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These suckers don't know but they'll soon come to find out, they don't run shit in here forreal....

Heheheheheh...
Seems to me your ass keeps Running In Circles... cabbage

"Take My Word For It" has you running a marathon. Oops! I made a mistake. You can't be running in circles... because you will never return to the damn point of the thread, let alone support the very thing you're RUNNING FROM!!

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...it most DEFINATELY doesn't make you a better person if you can support your information with links and other various sources.


And I'm laughing... SERIOUSLY!! laugh

Dude, you're the only one concerned (and I should say obsessed) with this "better person" BULLSHIT! Supporting what you say is BARE MINIMUM stuff, Iron~ Something that's not even a concern or a burden for anyone without "I'm better" issues.

Really, what is that bullshit all about?

I will readily point to any number of posters here who are "smarter" and more accomplished than me. That's no sweat off my brow. It just seems like if you can anticipate things as you have (in all your crazy presumptions) then one thing above all that you should have been prepared for was providing some support for what you had to say.

The funny thing about it, my initial question-request was made in passing. Just a simple request for you to provide support for what you said SINCE YOU brought it up. You know, that remarkably IRRELEVANT piece of unqualified/unverified information.

Your chosen topic was: SUPPORTING BLACK LEADERSHIP (or Leading Blacks)

Now, I'm still trying to figure out how mentioning Black "slaveowners", etc. advances a discussion of that issue.

What's even more funny is, since you act like you've done so much research (i.e. observed my or our posting activities/manners)... what's funny is that you will find very little if any type of comments by me on Colin or Condi. But that didn't stop you from assuming, explicitly or implicitly, that I somehow "disrespect" them.

It's funny how "YOU PEOPLE" come to this forum with pre-conceived notions and, like the DEBRA-tant you are, you just seem to be too unprepared/underprepared for discussions when someone, like myself, doesn't fit into one of your pre-contrived, pre-conceived box.

"Afro-culturalism"... Big Grin That's so cute!

I guess me trying to "RUN" a real conversation, discussion or debate with you is something to be avoided like the plague, huh?

But keep RUNNING, Iron~
Keep RUNNING from your own words... bsm
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Originally posted by IRONHORSE:
IT IS THAT DEEP!!! IT IS THAT DEEP!!!

*Dancing around a campfire wearing a dish towel for a loin cloth around my waist*

OOOGAAA BOOGAAA, henry38!!!

Me run africanamerica.org UUMMGOWAA!!

Oh, by the way, if anyone is interested, here's the link to read on the first black man that owned white slaves in America

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/aia/part1/1narr3.html


First off, Ironhorse, as irrelevant as Nmaginate says it is, that link does not support the statement made earlier, that "the first slave owners or, if you want to get technical, endentured slave owners, as well as the first land owners were black. It says that there were some who did, but these ones mentioned here are not described as the first servant-owners.

(Wait, why am I bothering talking actual issues with this guy? Confused )

Second, Henry 38 ... Now that Ironhorse has addressed you with talk of loin cloths, dancing around a fire, "ooga booga" "me run things," and all manner of outrageously disrespectful stereotype comments about people from Africa, I expect to see from you, in short order, a ranting thread in the "?" forum entitled, "IRONHORSE, I WANT A WORD WITH YOU."
Nah Vox. You got it all wrong, I believe IRONHORSE is simply having fun with everyone on this site. I bumped into the IRON man last week and he informed me he was overthrowing MBM and taking over the site after which he will run the place with an iron fist. Incidentally he came over from BP with his wrecking posse to help him establish this coup.

As I said I am taking a ringside seat and watch the sparks fly. If I am taking a hit maybe I am sitting too close to the fire. I think it's best I move to the back seat and watch the show. I'm out.

You can read all about the ironman's agenda here
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Thanks, IRONHORSE,

What goes around comes around. Looks like a few individuals are recieving some of the same sarcacism, and disrespect, that they have sent my direction.

Mind you, the only thing that I've done, to deserve such treatment, is to express the reality that far too many of our own Black elected leaders are a disgrace, treasonous, etc., etc, and the associated foolishness of the so-called Black middle-class who promote these individuals.

Sincerely,

Michael Lofton


It's all good, Michael. I feel you, man. You have to understand, some of these people in here--this is their only outlet--the only power they have in their lives.

Things are begining to change, Michael....
I just got the jist of the comments to Henry38......well Henry, don't trip.....whenever a black resorts to a white man's racist M.O. in dealing with another black, they are just searching for their own self-adequacy.......and since they obviously think that the white man is a higher species, they will emulate his behavior to feel that they are also higher in some form or fashion........as so far as that other cat whose name i'll never use again.....Poor guy...he goes everywhere looking for allies.....even the white racist sites where they laugh at him and refer to him as a coon azz nigga once he leaves.....man i'm glad I do not hate black people so much that I have to cavort with the known and declared enemy and suck out of their azz for validation....and also look for everything bad that happens to black people as a reason to celebrate how f-ked up he feels black people are....based on his own experiences....which might just well be because him and his people are the one's actually f-ked up. But from the way he never acknowledges reality when faced with it.....he could never come to terms to realize that he and his people may be responsible for the problems he has had.......that will never happen....no matter how obviously true it may appear to be.....


But the truth is.......don't give the schit you talk that much relevance....words are nothing but sounds and cannot make a person bleed.......
Simple question, LOFTON.

List the Black Elected officials or "leadership" figures members of this board have PROMOTED.... PROMOTED...

Note: Promoted does not equal anything close to your subjective view of who "defended", "protected" or "honored" whom. PROMOTED means exactly that.

What members have PROMOTED which Black political figures and called them their "leaders" and the "leaders" of all or most Black people?

You mention Johnny Cochran, well you did not list why he was not "worthy of praise". You did not suggest that he didn't make a contribution from his field of expertise or somehow did something that fits into your Sleaze Categories.
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Originally posted by Michael:

What goes around comes around. Looks like a few individuals are recieving some of the same sarcacism, and disrespect, that they have sent my direction.

Mind you, the only thing that I've done, to deserve such treatment, is to express the reality that far too many of our own Black elected leaders are a disgrace, treasonous, etc., etc, and the associated foolishness of the so-called Black middle-class who promote these individuals.

Sincerely,

Michael Lofton[/URL]


Lofton, you are "disrespected" by everybody here because you are a fool.

You post the same idiocy over and over again, with the same mile long mind numbing posts that nobody in their right mind would ever actually read. In your efforts to tear down Black Leaders such as MLK, you come here pushing your agenda that you bring from webpages hosted by http://www.stormfront.org (White Pride World Wide!) such as http://www.martinlutherking.org/.

You refuse to back down on even your silliest statements, such as your claim that Merv Dymally is an illegal immigrant, and held his US Congressional seat illegally. (You even once made the same accusation against Shirley Chisolm, claiming that as an illegal immigrant, she also held office illegally in the US Congress.) I would have though that even you would have quietly dropped that one during your absense from here.

Lofton, why don't you just go play with your friends over at the Protest Whinier Forum and at Stormfront's "The Truth About Martin Luther King" Discussion Forum?
...that is not the reality of it Buckwheat, and it is not just me saying so!

..with respect to stormfront, protest warriors, etc., I have not posted anything there in months.

...besides, there are many other sources other than any stormfront, protest warrior, etc., to substantiate the deceit, the disgrace, the treason, etc., that exists with the typical Black elected leadership, and/or many of the so called Black middleclass, and unlike your contention, I did not have to go to any protest warrior, stormfront, the internet, or any website, to experience or retrieve such factual information!


posted January 16, 2004 11:17 PM
Some people would say that I'm crazy, but most would say just the opposite, because credit should only be given where it is due. Since Martin Luther King, the NAACP, Jesse Jackson, SCLC, PUSH, the Congressional Black Caucus, the so-called Black middle class, are not in any way responsible for my success, and/or anyone in my circle, then credit in this instance is truly deserving as applied to:

1. My parents.

2. My own effort to succeed.

3. A few teachers.

4. A few friends who have helped me along the way.

5. Any doctor who helped to save my life.

6. Any co-worker who has helped me along the way.

7. Any stranger who went beyond the call in making my day.

8. Joe Pine, and the owners of the Joe Pine Radio Station.

9. One lone Black woman who made it her business to help re-unite my immediate family, the exception being one of my sisters, who spent at least eighteen years of her life, from the time that she was a toddler, to be hidden and passed between deceitful Black foster parents to keep the AFDC benefits flowing.

10. The Daily News for printing the truth about my family as opposed to the many falsehoods that Black journalists employed by the Los Angeles Sentinel, couldn't publish the story straight even if the author gave it to them verbatim.

11. Booker Griffin, of KGFJ Black radio station, who helped to provide public exposure for one of my immediate family members in a bid to unseat, the no good Buffoon in an elected office holder, former Los Angeles City Councilman Nate Holden.

It will be a "Cold Day in Hell" before I will ever give credit for my success, and/or any of my immediate family members success to any:

13. No good treasonous Black social worker who aided and abetted in the destruction of my immediate family for profit.

12. Deceitful Black foster parents who without legal authority used my brothers, sisters, and I, to collect AFDC benefits, to pay down on their mortgage, pay down on personal luxuries, finance that private education for their offspring, etc., through the destruction of any law abiding Black family, such as the Lofton family, for their own personal financial gain.

13. Any poverty pimping jack-leg Black preacher.

14. Any game playing Black elected official in an illegal immigrant Merv Dymally, Brentwood Burke, Congresswoman Diane Watson, etc., etc.

15. The owners, and journalists affiliated with the Los Angeles Sentinel, the largest Black owned worthless newspaper on the planet.

16. The leadership of the NAACP, which is sleazy at its best.

17. Any Dr. Martin Luther King, who again has absolutely no connection to my success. Mind you back in the day the destruction of the Black family structure for profit surely existed. Mind you just as surely as Caucasians disregarded the rights of Black people, the same and/or worse can be said about Black people who show contempt for the rights of other Black people, who have not infringed upon their rights in any way.

18. Those Black social workers who falsely accused my parents of kidnapping their own offspring, who would go to any length to summons police officers to arrest my Dad, and Mom for the erroneous charge of kidnapping their own flesh and blood, which is the height of disregard for the traditional Black family unit.

19. That no good Black social worker, who summons policing authorities to drag my parents out of the house, while in their pajamas, at 4 A.M. in the morning, on a bogus recommendation to commit both of them to section 95, which is insanity court.

Mind you, my parents belief in themselves, and the value that Caucasians have in respect for the laws on the books, ruled my Dad and Mom both sane and competent. If left up to Black people my Dad and Mom would have been confined to an insane asylum.

20. Last but not least that Black probation officer, who places minors, including infants on Probation. The minors, and infants, in this instance being my immediate family members.

All the above occurred during the height of the civil rights movement, and/or during the 1970's, to which virtually every Black elected official, Civil Rights Organization, Dr. Martin Luther King, many Black Preachers, were made aware of these very serious and un-American atrocities, as it relates truly un-American practices of breaking up law abiding Black families for profit.

Not a one of these individuals spoke up, too even so much as use five minutes out of their day to respond to these very serious atrocities, as it relates to the unwarranted destruction of the Black family structure for profit by other Black people.

Just as in contemporary times, it is very popular for that civil rights movement, or prominent leader, in a Dr. Martin Luther King, a deceitful Reverend Jesse Jackson, an NAACP, PUSH, the Congressional Black Caucus, many of the so-called Black middle class, to show contempt toward Caucasians for very serious civil or criminal law violations, but when it comes time to hold any Black people who fit this description accountable for the civil or criminal law violations that Black people perpetrate on other Black people, this message board, any room, the Black Church, a football stadium filled with Black folks, etc., become so quiet, you would think that the lights are on, and no one is present, or should the victim protest, be is called an Uncle Tom, referred to as being insane, ridiculed, etc.

Again, I only give credit where it is due, to which it should be plain as day as to where my loyalty rests, and who my heroes are, which do not include Dr. Martin Luther King, Reverend Jesse Jackson, any game playing Black elected official, the Los Angeles Sentinel, any Black social worker, any Black probation officer, any Black foster parent, the NAACP, any jack leg poverty pimping Black preacher and their chitterling eating deceitful deacons, and/or any defenders of any of these disgraceful individuals, from any misfit set from within the Black community.

Not that I've written off all of Black America, because the Pompous Professors of Pomposity, the Norlands, etc., are a huge part of the problem and not the solution.

....and Caucasian America like always I made it possible for you to stay tuned. It is certain that you have been following the Lofton story for many years. There is no question that the so-called Black university educated, Black America's own elected leadership have failed, because the reality of it speaks for itself.

The defendents being the LAUSD, in Los Angeles County Case C#895188, to which a mountain of evidence exists to prove that the Los Angeles Unified School District, is in fact guilty as charged.

The question still remains as once again, ..... upon meeting at that fork in the road, "Are there Any Rights that the Truly Law Abiding of Black America have that Mandate Respect?

Dread Scott came to this same fork back in the day, to which the reality of the answer was no.

In light of the fact that Black people have served honorably in WW1, one being my Dad an honorably discharged Buffalo Soldier combat veteran of WW2, the Korean War, the Vietnam War, Desert Storm, one being one of my brothers an honorably discharged Naval War veteran of Desert Storm, and now Iraq.

I seek answers to this question, to determine whether the American Flag, the Principles for which this nation stands, the Pledge of Allegiance, the U.S. Constitution, the "Bill of Rights", "Equal Justice and Protection Under the Law", "Equity in the Courts", etc., in fact exist for me, and/or my posterity, to which this truth rests heavily on the outcome of Los Angeles Superior Court Case #C895188, and its aftermath.

The United States of America, being the greatest, fairest, most promising land of opportunity in the world, is great because of the greatest of the majority of people that live here.

More so than not, the truth always prevails, and so far I'm really encouraged to stay on course, because this great nation has yet to fail the Lofton family.

The misdeeds of a few citizens, as strongly evidence by the blatant incompetence of some Black people in positions of responsibility, the character assassinations as evidenced by a few Black members of this board, are not the fabric, the essence, the purpose of what it means to be a U.S. citizen in this great nation. The many voices to the contrary, exceed the garbage that has been thrown my direction by a few Black people on this board, by leaps and bounds. Should the facts present themselves, and/or should the American people pass judgment, it is certain that this cause will not quashed by the negative responses that I have received from those who are Black like me, who again make statements they cannot prove.

Sincerely,

Michael Lofton

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Nice weather we've been having lately. Don't you think?

It is this type of BS that has relegated you to the HA, HA, HA zone of posters.

Did I read that daddy Lofton is a veteran of WWII, the Korean Conflict, Vietnam, and Desert Storm? Surely, you jest nono

Are you saying that his military career spanned more than 40 years ... and expect anyone to believe you? nono

When, then, pray tell did all this really, really bad stuff happen to your family? When did he run for office? When did ...

Aw Hell, nice weather we've be having lately. Don't you think?
Ricardo,

As a fellow prof, I would think that you are familiar with the fact that name-calling is a subtitute for intellectual content...come on now.....look at the term liberal....you know that is a curse word...why do you think someone backwoods like W referred to Kerry as a liberal but did not say what that actually means? so when you rebut anything I say, i'll just call you Buckwheat and you should shut the f-k up because you have been put in "your place"......
"Lofton, you are "disrespected" by everybody here because you are a fool." by buckwheat

Not everybody, just a few, meaning the "Pompous Professor of Pomposity" Kevin41, "Can't Back anything up" Kweli4Real, "Playing the Race Card" Nmaginate, Ricardomath, A.K.A."Buckwheat", Herustar, Vox, and a few others.

Well, Buckwheat if you expect to be respected by Michael Lofton you have to first give it!

posted January 16, 2004 11:17 PM

Some people would say that I'm crazy, but most would say just the opposite, because credit should only be given where it is due. Since Martin Luther King, the NAACP, Jesse Jackson, SCLC, PUSH, the Congressional Black Caucus, the so-called Black middle class, are not in any way responsible for my success, and/or anyone in my circle, then credit in this instance is truly deserving as applied to:

1. My parents.

2. My own effort to succeed.

3. A few teachers.

4. A few friends who have helped me along the way.

5. Any doctor who helped to save my life.

6. Any co-worker who has helped me along the way.

7. Any stranger who went beyond the call in making my day.

8. Joe Pine, and the owners of the Joe Pine Radio Station.

9. One lone Black woman who made it her business to help re-unite my immediate family, the exception being one of my sisters, who spent at least eighteen years of her life, from the time that she was a toddler, to be hidden and passed between deceitful Black foster parents to keep the AFDC benefits flowing.

10. The Daily News for printing the truth about my family as opposed to the many falsehoods that Black journalists employed by the Los Angeles Sentinel, couldn't publish the story straight even if the author gave it to them verbatim.

11. Booker Griffin, of KGFJ Black radio station, who helped to provide public exposure for one of my immediate family members in a bid to unseat, the no good Buffoon in an elected office holder, former Los Angeles City Councilman Nate Holden.

It will be a "Cold Day in Hell" before I will ever give credit for my success, and/or any of my immediate family members success to any:

13. No good treasonous Black social worker who aided and abetted in the destruction of my immediate family for profit.

12. Deceitful Black foster parents who without legal authority used my brothers, sisters, and I, to collect AFDC benefits, to pay down on their mortgage, pay down on personal luxuries, finance that private education for their offspring, etc., through the destruction of any law abiding Black family, such as the Lofton family, for their own personal financial gain.

13. Any poverty pimping jack-leg Black preacher.

14. Any game playing Black elected official in an illegal immigrant Merv Dymally, Brentwood Burke, Congresswoman Diane Watson, etc., etc.

15. The owners, and journalists affiliated with the Los Angeles Sentinel, the largest Black owned worthless newspaper on the planet.

16. The leadership of the NAACP, which is sleazy at its best.

17. Any Dr. Martin Luther King, who again has absolutely no connection to my success. Mind you back in the day the destruction of the Black family structure for profit surely existed. Mind you just as surely as Caucasians disregarded the rights of Black people, the same and/or worse can be said about Black people who show contempt for the rights of other Black people, who have not infringed upon their rights in any way.

18. Those Black social workers who falsely accused my parents of kidnapping their own offspring, who would go to any length to summons police officers to arrest my Dad, and Mom for the erroneous charge of kidnapping their own flesh and blood, which is the height of disregard for the traditional Black family unit.

19. That no good Black social worker, who summons policing authorities to drag my parents out of the house, while in their pajamas, at 4 A.M. in the morning, on a bogus recommendation to commit both of them to section 95, which is insanity court.

Mind you, my parents belief in themselves, and the value that Caucasians have in respect for the laws on the books, ruled my Dad and Mom both sane and competent. If left up to Black people my Dad and Mom would have been confined to an insane asylum.

20. Last but not least that Black probation officer, who places minors, including infants on Probation. The minors, and infants, in this instance being my immediate family members.

All the above occurred during the height of the civil rights movement, and/or during the 1970's, to which virtually every Black elected official, Civil Rights Organization, Dr. Martin Luther King, many Black Preachers, were made aware of these very serious and un-American atrocities, as it relates truly un-American practices of breaking up law abiding Black families for profit.

Not a one of these individuals spoke up, too even so much as use five minutes out of their day to respond to these very serious atrocities, as it relates to the unwarranted destruction of the Black family structure for profit by other Black people.

Just as in contemporary times, it is very popular for that civil rights movement, or prominent leader, in a Dr. Martin Luther King, a deceitful Reverend Jesse Jackson, an NAACP, PUSH, the Congressional Black Caucus, many of the so-called Black middle class, to show contempt toward Caucasians for very serious civil or criminal law violations, but when it comes time to hold any Black people who fit this description accountable for the civil or criminal law violations that Black people perpetrate on other Black people, this message board, any room, the Black Church, a football stadium filled with Black folks, etc., become so quiet, you would think that the lights are on, and no one is present, or should the victim protest, be is called an Uncle Tom, referred to as being insane, ridiculed, etc.

Again, I only give credit where it is due, to which it should be plain as day as to where my loyalty rests, and who my heroes are, which do not include Dr. Martin Luther King, Reverend Jesse Jackson, any game playing Black elected official, the Los Angeles Sentinel, any Black social worker, any Black probation officer, any Black foster parent, the NAACP, any jack leg poverty pimping Black preacher and their chitterling eating deceitful deacons, and/or any defenders of any of these disgraceful individuals, from any misfit set from within the Black community.

Not that I've written off all of Black America, because the Pompous Professors of Pomposity, the Norlands, etc., are a huge part of the problem and not the solution.

....and Caucasian America like always I made it possible for you to stay tuned. It is certain that you have been following the Lofton story for many years. There is no question that the so-called Black university educated, Black America's own elected leadership have failed, because the reality of it speaks for itself.

The defendents being the LAUSD, in Los Angeles County Case C#895188, to which a mountain of evidence exists to prove that the Los Angeles Unified School District, is in fact guilty as charged.

The question still remains as once again, ..... upon meeting at that fork in the road, "Are there Any Rights that the Truly Law Abiding of Black America have that Mandate Respect?

Dread Scott came to this same fork back in the day, to which the reality of the answer was no.

In light of the fact that Black people have served the U.S. honorably during times of War,
...one being my Dad an honorably discharged Buffalo Soldier combat veteran of WW2...., one being one of my brothers an honorably discharged Naval War veteran of Desert Storm, and the many Black people who serve in the American Revolution, WWI, WWII, the Korean War, the Vietnam War, Desert Storm, and now Iraq.


"Nice weather we've been having lately. Don't you think?

It is this type of BS that has relegated you to the HA, HA, HA zone of posters.

Did I read that daddy Lofton is a veteran of WWII, the Korean Conflict, Vietnam, and Desert Storm? Surely, you jest

Are you saying that his military career spanned more than 40 years ... and expect anyone to believe you?

When, then, pray tell did all this really, really bad stuff happen to your family? When did he run for office? When did ...

Aw Hell, nice weather we've be having lately. Don't you think? by Kweli4Real

...indeed nice weather we are having. The information shared is already documented in a court of law. Yep, Kweli, unlike you a mountain of hard evidence exists to validate the information as referenced.

....At this point in time it is more of a responsiblity for a Kweli4Real, a Kevin41, a Buckwheat, etc., to prove that this didn't happen,......that is if some of these individuals expect to receive so much as a dime in reparations for the vestibule of slavery.

I don't have to resort to mis-statement of fact to support my contentions.

.....and the Black middleclass expect to receive reparations for slavery, yet some of the Black middle class have contributed to the break-up of the traditional Black family structure for profit themselves.

....This has all the makings of a hypocrit. In all fairness that so-called Black middleclass need to make restitution to the many Black families they have destroyed, for a practice, pertaining to the illegal and unwarranted destruction of the law abiding Black family for profit that was supposed to have ended when slavery ended.

Sincerely,

Michael Lofton

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I don't have to resort to mis-statement of fact to support my contentions.

Lofton, are you really that sick that you have taken to refer to ME as "Can't Back anything up, Kweli?" Point to a single statement that I have made that when challenged as to its accuracy, I was unable or unwilling to provide documentary support. Further, the one instance when I mis-wrote, VOX, caught it and when he pointed it out, I apologized and corrected my statement to the satisfaction of all.

Besides, you have the gall to act out when the whole controversy around you stems from you casting these wild a$$ assertions and then failing/refusing to back them up?

Remember your claim that Merv Dymally is an illegal immigrant, and held his US Congressional seat illegally? Or, your claiming the same thing regarding Shirley Chisolm?

And now, you claim that pappy lofton is a veteran of 4 wars covering a span of more than 40 years? That's staight up bs. While he may have been alive during these years, it is highly unlikely that he was active military over this period.

But I'll tell you what ... Private Message me pappy lofton's vital info (e.g., name, date of birth, branch of service, and/or any other identifying info) and I will pull then post pappy lofton's service record for all to see.
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Originally posted by Kweli4Real:
You know ... I don't like where this [I] am going with this. The above post was hurtful and beneath me.

Lofton, I'm gonna just leave this, and you, alone.

Peace.


I feel ya Kweli,

bro...we can never let others bring out the worse in us....I believe in sinking to their level yet staying above it at the same time.......peace
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Originally posted by Kweli4Real:
BTW, I've just wasted about a half hour researching pappy lofton: I got that he was a graduate of W.V. State Univ.; was a honorable discharged disabled combat veteran (no dates); and he had "one year of gainful employment in his life." [Source: statement by Esther Lofton before Bd of Supervisors]


"You know ... I don't like where this [I] am going with this. The above post was hurtful and beneath me.

Lofton, I'm gonna just leave this, and you, alone." by Kweli4Real

.....but does that make you criminal. It is also a sad day when any war time deserving honorably discharged veteran is denied gainful employment.

The statement as referenced by Kweli4Real does not state that my Dad and Mom are credential school teachers. My Dad and Mom had credentials to teach in more than one state.

Nor is there any information in the above statement as referenced or anywhere else, to show where any of my family members have been wards of the state, due to any charge of child abuse, insanity, any child taken away for being incorrigible, etc., etc.

In addition, there is not a single court document that exists to where my parents have lost parental rights anywhere in the United States of America, be it Los Angeles County or otherwise.

BTW, I've just wasted about a half hour researching pappy lofton: I got that he was a graduate of W.V. State Univ.; was a honorable discharged disabled combat veteran (no dates); and he had "one year of gainful employment in his life." [Source: statement by Esther Lofton before Bd of Supervisors]

....Nor is the above statement, or any derivative thereof, reason to lose custody to your children.

......Nor has this been used as a reason to find either one of my parents to be unfit, insane, etc.

Black social workers attempted to proposition my Mom to sign up for social welfare benefits under the condition that if she put her husband out she could receive Social Welfare. I'm so glad my Mom was loyal to her husband and told this idiot set, as it pertains to too many of the so-called university educated of Black America, to take a "hike", and under no circumstances would she take or accept social welfare benefits. Mind you neither my Mom, nor my Dad asked any of these social workers, or otherwise, for any assistance or benefits to receive social welfare benefits in the first place.

.....Mind you, as reality would have it, more times than not, when the going gets tough, the average Black woman out there, would have put her husband up for bid to disconnect him from the family that the "Great Almighty God" put together,........ for some "stinking, worthless, never get the government out of your life, need to be lined up and shot in the back of the head by a firing squad execution style disrespectful breathing down your neck on a daily basis no good Black social workers, not enough to survive on County Welfare Benefits".

My Dad and Mom made a way for their siblings, we never went hungry, or lacked clothes on our backs. Never once did either of them take so much as a dime in social welfare benefits, or make use of unemployment insurance. My Dad and Mom were very resourceful, with or without gainful employment. It is to my parent's credit to say all this, and not draw a dime in social welfare, or succumb to subculture activities in their quest for the survival of the Mr. and Mrs. Leon E. Lofton, Jr. Family.

....Black social workers, probation officers, foster parents have no respect for the Black family structure, and no respect for the law.

Be it the issue of being denied gainful employment, my syntax, grammar, style of writing, or otherwise.......

I have a mountain of evidence to prove that Black social workers have illegally broken up Black families, specifically as it applies to my immediate family.

I can prove that Black probation officers have placed minors, including infants on probation.

I can prove beyond all doubt that many of the so-called Black elected leaders play games when petitioned for redress for a government seriously gone awry.

I can prove that many of the so-called Black middleclass are just as treasonous.

The message remains the same.

....Speaking of reparations, perhaps that so-called Black middleclass should make restitution, reparations, etc., etc., to the many Black families that they have illegally broken up to collect AFDC benefits.

Many of the Black middleclass are educated fools, and have little or no regard for the rights of the law abiding, and even less regard for the traditional Black family structure.

...and Kweli4Real no matter how many mistakes I make, you can not embarrass me, or any member of my family. Furthermore, I can state without reservation that more so than Caucasians, Black people are in fact their own worse enemies, etc., etc.

You may embarrass yourself trying to do so, but you will never embarrass me, or any other member of my family.

Sincerely,

Michael Lofton

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Hey guys cool it. Chill...name calling isn't necessary. To Vox and Audio Guy I apologize for insulting you on my last post. I have to admit I take things a little too personally sometimes. Truth is we can't see each other on this board, all we see are the words so we can't tell if someone is just stating a fact or being insulting. I even remember a case in 2002/2003 of someone being killed under these circumstances.
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Hey guys cool it. Chill...name calling isn't necessary. To Vox and Audio Guy I apologize for insulting you on my last post. I have to admit I take things a little too personally sometimes. Truth is we can't see each other on this board, all we see are the words so we can't tell if someone is just stating a fact or being insulting. I even remember a case in 2002/2003 of someone being killed under these circumstances.


Well Maverick, speaking of name calling, your advice, and words of wisdom would be more valuable here. With respect to name calling and personal attacks, no one can surpass Nmaginate in this regard! Don't take my word for it, let any rational reader be the judge!

"Where you lying sack of shit? WHERE?

Oh... that's why you're not going to quote anything else. You know you're lying. Fucking TumbleWeed..." by Nmaginate

"What a fucking dumbass you are... by Nmaginate", directed at IronHorse

"Yep...my conversations in here have nothing to do with org behavior or technology management. I roll with the flow others dictate (like my Spurs) and play along accordingly.....so when I rebut what a person says based on facts and social research and they tell me to f-k off or reply with some BS that is insulting, then that is how we roll from now on....and when people start communicating with the level of respect and professionalism shown in a classroom...then we roll in that mannner....i'll be damned if I stay on a civil plane while others demean, degrade and insult others while ducking and dodging respectful, specific questions-fuck em......." by Kevin41

.....by a so-called university professor.....At face value, considering this statement in his own words, I wouldn't recommend Kevin41 to instruct anyone close to my circle!

....indeed the name calling must stop. Respect must also be mutual, otherwise there will be no peace, be it name calling or otherwise!

Sincerely,

Michael Lofton
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Originally posted by maverick:
Hey guys cool it. Chill...name calling isn't necessary. To Vox and Audio Guy I apologize for insulting you on my last post. I have to admit I take things a little too personally sometimes.


What last post? The search feature doesn't seem to be working for me lately... Obviously, whatever it was, if I don't remember it, it couldn't've been a big deal. For that matter, since it's on an internet board, it really couldn't bother me enough to need any apologies. There's a big difference between insulting Vox and insulting Romal. So don't fret it... it means nothing.

As for this thread... I tend to skip over Lofton's posts, so I don't get enough context. Maybe next time I'll read thru it and find out who "pappy Lofton" is... But I definitely see the need to chill, Kweli.

Think about it: your facts and logic don't work on him. So why let his lunacy and self-hate work on you? (Sorry Lofton, but there's a difference between insulting to inflame and calling it like I see it...)
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Originally posted by Vox:
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Originally posted by maverick:
Hey guys cool it. Chill...name calling isn't necessary. To Vox and Audio Guy I apologize for insulting you on my last post. I have to admit I take things a little too personally sometimes.


What last post? The search feature doesn't seem to be working for me lately... Obviously, whatever it was, if I don't remember it, it couldn't've been a big deal. For that matter, since it's on an internet board, it really couldn't bother me enough to need any apologies. There's a big difference between insulting Vox and insulting Romal. So don't fret it... it means nothing.

As for this thread... I tend to skip over Lofton's posts, so I don't get enough context. Maybe next time I'll read thru it and find out who "pappy Lofton" is... But I definitely see the need to chill, Kweli.

Think about it: your facts and logic don't work on him. So why let his lunacy and self-hate work on you? (Sorry Lofton, but there's a difference between insulting to inflame and calling it like I see it...) by Vox

Definitely no shortage of material to select from in the event sequels were to be marketed for the game "Ghettopoly". Heck, I see, and experience, enough in real life as it applies to the many misfits of Black America, where there would be no need to purchase the game "Ghettopoly"


.....and I'm also calling it like it is. I'm not about to change this tune for any Vox, Kevin41, Kweli4Real, Buckwheat, Nmaginate, Maverick, Herustar, ambulance chasing Johnny Cochran, illegal immigrant serving foreign interests at the expense of the residents of South Central Los Angeles and Compton no Good Merv Dymally, Brentwood Burke, Kerosene Waters, Carpetbagging no good Martin Ludlow, Little Napoleon Marc Ridley Thomas, Caught with his pants down having lewd sex with a prostitute in a government vehicle California State Assemblyman Kevin Murray, Former Congressman now felon and preaching the gospel fake Walter Tucker, any poverty pimping no good sleazy self ordained Reverend Jessie Jackson, Poverty Pimping Reverend Felony Henry Lyons, the so-called Black middle class who idolize and praise this trash, or otherwise!

Sincerely,

Michael Lofton
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Hey, guys, if you want to know where Michael got that quote on what Nmaginate said, all you have to do is just go to the reparations forum and check out the discussion entitled, "Ideal Reparations."

No, I'm not butting in and I'm not trying to start anything. The point is, people like Nmaginate and HeruStar simply don't have the integrity or common courteousy to constructively debate on a topic without resorting to making slanderous comments. Now, personally, I don't give a damn--my ego isn't so easily bruised--I can cuss a fool out just as quickly and easily--the point is, it doesn't have to come to that point, especially continue for several pages.
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Originally posted by maverick:
Hey guys cool it. Chill...name calling isn't necessary. To Vox and Audio Guy I apologize for insulting you on my last post. I have to admit I take things a little too personally sometimes. Truth is we can't see each other on this board, all we see are the words so we can't tell if someone is just stating a fact or being insulting. I even remember a case in 2002/2003 of someone being killed under these circumstances.
I seemed to have missed your insult... please tell me where to see it so that I can "bitch slap" you and then you can properly apologize... Big Grin

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From Mav:
No offense but if you guys really find small petty things funny then you really, really need to get out more. I didn't come here looking for a fight but there are people here who are obviously as sensitive, petty and paranoid as I am. We can do this back and forth all day long. I know, let me change the topic of this post to: Pettiness.
Is this what you are apologizing for? *Bitch Slap* Okay, apology accepted...
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