bribes. Soon after joining the board, Kimbrew joined Lankster and a handful of others in an unsuccessful lawsuit to overturn state control. But unlike Lankster, Kimbrew has now changed course.
"I thought I was doing the right thing," said Kimbrew, who works as an aide to Assemblywoman Juanita McDonald. But in "my first year as a board member I was totally screwed up. I knew nothing. I thought I knew it all."
Kimbrew credits his turnaround to training from the California School Boards Association, which offers guidance to new board members. He's now helped forge a slender four-vote majority that usually sides with the state administrator. The fourth vote was sealed when state administrator Randolph E. Ward recently appointed his own choice to fill a board vacancy.
Without question, the key player in district affairs is the fifth state-appointed administrator, the 41-year-old Ward, an acclaimed former elementary school principal in Long Beach. Charismatic and strong-willed, Ward, who is black, has won friends in Compton because he neither looks nor talks like an outsider - though he's dismissed by local critics as the state's Uncle Tom. In an interview, Ward said he's steeled for such challenges. "I have purposely put myself out there as the target in order to protect my staff and allow them to get the work done," he said.
Ward's made some progress - extending the school year for low-achieving students, renovating several schools, and repairing or replacing roofs at every campus. In addition, Compton is one of the first school districts in the state to get serious about ending social promotion. Last year, some 1,200 students were told they would not proceed to the next grade unless they attended both summer school and an intensive, yearlong follow-up to enhance their reading skills.
Some of the students had been making A's and B's in their classes, and, in a miniscandal, one or two teachers apparently changed students' grades downward to better match their low performance on standardized tests. Naturally, some parents were outraged over the grade changes, especially those who learned of the mandatory summer school only days before the session was to begin. A handful of parents have filed a lawsuit over the matter.
"There obviously was a snafu," said Doug Stone, a spokesman for the state Education Department. "But let's not miss the larger issue. Do you go ahead and let the kids slip through when they're not ready to read at grade level?"
This time, critics found themselves in the odd position of attacking Ward by defending social promotion. While the jury is still out on Ward's administration, at least his sort of scandal bodes better for the future than those of years past.
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The Black community on the otherhand, leave's its own children behind. Activities such as a Compton Unified School District, and/or other instances, where the administrators are Black, have cheated their own community out of an equal educational opportunity, behind their own incompetence, greed, and criminal actions.

....Mind you, as reality would have it, neither the Republican Party, President George Bush, the KKK, the Aryan Nation, etc., had any connection to this activity, because the perpetrators from the top to the bottom of the crimes being committed are Black people, be it teachers, administrators, counselors, or otherwise!

...and the City of Compton, the Compton Unified School, are in good standing now, because the Hispanic community will not stand for this foolishness.

As Hispanics acquire their U.S. citizenship rights, Hispanics have voted to place their own people in power. The result being the removal of the blatantly incompetent, the greedy beyond belief, and the sleazy from the Black community, who evidently don't intend to obey the law, be ethical, or show respect for Black people or anyone else,.....

....mind you this disgraceful activity has kept at least two generations of Black students behind for well over three decades.

Sincerely,

Michael Lofton

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ACCESS. Me and my "hedonistic" "misogynist" homies do not have ACCESS to a real education. Bush and his administration hasn't given US anything tangible. Empty promises is the only credit to the black community that his administration holds.

Until I get ACCESS then maybe I'll trade in my spinners so that I can afford to give my baby momma book money for my son Ray Ray. Until then, I'm going to be the first to indoctrinate him into this world for what he'll be truly viewed as... A NIGGA. Since that's all we have to look forward to I'm going to make him proud of what he is, while placing an unexplainable rebellion inside of him, so that when they see him they see IT. Which is the Bolder on his shoulder. Because I've passed down generation upon generation of chips. Pretty soon that bolder is going to get too heavy and a New revolution will start. The first to get got will be field niggas like you Mike.
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So if you want you're generations to survive this revolution, then you'd better take the chip off your shoulder that you hold against your own kind, so that your sons will be fast enough to run and hide. For I'm sure that your cowardess is genetic.


....no chip on my shoulder, HeruStar, because unlike your contention the information that I have shared is valid.

Using this reasoning, meaning your reasoning, I would presume the many patients at Killer/King, six feet under due to the incompetence of you know who, also had a chip on their shoulder. The only difference between them, and I, is that I'm still alive to talk about it.

Be rest assured, the heirs of the victims killed by the incompetence of Black doctors, nurses, and administrators don't have any chip on their shoulder.

Can't blame the Bush Administration, the Republicans, etc., for the many instances of school failure within the "inner-city". The first line of defense to protect the best interests of the Black community, and/or being a Pro-black community, would be for the Black community to be the first and foremost to serve its' own best interests. The primary failure that exists, is within the Black community itself!

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Michael Lofton

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Affirmative Action is out because the masses of the people voted this out. AA was voted out because it has been unfairly administered, and ruled un-Constitutional!

...President Bush is committed to "no child being left behind".




Lofton.....the supreme court allowed AA and did not rule it as unconstitutional.....now since some racist inbred hicks and their loyal negro following voted it out because the racists do not want to see blacks attain education and professional inclusion, and the loyal negroes wanted YT all to themselves.....that does not make AA unconstitutional...that statement of yours is very inaccurate...so in the middle of your rants and raves....at least get your shit straight.................
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Affirmative Action is out because the masses of the people voted this out. AA was voted out because it has been unfairly administered, and ruled un-Constitutional!

...President Bush is committed to "no child being left behind".


Lofton.....the supreme court allowed AA and did not rule it as unconstitutional.....now since some racist inbred hicks and their loyal negro following voted it out because the racists do not want to see blacks attain education and professional inclusion, and the loyal negroes wanted YT all to themselves.....that does not make AA unconstitutional...that statement of yours is very inaccurate...so in the middle of your rants and raves....at least get your shit straight.................


California Proposition 209

....I should say the California Supreme Court has ruled Affirmative Action un-Constitutional. The majority of the people voted for Proposition 209, which ended affirmative action in California! My facts are very straight!

....Heck, the individuals who run AA programs look out for their own personal friends, cronies, etc., and this has yet to benefit Black people on mass.


Just Kick Affirmative Action to the Curb, because competency would render Affirmative Action meaningless!

AA had nothing to do with financing or providing any educational opportunity to a higher education in my life.

Even if AA was offered I would not have any interest in AA. I don't need the crutch of any AA benefits to compete with anyone!

....now as to the Hat-n-Hand-Handkerchief-Head-Negro-in-that-Flunky-House-Nigger..... the individuals in A through G below, and/or as referenced by Scalder's reality, definitely fit the description of either misfits or that Hat-n-Hand-Handkerchief-Head-Negro-in-that-Flunky-House-Nigger!

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Black America's own leadership, and/or those in positions of responsibility are to blame! None of the material blames the lower class, the underclass, or those at the bottom of the social-economic ladder, but rather:

A. No good sleazy poverty pimping truly sacrilegious Black preachers.

B. Game playing using false pretenses to hold elected office inept blatantly incompetent self serving elitist Black elected officials.....most of these individuals are affiliated with the Democratic Party, the political party that has controlled the Black community for well over forty years.

C. Serving every other community but the Black community, while helping to free the truly criminal, and using their educational expertise to hang the truly innocent of Black America no good treasonous Black lawyers and judges.

D. Breaking up the Black family structure for illicitly gained profits no good Black social workers.

E. Placing minors including infants on probation no good Black probation officers.

F. The "Yellow Journals", in a Los Angeles Sentinel newspaper that publishes falsehoods about Black people to protect treasonous Black people or its friends in high places, who have brought nothing but harm to the Black community.

One example is strongly evidenced by the activity at "Killer/Butcher King" hospital, to which the Los Angeles Times makes it a point to expose this disgraceful activity, while that no good Los Angeles Sentinel, the largest so-called Black owned newspaper on the West Coast, refuses to expose corruption within the Black community. Journalists, newspapers, etc., are supposed to be tools used to inform the public and expose corruption in government.

Journalists and newspapers, are supposed to promote truth, and this would especially be the case of any newspaper and its relationship with its constituency.

The Los Angeles Sentinel promotes corruption in government, and chooses not to be informative or be an advocate of the people, the people in this instance being predominately Black people. Heck, even the people on the street know what goes on at Butcher/Killer King Hospital, because this activity has been going on since the 70s.

No good "Brentwood Burke" is a typical example of that Black elected official who plays games of deceit to use false pretenses to hold elected office. Supervisor Yvonne B. Burke, A.K.A. "Brentwood Burke", is truly a disgrace to what it means to be an elected office holder. Second District Los Angeles County Supervisor Yvonne B. Burke, has yet to competently serve the residents of the 2nd District, specifically as it applies to South Central Los Angeles, Watts, Compton, Inglewood, etc. Mind you, "Brentwood Burke" takes on the attitude that the atrocities of Butcher/Killer Hospital is some new revelation.

G. and/or the so-called educated but many times truly treasonous Black middle class.

.....elements of each that most surely exists within the Black community.


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...and don't let Burke's bio mislead you, ......the people who live in the district, as it pertains to South Central Los Angeles, Compton, Inglewood, Watts, etc., know that "Brentwood Burke" is a fraud, and has been a fraud the entire time she has held elected office!

2nd Los Angeles County Supervisoral District

"Brentwood Burke" has been more concerned about protecting her personal friends, or advancing her own political career.

Serving the people of the Second Los Angeles County Supervisoral District, as Yvonne B. Burke is sworn under oath, and mandated by law to do, are very removed from "Burke's" thought processes, as to the essense of the meaning of being an elected official.

An elected official is supposed to be a servant of the people. Elected officials are not supposed to:

A. Play games when petitioned for redress as it relates to the atrocities of government perpetrated against the law abiding.

B. Serve special interest groups at the expense of the district served.

C. Enable personal friends to escape punishment for betraying the people.

D. Use false pretenses to seek or hold elected office!


E. A through D amount to the disgrace, and treason that truly exist with the typical Black elected leadership!

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Exposing, Addressing King/Drew's Problems
April 16, 2005

Re "County Health Chief Is Rebuked" and "Pandering at Patients' Expense," editorial, April 13: I am amazed at the negative reaction to The Times' reports of medical malfeasance at King/Drew Medical Center. I am dumbfounded at the suggestions from people in the community and elected officials like Mayor James K. Hahn that the substandard care at the hospital is no worse than any other hospital, it just receives more scrutiny. Keep reporting this story. The Times' exposure of these abuses is saving lives. Many people will choose care at other facilities, and patients' family members will pay closer attention to the care provided to patients at King/Drew. Congratulations on the Pulitzer.

Susan Powers, Altadena

I have a suggestion for Los Angeles County Supervisor Yvonne Braithwaite Burke's statement "” "That hospital will be closed over my dead body" "” on the troubled King/Drew Medical Center. Let her stay there for a week and her body will be dead and they can then close this miserable example of a hospital.

Bob Launius, Oxnard

It is the same inept bureaucratic games with the Board of Supervisors and the Department of Health Services administration. Before they determine which systems in place are not working, they concoct new ones. Hire outside intensive-care doctors to monitor patients. Use expert nurses as foot patrols. Require the presence of a senior physician when doctor trainees are performing diagnostic tests or invasive procedures. Realistically, it might or might not be possible to carry out these patchwork procedures.

No mention is made of what failed in causing so many deaths and injuries to patients. Something went wrong, very wrong. They need to review their systems. Determine what is not working or what procedures are not being followed and have the courage to confront and discipline those who are responsible, regardless of race. Supervisors and administrators don't think it politically expedient to confront minorities. They put on a show at board meetings but do little confronting otherwise.

Gaston Serrato, Rowland Heights

Thank you for your continued coverage of the King/Drew Medical Center problem. You have the guts to say it like it is. Now if only those in power also had the same courage, the problem would begin to be fixed. Please do not cease to publish articles on this. It's a long-term, deeply rooted problem, and media coverage is one part of the solution.

Akemi Kayleng Knight, Los Angeles

Copyright 2005 Los Angeles Times

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The Bush Administration is in good standing!

Due to the Bush Administration, and the committment of the U.S. Armed forces, the people of Iraq "have freedoms they never had before" and the Iraqis are working dilligently toward establishing their own "Democratic Republic".

Heck, even Senator Ted Kennedy, who is as liberal as liberal can get, praised President George Bush on a job well done in Iraq!

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....and this is true, Black people need to get busy doing the constructive as opposed to the destructive.

Many Thanks to you, Scalder, for telling it like it is!


"In my opinion, when (and if) we finally realize that we need to spend money among ourselves, --(for the interest of ourselves)....we begin on a road of economic uplift. It does not take an urban league report, a commission to study it or the US government to implement it..... FIRST,WE (as a people) need to start to keeping each other accountable. We seriously need to keep each other in check for how we spend """OUR""""money. We need to get into the mentality that it's not 'MY' money but the 'communities' money. We have become a materialistcally driven people, obsesed with the hedonistic images that the mass media tells us are real. We go out of our way to buy chit that depreciates down to nothing the minute we walk out of the store. Instead of investing for future generations, we are too selfish, buying $6000 rims that don't do a damn thing but gleam in the sun, buying 20 and 30 pairs of tennis shoes at $80 - $100 dollars a pair. Breaking our necks to run to the koreans to get our nails painted, and to the indians 7/11 store to buy our '40s'. We'll spend hundreds of dollors on weed and won't spend a damn dime on a book about smart investing. Our young people are lost as hell, not knowing their ass hole from a hole in the sidewalk,...with their idea of being a black man is demeaning women, calling each other ni&&er on a record and bragging about how thugish they are and how much gold and silver is hanging around their necks and stuck on their teeth and robbin and killing each other for insignificant petty reasons.... Our little girls having babies and not even being able to take care of themselves, let alone an infant. Becoming grandmothers at the age of 33 and grown assed men still living off their mothers or so called girlfriends. And oh how we go along and glorify it all as 'keeping it real', and as someone posted in another thread...."Ghetto" has become the thang to be. So the first thing we need to do is start pointing all this chit out....emphasizing, day in and day out how backwards it is. We need to stop modeling the sorts of behaviors that have proven time and time again to only dig us deeper into pits of despair. Secondly, we need to start buisnesses....independently and collectively. And I'm not talking about some little rib shack, hotdog stand or beauty/barber shop either. We need to get into manufacturing, producing, farming, owning grocery stores, health care conglomerants, owning sports and entertainment corporations THEN be responsible stewards of these enterprises ---not like BET for example (whos majority programming is a mindless, pointless, waste of energy). We need to start hiring and not have to rely of being hired, producers instead of always being consumers and leaders instead of always looking for some group or sombody to lead us. Damn the government, Damn the NAACP, Damn all these 'so called' black leaders who cannot even get together on one accord, and set one collective goal or agree on an appropriate agenda. We need to start keeping ouselves accountable for the poor choices some of us make.....identify it, and then 'as a community' condemn that chit! We need to stop worring about Mr. Charlie and start focusing on the uplift of our own station in amerika. And if we do that.....we'll never have to worry about Mr. Charlie again. Money talks.......that other stuff walks. Hell, mexicans ain't took a damn thing away from us.......we're just content to sit back a squander it all away. Go into ANY urban community in amerika....you'll find hispanic stores popping up left and right....they are hiring their own, you'll see indian establishments, asian enterprises all looking out for themselves. BUT us, we'll pass by a brothers struggling business to go to the koreans shop to get a jar of grease JUST because it's twenty cents cheaper. Those of us who have the education, connections and skills spend too much time in narcissitic showboating: basking in the 'hey ya'll--look at me', I work for corporate amerika and I drive a Beamer, I have made it' malarkey...we have got to get busy yall. The government aint gonna do it for us, neither is the naacp, urban league, Farrakhan, Cornel West,....not even these mega churches with your T.D. jakes, Creflo Dollar and all the rest of them. NO my brothers and sisters, we are gonna have to do it ourselves. When I sojourned to the million man march,...I was sooo filled with hope and enthusiastic zeal. It was one of the best days of my life, but after the gloss has dulled and now that reality has set in, I have to conclude that Not A Damn Thing Came Of the Million Man March but a bunch of good feelings! But We can at least get that spirit up again, and this time do something!!!! Hey brother minister, what happend to all that money ya'll raised up there at the MM March? Hell, I want my chit back!" by Scalder

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The Black Community is in Fact its Own Worst Enemy!

The fact that our own Black elected leadership, and/or others in positions of responsibility have failed, more so than racism on the part of Caucasian America, is also the reason that the masses of Black people, be it from the slums of a South Central Los Angeles or an Oakland in the West, to a Harlem, in the East, etc., are kept in poverty.

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Sincerely,

Michael Lofton

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So, ummmm ... Michael ....

Can I get an answer to my question, please? Confused

ONE proposed policy of Bush and his Administration that has been successful and it actually benefitting America right now? Confused

(P.S. If you don't know of one, you can say that. At least that's an answer.) Roll Eyes
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So, ummmm ... Michael ....

Can I get an answer to my question, please? Confused

ONE proposed policy of Bush and his Administration that has been successful and it actually benefitting America right now? Confused

(P.S. If you don't know of one, you can say that. At least that's an answer.) Roll Eyes


That's an easy one. Many individuals both within the U.S. and around the world, admire and praise the Bush Administration! The spread of Democracy makes it possible to maintain many choices relating to the freedoms attributed to the ideals of Democracy, that we all take for granted a reality, be it within the U.S., or where applicable for people in other places! Due to the Bush Administration and the many sacrifices of the U.S. armed forces, slim chance exists to where insurgents, and terrorists will take control of the U.S., and/or any ally of the United States of America!

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Developments in Mideast Soften Criticism in Congress, By Tyler Marshall, Times Staff Writer

March 7, 2005

WASHINGTON "” A dramatic string of positive developments in the Middle East in recent weeks appears to have deflated, at least for now, fierce congressional criticism of the Bush administration's conduct of the war in Iraq.

One of the administration's staunchest opponents, Sen. Edward M. Kennedy (D-Mass.), even said Sunday that President Bush deserved credit for what seemed to be a tentative awakening of democracy in the region.

"What's taken place in a number of those countries is enormously constructive," Kennedy said on ABC's "This Week." "It's a reflection the president has been involved."

Six weeks ago, in a speech at Johns Hopkins University's School of Advanced International Studies, Kennedy was far more confrontational.

"We have reached the point that a prolonged American military presence in Iraq is no longer productive for either Iraq or the United States," he said, calling for a phased U.S. withdrawal and comparing the involvement in Iraq with the quagmire the United States found itself in a generation ago in Vietnam.

But in Sunday's comments, Kennedy recalibrated his earlier rhetoric.

Although Kennedy repeated his call for an eventual U.S. troop pullout, his language was milder and less urgent. He stressed that any timetable for withdrawal needed the agreement of the new Iraqi government.

"That's the direction we want to go," Kennedy said. "It does seem to me that we want the Iraqis to know it is their country. They've demonstrated that with the election."

Another influential Democratic lawmaker, Assistant Senate Minority Leader Richard J. Durbin (D-Ill.), also set aside past differences with the administration over the invasion of Iraq, which he had called "the wrong decision at that moment." On Sunday, he said that decision had brought signs of democratization in the region that could benefit the United States.

"I think there is a momentum for positive change in the Middle East, and I think the Democrats support that," Durbin said on NBC's "Meet the Press."

Although both senators cautioned against reading too much into events in the region, neither said anything that could be construed as critical of the administration's policy there. However, Kennedy noted the continuing casualties in Iraq, where about 1,500 U.S. service members have died since the beginning of the conflict in March 2003.

"We still have a long ways to go," Kennedy said. "Two Americans are still getting killed every single day."

Overall, the senators' comments underscored a shift of mood on Capitol Hill about the Iraq war and the administration's Middle East policy that has occurred since Kennedy's Jan. 27 speech at Johns Hopkins.

Pessimism and frustration about developments in Iraq "” which had spread beyond the Democrats into the ranks of moderate Republican lawmakers "” has given way to cautious optimism, those who work in Congress say.

"It's a feeling that these are exciting times "” or at least the prospect of it," said Mark Helmke, an aide to Sen. Richard G. Lugar (R-Ind.), chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee. Lugar has been one of several respected Republican voices in the Senate critical of the administration's postwar planning failures in Iraq.

The skepticism in Congress was tempered by the Iraqi election three days after Kennedy's January speech. In that vote, Iraqis braved death threats to come out in large numbers to choose their leaders. The balloting followed an election a few weeks earlier in which Palestinians chose their new president.

Then, in a period of a few days last month, Egypt's President Hosni Mubarak announced a multiparty presidential election would be held this fall, Saudi Arabia conducted limited municipal elections, and Lebanese citizens came into the streets of Beirut to protest the assassination of their former prime minister, Rafik Hariri, and demand the withdrawal of about 16,000 Syrian troops. Those protests led the pro-Syrian government of Lebanon to resign.

"It's similar to the feeling we had between 1989 and 1991," Helmke added, referring to the years that included the fall of the Berlin Wall and the collapse of Soviet communism in Europe and, finally, the Soviet Union.

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Due to the Bush Administration and the many sacrifices of the U.S. armed forces, slim chance exists to where insurgents, and terrorists will take control of the U.S., and/or any ally of the United States of America!
Seriously... When and WHERE were there any such threats or concerns that "terrorists" would "TAKE CONTROL" of the U.S.???

You're giving Bush credit for BS that was/is non-existent.
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Due to the Bush Administration and the many sacrifices of the U.S. armed forces, slim chance exists to where insurgents, and terrorists will take control of the U.S., and/or any ally of the United States of America!
Seriously... When and WHERE were there any such threats or concerns that "terrorists" would "TAKE CONTROL" of the U.S.???

You're giving Bush credit for BS that was/is non-existent.


...again, if not in Iraq, the battle would take place in the U.S.

....Kill or be killed.

....but here again, virtually the entire Black community bowed down to a Michael Moore, even to the point of making him extremely wealthy through the very far fetched Fahrenheit 911.


....mind you, speaking of someone fraudulent, those who follow blindly a Michael Moore, have been tricked "big time".

I can think of nothing but praise for the Bush Administration, and the many honorable U.S. service persons who truly believe this sacrifice to be worthy!

...following in the foot steps of liberal Democrats, be it a liberal Caucasian in a Michael Moore, or gullible liberal Black people, is not in my best interest!

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Michael Lofton
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...again, if not in Iraq, the battle would take place in the U.S.
BULLSHIT!!!

You have no proof that "the battle" would take place here. Where is there even a shred of evidence that there were some war planning to bring "the battle" to the U.S.?

Again, as in full out war planning?

BTW, FUCK MICHAEL MOORE!!!

I asked you about your dumbass logic or rather that silly shit about Bush, in essence, stopping "terrorist" from taking control over the U.S.

Again, where were the "terrorist" plans to do just that? I mean... you do think it would take more than two planes hitting buildings to "take control"? Don't you?

Where is the proof of such a war planning, war footing, etc. from "terrorists"? When were the "terrorists" here threatening to "take control"? When did "they" make a claim that "they" were going to "take control"?

And, more importantly, when did "terrorists" get the means to "take control" over the World's Sole SUPERPOWER?

This BULLSHIT is even ridiculous for your ridiculous ass to say. Like there was ever some question that "terrorists" were going to "take control" over the U.S.

Please.... and FUCK MICHAEL MOORE again!!!
So what the fuck are you really talking about?
(Besides some more BS that you know you have no logical/legitimate reason for saying.)
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...again, if not in Iraq, the battle would take place in the U.S.
BULLSHIT!!!

You have no proof that "the battle" would take place here. Where is there even a shred of evidence that there were some war planning to bring "the battle" to the U.S.?

Again, as in full out war planning?

BTW, FUCK MICHAEL MOORE!!!

I asked you about your dumbass logic or rather that silly shit about Bush, in essence, stopping "terrorist" from taking control over the U.S.

Again, where were the "terrorist" plans to do just that? I mean... you do think it would take more than two planes hitting buildings to "take control"? Don't you?

Where is the proof of such a war planning, war footing, etc. from "terrorists"? When were the "terrorists" here threatening to "take control"? When did "they" make a claim that "they" were going to "take control"?

And, more importantly, when did "terrorists" get the means to "take control" over the World's Sole SUPERPOWER?

This BULLSHIT is even ridiculous for your ridiculous ass to say. Like there was ever some question that "terrorists" were going to "take control" over the U.S.

Please.... and FUCK MICHAEL MOORE again!!!

So what the fuck are you really talking about?

(Besides some more BS that you know you have no logical/legitimate reason for saying.)


"...Please.... and FUCK MICHAEL MOORE again!!!" by Nmaginate

"So what the fuck are you really talking about?" by Nmaginate

....but the hatred of President George Bush by Black people, and/or the ignorance on the part of many Black people, helped to make him even wealthier.

So much for FFFFkkking Michael Moore! If I was Michael Moore, I'd say keep on FFFFkkkkking me! Looks like quite a few individuals allowed themselves to be B.S. out of their hard earned dollars.

Oh well, FFF.....kkkk Michael Moore!.....but make him wealthy too! .....and double BTW, FFF.....KKK..... MICHAEL MOORE!!!, sounds like empty words to me, when the only ones being FFF....KKKK, again are Black people, except as usual they did it to themselves, all by themselves!

...Oh well, that is what happens when you are bigotted, ....bigotted against the Bush Administration, to which you lose your ability to think, .....and you become easy prey to be duped by anyone, duped in this instance by Michael Moore!

......can't condemn Michael Moore and make him rich at the same time! Looks like quite a few Black people jumped through their own hoop of ignorance!


...Is that the best you can do Nmaginate?

..... You may have succeeded in convincing gullible Black folks into blind unfounded condemnation of the Bush Administration, but so far, no matter how much you rant and rave, there is nothing that you can say or do that would make me a believer!

Sincerely,

Michael Lofton
Dumbass!!

I haven't made Michael Moore rich or contributed to anything that would make Michael Moore rich. When I say FUCK Michael Moore that's what I mean. So there is nothing inconsistent in me saying that.

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....but the hatred of President George Bush by Black people, and/or the ignorance on the part of many Black people, helped to make him even wealthier.

......can't condemn Michael Moore and make him rich at the same time! Looks like quite a few Black people jumped through their own hoop of ignorance!
When a poster named "MANY BLACK PEOPLE" or this character "QUITE A FEW BLACK PEOPLE" says something to you then I'd expect for you to bring them up. Until then, when you call yourself talking to me... talk to me, not Many or Quite-A-Few. They are not me.

But, I guess YOU CAN'T DO ANY BETTER. Can you?

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You may have succeeded in convincing gullible Black folks into blind unfounded condemnation of the Bush Administration, but so far, no matter how much you rant and rave, there is nothing that you can say or do that would make me a believer!
WTF??? are you talking about?
I don't give a FUCK about Bush either. One way or quite frankly the fucking other (in terms of things I talk about). So, I think you might want to speak truthfully (and with actual reference) about what I "rant and rave" about and try to "convince" people to accept.

I don't get a hard-on pro or con for "the Bush Administration"... You might want to lose your stereotypical notions before responding to me and get you off-the-point ass on to addressing how you come up with some "terrorists" were going to "take control" over the U.S. if it had not been for Bush BULLSHIT!!

Are you my childhood friend who said he was a "Black Russian" in the midst of the Cold War? Are you having paranoid delusions?

My bad. Stupid question. Your every post answers that. I didn't even have to ask... lol
....Again, I could less as to what you think of me. Your name calling, and unfounded ridicule of me, will not make or break me!

"When a poster named "MANY BLACK PEOPLE" or this character "QUITE A FEW BLACK PEOPLE" says something to you then I'd expect for you to bring them up. Until then, when you call yourself talking to me... talk to me, not Many or Quite-A-Few. They are not me."

I speak on my terms, and not yours! The only person you have control over is Nmaginate. Whether you will agree or not, far too many Black people indeed jumped through the hoop to make Michael Moore wealthier, namely because of their hatred for the "Bush Administration".

....and the gall of some people, who have the nerve to say that I rant and rave.

...again Kill or be killed. Good thing the U.S. troops are keeping the war in Iraq, or reducing the possibility of large numbers of insurgents or terrorists entering the U.S., from easy to access U.S. shorelines, or borders. An exceptionally well planned offensive strike takes precedence over a defensive strike any day or night.

If this conflict entered the U.S., make no mistake there would be many more casualties, as it relates to U.S. civilians being killed. This being said, the Bush Administration, the U.S. armed forces have earned praise!

I've said my piece, and your argument is yours alone!

Michael Lofton
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An exceptionally well planned offensive strike takes precedence over a defensive strike any day or night.
HUH??

When and where was/is the "terrorist" army-forces ready to storm the American shores to "take over"? You know... the shit that makes this "well planned offensive" make sense.

Where were there any indications that there was a "terrorists" army or the equivalent that could or would "take over" America if given the chance?

Talk about being gullible and blind.
They say the right words and they will quickly feed into your PARANOID DELUSIONS it seems, especailly considering your ridiculous notion about "terrorists" plotting to "take over" America or even trying to "kill" (all of) us.

Where do you get this stuff from?

Seriously? If that was the plan of the 9/11 terrorists? Why would the two or three planes (for which we apparently had NO OFFENSE or defense against) be the only thing they used to attack us towards those "take over" ends?

Hmmm.... Doesn't seem like they really were trying to "take over" considering how they caught us (*ahem* BUSH) with our guard down. And I'm thinking if they wanted to just kill a bunch of us they, obviously, could have killed more or had a number of waves of attacks instead of a single, solitary plane attack.

But, since you are so prone to making racial stereotyped groupings... I guess I should expect this puke-for-thought line of yours (and everybody else who got the chain email):
"If Not In Iraq" the twin brother of "Take The Battle To *Them* Terrorists Over There..."
"They say the right words and they will quickly feed into your PARANOID DELUSIONS it seems, especailly considering your ridiculous notion about "terrorists" plotting to "take over" America or even trying to "kill" (all of) us." by Nmaginate

....These are your words and not mine. I believe in America, the Bush Administration. Heck the 9-11 bombing killed thousands of Americans.

"That's an easy one. Many individuals both within the U.S. and around the world, admire and praise the Bush Administration! The spread of Democracy makes it possible to maintain many choices relating to the freedoms attributed to the ideals of Democracy, that we all take for granted a reality, be it within the U.S., or where applicable for people in other places! Due to the Bush Administration and the many sacrifices of the U.S. armed forces, slim chance exists to where insurgents, and terrorists will overrun, overthrow, disrupt, etc., etc., etc., with any major impact any territory of the U.S., and/or any ally of the United States of America!" by Lofton

I changed the wording in the above caption, but be it "terrorists" plotting to "take over", overrun, overthrow, disrupt or any other reference, the Bush Administration and the U.S. armed forces deserve nothing but praise!

After any New York Trade Center atrocity, it would behoove any Presidential Administration to do what is needed to prevent any future terrorist threat from becoming a reality. This being said it would behoove the Bush Administration and U.S. troops, etc., to attack, or else face being further attacked.

Again, unlike you, I can think of nothing but praise for the Bush Administration, and the U.S. troops in Iraq, who have carried the battle to Iraq, rather than risk further civilian casualties in the U.S.

That is your choice, Nmaginate, and/or anyone else of similar disposition, to be so un-American, or anti-Bush Administration.

That is your prerogative, and just as you have this right to choose, so do I.

Sincerely,

Michael Lofton
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You don't stand idle for any future threat to hit, after any 9-11. It would behoove you to attack, or else face being further attacked.
Who said something about sitting idly by?

No one has to buy into PARANOID DELUSIONS and/or blow things way out-of-proportions to respond appropriately to 9/11.

And see... look at this dumb Cracker Jack box shit:
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That is your choice, Nmaginate, and/or anyone else of similar disposition, to be so un-American, or anti-Bush Adminstration.
First, the only choice I indicated that I've made is not to buy into PARANOID DELUSIONS. PERIOD. Nothing I've said implies or otherwise indicate that I would "risk further loss of life to US citizens/civilians". Those are you Knee-Jerk, LEFT-RIGHT political Jump-To-Dumbass CONCLUSIONS.

And, really... you can do a whole lot better than this "UN-AMERICAN", anti-Bush BULLSHIT.

You presume that Bush is someone to be "for" as if that shit is or he is unquestionably "good". Those are your underlying ASSumptions and conclusions.

Who the FUCK is Bush to 'like'?
Again, LOFTON... I don't give a fuck about Bush. I hardly comment on him pro or con. So using Anti-Bush in a post directed towards me shows you can't address me but, instead, you would rather be talking to your Imaginary Friends, MANY & QUITE-A-FEW or somebody else. Not me.

FUCK BUSH!!
"Who the FUCK is Bush to 'like'?
Again, LOFTON... I don't give a fuck about Bush. I hardly comment on him pro or con. So using Anti-Bush in a post directed towards me shows you can't address me but, instead, you would rather be talking to your Imaginary Friends, MANY & QUITE-A-FEW or somebody else. Not me.

FUCK BUSH!!


FUCK BUSH!!" by Nmaginate

.....you've made your viewpoint plain. Although, I have qualms with it, that is your prerogative.

..but back to the topic. The Bush Administration is not Responsible for the Demise of the Black Community!
Perhaps you should start your own topic on how much you detest or don't give a "dilly" about the "Bush Administration"!

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Black America's own leadership, and/or those in positions of responsibility are to blame! None of the material blames the lower class, the underclass, or those at the bottom of the social-economic ladder, but rather:

A. No good sleazy poverty pimping truly sacrilegious Black preachers.

B. Game playing using false pretenses to hold elected office inept blatantly incompetent self serving elitist Black elected officials.....most of these individuals are affiliated with the Democratic Party, the political party that has controlled the Black community for well over forty years.

C. Serving every other community but the Black community, while helping to free the truly criminal, and using their educational expertise to hang the truly innocent of Black America no good treasonous Black lawyers and judges.

D. Breaking up the Black family structure for illicitly gained profits no good Black social workers.

E. Placing minors including infants on probation no good Black probation officers.

F. The "Yellow Journals", in a Los Angeles Sentinel newspaper that publishes falsehoods about Black people to protect treasonous Black people or its friends in high places, who have brought nothing but harm to the Black community.

One example is strongly evidenced by the activity at "Killer/Butcher King" hospital, to which the Los Angeles Times makes it a point to expose this disgraceful activity, while that no good Los Angeles Sentinel, the largest so-called Black owned newspaper on the West Coast, refuses to expose corruption within the Black community. Journalists, newspapers, etc., are supposed to be tools used to inform the public and expose corruption in government.

Journalists and newspapers, are supposed to promote truth, and this would especially be the case of any newspaper and its relationship with its constituency.

The Los Angeles Sentinel promotes corruption in government, and chooses not to be informative or be an advocate of the people, the people in this instance being predominately Black people. Heck, even the people on the street know what goes on at Butcher/Killer King Hospital, because this activity has been going on since the 70s.

No good "Brentwood Burke" is a typical example of that Black elected official who plays games of deceit to use false pretenses to hold elected office. Supervisor Yvonne B. Burke, A.K.A. "Brentwood Burke", is truly a disgrace to what it means to be an elected office holder. Second District Los Angeles County Supervisor Yvonne B. Burke, has yet to competently serve the residents of the 2nd District, specifically as it applies to South Central Los Angeles, Watts, Compton, Inglewood, etc. Mind you, "Brentwood Burke" takes on the attitude that the atrocities of Butcher/Killer Hospital is some new revelation.

G. and/or the so-called educated but many times truly treasonous Black middle class.

.....elements of each that most surely exists within the Black community.


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...and don't let Burke's bio mislead you, ......the people who live in the district, as it pertains to South Central Los Angeles, Compton, Inglewood, Watts, etc., know that "Brentwood Burke" is a fraud, and has been a fraud the entire time she has held elected office!

2nd Los Angeles County Supervisoral District

"Brentwood Burke" has been more concerned about protecting her personal friends, or advancing her own political career.

Serving the people of the Second Los Angeles County Supervisoral District, as Yvonne B. Burke is sworn under oath, and mandated by law to do, are very removed from "Burke's" thought processes, as to the essense of the meaning of being an elected official.

An elected official is supposed to be a servant of the people. Elected officials are not supposed to:

A. Play games when petitioned for redress as it relates to the atrocities of government perpetrated against the law abiding.

B. Serve special interest groups at the expense of the district served.

C. Enable personal friends to escape punishment for betraying the people.

D. Use false pretenses to seek or hold elected office!


E. A through D amount to the disgrace, and treason that truly exist with the typical Black elected leadership!

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http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/opinion/la-le-king16.1apr16,1,634894.story

LETTERS
Exposing, Addressing King/Drew's Problems
April 16, 2005

Re "County Health Chief Is Rebuked" and "Pandering at Patients' Expense," editorial, April 13: I am amazed at the negative reaction to The Times' reports of medical malfeasance at King/Drew Medical Center. I am dumbfounded at the suggestions from people in the community and elected officials like Mayor James K. Hahn that the substandard care at the hospital is no worse than any other hospital, it just receives more scrutiny. Keep reporting this story. The Times' exposure of these abuses is saving lives. Many people will choose care at other facilities, and patients' family members will pay closer attention to the care provided to patients at King/Drew. Congratulations on the Pulitzer.

Susan Powers, Altadena

I have a suggestion for Los Angeles County Supervisor Yvonne Braithwaite Burke's statement "” "That hospital will be closed over my dead body" "” on the troubled King/Drew Medical Center. Let her stay there for a week and her body will be dead and they can then close this miserable example of a hospital.

Bob Launius, Oxnard

It is the same inept bureaucratic games with the Board of Supervisors and the Department of Health Services administration. Before they determine which systems in place are not working, they concoct new ones. Hire outside intensive-care doctors to monitor patients. Use expert nurses as foot patrols. Require the presence of a senior physician when doctor trainees are performing diagnostic tests or invasive procedures. Realistically, it might or might not be possible to carry out these patchwork procedures.

No mention is made of what failed in causing so many deaths and injuries to patients. Something went wrong, very wrong. They need to review their systems. Determine what is not working or what procedures are not being followed and have the courage to confront and discipline those who are responsible, regardless of race. Supervisors and administrators don't think it politically expedient to confront minorities. They put on a show at board meetings but do little confronting otherwise.

Gaston Serrato, Rowland Heights

Thank you for your continued coverage of the King/Drew Medical Center problem. You have the guts to say it like it is. Now if only those in power also had the same courage, the problem would begin to be fixed. Please do not cease to publish articles on this. It's a long-term, deeply rooted problem, and media coverage is one part of the solution.

Akemi Kayleng Knight, Los Angeles

Copyright 2005 Los Angeles Times

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The Bush Administration is in good standing!

Due to the Bush Administration, and the committment of the U.S. Armed forces, the people of Iraq "have freedoms they never had before" and the Iraqis are working dilligently toward establishing their own "Democratic Republic".

Heck, even Senator Ted Kennedy, who is as liberal as liberal can get, praised President George Bush on a job well done in Iraq!

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....and this is true, Black people need to get busy doing the constructive as opposed to the destructive.

Many Thanks to you, Scalder, for telling it like it is!


"In my opinion, when (and if) we finally realize that we need to spend money among ourselves, --(for the interest of ourselves)....we begin on a road of economic uplift. It does not take an urban league report, a commission to study it or the US government to implement it..... FIRST,WE (as a people) need to start to keeping each other accountable. We seriously need to keep each other in check for how we spend """OUR""""money. We need to get into the mentality that it's not 'MY' money but the 'communities' money. We have become a materialistcally driven people, obsesed with the hedonistic images that the mass media tells us are real. We go out of our way to buy chit that depreciates down to nothing the minute we walk out of the store. Instead of investing for future generations, we are too selfish, buying $6000 rims that don't do a damn thing but gleam in the sun, buying 20 and 30 pairs of tennis shoes at $80 - $100 dollars a pair. Breaking our necks to run to the koreans to get our nails painted, and to the indians 7/11 store to buy our '40s'. We'll spend hundreds of dollors on weed and won't spend a damn dime on a book about smart investing. Our young people are lost as hell, not knowing their ass hole from a hole in the sidewalk,...with their idea of being a black man is demeaning women, calling each other ni&&er on a record and bragging about how thugish they are and how much gold and silver is hanging around their necks and stuck on their teeth and robbin and killing each other for insignificant petty reasons.... Our little girls having babies and not even being able to take care of themselves, let alone an infant. Becoming grandmothers at the age of 33 and grown assed men still living off their mothers or so called girlfriends. And oh how we go along and glorify it all as 'keeping it real', and as someone posted in another thread...."Ghetto" has become the thang to be. So the first thing we need to do is start pointing all this chit out....emphasizing, day in and day out how backwards it is. We need to stop modeling the sorts of behaviors that have proven time and time again to only dig us deeper into pits of despair. Secondly, we need to start buisnesses....independently and collectively. And I'm not talking about some little rib shack, hotdog stand or beauty/barber shop either. We need to get into manufacturing, producing, farming, owning grocery stores, health care conglomerants, owning sports and entertainment corporations THEN be responsible stewards of these enterprises ---not like BET for example (whos majority programming is a mindless, pointless, waste of energy). We need to start hiring and not have to rely of being hired, producers instead of always being consumers and leaders instead of always looking for some group or sombody to lead us. Damn the government, Damn the NAACP, Damn all these 'so called' black leaders who cannot even get together on one accord, and set one collective goal or agree on an appropriate agenda. We need to start keeping ouselves accountable for the poor choices some of us make.....identify it, and then 'as a community' condemn that chit! We need to stop worring about Mr. Charlie and start focusing on the uplift of our own station in amerika. And if we do that.....we'll never have to worry about Mr. Charlie again. Money talks.......that other stuff walks. Hell, mexicans ain't took a damn thing away from us.......we're just content to sit back a squander it all away. Go into ANY urban community in amerika....you'll find hispanic stores popping up left and right....they are hiring their own, you'll see indian establishments, asian enterprises all looking out for themselves. BUT us, we'll pass by a brothers struggling business to go to the koreans shop to get a jar of grease JUST because it's twenty cents cheaper. Those of us who have the education, connections and skills spend too much time in narcissitic showboating: basking in the 'hey ya'll--look at me', I work for corporate amerika and I drive a Beamer, I have made it' malarkey...we have got to get busy yall. The government aint gonna do it for us, neither is the naacp, urban league, Farrakhan, Cornel West,....not even these mega churches with your T.D. jakes, Creflo Dollar and all the rest of them. NO my brothers and sisters, we are gonna have to do it ourselves. When I sojourned to the million man march,...I was sooo filled with hope and enthusiastic zeal. It was one of the best days of my life, but after the gloss has dulled and now that reality has set in, I have to conclude that Not A Damn Thing Came Of the Million Man March but a bunch of good feelings! But We can at least get that spirit up again, and this time do something!!!! Hey brother minister, what happend to all that money ya'll raised up there at the MM March? Hell, I want my chit back!" by Scalder

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The Black Community is in Fact its Own Worst Enemy!

The fact that our own Black elected leadership, and/or others in positions of responsibility have failed, more so than racism on the part of Caucasian America, is also the reason that the masses of Black people, be it from the slums of a South Central Los Angeles or an Oakland in the West, to a Harlem, in the East, etc., are kept in poverty.

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I'm not flipping this script for you or anyone else!

Sincerely,

Michael Lofton

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