All day long
Just a note.... It's Savior's Day in Chicago.....quote:Originally posted by Yemaya:
Unfortunately for the people who had to speak after Min. Farrakhan, it did seem like the audience and the spirit left after he did.
quote:Originally posted by EbonyRose:
Yes, Yemaya, I thinking today how future forums might go if he were to invite less of the "core group" of panelists that are there ever year. I hope he takes that last young man's advice and let's the young Blood go first next year. That's a discussion that definitely needed to be expanded.
But, there are the "usuals" that have headlined the show since the beginning pretty much. And I think Minister Farrakhan was a little "under the weather" today! As much as I love to hear him speak, I didn't agree with him either inasmuch as by the time of his closing remarks he was telling the audience that a (the) Covenent was not necessary, but that, in fact, revolution was, which was totally counter to the event. Not that I disagree with what he said, but I don't think that was the proper time to say it!
I've got a full day tomorrow, but I'll try to pop in and get in on any conversation that's going on
I think the disrespect was mutual. Farrkhan not only "broke from the script" so to speak (the Operational Unity, if you will) but he threw in a shameless plug for his Millions More inspired Black Ministries (of Health, etc.). While I support all that, it was not the place and I don't think the Convenant is that far from Farrakhan's more pronounced Black Nationalism. I think Kimberle Crenshaw brought it all together by saying, "We all agree that: We Are A People."quote:Minister Farrakhan... those who differed with him did so in a very respectful manner
No disagreement. The two can and should co-exist "peacefully" - i.e. in harmony and in conjunction.quote:Those of us that wants to change the system for the better can work towards that while at the same time supporting programs by nationalist that uplift black people.
quote:Originally posted by Nmaginate:No disagreement. The two can and should co-exist "peacefully" - i.e. in harmony and in conjunction.quote:Those of us that wants to change the system for the better can work towards that while at the same time supporting programs by nationalist that uplift black people.
The problem though (and this may be pretty biased, coming from my Nationalist perspective)... none of those "Assimilationists" were talking about any essential changes that they wanted or demanded from the system. Name one change Cornell or Tavis demanded.
If that were so, then there was plenty of room for common ground. Farrakhan referenced Thomas Jefferson's idea of Revolution where it is incumbent on the people to fight to ALTER or ABOLISH any form of government that is dysfunctional, as I noted in my thread. Nowhere in the discussion did Cornell or Tavis talk about REFORM(S) to the American Gov't system. Obviously, Farrakhan made the case or expressed his preference for the latter. He used the Burning House metaphor as if to say that America's system of gov't, etc. must be ABOLISHED.
Perhaps you can share with me any of Cornell West's or Tavis Smiley's ideas that are more specific and not at all vague and nebulous as the "Pipe Dream" of what West certainly wanted to try to pigeon-hole Farrakhan into saying.
I got absolutely NO sense that Tavis or West proposed any such "change" save a superficial change in how we seek/obtain audience with the two political parties.
NO REFORMS and certainly no Revolutionary or even MLK like RADICAL CHANGE. But, maybe I have to read more... which is all the more reason why I hope you can inform me if I'm somehow off in my assumption/contention.
And that type of Cornell West complete with his statement that he has to "go with Martin" would make him close to a Manning Marable it would seem. That would be one public intellectual conspiculously absent from Tavis' panels. Especially considering how Marable is no stranger to CSPAN or such symposiums.quote:Cornel has definitely mullified his orientation over the last decade. There have actually been a number of books noting this. The West of Prophesy Deliverance who argued for a radical restructuring of society along progressive socialist lines is certainly no more.