Stand Your Ground Is About To Get Even Worse In Florida

BY NICOLE FLATOW ON APRIL 3, 2014 AT 5:03 PM

12-year-old Jaylen Reese marches to protest Zimmerman's verdict.

12-year-old Jaylen Reese marches to protest Zimmerman’s verdict.

CREDIT: AP PHOTO/DAVID GOLDMAN

 

Attempts to roll back any of the Florida Stand Your Ground law’s most incendiary elements have foundered more than two years after the death of Trayvon Martin. But a bill to expand the law passed Thursday, mere months after it was introduced.

 

The National Rifle Association-backed bill would extend Stand Your Ground-like protections to those who point a gun at an attacker or fire a gun as a self-defense threat or warning, expanding the scope of the discretion judges and juries retain to exempt shooters from criminal charges for gun violence. The final bill also includes a provision to keep Stand Your Ground records secret.

 

The “Threatened Use of Force” bill passed the Senate Thursday 32-7, and will become law if signed by Gov. Rick Scott (R). The bill initially gained traction after Republicans exploited the outrage over the 20-year prison sentence for Marissa Alexander, who fired a warning shot during an altercation with her abusive husband. The bill was then dubbed the “warning shot” bill, because a judge rejected Alexander’s move to invoke the law. But opponents were quick to point out that injustice in Alexander’s case hinged in large part on a draconian mandatory minimum sentence that required the 20-year prison term, insensitivity to domestic violence, and racial disparities that are already baked into the existing Stand Your Ground law.

 

Rather than protect those like Alexander, the law is likely to expand immunity for violent conduct in as vague and sweeping a manner as Florida’s existing Stand Your Ground law, and could represent the newest mechanism for encouraging even more vigilantism.

 

A new amendment that made its way into the final bill would also make secret all records from Stand Your Ground cases, meaning that the records would be sealed in cases where charges are later dropped, and those who are granted immunity would have their records expunged. But the law also means that media outlets seeking to document the impact of the law would not have access to any records.

 

Dream Defenders Legal and Policy Director Ahmad Abuznaid called this a “double standard,” pointing out that no legislation in Florida protects young children arrested for offenses that often amount to disciplinary violations. “If the legislature is concerned with expunging criminal records, they should start with the tens of thousands of students who were arrested in school for minor misbehavior last year or the many people of color unable to vote in Florida because of a broken criminal justice system – not defendants with an itchy trigger finger and unchecked biases against black and brown people,” he said in a statement.

 

Last summer, Dream Defenders led a sit-in at the Florida Capitol that lasted more than eight days imploring repeal after George Zimmerman was acquitted in the killing of Trayvon Martin. But those efforts have been summarily rejected, even after a review panel was commissioned to identify flaws in the law. That “farce” panel stacked with many of the original proponents of the law did not even consider studies finding that the law is associated with a significant increase in homicides, has a disproportionate impact on African Americans, and does not appear to deter crime at all. The NRA continued its lobbying on this warning shot bill even as trial was underway for the killing of another Florida 17-year-old, Jordan Davis.

 

Over the past two years, Florida courts have granted immunity under the Stand Your Ground law to a man who went back to his car to get a gun, and another who shot an acquaintance for threatening to beat him up. And just last week, an appeals court ruled that a prison guard could invoke the law to defend allegations that he severely beat an inmate on the job. There is another new compromise bill advancing in the Senate intended to make some reforms to the law, but even that bill would make the legal process even easier for defendants.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

"I'm just trying to make a way out of no way, for my people" -Modejeska Monteith Simpkins

 

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Europeans in America DESPISE Africans in America.  They obtained their riches with centuries of our FREE labor.  Many of us have obtained our riches by keeping these creeps ENTERTAINED and HAPPY!!  It's more than insane for us the expect justice  or help from these "people".  They'd much rather see you buried IN the ground or locked IN a cage, than see you STANDING on their stolen GROUNDS. They tell us and show us every day of our lives.  Why can't we U.N.D.E.R.S.T.A.N.D???  

Stand Your Ground is already regularly interpreted in regular self-defense law. Which is how George Zimmerman got off, he didn't have a duty to retreated after Trayvon started whipping his ass because Zimmerman was stalking him.George Zimmerman didn't even have to go to a Stand Your Ground hearing to get a Stand Your Ground ruling and many don't.

 

What Florida has done is created actual Stand You Ground statues, where a defendant can gamble and get a Stand Your Ground hearing before trial and a judge can make that person immune to criminal and civil charges.

 

And people just think they have a license to shoot. it really correlates with an increase of European-American on European-American homicide rates and assault rates moreso than African American. Of course there are other studies on the effect on gun laws, that should be taken into consideration - like studies that show guns reduce crime, guns don't reduce crime, or it's inconclusive.

 

http://www.nber.org/papers/w18187

 

Summary of Paper

 

"According to our estimates, between 28 and 33 additional white males are killed each month as a result of these laws. We find no consistent evidence to suggest that these laws increase homicides among blacks. Auxiliary analysis using data from the Supplemental Homicide Reports indicates that our results are not driven by the killings of assailants. We also find that the stand your ground laws are not related to non-homicide deaths, which should not respond to gun laws. Finally, we analyze data from the Health Care Utilization Project to show that these laws are also associated with a significant increase in emergency room visits and hospital discharges related to firearm inflicted injuries. Taken together, these findings raise serious doubts against the argument that Stand Your Ground laws make public safer."

 

 Actual Paper

http://www.flgov.com/wp-conten...13_secondchance1.pdf

 

All African Americans gotta do is start arming themselves and killing European Americans in petty situations and Stand Your Ground will go away. They obviously don't care when they kill each other, what makes you think they gonna care when they kill us? The law harms them more than us because they are more armed than we are, but then they are more armed than we are so when we end up in a confrontation with them, we are at an disadvantaged.

 

Stop protesting and begging and allying yourself with liberal White people, it doesn't work. I don't wanna see the law overturned personally because it's a perfect storm for us to arm ourselves en masse. I wanna see an African American Rifle Association, arming brothers and sisters and giving them the words of Malcolm X:

 

"Be peaceful, be courteous, obey the law, respect everyone; but if someone puts his hand on you, send him to the cemetery."

 

That should be the motto of the association and the brothers and sisters in Florida can let them know, we ain't marching, we shooting, two eyes for an eye, two teeth for a tooth, you take one of ours, we take two of yours.

 

And when NRA lobby for gun laws, we'll lobby for the same gun laws and make it plain.

 

"We wanna be able to defend ourselves from European Americans everywhere in the USA we go."

 

Lets stop being complete and totally powerless and just a victim, we are not even playing possum like Jews do, time to start making moves besides complaining.

 

George Zimmerman did not us the "Stand Your Ground" defense because he was told he couldn't and because those who drafted the law publicly stated that what he did, did not fall under the "Stand Your Ground" defense in the first place.

 

George Zimmerman relied on American Racism and knew the odds were in his favor to have a jury and a judge that would side with him no matter what as long and the victim he murdered was Black, especially a young Black male.  

 

George Zimmerman relied on the [now] unwritten Jim Crow Law that if you kill a Black person, you will be rewarded for your depravity rather than punished.

 

"White men and women" kept George Zimmerman out of prison.  As long as he lives, ole George will NEVER have peace of mind.  Every step he takes, every breath he breathes, Mr. Martin will be with him until the day he dies. He didn't get "away" with a damn thing!!!!

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