Those of us who have thoughts and opinions in opposition to the liberal Left are treated politely and with great respect. Liberals have always tolerated different views and encourage disagreement. Here are some examples of liberal tolerance......

Julian Bond, chairman of the NAACP, at a recent national convention in Houston.....

"There is a right-wing conspiracy," said Bond, " ....."They've had a collection of black hustlers and hucksters on their payrolls for more than twenty years, promoting them as the new generation of black leaders. They can't deal with the leaders we choose for ourselves, so they manufacture, promote, and hire new ones. Like ventriloquists' dummies, [these blacks] speak in their puppet-master's voice."

Consider Jesse Jackson, whose denunciations of Mr. Connerly's opposition to affirmative action degenerated into his calling Connerly a "house slave" and a "puppet of the white man." A few years ago Jackson also condemned Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas's vote to place limits on affirmative action programs, characterizing Thomas's vote as "a brutally violent act" that, "in effect, stabbed Dr. King, . . . paving the way back toward slavery." Along with fellow activist Al Sharpton, Jackson led a prayer vigil outside Thomas's home to protest the Justice's decision. Likening Thomas to a Klansman, Jackson asserted, "At night, the enemies of civil rights strike in white sheets, burning crosses. . . . By day, they strike in black robes."

Now it's one thing to disagree, and even the name calling is childish, but to go to a person's home to protest a decision??? Isn't this borderline lawlessness, disturbing the peace?? there's more.....

Carl Rowan in reference to Clarence Thomas....
"if you give Thomas a little flour on his face, you'd think you had [former Klansman] David

San Francisco mayor Willie Brown called Thomas not only "a shill for the most insidious form of racism, but also a man whose views are "legitimizing of the Ku Klux Klan." Brown added that Thomas "should be reduced to talking only to white conservatives," and "must be shut out" by the black community."

Columnist Julianne Malveaux told a television audience, "I hope [Thomas's] wife feeds him lots of eggs and butter, and he dies early, like many black men do, of heart disease.

Movie director Spike Lee calls Thomas "a handkerchief-head, chicken-and-biscuit-eating Uncle Tom."

Missouri Democrat William Clay labels Thomas and other black conservatives "Negro wanderers" whose goal is to "maim and kill other blacks for the gratification and entertainment of ultraconservative white racists." Similarly, Mr. Clay described black conservative Gary Franks - when Franks was a Connecticut congressman - as a "Negro Dr. Kevorkian, a pariah," who exhibited a "foot-shuffling, head-scratching brand of Uncle Tomism."

Former NAACP executive director Benjamin Hooks denounces black conservatives as "a new breed of Uncle Tom [and] some of the biggest liars the world ever saw."

Afrocentric historian John Henrik Clarke calls them "frustrated slaves crawling back to the plantation."

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The resentment stems from these idiots who all have prospered from the liberal policies they decry (ward connerly made millions off affirmative action set-aside contracts, which he could have refused) There are examples of this same behavior by thomas and many others. no one respects them because they come from a very hypocritical premise....If they could forgo all of the rights gained for people who look like them as the result of liberal policies, i would maybe hear them out. They are the self-subjugating negroes who would love to be back in the antebellum south at master's side, serving him mint juleps on the veranda....a sad lot indeed.
Some black people are so desperate for attention and positive reinforcement that it doesn't matter where they get it.


SALEM, Va. -- At times, the research was painful for William Holland.
Court records, family documents and visits to museums yielded evidence of slaves, the ships that carried them and the tools that restrained them.
Now, Holland's genealogical quest has taken him to a place that many blacks consider just as offensive: the Sons of Confederate Veterans.
Holland was accepted for membership in the Confederate group because his great-great-grandfather, Creed Holland, was a slave wagon driver who was forced to serve in the Confederate infantry. Two of William Holland's brothers also have signed up, a third is considering it, and a sister has applied for membership in the United Daughters of the Confederacy.
Holland called his ancestor's service -- albeit forced -- a point of immense pride.
''During the whole fiasco with the Civil War a lot of men didn't come home. It was a tough time, and to survive that and come back alive was an accomplishment,'' he said. ''Our grandfather fought with them, so there will be some respect for us and for our family.''
SCV officials say minorities are almost certainly a part of the membership in every Southern state chapter, though the exact number is unknown because applicants aren't asked their race.
''Obviously we'd like to have more black or minority members because the fact that we have minorities and welcome them deflects some of the criticism we seem to get, primarily because of the battle flag,'' said Ben C. Sewell III, who heads the 30,000-member organization.

Sons of Confederate Veteran members, from left, Ben Holland, John Wayne Holland, Robert Barbour and William Holland stand at the Hanging Rock Battlefield near Roanoke, Va. The Hollands were accepted for the membership because their great-great-grandfather, Creed Holland, was a teamster with the Confederate infantry.
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Founded in 1896 to honor the Confederate dead, the SCV has successfully fought to get the Confederate flag logo on license plates in several states. At the same time, the group's leaders have also spent considerable time maintaining that it's possible to defend the Confederacy without being a racist.
The only requirement for membership in the group is proof that a direct ancestor served ''honorably'' in the Confederate Army.
An SCV fact sheet says tens of thousands of blacks served the Confederate Army as laborers, teamsters, cooks and soldiers.
A Civil War historian, noting that there is little research on blacks in the Confederate army, said slaves were forced into service. A ''handful'' of blacks fought on the Confederate side, said Gary W. Gallagher, who holds a chair in Civil War history at the University of Virginia
''You often see these wildly inflated figures of black soldiers in the Confederate army -- 40,000, 50,000, 60,000 -- the implication being that they carried muskets and fought, and that is simply not true,'' Gallagher said.
''The overwhelming majority of black Confederate soldiers -- and you can put that in quotation marks -- didn't want to be there but were made to be there,'' he said.
For many blacks today, the notion of joining a group honoring the Confederacy that enslaved their ancestors is incomprehensible.
''I can't even fathom why they would want to be a part of this,'' said Milton Reid, who founded the Virginia chapter of the Southern Christian Leadership Conference. ''I think there are some things we have done in the past that should die -- and this should die. I'm talking about the whole idea of the Confederacy.''
But for Holland and his brothers, joining the SCV -- and paying the $34 annual membership fee -- is a way to honor their ancestors and to better understand what motivates the group.
''I want to learn both sides of it ... and also educate others by what I might learn,'' said Holland, 33, who lives in Atlanta.
''It's hard,'' he added. ''Especially for our side. But you can't always sweep things under the carpet. At some point you just have to sit down and talk about it. That's the best way you can resolve issues, period.''
Holland's curiosity was aroused years ago by the stories his father, Sam Holland Sr., told about growing up in segregated Virginia.
He knew that his great-great grandfather had been a slave on a Franklin County plantation owned by descendants of Thomas Johnson Holland, who bought the 732 acres of land in 1850.
While leafing through Franklin County's court records, William Holland discovered Creed Holland's marriage license from 1868. His research eventually led him to Hazel Holland Davis, whose family owned Creed Holland and who still lives in the family home. She also was researching her ancestors and had unearthed a list of slaves who had received Confederate pensions. Creed Holland was among them.
Last month, Davis mentioned Creed Holland's service record to Robert W. ''Red'' Barbour, the SCV's former state commander. Barbour knew John Wayne Holland and invited him to join the Sons of Confederate Veterans.
''I felt honored,'' John Holland, 47, said. ''It's a good education to be able to get along with people from all walks of life. And history is history, so you go back in time and learn things.''
William followed soon after, and a few weeks later, 37-year-old Ben Holland signed the SCV membership papers under Barbour's satisfied gaze.
The brothers said they were surprised to learn their grandfather had served in the Confederate Army. They said they had never been taught about the role of slaves or free blacks in the Civil War.
''A lot of people don't want to learn about it,'' said Ben Holland, a maintenance supervisor for the American Red Cross in Roanoke. ''But you've got to relive history. How are you going to outline your future if you don't know about your past?''
He doesn't find the Confederate flag offensive. Many of his school friends displayed it on their cars and outside their homes.
''It wasn't no big deal. It wasn't no racist deal. It's heritage,'' Ben Holland said. ''A lot of people say that's hatred. No, it's not; it's heritage.''
So far, the brothers say they haven't been criticized for joining the SCV.
''It's their constitutional right and their heritage and they shouldn't be harassed,'' Barbour said. ''And the harassment is going to come from their side, not ours.''
William Holland said he eventually hopes to turn his research into a book or documentary about the friendship between the black Hollands and the white Hollands. He also plans to take his genealogical quest to his ancestors' home tribe, the Ibo farming community in Nigeria.
''People think you're a descendant of a slave,'' he said. ''But who were you before that?''

Published in the Athens Banner-Herald on Sunday, July 14, 2002.
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Originally posted by Ebony Rose.

Well, B Bankins,

I say if the racist, black-stabbing shoe fits, what's wrong with putting it on them and making them wear it!

I'll tell you whats wrong with it. It shows your side to be a bunch of spineless cowards with a wolfpack mentality. Think about it. If liberals ideas are so righteous and true, why not discredit black conservatives with the forcefullness of those ideas, instead of childish, 3rd grade invidious name calling and unprovoked character assassinations bordering on slander?

I think both the black leadership and white liberals pundits could take a lesson from our own Mr. MBM, who is far more tactful and gracious and doesn't feel threatened by ideas different than his own.

Sure enough, dueling personalities can get into heated discussions, but please name just one (1) time any of the conservative crew or myself ever resorted to this type of personal degradation on a fellow poster?? You can be assured you will never read such insults under the name of B Bankins.

Are the so-called black leaders "leading", or are they just rabble rousing?

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What I find interesting is that the media is now reporting that the current generation of young blacks are now questioning the current older generation of black leaders. This doesn't mean that the conservatives are gaining new blacks into their numbers but considering some of the things that have been say about black conservatives, one does wonder how the current black leadership is going to handle the growing disillusion with their leadership by the younger generation.

I would hope that name calling and demonizing them will not be part of their effort to reach out to them.

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