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South African media has bid farewell to Pretoria after the capital city moved toward changing to the African name Tshwane to symbolise the new post-apartheid nation.

"Farewell to the city of Pretoria; Death knell for the old name," screamed the headline of Pretoria News, the main English-language daily in the political capital of South Africa named after Afrikaner hero Andries Pretorius in 1885.

The Business Day said: "Pretoria faces brave new era ... "

At a special meeting on Monday, the 152-member city council, voted in favour of "registering the geographical area that constitutes the municipality as a city with the name Tshwane".

This means that once registered, Pretoria will disappear from maps.

The South African Geographic Names Council is expected to approve the city council request when it convenes in October.

The name change debate cuts to the heart of the transformation in this southern African country, more than a decade after its first democratic elections heralded the end of white minority rule.

But the proposed name change from Pretoria to Tshwane, one of the first African chiefs to settle in the area, threatened to split the city along racial lines.

The Citizen, which has a predominantly black readership, said "Pretoria will only refer to a township within the city of Tshwane," and be henceforth like any other suburb.

The Pretoria News pointed out that the seat of government - the stunningly beautiful Union Buildings nestled on a hillock overlooking the city - would now no longer be located in Pretoria but in the Tshwane municipal area.

The debate over the name change was acrimonious and bitterly opposed by South Africa's main opposition Democratic Alliance (DA) party, which still has a large white support base.

Pretoria, a city of 2 million people, was named after Andries Pretorius, who settled there with the so-called "Voortrekkers" (front trekkers) a vanguard of Boers who left the Cape colony with ox-wagons in the 1830s and the second group to live in the area.

The first were Nguni-speakers, known as the Ndebele who named the place Tshwane, which means Little Ape.

The word Tshwane is said to symbolise the chief's motto - "we are the same".

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This means that once registered, Pretoria will disappear from maps.

The South African Geographic Names Council is expected to approve the city council request when it convenes in October.

This is the authority of running the neighborhood.

Some may recall that somewhere in the late 70s or 80s a large insurgence of a Hindu or other Indian religion happened in a small town of 20,000 or 30,0000 in Oregon.

They quietly ran for office.

Voted for themselves.

Achieved the majority in local government.

And change the laws and icons of the town.

That's the law.

We are learning to do the same.

Evidence the initiatives in Rhode Island, and Chicago regarding reparations.

Maybe. Just maybe, this will point out the significance of the thread 'Jim Crow: Still alive and well.'


PEACE

Jim Chester

PEACE

Jim Chester
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Originally posted by blaqfist:
To me this symbolizes a important realization, in a positive Black Nationalist perspective..

The throwing off of the slave/colonizer name is a relfection of the changed mindset of the New Afrikan..

Way to go Tshwane!


Now, if we can get rid of the colonial borders and use the traditional name for Lake Victoria(That really iritates me)...maybe we will have the mindstate to get political/economic control amd self determination back too. One day...
Now, if we can get rid of the colonial borders and use the traditional name for Lake Victoria(That really iritates me)...maybe we will have the mindstate to get political/economic control amd self determination back too. One day...---Oshun Auset

You tweaked my brain again.

What is the traditional name (meaning real?) of Lake Victoria.

By the way, I met a 'close friend' of Rhodes, the guy for whom Rhodesia (now Zaire??) was named. He had picture of the 'big rock' hanging in the corridor outside his office.

I stopped in front of the picture and intoned, 'Do you know what that is Young fella/'

I said, 'A big rock.'

His look of expectation changed and he began to explain to me with authoritative satisfaction what it 'really' was.


PEACE

Jim Chester
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Originally posted by James Wesley Chester:
You tweaked my brain again.

What is the traditional name (meaning real?) of Lake Victoria.


One of the Ugandan names for it is Nalubaale, which means "Lake of the Goddesses"...All the surrounding countries, and local people's have different names for it though.

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By the way, I met a 'close friend' of Rhodes, the guy for whom Rhodesia (now Zaire??) was named. He had picture of the 'big rock' hanging in the corridor outside his office.


Zimbabwe actually...and you should have spat upon him(but of course you didn't know to do that back then)...Rhodes was the Hitler of Africa... You met the friend of a thief, homicidal maniac, and a general S.O.B...and birds of a feather... Your experience was kind of like meeting Himler...The only bastard worse than Rhodes when it comes to genocide, was King Leopold of the Congo(formerly Zaire)IMO.....Oh and that bitch welfare Queen of England is high on my list too, since a whole bunch of colonial butll-s*%!t was sanctioned by her globally...

This is the reason why I hate when folks brag they are a "Rhodes scholars"... The money they are using as scholarship funds if stolen right from the heart of Southern Africa! Rhodesians(what the colonial settlers called themsleves), are like the Afrikkaners of South Africa who instituted Aprtheid...there was a similar system in Zimbabwe...

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I stopped in front of the picture and intoned, 'Do you know what that is Young fella/'

I said, 'A big rock.'

His look of expectation changed and he began to explain to me with authoritative satisfaction what it 'really' was.[/i]

PEACE

Jim Chester


..."authoritative satisfaction"?!
I think I'm gonna' vomit. upset
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