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Somebody out there, meaning Black male(s) are really upset with the treasonous Black Middleclass

.....so far all the men killed have been Black men, black men of middle class status, driving late model or new SUVs, other late model vehicles, etc.

.....In the land of "Have Nots" in a South Central Los Angeles, or any typical "inner-city" territory, it is not such a good idea to flaunt the luxuries of any "Haves". I believe it would increase my chances to remain in the land of the living, and not face the same music, by driving my old attracting less attention good running automobile. There are in fact some very angry people out there, and some do have good reason to flex their muscles because:

1. I'm willing to bet that the shooters are very angry Black men from the inner-city who have been given a raw deal by:

2. Very serious and very real "inequities" on the part of the court system within Los Angeles County.

3. The betrayal of the Black middle class, some of whom have aided and abetted in branding truly innocent Black men or women, with no previous criminal history, as being criminal.


4. Any combination of items 1, 2, or 3.

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"Police hunt gunmen in wave of Los Angeles freeway shootings

Mon Apr 25, 6:33 PM ET

LOS ANGELES (AFP) - Police in Los Angeles were hunting for possible links between five mysterious shootings of motorists on the packed freeways of the second largest US city.

Six people have been shot in their cars on the city's notoriously clogged freeways in an area southeast of Los Angeles over the past six weeks, with four of the victims dying of their injuries.

In the latest attack on Sunday, a driver was shot in the neck while driving on the 55 freeway, but managed to drive himself to a hospital and crawl into the emergency room where he received treatment and survived.

"They're similar in the sense that the locations are relatively close, but we don't really think they're linked," said Los Angeles Police Department spokeswoman Grace Brady.

"There hasn't been a link found yet and one of the indications that they are not linked is the fact that different weapons were used in each incident," she said.

Sunday's shooting took place in "literally the exact same spot" where a 26-year-old engineer was killed on March 12, said Captain Michael Shanahan of the police department in Tustin, southeast of Los Angeles.


Two other motorists were killed in shootings on the 110 Freeway in South Los Angeles, while a 32-year-old man was killed Friday not far from where Sunday's shooting took place.

The sprays of bullets on the 110 Freeway, one of Southern California's most-travelled motorways, took place just four miles (6.4 kilometers) apart and during roughly the same time: afternoon rush hour.

On March 29, a 20-year-old college student was shot in the head as he drove along the freeway, while on April 13 two men in their 40s were fired on as they drove to their Bible study class, killing one of them.

Police are appealing to the public for any information that could result in the arrest of the suspects."


.....it just so happens they are going after the wrong individuals. They should be going after "Brentwood Burke", "The Illegal Immigrant no Good Merv Dymally", "Caught with his pants down by the Los Angeles Police Department Getting a Blow Job by a prostitute in an owned by the state of California government vehicle no good carpet bagging deceitful Kevin Murray", "Carpet bagging no good deceitful Martin Ludlow", "Kerosene Waters", "No good deceitful Diane Watson", etc., the "Many no Good Jackleg Preachers", and the Black middle class who praise, defend, or protect misfits!

Sincerely,

Michael Lofton
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I have to agreed that why do you think that the shooters are black. This sounds more like a white person being envious of successful blacks then anything else. While I'm sure that they are some poor blacks who hold middle class and upper class blacks in distain for precieved notions of forgetting where they came from, that distain normally does not cross over in violence especially something like this where the shooter is stalking his particular victims.
I heard from members of a law enforcement agency that it may be hispanic gang members according to a survivor of one of the shootings...but it is all irrelevant and must be stopped...and for the fact that lofton uses death as an opportunity to slur people and not respect the grief associated with the moment...proves that he should be locked up and the key thrown away...the way he drug Cochran through the mud......proves that if there is ever a huge race war....one of his own would probably kill him first...because his level of self-hatred for blacks....will easily turn into betrayal......
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Lofton you'd fit right in on CNN. This is exactly the type of anti-black information they're looking for.


"Big Tookie" is not on death row for killing Caucasians or Hispanics. Heck, I've had to hit the deck on more that one occasion to keep from getting hit by bullets, and neither Hispanics, or Caucasians were the trigger persons.

Funny how individuals in a Kweli4Real, a Kevin41, etc.,who do not live in Los Angeles, specifically as applied to South Central Los Angeles, would think that this could not be possible, in that disgruntled or de-ranged Black people could not have done this.

Since the 70s numerous Black people have been killed or maimed, and are still being killed or maimed by other Black people, here in Los Angeles.

...Heck the enemy or shooter more times than not are other Black people, the exception being a few Hispanics, and/or rogue police officers.


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Doctor's Marathon Shifts in Question
King/Drew radiologist claimed pay for working around the clock for weeks at a time.
By Charles Ornstein and Tracy Weber
Times Staff Writers

April 26, 2005

Martin Luther King Jr./Drew Medical Center paid more than $1.3 million over the last year for the services of a radiologist who said he worked an average of 20 hours a day, seven days a week, during one recent six-month stretch, records show.

Los Angeles County health officials said Monday that they have launched an investigation into the marathon work hours of Dr. Harold A. Tate, who was employed under a contract at the hospital. The county has paid Reliable Health Care Services Inc., a temporary agency that supplies healthcare workers to hospitals, up to $225 per hour for Tate's services.

Health officials said they were unaware of the enormous payments made on Tate's behalf, or his round-the-clock schedule, until the information was requested by The Times under the state's Public Records Act.

Dr. Thomas Garthwaite, director of the county Department of Health Services, wrote in a memo Monday to the Board of Supervisors that he has "directed the hospital to withhold payment of any outstanding invoices pending the results of the department's review." He also said that Tate no longer works at the hospital.

In an interview, Tate stressed that he worked every hour listed on his timecards. "I took showers at the hospital. I ate my meals at the hospital. I never left," said Tate, 45, whose permanent residence is in Las Vegas.

He said the hospital's radiology department was so short-staffed that there was often no one else around to read X-rays and perform critical diagnostic tests. "For me to leave would be to leave the place without coverage," he said.

Invoices and time sheets show that four King/Drew employees, including the radiology department's interim chairman, signed off on all of Tate's hours, even when they reached 22 to 24 a day for weeks on end.

Dr. Vaughn C. Payne Jr., the department's current interim chairman, did not return calls for comment. Dr. Theodore Q. Miller, who was interim chair until August 2004, said he had "no recollection of the timecards that you're talking about."

Miller said Tate worked for the radiology department during a time when it desperately needed staff for nights and weekends and to cover the trauma center, which has since closed. The shortage became particularly acute last summer after a national accrediting group closed King/Drew's doctor-training program in radiology.

Miller said he recalled Tate working through a weekend but never "working weeks at a time, 24 hours at a time."

Hospital medical director Dr. Roger Peeks said he, too, knew Tate was working a lot, but believed the bulk was restricted to weekends. In hindsight, he said, someone should have been paying attention.

"Nobody should work that many hours," Peeks said. "And it was wrong on everybody's part. It's wrong on our part for not catching it sooner, and Reliable had to know that he was working those hours. They're paying him."

E-mails obtained by The Times suggest that the hospital's acting administrator did at one point last summer question Tate's 24-hour days and ordered the staff to pay only for time Tate was awake and working.

"We can only pay for hours worked!!" David Runke wrote in one e-mail on June 28. Make "sure you don't authorize payment for hours not worked!!"

Health department spokesman John Wallace said he could not explain why Runke's orders were ignored and the invoices paid.

Shane Nagore, a vice president with the Culver City-based Reliable, said his agency isn't in a position to verify a doctor's hours, which are worked out directly with the contracting hospital.

"We have nothing whatsoever to do with the scheduling of any doctor who goes to King/Drew," Nagore said. "They ask us for doctors. We provide them with those doctors. At that point, it is completely at the discretion of the hospital to schedule those doctors as they feel they're needed."

Reliable pays for liability, medical malpractice and workers' compensation insurance for its contractors, but Nagore said Tate received more than three-quarters of the money paid to the agency for his services.

That means that Tate received about $1 million of the $1.319 million King/Drew paid Reliable for Tate's services between March 2004 and February 2005. The payments to Tate follow repeated problems with physician work habits and special contracts at the public hospital in Willowbrook, just south of Watts "” and promises by county health officials to scrutinize them.

Supervisors, for instance, criticized the salary and productivity of King/Drew neurosurgeon George E. Locke, who earned more than $1 million in the last two fiscal years while performing only a handful of surgeries.

In December, The Times detailed that Locke's timecards sometimes showed him working more hours than he actually spent at the hospital. For instance, last July 26, Locke's timecard showed him working 12 hours and being on call an additional 14, for an impossible total of 26 hours. He was at the hospital for 6 1/2 hours.

Locke retired in February. His attorney has said Locke did nothing wrong.

King/Drew also paid nearly $1 million over five years to a surgical instrument company owned by one of its orthopedic surgeons, in violation of Los Angeles County's conflict-of-interest laws.

King/Drew has come under intense scrutiny from regulators and accreditors over the last 21 months because errors and neglect have repeatedly harmed or killed patients.

A Times investigation published in December found that the hospital's failings did not stem from a lack of money, as its supporters had long contended. In fact, in many instances, money at the hospital had been squandered. Millions of dollars went to such things as unusual workers' compensation claims and high doctor salaries.

Garthwaite, the health department director, said the payments to Tate showed additional gaps in oversight at the hospital. "Obviously, someone has not paid close attention to what they're signing," he said. "I don't know the reason why."

Tate said officials at the hospital were well aware that he was often working round-the-clock, and he finds it baffling that they now deny it. In fact, he said, for months on end his wife had to come to the hospital to see him because he couldn't leave.

"They're the ones who asked me to do it," he said, referring to hospital officials. "They signed the invoices, didn't they? And they approved it, right?

"They never complained about the quality of work. They never complained about me being unavailable. They never complained about the quality of the interpretation or the procedures."

Dr. Robert Wachter, chief of the medical service at UC San Francisco Medical Center and coauthor of a book on medical errors, said he couldn't see any valid reason why a radiologist would need to work such long hours.

"I would be concerned," he said. "Can you be as careful after 20 hours as you were in your third hour? It defies logic to believe that the answer is yes."

In his memo to the county supervisors, Garthwaite said that hospital staff members said Tate "spent quite a bit of time working at the hospital, but also indicated that he was provided a room to sleep on campus."

"Thus, we believe that the facility paid Dr. Tate for time that he was on call rather than performing interpretations.... The intent of the contract was not to compensate a physician while he slept, nor ... to cover time spent on campus but away from the service area."

Supervisor Gloria Molina said Monday she had "never seen anything as outrageous as this particular contract."

Molina said she was embarrassed not only that King/Drew paid Reliable so much, but that the county had to learn about it from The Times.

"It just seems as though the [health] department can't be trusted when it comes to these types of contracts.

"I don't know if this is the final humiliation," she said. "I'm just trying to understand at this very moment."

Copyright 2005 Los Angeles Times

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.....including death by the hands of incompetent Black nurses and doctors at MLK.

....and this activity is not unusual considering the fact that this has been going on since the 70s.

"1. Very serious and very real "inequities" on the part of the court system within Los Angeles County.

2. The betrayal of the Black middle class, some of whom have aided and abetted in branding truly innocent Black men or women, with no previous criminal history, as being criminal.

3. Any combination of items 1 and 2." by Lofton

...and it would not be difficult to prove 1, 2, and/or 3.

....Furthermore it would not be too far fetched to believe that no good Merv Dymally is an illegal immigrant, because within the typical Black community, being ethical, respecting property rights, respecting the right to life, respecting the law, following rules, living by accepted standards, etc., are meaningless.

....anything worthwhile grows. Very few things exist that are worthwhile in a Black controlled Compton, South Central Los Angeles, Inglewood, Baltimore, Washington, DC., Oakland, etc.

Where little respect for life, property rights, sanctity of families, rules, accepted standards, etc., little if anything worthwhile grows!

Sincerely,

Michael Lofton
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Michael,

I have ducked bullets before in LA also...the only place in my life I ever had to do so...and i have been all over the world....but that is still not a sweeping endictment of black people....you see Lofton, I come from a place where black people excelled, raised productive families and attained education at our own from our own.....so i know black people who are criminals and drug addicts and I know black peolple who have educated 4 generations at black institutions of higher learning......I have friends who are on the street and I have friends who are lawyers, surgeons, deans of colleges and the whole nine....what they have in common is that they are all black people and I love them all......I am disappointed in some and disgusted at others and others make me so proud they almost bring a tear to my eyes....but i see them all the same and treat them all the same....because we are all the same....some have made bad decisions and others are trying to change and some don't even care....but for the many who are troubled, they do not have a clue of what led to their condition and how to chart a course out of it....and that is what we should do.....not spend our time denigrating them and making their situation worse from a mental perspective...you really need to get help for what ails you.....and put the past aside if you cannot change it......and quit using it as an excuse to be mailicious and hateful toward people who look like you.....if you are not offering a solution to the problem or trying to fix it yourself.....shut the fuck up....you're just wasting good oxygen...
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Michael,

I have ducked bullets before in LA also...the only place in my life I ever had to do so...and i have been all over the world....but that is still not a sweeping endictment of black people....you see Lofton, I come from a place where black people excelled, raised productive families and attained education at our own from our own.....so i know black people who are criminals and drug addicts and I know black peolple who have educated 4 generations at black institutions of higher learning......I have friends who are on the street and I have friends who are lawyers, surgeons, deans of colleges and the whole nine....what they have in common is that they are all black people and I love them all......I am disappointed in some and disgusted at others and others make me so proud they almost bring a tear to my eyes....but i see them all the same and treat them all the same....because we are all the same....some have made bad decisions and others are trying to change and some don't even care....but for the many who are troubled, they do not have a clue of what led to their condition and how to chart a course out of it....and that is what we should do.....not spend our time denigrating them and making their situation worse from a mental perspective...you really need to get help for what ails you.....and put the past aside if you cannot change it......and quit using it as an excuse to be mailicious and hateful toward people who look like you.....if you are not offering a solution to the problem or trying to fix it yourself.....shut the fuck up....you're just wasting good oxygen...


...speak for yourself Kevin41, the good that exists in the Black community, especially as applied to the inner-city is few and far between. I'm alive today because I choose not to hang with any crowd, be it a crowd of Black people, or otherwise. Be it male or female, very few of my classmates from, my early years in Compton, or time spent in South Central Los Angeles, in a Manchester Avenue Elementary School, Horace Mann, Jr. High School, John Muir, Jr. High School, Crenshaw High School, Washington High School, the neighborhood, are living today, or are not ruined for life, behind penal incarceration, be it proven criminal activity or otherwise!

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Black on Black - Why Inner-City Murder Rates Are Soaring
Earl Ofari Hutchinson,
Pacific News Service, Aug 13, 2002

A rising tide of Black-on-Black violence hasn't received the media attention of recent (white) child murder-abductions. But across the country, the murder rate is rising. Most killers and victims are Black. PNS contributor Earl Ofari Hutchinson asks why.

The same week that public attention was riveted on the shocking murder-abduction of Samantha Runnion, the mother of 7-year-old Jaunnicia Milton was gunned down in Oakland, Calif. Her shooting was only the latest in a string of murders in the city, and it got only passing notice.

At the present rate, the murder toll will soar in Oakland to more than 100 by year's end -- and Oakland is no aberration. Murders have sharply risen in every major city across the country, according to the latest report from the Justice Department. The killer of Wilson's mother, and indeed most of the other victims and their killers in major cities are likely to be young, Black and male. The murder rate among Blacks is seven times greater than among whites.

More police, prosecutors, three strikes and mandatory sentencing laws, the death penalty, and putting nearly 1 million Blacks behind bars have done little to curb the Black-on-Black carnage. And they won't.

Despite the pet theories of liberals and conservatives, Blacks aren't killing each other because they are violent or crime-prone by nature, solely because they are poor and oppressed. Or even because they are acting out the obscene and lewd violence they see and hear on TV, films and gangster rap lyrics.

The violence results from a combustible blend of cultural and racial baggage many Blacks carry.

In the past, crimes committed by Blacks against other Blacks were often ignored or lightly punished. Many studies have confirmed that the punishment Blacks receive when the victim is white is far more severe than if the victim is Black. The implicit message is that Black lives are expendable.

This perceived devaluation of Black lives by racism has encouraged disrespect for the law, and has forced many Blacks to internalize anger and displace aggression onto others.

Often these victims are women. When women were groped, fondled and assaulted in New York's Central Park by mostly young Black and Puerto Rican males a few years ago, most observers chalked it up to male misbehavior toward women. But this is far too simple. Too many young Black males have become especially adept at acting out their frustrations at white society's denial of their "manhood" by adopting an exaggerated "tough guy" role. They swagger, boast, curse, fight and commit violent, self-destructive acts. When Black women refuse to be sexually submissive or are perceived as trying to control them, they become frequent targets of violence. Black females aged 20 to 24 were more likely to be assaulted by Black males than white females of the same age by white males, according to Justice Dept. data.

When many Black males indulge their murderous impulses on women and other Black males, they are often taking out their pent-up frustrations on those whom they perceive as helpless and hapless. This is a twisted and warped response to racism and deprivation, blocked opportunities, powerlessness and alienation.

The other powerful ingredient in the deadly mix of Black-on-Black violence is the gang and drug plague. The spread of the drug trade during the 1980s made Black gangs bigger and more dangerous. Drug trafficking provided illicit profits and made gun play more widespread. Gang members used their arsenals to fend off attacks, protect their profits from hostile predators and settle scores with rivals. Much of the recent escalation in the murder rates can be directly traced to busted drug deals, competition over markets and disputes over turf. Often innocent victims are caught in their shootouts, fortifying the conviction of suburban whites that Black communities are depraved war zones.

An economic slowdown, deteriorating public education and the sharp upswing in the number of young persons in the most crime-prone aged group -- 14 to 20 -- may trigger a new wave of killings. Unfortunately, the Justice Department's report contained no suggestions on how to confront this potential rising danger. President Bush and Attorney General John Ashcroft have been stone silent on the high Black murder rates and have not proposed any new policy initiatives to deal with the problem.

It will take a coordinated effort by educators, health professionals, drug counselors, violence prevention specialists, gang intervention activists, victims of violence and local community activists and leaders to stem the violence. They must devise and coordinate short- and long-term strategies and programs to provide jobs, training, better education, and boost the self-esteem of at-risk young Blacks. Public officials must provide the political muscle and resources to implement these programs.

If young whites were killing other whites in the same appalling numbers as Blacks, the public and policy makers would declare a national crisis and rush to address it. The tragedy in Black communities demands the same response.

Hutchinson (EHutchi344@aol.com) is a columnist and the author of "The Crisis in Black and Black" (Middle Passage Press).

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The generations that followed mine, faced an even bleaker set of deadly circumstances.

The Black people who made it, to become doctors, lawyers, elected officials etc., are the exception to the rule. Mind you, very few of the doctors, lawyers, elected officials, etc., who made it even returned to reach back to improve the quality of life in the inner-city. Most Black doctors, lawyers, elected officials, etc., have played the Black community like a harp, to drain the "inner-city" of any remaining assets that have made conditions far worse, than when I was a child! More so than not, the typical Black male is either prison bound, dead, strung out on narcotics, maimed for life, etc.

...and the number of Black females meeting the same fate is on the rise!


....Considering the reality of it, I'm very thankful that I'm still here, to which again, the only individuals I give praise to remain the same!

Sincerely,

Michael Lofton

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Michael,

"Kerosene Waters" LOL!!! Big Grin

Don't those folks in L.A. know that kerosene doesn't mix with water? nono

Anyway, I like to read your input. Keep it coming and pay no heed to that pseudo-egghead Kevin41. Everything he posts is either a putdown of others, a shaggy portfolio of all his wonderful accomplishments in life ("against all odds" with affirmative action), or both.

Finally, my L.A.-based freight forwarder (in So. El Monte) was telling me about the freeway shootings last week by phone. He suspects it's hispanic gang members. Hope they nab them soon.
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"Kerosene Waters" LOL!!! Big Grin

Don't those folks in L.A. know that kerosene doesn't mix with water? nono

Anyway, I like to read your input. Keep it coming and pay no heed to that pseudo-egghead Kevin41. Everything he posts is either a putdown of others, a shaggy portfolio of all his wonderful accomplishments in life ("against all odds" with affirmative action), or both.

Finally, my L.A.-based freight forwarder (in So. El Monte) was telling me about the freeway shootings last week by phone. He suspects it's hispanic gang members. Hope they nab them soon. by EgbertSouse


Thanks for the big up, EgbertSouse.

The rivalry between Black and Hispanics from the penitentiary has spilled into the neighborhood schools, community, etc. Indeed the suspects could be Hispanic as well.

I hope that these individuals are apprehended as soon as possible. So far, the majority of the victims are seemingly affluent Black men. Be the assailant Black or Hispanic, I'm driving my old clunker. Until this activity is arrested, I will do the best that I can to limit freeway travel.

..."Kerosene Waters", I borrowed this expression from an uncle in Baltimore, Maryland. Considering the inflammatory demeanor of Maxine Waters, "Kerosene Waters" is very appropriate!

........ Again, I enjoy your responses, responses based on fact and not fiction.

Sincerely,

Michael Lofton
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From your article:

When many Black males indulge their murderous impulses on women and other Black males, they are often taking out their pent-up frustrations on those whom they perceive as helpless and hapless. This is a twisted and warped response to racism and deprivation, blocked opportunities, powerlessness and alienation.


An economic slowdown, deteriorating public education and the sharp upswing in the number of young persons in the most crime-prone aged group -- 14 to 20 -- may trigger a new wave of killings. Unfortunately, the Justice Department's report contained no suggestions on how to confront this potential rising danger. President Bush and Attorney General John Ashcroft have been stone silent on the high Black murder rates and have not proposed any new policy initiatives to deal with the problem.

It will take a coordinated effort by educators, health professionals, drug counselors, violence prevention specialists, gang intervention activists, victims of violence and local community activists and leaders to stem the violence. They must devise and coordinate short- and long-term strategies and programs to provide jobs, training, better education, and boost the self-esteem of at-risk young Blacks. Public officials must provide the political muscle and resources to implement these programs.

If young whites were killing other whites in the same appalling numbers as Blacks, the public and policy makers would declare a national crisis and rush to address it. The tragedy in Black communities demands the same response.
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:......If young whites were killing other whites in the same appalling numbers as Blacks, the public and policy makers would declare a national crisis and rush to address it. The tragedy in Black communities demands the same response. by Earl Ofari Hutchinson


....I disagree with this last statement because it is very doubtful that young Caucasians would do this. It is highly unlikely that young Caucasians are going to kill off Caucasians in appalling numbers. This being said, there would be no need for the public and policy makers to "declare a national crisis and rush to address it", as Earl Ofari Hutchinson suggests.

Earl Ofari Hutchinson, fails to mention one key thought. The only community that can stop the Black community from destroying itself, is the Black community itself.

Earl Ofari Hutchinson, also fails to mention the reality that Black people are just as responsible, if not more responsible for creating employment opportunity, serving the Black community, truly educating the Black community, etc., to make possible the Black community's own survival.

It is not Corporate Caucasian America's responsibilty to provide employment opportunity for every Black person who walks. Some where, some how, Black people, especially those with the means must provide opportunity for our own community so that more young people will have a chance.

Without gainful employment opportunity, anyone of us could turn against someone else out of the need to survive. You would hope that everyone who faces this situation would be resourceful enough so as not to resort to criminal activity for survival. Gainful employment opportunity is a missing link, to which more must be done by Black people towards this end, so that young black men, women, and their families, do not have to turn to the illicit subculture for survival.

If Black people don't care enough about each other's right to life, liberty, property rights, family rights, pursuit of happiness, etc., it is not the first responsibility of Caucasians or anyone else to stop Black people from being so self-destructive!

The only time Caucasians, or anyone else will respond, is in instances where this foolishness of "Black on Black Crime" spills over into their immediate community, to the point that they must take action to protect members of their own community from being killed, stolen from, maimed, cheated, robbed, carjacked, burglarized, sued, disrespected, etc.

Sincerely,

Michael Lofton
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I guess black people are not all f-ked up eh LoftonFrownthis has nothing to do with the middle class or lower class..this is just people working hard to do the right thing....and they exist all over)

This King/Drew, a Magnet School, Is a Robust Success
By Mitchell Landsberg
Times Staff Writer

April 27, 2005

It is the holy grail of urban education: an inner city public high school that works. A school where students, most of them poor, almost all of them black and Latino, learn together in safety and harmony. Where almost no one drops out. Where an overwhelming majority of students go on to four-year colleges, and where at least some make it to the most prestigious and selective universities.

Few such places exist.

One that does is located in one of Los Angeles County's most impoverished and dangerous neighborhoods, and takes its name from an institution better known these days for scandal than success.

But then, King/Drew Medical Magnet High School has always prided itself on exceeding "” no, shredding "” expectations.

"Everybody has a stereotype that if you grow up in Watts, you're not going to succeed," said senior Omunique Falls, who applied to 12 colleges this year and was accepted at 11. "That just motivates me to do better. I use it to my advantage."

That attitude and smart, dedicated students such as Falls are among the reasons that King/Drew routinely sends more African Americans to UCLA than any other high school. This year, 20 King/Drew students were accepted at the Westwood campus, eight of them black, the rest Latino. Students were also accepted by Harvard, Stanford, Princeton, Duke, Cornell and four other University of California campuses.

King/Drew was second only to Garfield High School in East Los Angeles for having the most Latino, Chicano and African American students accepted by UC Berkeley, according to Richard Black, assistant vice chancellor for admissions and enrollment.

"King/Drew is just this jewel," said Phyllis Hart, a UCLA official who works to encourage qualified minorities, in the post-affirmative action era, to select UCLA over other schools. The school is, she said, "this wonderful place where you see all the things that people say you can't get done, getting done."

Hart led a delegation of nearly a dozen UCLA officials to King/Drew on Monday to meet the students who were accepted to the university "” and to practically beg them to attend.

"We would love to have you walking around our campus, making it a more flavorful place," said Soncia Lilly, an assistant vice chancellor.

King/Drew's principal, J. Michelle Woods, said the secret to the school's success was simple: a relatively small, close-knit group of students (King/Drew's enrollment is a little less than 1,700, compared to 4,000 or 5,000 at many high schools); staff that didn't let youths slip through the cracks; and high expectations.

At a time when the L.A. Board of Education is considering whether to require a college prep curriculum for all students, King/Drew is already there.

It demands that students take the rigorous courses meeting UC and Cal State system requirements. That means, among other things, four years of math, two years of science and two years of foreign language.

King/Drew actually goes further and requires a third year of foreign language and four years of science.

The campus in Willowbrook, just south of Watts, isn't alone among Los Angeles public schools in making tough demands on its students. It has, in fact, a mirror institution: Francisco Bravo Medical Magnet, near County/USC Medical Center, which also requires all students to meet the UC entrance requirements and sends a similar percentage of students to college.

Still, Hart, who has been tracking how well schools prepare minorities for college, said such campuses were exceptions.

In an interview, she cited high schools in L.A. and Pasadena where fewer than a third of black students took a college-entry curriculum. At some, she said, less than 10% of African American boys were on a college track.

Board of Education President Jose Huizar and trustee Jon Lauritzen introduced a motion Tuesday that would make the college prep curriculum a graduation requirement throughout the Los Angeles Unified School District, beginning with the freshman class of 2008.

As a matter of equity, Huizar said, the district should set "high expectations for all our students, not just some."

Anticipating an opposing argument, he added: "A lot of people think that if we set a higher bar, we will have higher dropouts because our children cannot perform. That is false. Our students can perform if we give them that opportunity in our schools."

For years, that opportunity has been available at King/Drew.

The school began life in 1982 in a few bungalows on the campus of nearby Jordan High School in Watts. Like so many institutions in South L.A., it was the fruit of a struggle by local activists, who saw the need for a place that would encourage minorities to become doctors and nurses. Many of King/Drew's graduates have done just that.

In 1999, it moved to its current campus, centered around an airy, curvilinear, brick-and-glass building at 120th Street and Compton Avenue, directly across from Martin Luther King Jr./Drew Medical Center and next door to Charles R. Drew University of Medicine and Science.

The high school is affiliated with both institutions, particularly the hospital, where students participate in medical research and learn the workings of various departments.

While the school has soared, both the county-run medical center and the university have struggled, with the hospital blamed for a series of deadly errors in the last two years. Students and administrators at King/Drew High said the troubles didn't directly affect them.

Principal Woods said her main problem was one of perception. As people in the community have heard of the hospital's troubles, she said, they have sometimes called to ask if the school is at risk. She ruefully remembered the calls received after the medical center lost its national accreditation.

"I had to tell them that we received a six-year accreditation," she said. "Our flag flies every day."

King/Drew may be, as its advocates say, a model for other public schools, but it enjoys advantages that others don't. As a magnet, it receives additional federal money and has greater power to select its teaching staff. It has a spacious building with well-equipped labs and an abundance of textbooks and other teaching materials.

It also, perhaps oddly, has twice as many girls as boys "” a result, administrators say, of its lack of a football program. College administrators say girls are more and more likely than boys to qualify for college admission.

Finally, and perhaps most important, as a magnet school it has a self-selected student body "” and active, engaged parents. Magnets were created as part of a court-ordered desegregation plan to draw together students from diverse neighborhoods. Some of the schools have entrance requirements, but most, like King/Drew, accept a random share of those who apply.

"Our mom let us choose our high school "” thank God," said Tiffany Russell, a 5-foot-3-inch bundle of intellectual energy wrapped in cornrows. She lives within three blocks of Washington Preparatory High School, among the city's lowest-performing schools.

She finds King/Drew an oasis where an academically driven student is accepted. That isn't always the case outside, she said. "It's hard sometimes, because you want to be yourself but you don't want to be disconnected from the rest of your community," she said.

Tiffany, who wants to be a physician or a veterinarian, said she was admitted to several colleges, including UCLA, USC and Cal State L.A. Although she said her mother thought Cal State L.A. would be more affordable, Tiffany was leaning toward UCLA after being assured "” and reassured "” by the university's scholarship coordinator, Mary Horne, that she would receive enough financial aid.

"Everybody's in competition for you guys," Horne told the King/Drew students. "You guys are so blessed, because everybody wants you."

Times staff writer Erika Hayasaki contributed to this report.
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:......If young whites were killing other whites in the same appalling numbers as Blacks, the public and policy makers would declare a national crisis and rush to address it. The tragedy in Black communities demands the same response. by Earl Ofari Hutchinson


....I disagree with this last statement because it is very doubtful that young Caucasians would do this. It is highly unlikely that young Caucasians are going to kill off Caucasians in appalling numbers. This being said, there would be no need for the public and policy makers to "declare a national crisis and rush to address it", as Earl Ofari Hutchinson suggests.

Earl Ofari Hutchinson, fails to mention one key thought. The only community that can stop the Black community from destroying itself, is the Black community itself.

Earl Ofari Hutchinson, also fails to mention the reality that Black people are just as responsible, if not more responsible for creating employment opportunity, serving the Black community, truly educating the Black community, etc., to make possible the Black community's own survival.

It is not Corporate Caucasian America's responsibilty to provide employment opportunity for every Black person who walks. Some where, some how, Black people, especially those with the means must provide opportunity for our own community so that more young people will have a chance.

Without gainful employment opportunity, anyone of us could turn against someone else out of the need to survive. You would hope that everyone who faces this situation would be resourceful enough so as not to resort to criminal activity for survival. Gainful employment opportunity is a missing link, to which more must be done by Black people towards this end, so that young black men, women, and their families, do not have to turn to the illicit subculture for survival.

If Black people don't care enough about each other's right to life, liberty, property rights, family rights, pursuit of happiness, etc., it is not the first responsibility of Caucasians or anyone else to stop Black people from being so self-destructive!

The only time Caucasians, or anyone else will respond, is in instances where this foolishness of "Black on Black Crime" spills over into their immediate community, to the point that they must take action to protect members of their own community from being killed, stolen from, maimed, cheated, robbed, carjacked, burglarized, sued, disrespected, etc.

Sincerely,

Michael Lofton


so Lofton....what do you atribute to young whites being much better people than young blacks and according to your words make you so doubtful that they would not committ the crimes, despite the discrimination and other social factors Earl Ofari mentioned?


And are you saying that whites really do not give a f-k about crime in black neighborhoods nor should they care?
....so Lofton....what do you atribute to young whites being much better people than young blacks and according to your words make you so doubtful that they would not committ the crimes, despite the discrimination and other social factors Earl Ofari mentioned? by Kevin41

.....I can't speak for Caucasians. I will say that this has yet to happen. Anyone who has respect for themselves or their people would not do this, meaning they must have more respect for themselves and each other, than for

......"young whites were killing other whites in the same appalling numbers as Blacks, the public and policy makers would declare a national crisis and rush to address it." by Earl Ofari Hutchinson

.....Again, I cannot speak for Caucasians, Hispanics, Filipinos, etc. I will say most all other ethnic groups, or cultures, have set policies or actions to keep the Black community saturated with enough police, who shoot to kill, so as to keep a lid on Black on Black criminal activity or other criminal acts, so that little, if any, of this self destructive activity spills over into any affluent community of Caucasian America, Hispanic community, Filipino community, etc., as applied to the suburbs.

Sincerely,

Michael Lofton
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AARRGHHHHH bang

Lofton, on most occasions, reading your posts just send me over the edge.

"....I disagree with this last statement because it is very doubtful that young Caucasians would do this. It is highly unlikely that young Caucasians are going to kill off Caucasians in appalling numbers." by Lofton

Then ...

"Without gainful employment opportunity, anyone of us could turn against someone else out of the need to survive. You would hope that everyone who faces this situation would be resourceful enough so as not to resort to criminal activity for survival. Gainful employment opportunity is a missing link..." by Lofton

Do you see a flaw in your argument here.

Lofton, Why do you hate Black people so much? Your hate of Black people is pathological.

Seriously, you should really seek counseling.
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AARRGHHHHH bang

Lofton, on most occasions, reading your posts just send me over the edge.

"....I disagree with this last statement because it is very doubtful that young Caucasians would do this. It is highly unlikely that young Caucasians are going to kill off Caucasians in appalling numbers." by Lofton

Then ...

"Without gainful employment opportunity, anyone of us could turn against someone else out of the need to survive. You would hope that everyone who faces this situation would be resourceful enough so as not to resort to criminal activity for survival. Gainful employment opportunity is a missing link..." by Lofton

Do you see a flaw in your argument here.

Lofton, Why do you hate Black people so much? Your hate of Black people is pathological.

Seriously, you should really seek counseling. by Kweli4Real


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Supervisor Calls On Health Chief to Quit
Upset at King/Drew's latest woe, Antonovich berates the official, who later says he's staying.
By Charles Ornstein and Tracy Weber
Times Staff Writers

April 27, 2005

Los Angeles County Supervisor Mike Antonovich called Tuesday for the resignation of the county's health director, saying Dr. Thomas Garthwaite didn't know what was going on in his own department.

Antonovich's call came during the second rancorous Board of Supervisors meeting in three weeks about troubles at Martin Luther King Jr./Drew Medical Center "” and the same day as new revelations came to light about the public hospital.

The Times reported Tuesday that King/Drew had paid more than $1.3 million from March 2004 to February 2005 for the services of a radiologist who said that, during one recent six-month stretch, he worked an average of 20 hours a day, seven days a week.

County Department of Health Services officials said they were unaware of such a marathon schedule for Dr. Harold A. Tate, who worked under contract to an outside firm, until The Times inquired about his pay and hours.

"Dr. Garthwaite, perhaps now is the time for you to step aside," Antonovich said as the health director sat stone-faced before him at the weekly meeting. Scattered gasps and applause rippled through the chambers.

"There has to be full accounting," Antonovich said. "We don't know what we're going to read next week."

Garthwaite, whose voice in earlier testimony had been barely audible because of illness, did not respond during the meeting. Later, in an interview, he said, "I'm not considering resigning at this time.

"I think the director of health services has always been under fire, and I believe it's the nature of the job," he added. "I think most people in healthcare in L.A. understand that."

None of the other supervisors joined Antonovich's call for the resignation. Supervisor Yvonne Brathwaite Burke, whose district includes King/Drew, has said the current crisis at the hospital requires stable leadership in the health department.

But the supervisors expressed frustration Tuesday that they continued to learn of the medical center's problems from the media and not from the department or from Navigant Consulting Inc., the turnaround firm the county is paying $13.2 million to overhaul King/Drew.

"We didn't terminate [Tate] until we were called by the L.A. Times," Supervisor Gloria Molina said during a lengthy grilling of health officials.

The supervisors asked why four King/Drew employees, including the radiology department's interim chairman, regularly signed off on all Tate's hours, even when they reached 22 to 24 hours a day for weeks at a time.

The board, with Supervisor Don Knabe absent, passed two motions calling on the health department and county auditor to investigate the matter and report back. They also asked county lawyers to review the findings and take legal action, if appropriate, to recoup county funds "that may have been inappropriately disbursed."

Under questioning, county officials said King/Drew had eight full-time radiologists "” one of whom was on leave "” and six others under contract. They said they were unsure what the other radiologists were doing while Tate allegedly worked around the clock.

"What was going on in the radiology department where there were 15 physicians, permanent full-time radiologists, and you had one person working 23 hours a day?" Molina demanded as the officials scrambled for answers.

The people who approved Tate's hours, she said, were "either real, real dense when they were signing all of these authorizations over and over again, or they were taking money for being so stupid."

Reliable Health Care Services, the temporary agency that provided Tate's services to the hospital and collected up to $225 an hour for his work, categorically denied any wrongdoing.

Vice President Shane Nagore said in a telephone interview Tuesday that Reliable repeatedly asked the county about Tate's hours. He said the hospital responded that it did not have anyone else to cover the shifts.

"Of course we brought it up to them: Are these hours correct?" Nagore said. "They said, 'We've signed off on them. Yes.' They said [that] because of lack of coverage, he was forced to stay hours beyond what we would normally have a radiologist stay. As long as all the work was being done, they never objected. Never."

Nagore also said hospital finance employees specifically directed Tate and Reliable to submit the hours in smaller increments so they wouldn't attract attention.

"We were even told on occasion, not all the time, to list them all as eight-hour shifts so it wouldn't show as one whole shift," Nagore said. "Maybe it wouldn't raise as many red flags."

Tate said that he was at the hospital for all of the hours listed on his time sheets and that if he had left, there would have been nobody there to interpret X-rays.

Both the supervisors and health officials said his schedule was troubling in any light.

"Either he was working the 23 hours, which was very inappropriate, or he wasn't and he was paid completely inappropriately," said Fred Leaf, the health department's chief operating officer.

"So it potentially could be a fraud case?" Molina asked.

"Could be. Yes," he answered.

Supervisors also said they were bothered that the former acting administrator at King/Drew ordered staff members last summer not to pay invoices seeking round-the-clock compensation for Tate "” but that his orders were ignored.

The hospital's current medical director, Dr. Roger Peeks, said Monday that he did not know the extent of Tate's hours.

But a memo to him in July from the former interim radiology chairman said an increase in pay allowed King/Drew to "continue coverage with an in-house radiologist 24 hours per day, seven days per week."

"The bulk of coverage was provided by a single physician (Harold Tate)," wrote Dr. Theodore Q. Miller.

Peeks said Tuesday that he believed Tate's hours had been cut back.

"I was under the impression that it stopped," the medical director said, adding that he did not review Tate's time sheets to be certain.

Molina said she wanted the current interim chairman of radiology, Dr. Vaughn C. Payne Jr., to testify before the Board of Supervisors about why he approved Tate's invoices.

And she asked to meet privately with the other finance employees who signed off on those forms. That meeting is scheduled for today.

Supervisors said they were flummoxed by so many contradictory statements about who approved Tate's payments.

"Who are we supposed to trust on this?" Molina said.

A short time later, Leaf responded, "Based on this one, I would say you're correct. You can't trust anyone."

Copyright 2005 Los Angeles Times

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"....Lofton, Why do you hate Black people so much? Your hate of Black people is pathological.

Seriously, you should really seek counseling."by Kweli4Real

....nope, I think some of the Black middle class need a lot more than just counseling.

The people who approved Tate's hours, she said, were "either real, real dense when they were signing all of these authorizations over and over again, or they were taking money for being so stupid." by Los Angeles County Supervisor Gloria Molina

...so true Supervisor Gloria Molina. Tate and those of Black middle class status who promoted this foolishness are beyond ignorant, meaning very stupid!

..more likely some of the Black middle class hate themselves, and the Black community!


Sincerely,

Michael Lofton
One could easily gather from your postings that either you don't want to or just have a difficult time in presenting a balanced presentation of problems in our community. While no doubt the black community has problems how is that difference from any other ethnic community or social class.

Every major school shooting in this country in the last 3-4 years has been committed by white males, every major scandal involving a Fortune 500 company in the last 3-4 years has been committed by a white male, the last couple of child kipnapping, sexual abuse and murders that garner national attention were committed by white males.

Not sure what your motive is but when you clearly show bias in ignoring the shit other ethnic groups committ while obiviously taking delight in showcasing the black community, no matter how you chose to color it, you have some issues.

I haven't seem anyone on this board try to defend the items you bring up, we're just curious why you chose to ignore all the other shit that those other folks do to their own.
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"One could easily gather from your postings that either you don't want to or just have a difficult time in presenting a balanced presentation of problems in our community. While no doubt the black community has problems how is that difference from any other ethnic community or social class.

Every major school shooting in this country in the last 3-4 years has been committed by white males, every major scandal involving a Fortune 500 company in the last 3-4 years has been committed by a white male, the last couple of child kipnapping, sexual abuse and murders that garner national attention were committed by white males.

Not sure what your motive is but when you clearly show bias in ignoring the shit other ethnic groups committ while obiviously taking delight in showcasing the black community, no matter how you chose to color it, you have some issues.

I haven't seem anyone on this board try to defend the items you bring up, we're just curious why you chose to ignore all the other shit that those other folks do to their own." by jazzdog


I side with victims, as opposed to the assailants. I give praise to the oppressed who stand tall in the name of righteousness, and being ethical as oppossed to the disgracefullness, greed, and sleaze of any oppressor!

...again the Caucasians are not responsible for the demise of Black America!


"Every major school shooting in this country in the last 3-4 years has been committed by white males, every major scandal involving a Fortune 500 company in the last 3-4 years has been committed by a white male, the last couple of child kipnapping, sexual abuse and murders that garner national attention were committed by white males." by jazzdog

.....and Caucasians hold those who have committed such activity accountable.


......In contrast, many of the so-called Black middle-class praise disgraceful activity or elect to do anything but hold the elected Black leadership or others in positions of influence accountable.

Many of the so-called Black middle-class are co-conspirators, or join in on the oppression of the truly innocent, and/or the truly honorable!

I'm not looking for praise, or any amen corner clap from anyone on this board or otherwise. The truth, the reality of it, stands alone, and does not need an amen corner to prove its' merit!

Sincerely,

Michael Lofton
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You are making some very huge assumptions based on what? You are clearly coloring all of the black middle class with a very large brush which is amazing since I firmly believe that you would not allow anybody to paint you in such a manner.

You speak of not holding black elected officials accountable while the big headlines in this country concern one Majority House leader who will probably get away with some serious issues of a dubious nature. We have continued issues of voter fraud where the common element is white males working overtime to deny blacks the right to vote, where are whites in correcting these issues.

I'll give you credit in that you are real good in finding out dirt on us and exposing it just how about some fair and balance exposure for the other side.
You've got it JazzDog. For the most part, no one cares about the unsupportable crap that Lofton posts (see my 4/27/05, 3:45p.m. post at http://africanamerica.org/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/7401089581/m/1191010412/r/4711015762#4711015762).

Most are far more concerned with his being Black(?), and apparently having an orgasm whenever the media reports on any Black person that has committed a crime or exhibits incompetence. All the while, ignoring the majority of the media reports that clearly show that those same things can be found in the white community.
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You've got it JazzDog. For the most part, no one cares about the unsupportable crap that Lofton posts (see my 4/27/05, 3:45p.m. post at http://africanamerica.org/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/7401089581/m/1191010412/r/4711015762#4711015762).

Most are far more concerned with his being Black(?), and apparently having an orgasm whenever the media reports on any Black person that has committed a crime or exhibits incompetence. All the while, ignoring the majority of the media reports that clearly show that those same things can be found in the white community. by Kweli4Real


....again, I'm not about to flip this script!

Sincerely,

Michael Lofton
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How is asking you (ignored), demanding for you (ignored), challenging you (so far ignored) to support your assertions an attempt to "flip your script?"

BTW, it's interesting that you choose the word "Script" as in a "copy of the text of a play, film, etc." [Webster's New World Dictionary (pocket edition). (See how easy it is to cite a source? lol

Should we cast your rants as comedy or tragedy?
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Originally posted by jazzdog:
You are making some very huge assumptions based on what? You are clearly coloring all of the black middle class with a very large brush which is amazing since I firmly believe that you would not allow anybody to paint you in such a manner.

You speak of not holding black elected officials accountable while the big headlines in this country concern one Majority House leader who will probably get away with some serious issues of a dubious nature. We have continued issues of voter fraud where the common element is white males working overtime to deny blacks the right to vote, where are whites in correcting these issues.

I'll give you credit in that you are real good in finding out dirt on us and exposing it just how about some fair and balance exposure for the other side." by jazzdog


I believe that I have given this a very fair assessment. Besides, Los Angeles Superior Court Case #895188 is a lawsuit to which Mr. and Mrs. Leon E. Lofton, Jr. Family, are the plaintiffs and the Los Angeles Unified School District are the Defendants! Now the LAUSD is one of the wealthiest school districts in the U.S.

This being said, this should be sufficient enough to answer any notion to infer that Caucasians have not been left out of the mix, as to atrocities perpetrated against the Lofton Family!

The defendants have already admitted guilt. It just happens that along the way the so-called Black middleclass joined the ranks of the perpetrators!

...This being said the condemnation of the Black middle class is in fact warranted!

Sincerely,

Michael Lofton
Just what are you so mad about, clicking on your links doesn't really say anything other then for one you seem mad about some injustice aganist your family from local government and social workers. How is that a stain on the entire middle class of black america.

I am black middle class and personnelly I don't know you or your family from boo, but you comments would include me in some large scale conspiray aganist your family, don't you think that is just alittle over the top and does nothing but to paint you as someone who has lost his grasp on reality.

If you firmly believe that white america has always had your best interest at heart and that the black leadership with its all its flaws didn't then you clearly are not living in reality. While I have my own issues with Jesse Jackson and his style, an intelligent man does not paint so broad a picture (black middle class) as it dilutes his argument into the ravings of a man who has lost his mind.
"Just what are you so mad about, clicking on your links doesn't really say anything other then for one you seem mad about some injustice aganist your family from local government and social workers. How is that a stain on the entire middle class of black america.

I am black middle class and personnelly I don't know you or your family from boo, but you comments would include me in some large scale conspiray aganist your family, don't you think that is just alittle over the top and does nothing but to paint you as someone who has lost his grasp on reality.

If you firmly believe that white america has always had your best interest at heart and that the black leadership with its all its flaws didn't then you clearly are not living in reality. While I have my own issues with Jesse Jackson and his style, an intelligent man does not paint so broad a picture (black middle class) as it dilutes his argument into the ravings of a man who has lost his mind." by jazzdog


....and you can only speak for yourself. I have good reason for condemning Black America's own elected leadership, social workers, probation officers, preachers, etc.

I have, unlike your contention named many of the individuals, and it is certain that there are many more.

.....The only individuals condemned are those who have shown themselves to be incompetent, sleazy, unethical, uncouth, treasonous, etc., .....and it is not just Michael Lofton, saying so!

....now if this too, is also you, then you should be able to answer your own inquiry!

Sincerely,

Michael Lofton

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I'm sure you can relate to this, Lofton.

http://www.msnbc.com/comics/daily.asp?sFile=bo050424


Nope, Aaron McGruder is not someone I can respect or follow! He is cut from the same cloth as "Kerosene Waters"!

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http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-blacks30apr30,1,3044540.story?coll=la-headlines-california

LOS ANGELES ELECTIONS

Latino-Black Alliance Seems to Be Forming
Villaraigosa's campaign is seen as a catalyst. But African Americans still uneasy over a Mexican American as mayor could weaken the trend.

By Michael Finnegan and Richard Fausset, Times Staff Writers

April 30, 2005

Polls and endorsements suggest that a historic alliance of blacks and Latinos is taking shape behind the mayoral campaign of City Councilman Antonio Villaraigosa. But political strategists say anxiety among some blacks about supporting a Latino for mayor could make that alliance tenuous.

Driving the anxiety, the strategists say, is a sense of rivalry over political power and jobs that has intensified amid a surge in the Latino population of South Los Angeles, where most of the city's African Americans live.

Villaraigosa campaign aides say they still must overcome voter misgivings before he faces Mayor James K. Hahn in the May 17 runoff election.

Some blacks "think that because it's a Latino candidate, he'll only take care of Latinos, and therefore African Americans will somehow be left out of the picture and diminished," said Anthony Thigpenn, director of campaign field operations for Villaraigosa.

"It's a big challenge for Villaraigosa," said Thigpenn, an African American who has worked for years to strengthen political ties between the two groups. "It's a big challenge for L.A."

Blacks, who composed 16% of those who cast ballots last month, are one of the voting blocs that strategists for both candidates have described as up for grabs in the runoff. Initial signs point to an edge for Villaraigosa, who lost the mayor's race to Hahn four years ago.

A Times poll this month found that African Americans favored the councilman over Hahn by 20 points "” but were less likely than Latinos and whites to believe that he would pay equal attention to all ethnic groups.

Interviews with about three dozen black voters in South Los Angeles found ambivalence about a Latino mayor among both supporters and opponents of Villaraigosa.

Devon Dunning, 38, a vendor on Crenshaw Boulevard, said he was dissatisfied with Hahn and leaned toward Villaraigosa. But he had misgivings. "I'm not really sure he has the benefit of our community at heart," he said of the councilman.

For Hahn, a crucial goal in the campaign's final weeks is to recapture his family's once-formidable African American political base, built over decades by his late father, county Supervisor Kenneth Hahn. His biggest obstacle: The mayor has yet to recover from the African American backlash against his push in 2002 to oust a black police chief, Bernard C. Parks.

Many issues beyond race are sure to drive the black vote "” among them crime and education. And many black supporters of Hahn say race has nothing to do with their choice.

"He's done some good things, and I just like his style," said George Williams, 82, a retired postal worker.

But racial divisions have long been central to Los Angeles mayoral campaigns. Most notably, Mayor Sam Yorty stirred racial fears in 1969 to defeat his challenger, Tom Bradley, an African American who went on to oust the white incumbent in 1973.

"There was a lot of anger, and there was a lot of prejudice," recalled Geraldine R. Washington, a Bradley volunteer who heads the Los Angeles branch of the National Assn. for the Advancement of Colored People.

She drew a parallel between fears that some whites had about Bradley, the city's first black mayor, and qualms that some blacks have about Villaraigosa.

"Some people are afraid that this means that they will not be able to hold on to what they have," she said.

More than 30 years have passed since the acrimonious Bradley-Yorty campaigns. Hahn's media strategist, Bill Carrick, said the mayor would not seek to exploit racial fears "” an accusation leveled by some critics against Hahn during the race four years ago.

"People should vote for who they think is the best candidate, and they shouldn't be considering what somebody's ethnicity is," Carrick said.

Latino and black politicians and community groups have increasingly worked together in recent years on matters of mutual interest in California, and Villaraigosa has long championed those efforts. Latino-led organized labor backed the elections of Councilman Martin Ludlow and Assemblywoman Karen Bass (D-Los Angeles), both African Americans and staunch Villaraigosa supporters.

Villaraigosa has faced direct questions from African Americans about whether he would favor Latinos. In response, he has invoked Bradley's legacy and pledged diversity at City Hall. He has also touted the endorsements of an array of influential black residents: former basketball star Magic Johnson, Rep. Maxine Waters (D-Los Angeles), county Supervisor Yvonne Brathwaite Burke, now-Councilman Parks and pastors of major black churches.

To broaden his one strength among blacks from four years ago "” younger voters "” Villaraigosa has paid frequent trips to African American churches. Many of those visits occurred long before the current contest hit its stride.

"I'm running for mayor like Tom Bradley did 30 years ago: to be a mayor for all the people," Villaraigosa said at a debate held by the Los Angeles Sentinel, an African American newspaper.

That message has reached voters such as Kennon Dawson, 37, a barber at Curry's Hair Parlor on Florence Avenue. He said Villaraigosa would "help not just his people, but all of us."

"Why not give Latinos a chance to lead?" he added.

But to those African Americans who worry about Latino ascendance, the black political power symbolized by Bradley's 20 years as mayor now seems fleeting "” especially given the scant progress in improving conditions in South L.A., said Regina Freer, head of Occidental College's politics department.

"It's not lost on African American voters that the unemployment rate in the African American community is so high," she said. "There's a fear that there will be no will "” by anybody "” to address it."

The 17.7% jobless rate for blacks in Los Angeles County last month was more than quadruple the 4.3% rate for Latinos, state figures show.

Over the last generation, dramatic demographic shifts have swept across South L.A. From 1980 to 2000, the black share of the city's population south of the Santa Monica and Pomona freeways dropped from 41% to 24%, while the Latino share grew from 29% to 53%, census figures show.

Latinos' political influence has grown accordingly. In 1980, they held just six of the most significant elected offices in the county; by 2004 they had 30, according to the Center for the Study of Los Angeles at Loyola Marymount University. Over the same period, the number of blacks holding significant elected posts in the county dropped slightly, from 15 to 14.

Those trends are apt to accelerate when political maps are redrawn after the 2010 census. For African Americans, it will be harder to maintain dominance in increasingly Latino districts now represented by black elected officials, such as Assemblyman Mervyn Dymally (D-Compton) and City Councilwoman Jan Perry.

"It's going to get more competitive," said Alan Clayton, a redistricting expert who has worked to expand Latino representation.

Larry Aubry, a Sentinel columnist, described the prevailing attitude among black voters as "fear and resentment" toward Latino political progress. He called it "a visceral thing, an emotional thing."

"Unfortunately, the areas of commonality tend to be minimized, or not dealt with sufficiently," said Aubry, citing poverty, racial bias and substandard public schools as concerns of both blacks and Latinos.

Racial divisions were apparent in a poll of Los Angeles County residents this year by the Public Policy Institute of California. It found that just 40% of African Americans viewed immigrants as a benefit to the county and 46% saw them as more of a burden because of their use of public services. By contrast, 81% of Latinos saw immigrants as a benefit. Whites were almost evenly split on the question.

At a Florence Avenue dry cleaner's last week, bus driver Bobby Whitfield, 66, voiced concerns that illegal immigrants from Latin America were taking low-wage jobs and depressing pay for others.

He said illegal immigrants failed to pay taxes, depriving the city of money needed to maintain roads and trim trees. An L.A. resident since 1957, Whitfield, who is black, doubts that Villaraigosa will address the matter.

"If you just sit around and think about it, he's going to be forced to lean toward some of the issues of the Latinos," said Whitfield, a Hahn supporter. "That's just a natural thing."

More blunt was Gwen Nolan, the 68-year-old proprietor of Gwen's Double Dip ice cream stand at 76th Street and Western Avenue. She said she had watched her competitors "” Latino street vendors "” make gains while she had to comply with strict health and safety codes. She called Hahn "the last chance for blacks."

"These Mexicans are taking over everything," she said. "Villaraigosa ain't going to do nothing for us."

For Villaraigosa, a key question is whether tension between blacks and Latinos "” underscored this month by what police called racially driven brawls at Jefferson High School "” could hamper his quest to beat Hahn.

In the 2001 runoff, Villaraigosa carried just 20% of the black vote, a dismal showing attributed largely to the Hahn name's popularity in South L.A.

Last month, Villaraigosa won even less of the black vote "” 15% "” in the initial election. He trailed Parks, who captured 54%, and Hahn, who garnered 23%. Villaraigosa surpassed Hahn in the Times poll earlier this month largely because of support from black voters who had cast ballots for Parks in the first round.

With such a short-term record of black support, Villaraigosa's gains among African Americans could erode quickly under the scorching TV ad assault that Hahn plans to mount. But displeasure over the ouster of Parks as police chief remains a big drag on Hahn's effort to rebuild black support.

The mayor's attacks on Villaraigosa could also carry less weight than they did four years ago, because the councilman is better known and Hahn has been weakened by corruption investigations of his administration.

One ex-Hahn supporter backing Villaraigosa is Sam LaSan, 45, an electrician who was working on Jefferson Boulevard. He called Hahn "a backbiter" for the way he treated Parks.

Yet LaSan worries that Villaraigosa might favor Latinos over blacks. "I want Villaraigosa to help Hispanic people," he said. "But just help everybody."

Times data analyst Sandra Poindexter contributed to this report.

Copyright 2005 Los Angeles Times
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.....and the future of the Black middleclass is in serious jeapardy. Jumping on the band waggon or forming alliances with Hispanics is not going to benefit the Black Community.

....The Black middle class had better get busy, because the future posterity of the entire Black community is at stake.

Sincerely,

Michael Lofton

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"Just what are you so mad about, clicking on your links doesn't really say anything other then for one you seem mad about some injustice aganist your family from local government and social workers. How is that a stain on the entire middle class of black america.

I am black middle class and personnelly I don't know you or your family from boo, but you comments would include me in some large scale conspiray aganist your family, don't you think that is just alittle over the top and does nothing but to paint you as someone who has lost his grasp on reality.

If you firmly believe that white america has always had your best interest at heart and that the black leadership with its all its flaws didn't then you clearly are not living in reality. While I have my own issues with Jesse Jackson and his style, an intelligent man does not paint so broad a picture (black middle class) as it dilutes his argument into the ravings of a man who has lost his mind." by jazzdog


....and you can only speak for yourself. I have good reason for condemning Black America's own elected leadership, social workers, probation officers, preachers, etc.

I have, unlike your contention named many of the individuals, and it is certain that there are many more.

.....The only individuals condemned are those who have shown themselves to be incompetent, sleazy, unethical, uncouth, treasonous, etc., .....and it is not just Michael Lofton, saying so!

....now if this too, is also you, then you should be able to answer your own inquiry!

Sincerely,

Michael Lofton


I hoped for honest discussion from you but its clear that you are way to gone for that to happen, clicking on your links takes one to the same old link that all your links go to.

All you have is good reason to name the individuals and insitutions that wronged you and your family, to tied that to an entire class of people is the thing that unreasoned and unintelligent people do.
"I hoped for honest discussion from you but its clear that you are way to gone for that to happen, clicking on your links takes one to the same old link that all your links go to.

All you have is good reason to name the individuals and insitutions that wronged you and your family, to tied that to an entire class of people is the thing that unreasoned and unintelligent people do." by jazzdog



...unlike your contention, I have not condemned the entire Black community.

....However, the Black middle class, be it elected leaders, lawyers, or otherwise, are under attack, some of the attacks are merited, and some are not so merited.

If Black people in positions of influence don't start being more responsible then Black people will pay dearly.

Black people are being displaced by Hispanics, be the Hispanics, illegal, or legal immigrants. Some of our own Black elected leadership, and a dying Black middleclass have formed alliances with Hispanics, thinking that this will benefit the Black community.

....The Hispanic community are going to use the power of voting Black people, through no good illegal immigrant Merv Dymally, "Brentwood" Burke, Bernard Parks, etc., to move the Hispanic community forward.

......What a deal, speaking of daily confrontations with Hispanics that many times result in the death or maiming of Black people from animosity that has spilled over from the penitentiary to the streets, and at the same time, our own Black leadership form alliances with Hispanics, thinking that such an alliance is going to boost the Black community's best interest! City Councilman Antonio Villaraigosa is playing the hatred that Black people have toward Caucasians, specifically Mayor James Hahn, to use the Black vote to move the Hispanic community forward.


....The two faces of Antonio Villaraigosa

....More on Antonio Villaraigosa....

...and just as before the same response to which I have good reason, and factual evidence to prove that no good Brentwood Burke, Carpetbagging Martin Ludlow, no Good Merv Dymally, etc., are betraying the Black community, and many Black Preachers are truly sacrilegious.

Since this information is already documented by Los Angeles County Superior Court Case# 895188,
those who choose to find out have the option to see for themselves.

...again, I have good reason for condemning many of Black America's own elected leadership, social workers, probation officers, preachers, lawyers, the NAACP, etc.

I have, unlike your contention named many of the individuals, and it is certain that there are many more.

.....The only individuals condemned are those who have shown themselves to be incompetent, sleazy, unethical, uncouth, treasonous, etc., .....and it is not just Michael Lofton, saying so!

...can't be any more on the level than this. It will cost me considerable time, considerable expense to post all this information on the internet.

....Besides, this in not logical, considering the fact that the Los Angeles Superior Court Case C8985188 is of public record.

....Heck, gaining access to the information costs me considerable time and money.

......since you and/or others seek to know, there is nothing stopping you from paying the fee, or taking it upon yourself go down to sign out the information. The Los Angeles County Superior Court, specifically the Los Angeles County Hall of Records will not permit any case file to leave its premises.

Sincerely,

Michael Lofton

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so Lofton, what do you think of white supremacist and terrorist organizations that produced the likes of tim mcveigh and nichols? black people have been abused, discriminated against, humiliated and the whole nine and a brother is yet to have blown up a federal building by placing explosives under a school nursery for kids.......so let me ask you what is your opinion of behavior like that on the part of whites?
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so Lofton, what do you think of white supremacist and terrorist organizations that produced the likes of tim mcveigh and nichols? black people have been abused, discriminated against, humiliated and the whole nine and a brother is yet to have blown up a federal building by placing explosives under a school nursery for kids.......so let me ask you what is your opinion of behavior like that on the part of whites? by Kevin41


...if anyone violates your rights then the only legal recourse would be to seek redress in the courts. If they have anything worth suing them for, then you sue them. If they don't have assets worthy of a civil lawsuit, then where necessary, you would use the court system to incarcerate and/or execute the perpetrators.

In addition, the Constitutional right to bear and use arms is sometimes necessary to protect and defend your own property rights, life, liberty, and/or pursuit of happiness, no matter who the perpetrator(s) may be, be it Black, Caucasian, Hispanic, Korean, the KKK, the Aryan Nation, the Crips, the Bloods, any rogue police officer, a trans-sexual, a woman, a man, a child molestor, the Nation of Islam, any terrorist, or for that matter the government.

....Crying about criminal activity, be it racism that causes bodily harm or otherwise, burglary, carjacking, fraud, armed robbery, etc., is useless.

....The greatest deterent to the atrocities of the KKK is not the marching of the 60s or any Martin Luther King Rally, but those very few and far between Black people who hit the KKK, where it hurts, meaning suing them for their assets.

Sincerely,

Michael Lofton
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Yet, your response doesn't condemn all, most or even a class of white folk for the actions of a few individuals. But you revel in doing so when it comes to the actions a few Black people. Don't you see a problem here? I think that this is all we (e.g., JazzDog, Kevin41, and even I) want you to recognize.

But at any rate ...

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In addition, the Constitutional right to bear and use arms is sometimes necessary to protect and defend your own property

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This is an inaccuracy. There is no consitutional right to bear arms, in the sense that you are asserting; and certainly, there is no constitutional right to use arms in the defense of property.

The Constitutional right to bear arms attaches only to those as a part of a "Standing and well regulated militia". [see the US Constitution] The 2nd amendment right of individuals to bear arms argument that you are speaking of is a fiction promoted by the NRA.

Further, in this country, even as a member of a "well regulated militia, [B]NO
person has the right to USE a firearm to protect or defend property. [Unless you are talking about just showing it and hoping that the thief/trespassor runs away.]

....The greatest deterent to the atrocities of the KKK is not the marching of the 60s or any Martin Luther King Rally, but those very few and far between Black people who hit the KKK, where it hurts, meaning suing them for their assets. by Lofton.

Another inaccuracy, logic dictates that one can't hurt a poor man by suing them. While the SPLC (among others) may have put the corporate structure of the kkk out of business through lawsuits, their terrorism continues. I'd argue that the greatest deterent to the kkk are those Black folk that shoot back. [Google: The Deacons of Defense]
"In addition, the Constitutional right to bear and use arms is sometimes necessary to protect and defend your own property rights, life, liberty, and/or pursuit of happiness, no matter who the perpetrator(s) may be, be it Black, Caucasian, Hispanic, Korean, the KKK, the Aryan Nation, the Crips, the Bloods, any rogue police officer, a trans-sexual, a woman, a man, a child molestor, the Nation of Islam, any terrorist, or for that matter the government." by Michael Lofton

These are my words, which is very different from your perception.

.........same response be it this issue, or any other!!!

"...This is an inaccuracy. There is no consitutional right to bear arms, in the sense that you are asserting; and certainly, there is no constitutional right to use arms in the defense of property." by Kweli4Real

....Constitutional or not, "the right to bear arms" to protect property is definitely being exercised. Case in point, just yesterday while upgrading a safe deposit box at the Bank of America, armed guards escorted a large deposit of money into, and from this Banking institution.

In addition, property rights cover a lot of territory. Kidnapping, taking illegal custody of, and/or hiding a family member or several family members, from another's family, would be an infringement upon living property rights!

The sentence for doing such, can mean criminal indictment, civil lawsuit in the least sentence, and bloodshed in the worst case scenario. "Blood is thicker than Water", and interferring with the filial relationship of another's family is serious business.

...but here again, rules, property rights, Constitutional Rights, human rights, filial relationships, being ethical, obeying the law, being respectful for the rights of other Black people, have very little meaning in the Black community. Some of the so-called university educated in the Black community take pride in interferring with another's filial relationship, solely to collect AFDC benefits.


Make no mistake, had any customer reached for, blocked access to, and/or interferred with the movement of this large Bank transaction, be it an armed or unarmed customer, any customer who interferred here, would have been maimed or killed. The court system would have protected the guards, and the guards employer. These individuals, and/or the employer would have used self-defense, and "the Constitutional right to bear arms" to protect Bank deposits, as one of several recourses to justify their actions.

Unlike your contention "The Constitutional right to bear arms" is used to protect property. This incident, which is very common, being a living proof example!

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You are absolutely nuts. THERE IS NO CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT TO BEAR ARMS IN DEFENSE OF PROPERTY. Read the document and its historical notes.

The "minutemen of Arizona" may be bearing arms to protect property and curtail illegal immigration, but they are not exercising any Constitutional right, other than maybe Freedom of Assembly and/or Free speech.

But let one of them pull a gun on a group of illegal immigrants for crossing the border, and the no doubt will be prosecuted for assault, maybe kidnapping.

One does have the right to use arms (i.e., deadly force) in defense of one's person, under specific conditions; but one never has the right to use arms (i.e., deadly force) in defense of property. That's basic/1-L criminal law. [If you'd like, I will provide case law]

But on another note, you consistently rile against the Black middle-class. If memory serves me, you claim to be Black. You also claim to be a journeyman electrician. You, therefore, would be a member of both groups you resent. How sick is that?

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