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We've discussed here before how the "face" of American terrorism is decidedly black. Well, here are two more to instill even greater fear in the good God-fearing white folks around the country. bs



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Posted on Wed, Dec. 31, 2003



Bay Area pair with alleged terror links arrested
PHILIPPINES SAYS BROTHERS MET WITH GROUPS TIED TO AL-QAIDA
By Jessie Mangaliman and Lisa Fernandez
Mercury News

Two American brothers from the Bay Area have been arrested in the Philippines for alleged ties with Muslim militant groups linked to Al-Qaida and will be deported to the United States, Philippine government officials said Tuesday.

One of the brothers, Michael Ray Stubbs, 55, of Antioch, is under investigation by the FBI to determine whether he had access to sensitive information while working in the 1990s as an air conditioning and heating technician at the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory.

Stubbs worked at the nuclear weapons lab, which also conducts research on the human genome and biological weapons detectors, for almost 10 years before taking a medical leave in 2000, a laboratory official said Tuesday.

``The laboratory is aware of his arrest by Philippine immigration officials, and we are working closely with the Federal Bureau of Investigation on this issue,'' said Susan Houghton, a spokeswoman for the laboratory. ``It's really important to put into perspective his past connection with Livermore; he left on a medical leave and never returned.''

Stubbs and his brother, James, 56, a Muslim convert who lives in Newark and also goes by the name Jamil Daud Mujahid, were visiting the Philippines on tourist visas when they were arrested two weeks ago by Philippine authorities in a town south of the capital city, Manila.

At a news conference Tuesday, Philippine Immigration Commissioner Andrea Domingo said the brothers, in violation of the country's immigration laws, met with representatives of two groups with suspected links to Osama bin Laden's Al-Qaida network, the Abu Sayyaf and the Moro Islamic Liberation Front. She said the brothers also appeared to be raising money to build Muslim schools and mosques. It was not clear where the schools would be built.

Domingo said that there was no evidence linking the brothers to any past or planned terrorist plots on the United States, but that they have been deemed ``undesirable aliens'' based on intelligence reports that they were seen meeting with ``known leaders of terrorist cells.''

``These are all fabricated lies,'' shouted James Stubbs, as he stood with his brother, handcuffed, at the government news conference. He told reporters that he was in the Philippines to be with his pregnant Filipino wife.

A spokesman for the FBI in San Francisco said the agency is aware of the brothers' arrest but is not clear whether they will be charged once they arrive in the United States, which is expected in January. The U.S. Bureau of Immigration and Customs Enforcement also is investigating the Stubbs brothers, but ICE spokesman Marc Raimondi said the FBI is the lead agency.

``We don't have any pending charges,'' said FBI spokesman Chris McDonough.

The Stubbs brothers' stepmother, Deloncie Stubbs, 83, of Antioch, heard of her stepsons' arrest while watching television Tuesday morning.

``The news was saying something about terrorists, and I was just shocked,'' she told the Mercury News. She was surprised to see the brothers wearing bright yellow T-shirts emblazoned with the word ``Detainee.''

She said she does not know whether her stepsons, who were both born in Missouri, will be returned to the Bay Area or another U.S. location.

A woman who identified herself as the daughter of James Stubbs said her father was in the Philippines to spend time with his wife. Philippine immigration officials described him as a former teacher in California.

``They have no connection with terrorism at all,'' said his daughter, who answered the door Tuesday at her father's Newark home.

Neighbors who know James Stubbs described him as a strict Muslim who refused to give Halloween candy to neighborhood children because he believes the holiday has pagan roots. Two years ago, he distributed fliers in the quiet neighborhood to announce his conversion from Christianity to Islam, said two neighbors who asked not to be identified.

James Stubbs, they said, traveled often and was gone for as much as six months at a time. They last saw him the first week of December, when he returned from the Sudan sporting a long gray beard that replaced his normally trim one. He told his neighbors that he was soon heading to the Middle East.

The neighbors said they didn't know he was going to the Philippines.


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quote:
Originally posted by Les Apt:
quote:
Originally posted by MBM:

""They have no connection with terrorism at all,'' said his daughter, who answered the door Tuesday at her father's Newark home.




Well then, hey, if his daughter says he's no terrorist, then that's good enough for me!
Well, then, if it's reported in the media with strong inuendos Confused THAT'S definitely good enough for me! Big Grin

We know how everything that's reported is unquestionably true! Roll Eyes
Even if the details and stuff don't add completely up. Just the mere suggestion is enough! Wink
I am suprised that they waited this long to start to harrass African American males (who happen to be Moslem), to throw another rench in the mix of efforts of African Americans' fight against black men being stero-typed as "dangerous" or "unpatriotic" or so much more "violent" than non-black men. I especially was suprised that they waited as long as they did after one of the main suspects was obviously black and some others.
bs

Let's pause a moment and take the following test...

In 1972, 11 Israeli athletes were killed at the Munich Olympics by:

(a) Grandma Moses;
(b) The night cleaning crew at Rockefeller Center;
(c) Invaders from Mars; or
(d) Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40.

In 1979, the U.S. embassy in Iran was taken over by:

(a) Norwegians from the Lichen Herbarium of the Univers! ity of Oslo;
(b) Elvis;
(c) A tour bus full of 80-year-old women; or
(d) Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40.

In 1983, the U.S. Marine barracks in Beirut was blown up by:

(a) A pizza delivery boy;
(b) Crazed feminists complaining that having to throw a grenade beyond its own burst radius in basic training was an unfair and sexist job requirement;
(c) Geraldo Rivera making up for a slow news day; or
(d) Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40.

In 1988, Pan Am Flight 103 was bombed by:

(a) Luca Brazzi, for not being given a part in "Godfather 2";
(b) The Tooth Fairy;
(c) Butch and Sundance, who had a few sticks of dynamite left over from their train mission; or,
(d) Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40.

In 1993, the World Trade Center was bombed by:

(a) The entire cast of "Cats";
(b) Martha Stewart;
(c) Cheese-crazed tourists from Wisconsin; or
(d) Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40.

In 1998, the U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania were bombed by:

(a) Mr. Rogers;
(b) Hillary, to distract attention from Wild Bill's women problems;
(c) The World Wrestling Federation to promote its next villain: "Mustapha the Merciless"; or
(d) Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40.

On 9/11/01, four airliners were hijacked and destroyed by:

(a) Bugs Bunny, Wil E. Coyote, Daffy Duck, and Elmer Fudd.
(b) The US Supreme Court, trying to outdo their hijacking of the 2000 Presidential election;
(c) Barney; or
(d) Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40.

Hmmm...nope, ain't no patterns here. Darned if I know why we should ever even think about profiling....


Roll Eyes
quote:
Originally posted by Nmaginate:
We know how everything that's reported is unquestionably true! Roll Eyes
Even if the details and stuff don't add completely up. Just the mere suggestion is enough!


My point exactly.

Sort of like Al Sharpton and Tawana Brawley. Details didn't add up, but you believed it...

Roll Eyes

Couldn't possibly be because you're a racist,now, could it?

Roll Eyes
quote:
Originally posted by Les Apt:
quote:
Originally posted by Nmaginate:
We know how everything that's reported is unquestionably true! Roll Eyes
Even if the details and stuff don't add completely up. Just the mere suggestion is enough!


My point exactly.

Sort of like Al Sharpton and Tawana Brawley. Details didn't add up, but you believed it...

Roll Eyes

Couldn't possibly be because you're a racist,now, could it?

Roll Eyes
I don't recall commenting on my belief or thoughts about Al Sharpton and the Brawley case...

But since you can generally assume what my opinion is/was because I'm Black then whatever you say... Roll Eyes
My Not-Quite-As-RACIST-As-StormFronters WHITE Brother LES(s)!

(Is that some kind of WHITE POWER, you have?) Big Grin
Consult my post on the Sharpton thread in the Politics Forum.

Frown"Couldn't possibly be because you're a racist,now, could it?" Frown

What the hell do you keep WHINING for?
What???? You want a pacifier? Okay...
.... [un]ZZZZZZZZZZiiiiiiiiiippppppppppppp ....
HERE IS GOES!

Suck it and go to sleep!
rotflmao
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STUPID!

I guess you feel like RACIST (like yourself) will self-profess or something... Yeah! Just like guys in prison who readily admit they did it!

What's soooooooo funny is that in your attempt to show that I'm racist you've shown yourself to be racist by making rash stereotypical assumptions!

I'm Black so I must hold Al Sharpton and everything he did and does in high regard. Matter of fact, you and "your ilk" know for sure that I regard him as my "Black Leader"...

Well there we have it! Straight from the mouth of the newest RACIST to grace AA.org with his race-baiting!!

Again, remember you brought your White a$$ here!
That's all too telling about your state of mind... Seems like you aren't so secure about yourself.

DUMBA$$, Don't make assumptions about what I believe(d). I'm from the MidWest and wasn't privy to a lot of the facts regarding the case, though I was aware of it. And I wasn't "hoping" for anything concerning it like you were.

I followed whatever little bit I care to be bothered with knowing about it, which wasn't much. So, what?

You realize you are as RACIST as I make you out to be so you "hope" you can deflect some of that off on me? Your Misery Wants My Company...

Silly RABBIT!
quote:
Originally posted by Nmaginate:
Again, remember you brought your White a$$ here!


My "white ass"?

More Angry Black Man rhetoric.

Still trying to imitate Richard Pryor, I see.

Sorry you didn't follow the case as closely as we did here in the Northeast. It was a classic case of "White Cops are coming into our neighborhoods and harassing us. We ain't doin' nuthin!........"

Thankfully, following the alleged poop-smearing incident in which he so poorly chose to back the wrong horse, Chicken Little went underground for 15 years or so........only to emerge as a Presidential candidate (snicker! snicker!)hoping the public would forget the last time he yelled "the sky is falling!"....

Roll Eyes
Lamer!

Are the only Blacks you know the ones that end up on TV or something?

Nobody has to try to be like Richard Pryor...
But I have had plenty of White people who have tried to say I look like Blacks on TV from Mike Tyson to Denzel Washington... Big Grin

You are auditioning for the idiot roles of those type of Whites I've come across who obvious have no frame of reference other than what they see on TV, thinking that whatever they see is something new! or all there is and, since, they (you) would have to draw from those Blacks you see on TV to say certain things they more or less taught you that Blacks must do that as well.

Same old White guy projects his inadequacies on others BS. (Shall I say... NEXT!! Wink)

I hope you are boosting your self-esteem with all this inconsequential BS.
quote:
Originally posted by Les Apt:
bs

Let's pause a moment and take the following test...

In 1972, 11 Israeli athletes were killed at the Munich Olympics by:

(a) Grandma Moses;
(b) The night cleaning crew at Rockefeller Center;
(c) Invaders from Mars; or
(d) Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40.

In 1979, the U.S. embassy in Iran was taken over by:

(a) Norwegians from the Lichen Herbarium of the Univers! ity of Oslo;
(b) Elvis;
(c) A tour bus full of 80-year-old women; or
(d) Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40.

In 1983, the U.S. Marine barracks in Beirut was blown up by:

(a) A pizza delivery boy;
(b) Crazed feminists complaining that having to throw a grenade beyond its own burst radius in basic training was an unfair and sexist job requirement;
(c) Geraldo Rivera making up for a slow news day; or
(d) Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40.

In 1988, Pan Am Flight 103 was bombed by:

(a) Luca Brazzi, for not being given a part in "Godfather 2";
(b) The Tooth Fairy;
(c) Butch and Sundance, who had a few sticks of dynamite left over from their train mission; or,
(d) Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40.

In 1993, the World Trade Center was bombed by:

(a) The entire cast of "Cats";
(b) Martha Stewart;
(c) Cheese-crazed tourists from Wisconsin; or
(d) Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40.

In 1998, the U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania were bombed by:

(a) Mr. Rogers;
(b) Hillary, to distract attention from Wild Bill's women problems;
(c) The World Wrestling Federation to promote its next villain: "Mustapha the Merciless"; or
(d) Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40.

On 9/11/01, four airliners were hijacked and destroyed by:

(a) Bugs Bunny, Wil E. Coyote, Daffy Duck, and Elmer Fudd.
(b) The US Supreme Court, trying to outdo their hijacking of the 2000 Presidential election;
(c) Barney; or
(d) Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40.

Hmmm...nope, ain't no patterns here. Darned if I know why we should ever even think about profiling....


Roll Eyes
GOOD NIGHT!

Out-of-the-Closet RACIST!
May dear White brother, LES(s)...
rotflmao

I see you rather enjoy being here...
Helps you poor White self-esteem, huh?

Yeah, I bet this saves you a lot of foot miles from not have to search far and wide for Black company. You just wouldn't know what to do with yourself if you could talk to someone Black, would you?

SELF-ESTEEM is soooo important (to you).
That dismissal of Stormfronters and Lofton really made you feel good, didn't it?

Now you have proven to the Black world you are not racist! Roll Eyes
quote:
Originally posted by Les Apt:
quote:
Originally posted by Les Apt:
bs

Let's pause a moment and take the following test...

In 1972, 11 Israeli athletes were killed at the Munich Olympics by:

(a) Grandma Moses;
(b) The night cleaning crew at Rockefeller Center;
(c) Invaders from Mars; or
(d) Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40.

In 1979, the U.S. embassy in Iran was taken over by:

(a) Norwegians from the Lichen Herbarium of the Univers! ity of Oslo;
(b) Elvis;
(c) A tour bus full of 80-year-old women; or
(d) Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40.

In 1983, the U.S. Marine barracks in Beirut was blown up by:

(a) A pizza delivery boy;
(b) Crazed feminists complaining that having to throw a grenade beyond its own burst radius in basic training was an unfair and sexist job requirement;
(c) Geraldo Rivera making up for a slow news day; or
(d) Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40.

In 1988, Pan Am Flight 103 was bombed by:

(a) Luca Brazzi, for not being given a part in "Godfather 2";
(b) The Tooth Fairy;
(c) Butch and Sundance, who had a few sticks of dynamite left over from their train mission; or,
(d) Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40.

In 1993, the World Trade Center was bombed by:

(a) The entire cast of "Cats";
(b) Martha Stewart;
(c) Cheese-crazed tourists from Wisconsin; or
(d) Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40.

In 1998, the U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania were bombed by:

(a) Mr. Rogers;
(b) Hillary, to distract attention from Wild Bill's women problems;
(c) The World Wrestling Federation to promote its next villain: "Mustapha the Merciless"; or
(d) Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40.

On 9/11/01, four airliners were hijacked and destroyed by:

(a) Bugs Bunny, Wil E. Coyote, Daffy Duck, and Elmer Fudd.
(b) The US Supreme Court, trying to outdo their hijacking of the 2000 Presidential election;
(c) Barney; or
(d) Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40.

Hmmm...nope, ain't no patterns here. Darned if I know why we should ever even think about profiling....


Roll Eyes

You want to condone racial profiling? Alright let's start. We have 270 Million Arabs. Are we profiling Muslim Arabs? Christian Arabs? Jewish Arabs? Black Arabs? Brown Arabs? Or maybe White Arabs? Or maybe it's Islam you oppose? Cool, only 1.8 billion Muslims. Shall we profile American Muslims? European Muslims? Asian Muslims? Arab Muslims? Black Muslims? White Muslims? Canadian Muslims? Latin Muslims? Persian Muslims? Hmm...

Who's 7th Cavalry entered Wounded Knee, South Dakota and savagely slaughtered Lakota men, women and children in December 1890?

a) Britney Spears
b) Al Sharpton
c) Them darn Arabs
d) The United States of Amerikkka

Littletown Waller, accused of shooting eleven defenseless Filipino's, without trial, on the island of Samar, he was a marine from WHAT country?

a) Never Never Land
b) Some Arab country, originally named Littletown-allah Bin Waller
c) He must of been Filipino because Fox News said so!
d) The United States of Amerikkka

On the night of March 9-10, 1945, who dropped 1,665 tons of incendiary bombs on civilian men, women and children of Tokyo, purportedly aimed at "military targets"?

a) Pokemons!
b) Arabs, watching too much Bruce Lee
c) Angry Chinese
d) The United States of Amerikkka

Half-a-million German civilian men and women were burned on the night of February13-14 1945 by two massive firebombing attacks. Who was that carried by?

a) Spiteful Hitler
b) "The Jews"
c) Arabs enraged by Hitler's incompetence to annihilate "The Jews"
d) The United States of Amerikkka

The bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, costing 150,000 people's lives and hundreds of thousands more by the slow, horrible dead of radiation poisining, was implemented by whom?

a) Saddam Hussein
b) Osama Bin Laden
c) Idi Amin
d) The United States of Amerikkka

Who plotted numerous assassination attempts on Muammar Qadhafi, and bombed his 2 year old daughter?

a) Qadhafi himself, he never wanted a daughter!
b) "The Jews"
c) Them darn Arabs
d) The United States of Amerikkka

Who "accidently" shot an Iranian civlian flight in 1988, killing ALL 290 passengers, and compensated with 2.9mil to ONLY the non-Iranian victims onboard?

a) So-Damn-Insane
b) A-raaabs
c) Them Darn Sand N*ggers
d) The United States of Amerikkka

Who financially aids the Rogue State of Israel billions of dollars a year to perpetuate their continuous genocide of the Palestinian peoples? Ex: The invasion of Lebanon killing 17,500 innocent people. Also, the Dier Yassin massacre, April 1948. And much much more.

a) Anti-Palestinian Arabs who are frustrated with the way the Palestinians make their hommous.
b) Hitler's family, in compensation for the Jewish Holocaust
c) All of the above
d) The United States of Amerikkka

In which contry would you find police brutality against African Americans rampant, and racist groups such as the KKK? Example of victims of brutality: Abner Louima, Tyisha Miller, Amado Diallo and Margaret L. Mitchell.

a) Africa
b) Africa
c) Africa
d) The United States of Amerikkka

In which country were African Americans barred from living in the same neighborhood as the whites, prevented from attending the same schools and universities or sharing the same seat on a bus or a water fountain with white Americans?

a) I can't answer because I'm too "white"
b) Hey! Arabs are terrorists
c) At least we abolished slavery after 400 years
d) The United States of Amerikkka

Hmm....

[This message was edited by ArabianQueen on January 03, 2004 at 02:19 AM.]
Nmaginate:

How you can deal with people like this, I'll never know. There are a several reasons it's good you are here, but dealing with a mentality like this is high on the list.

But you know you're wasting your time. Without response he/she is just another weed withering in the African American sun.

Thanks

PEACE

Jim Chester

You are who you say you are. Your children are who you say you are.
quote:
Originally posted by James Wesley Chester:
Nmaginate:

How you can deal with people like this, I'll never know. There are a several reasons it's good you are here, but dealing with a mentality like this is high on the list.

But you know you're wasting your time. Without response he/she is just another weed withering in the African American sun.
Sorry... I guess I can't help it.
I guess it's a vice of mine. A cheap way to entertain myself.

I think some people call it "Feeding The TROLLS"...
You know some people just can't resist things like that. Like Feeding The Animals In The ZOO! It's something you just do.

I can accept that as a character flaw of mine.
But... the THRILL IS GONE! When a SUCKA starts to repost irrelevant crap over-and-over... I lose interest. Hate to be graphic but it's like losing an erection... Sh*ts just fucked up after that...

rotflmao

I'll try to restrain myself...

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