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Worrying about??? You should not worry about it, you should DATE OUT!!! You should raise your black sons to LOVE THEMSELVES!!! BLACK MEN ARE NOT 60% MORE LIKELY TO BE WITH WHITE WOMEN BECAUSE WHITE WOMEN ARE BETTER. Just take a look at the white women they CHOOSE!! Many of these men are with white women due to self hatred!!!! The black woman is their reflection. A reflection they can't escape, but fool themselves into thinking a white or light trophy will... GET a clue ladies!! GEt a clue.. When you see bm with wm... feel sorry for her... he is trash at her feet!! I should know. Eek
[QUOTE]Originally posted by thelawofMAAT:
at the hands of sexism?

If so, why do you believe this is true? If not then why don't you believe it's true?

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Hi LawofMaat, yes I believe that's true that's why I'm an advocator for black girls and women not showing anger when they see bm/ww out on the streets. If anything, they should go up and give the white girl a 'big hug' for taking that mess out of our community.

Most black girls and women don't want that trash anyway. To show ire at colored boys who date the white gals is to give them ammunition to use against black girls and women.

Albeit, I do think we should clarify our disposition with regard to black males/white gals dating.

I wrote on this issue with regard to Kobe Bryant's stupidity as well as with regard to Judgment in the house of the black. Check it out:

https://www.africanamerica.org/groupee/forums?a=tpc&s=60260642&f=40070883&m=12770558

https://www.africanamerica.org/groupee/forums?a=tpc&s=60260642&f=40070883&m=80970158
Statistics put Ray in the majority......A black man is 60 per cent more likely to have a relationship with a white woman. Historians may point to the legacy of slavery which gave greater desirability to women with a lighter skin tone.


??WHITE GIRLS ARE EASY???
Writer – Tony Snow

Do white women really deserve the reputation of being labeled easy? Does the same notion really do justice to the complexity of black masculinity and interracial relationships? And where does this leave black women who by this reasoning, are paying the price in being ignored by black men for being seen as too self-reliant – read hard.

Publisher and broadcaster, Dotun Adebayo who presents White Girls Are Easy discovers that this way of thinking seems popular among black men. Most white heterosexual men are likely to dismiss the notion outright.

'Ray', a black man, who has reached his mid 30s without ever dating a black woman, offers some insight into the debate. His theory is that white women are not necessarily easy, just easier than black women.

His take on the issue is not uncommon because like many black men, he has capitalised on the notions that eternally surround black masculinity – such as virility and being well equipped. Indeed Ray's courting ritual is exclusively based around and dependent on it.

While out clubbing he embarks on a series of stage-managed moves once he has a girl in his sights.He usually begins with a grand entrance; a slick move on the dance floor to grab the attention. Then in deliberately unsubtle fashion will sidle up to the target and his ice-breaker consists of grinding his hips in close proximity as she looks adoringly on.

His technique, which is based entirely on the brazen confidence he exudes, proves highly successful with white women. The thought of trying a similar technique on black women sends shivers down his spine. "It's not that I don't like black women" he points out. "It is just that I have always assumed that black women would never be impressed by that sort of thing. They may think ' yeah you're a good dancer - so what?' I never had the nerve to risk it."

Ray suspects that this fear has been brought about by the prevailing nature of black women. "They tend to come across as very inhibited and more concerned about how they will be perceived." For Ray flirting and acting sexually provocatively is "all part of the game", but he feels black women are reluctant to adopt this role. However he firmly believes that if he could crack this outer layer, then there is a soft centre, but he admits that he has never developed the weaponry to chisel away at this 'case hardened shell'.

Statistics put Ray in the majority. A black man is 60 per cent more likely to have a relationship with a white woman. Historians may point to the legacy of slavery which gave greater desirability to women with a lighter skin tone.

For white women inter-racial dating still remains a novelty. There are approximately half a million black men in Britain, but over 25 million white women. Perhaps some white women that opt for black partners do so out of curiosity and to experience first hand if the prevailing myths around black manhood are true. In order to find a black partner, such women may make themselves more available than to white suitors, thus reinforcing the reputation that they are easy game. Some white women may be drawn to black men because of their confidence and ability to assert their masculinity to a greater degree than many white men.

But love does not discriminate. If two individuals find a connection, race and culture are immaterial. Adults in their 20s and 30s, possess fewer taboos about inter-racial dating and than their parents did in the 1960s. A hybrid culture has emerged as a result of 50 years of multiculturalism from which younger generations from all races can tap into. However where cultural differences due to religion and language remain more apparent, as in the case of British Asians, there is less inter-racial dating.

There is now a further twist with the emergence of a 'new breed' of white woman who date black men. She is the independent go-getter, who is strong willed and takes control of her own life and relationships in much the same manner that black women have been doing for years.

Was the resilience and independent spirit of black women the catalyst for the failure of black men to sustain relationships with them? If that was the case, who will black men turn to, now that white women have cultivated similar traits?

Will black men finally move into the 21st century and learn that in modern relationships control must be shared? Or will they simply move on to the next unsuspecting racial group?

Black women are no longer waiting for Black men to decide. It is apparent that they now are the next big movers into the inter-racial arena. The traditional conventions surrounding dating have been blown out of the water, and quite literally, everyone is up for grabs these days.
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Originally posted by GinaMarni:
Statistics put Ray in the majority......A black man is 60 per cent more likely to have a relationship with a white woman. Historians may point to the legacy of slavery which gave greater desirability to women with a lighter skin tone.


??WHITE GIRLS ARE EASY???
Writer – Tony Snow

Do white women really deserve the reputation of being labeled easy? Does the same notion really do justice to the complexity of black masculinity and interracial relationships? And where does this leave black women who by this reasoning, are paying the price in being ignored by black men for being seen as too self-reliant – read hard.

Publisher and broadcaster, Dotun Adebayo who presents White Girls Are Easy discovers that this way of thinking seems popular among black men. Most white heterosexual men are likely to dismiss the notion outright.

'Ray', a black man, who has reached his mid 30s without ever dating a black woman, offers some insight into the debate. His theory is that white women are not necessarily easy, just easier than black women.

His take on the issue is not uncommon because like many black men, he has capitalised on the notions that eternally surround black masculinity – such as virility and being well equipped. Indeed Ray's courting ritual is exclusively based around and dependent on it.

While out clubbing he embarks on a series of stage-managed moves once he has a girl in his sights.He usually begins with a grand entrance; a slick move on the dance floor to grab the attention. Then in deliberately unsubtle fashion will sidle up to the target and his ice-breaker consists of grinding his hips in close proximity as she looks adoringly on.

His technique, which is based entirely on the brazen confidence he exudes, proves highly successful with white women. The thought of trying a similar technique on black women sends shivers down his spine. "It's not that I don't like black women" he points out. "It is just that I have always assumed that black women would never be impressed by that sort of thing. They may think ' yeah you're a good dancer - so what?' I never had the nerve to risk it."

Ray suspects that this fear has been brought about by the prevailing nature of black women. "They tend to come across as very inhibited and more concerned about how they will be perceived." For Ray flirting and acting sexually provocatively is "all part of the game", but he feels black women are reluctant to adopt this role. However he firmly believes that if he could crack this outer layer, then there is a soft centre, but he admits that he has never developed the weaponry to chisel away at this 'case hardened shell'.

Statistics put Ray in the majority. A black man is 60 per cent more likely to have a relationship with a white woman. Historians may point to the legacy of slavery which gave greater desirability to women with a lighter skin tone.

For white women inter-racial dating still remains a novelty. There are approximately half a million black men in Britain, but over 25 million white women. Perhaps some white women that opt for black partners do so out of curiosity and to experience first hand if the prevailing myths around black manhood are true. In order to find a black partner, such women may make themselves more available than to white suitors, thus reinforcing the reputation that they are easy game. Some white women may be drawn to black men because of their confidence and ability to assert their masculinity to a greater degree than many white men.

But love does not discriminate. If two individuals find a connection, race and culture are immaterial. Adults in their 20s and 30s, possess fewer taboos about inter-racial dating and than their parents did in the 1960s. A hybrid culture has emerged as a result of 50 years of multiculturalism from which younger generations from all races can tap into. However where cultural differences due to religion and language remain more apparent, as in the case of British Asians, there is less inter-racial dating.

There is now a further twist with the emergence of a 'new breed' of white woman who date black men. She is the independent go-getter, who is strong willed and takes control of her own life and relationships in much the same manner that black women have been doing for years.

Was the resilience and independent spirit of black women the catalyst for the failure of black men to sustain relationships with them? If that was the case, who will black men turn to, now that white women have cultivated similar traits?

Will black men finally move into the 21st century and learn that in modern relationships control must be shared? Or will they simply move on to the next unsuspecting racial group?

Black women are no longer waiting for Black men to decide. It is apparent that they now are the next big movers into the inter-racial arena. The traditional conventions surrounding dating have been blown out of the water, and quite literally, everyone is up for grabs these days.


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Gina Bravo right back at ya. Sensible black women where have you and lawofMaat been? Whew!
Let me say this, the article is right on the money. The obvious quirk in the head of those males who date the white girl is a none issue to black women overall. However, our daughters do inquire as to why 'so many prominent males of color date outside their race, once they become successful.' We also know, the white racist media uses the IR dating issue as a weapon against black women so we are forced to deal with the issue.

This 'Ray' mindset as spoken in the well-written article is a repulsive insult to black women in that his ideas show he is not cognizant of the world in which we live. That is, the white fiend wants to keep blacks underfoot. Now, we black women looking in can't help but be disgusted with one who 'wiggles his hips' and thinks that is something that will impress black women.

What impresses intelligent black women of truth is a black man who is aware that he lives in a white racist world, and fights to keep white racist rule off of blacks. Whereas, the white girl for kicks just wants to see if the 'myth' is true. Her white males run the U.S. and for that matter the resources of Africa, so she doesn't have an agenda to uplift the black to independent status. Well that's par for the course, but what is worse is, he doesn't see himself as a man, so how in the world does he expect black women to see him?

He is a dancing buc out to score, and that can't help but repel black women who are usually the ones wearing out our weary feet 'marching at the protests' when the cops beat the hell out of black males. We are the ones who in times past were jailed, lynched, beaten so blacks could have freedom. Yet, we are the ones, that ilk has the gall to go before the white world media and proclaim, 'I prefer the white female fiend type who enslaved my ancestors over black women who fought to end enslavement, segregation and discrimination.' That is nothing more than 'trampling the blood' of the black women who fought and died for blacks. May God avenge black women.

That same ilk proclaims black women, 'hard and bitter' well there very lifeforce is the bitter pill that makes us 'hard and determined' to make it in spite of these manless males.

If we black women of truth do not unite and fight these defeated, batch of blind, deaf and dumb colored boy mongrels they will keep us underfoot to white fiend rule, ever grinning in the face of a white girl.

If it weren't for the fact that their actions affect the overall political, social, economic, etc., factors with regard to black women, girls, and the few righteous black men, then you wouldn't hear a peep out of black women. Truly, we'd have the 'big grin' on our faces, ever running up to a white girl with such colored ilk giving her a great big hug of thanks for taking that mess off of our hands. Amen? Wink

[This message was edited by Prophetessofrage on December 13, 2003 at 12:35 PM.]
"In these bloody days and frightful nights when an urban warrior can find no face more despicable than his own, no ammunition more deadly than self-hate, and no target more deserving of his aim than his brother, we must wonder how we came so late and lonely to this place"

-- Maya Angelou

Internalized racism is an aspect of racism seldom addressed, but an aspect that is very real and that has tremendous consequences for persons of color and marginalized persons in this country. Although I think that this aspect of racism affects all persons of color, as an African-American I'm going to limit my comments to the African-American experience.

I would define internalized racism as the conscious and subconscious incorporation and acceptance of all the negative stereotypes and images from media, folklore, accounts of history, and so forth, that define persons of color, and especially African-Americans, as inferior.
GinaMarni, are you purposefully contradicting yourself? On one had you are claiming Black men that date white women suffer from self hatred and need to be taught to love their black selves, something I agree with 100%.; However you are also telling Black women to do as the Negro men are doing and date white men. How do you reconcile these two view points? Are you working from the assumption that the Black women that are currently doing it now don't suffer from the same self hatred these Black men that are doing does? Secondly, how will telling Black women to "date out" help the self hatred that is pervasive in these Black men you are speaking about.

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"We got to organize ourselves, We got to mobilize and there can't be no confusion in our collective solution, If not for ourselves, then for our kids, because we know who our enemy is!"

DPZ "for the hood"

More to come later!

Your Brother Faheem
>>>>GinaMarni, are you purposefully contradicting yourself? On one had you are claiming Black men that date white women suffer from self hatred and need to be taught to love their black selves, something I agree with 100%.; However you are also telling Black women to do as the Negro men are doing and date white men.>>>>>>

Ummmm, no..I am not contradicting myself. READ it more slowly!! That may help you.

>>>>>> How do you reconcile these two view points? Are you working from the assumption that the Black women that are currently doing it now don't suffer from the same self hatred these Black men that are doing does?>>>>>>>

Well, lol...considering it HAS NOT been black women dating out since the 1960's in MASSIVE DROVES...considering the stats DO NOT show that black WOMEN ARE 60% more likely to be with a white man... considering many conversations with black men that confuse me for OTHER AND they begin on their tirade of their entire female race.. lol.... LET'S MAKE THIS CLEAR....MANY BLACK MEN DATE WHITE WOMEN BECAUSE THEY ARE WHITE, THE MAJORITY, THE VAST MAJORITY OF BLACK WOMEN WITH WHITE MEN DO IT IN SPITE OF THEIR RACE. BIG DIFF BUDDY. I HAVE YET TO MEET THE MULTITUDE OF BLACK WOMEN THAT SAY THEY DON'T DATE OR LIKE BLACK MEN. AND YOU KNOW THAT TO BE TRUE. HOWEVER, I CANN0T SAY THE SAME FOR BLACK MEN. MAKES YOU WANNA VOMIT HUH????

>>>>> Secondly, how will telling Black women to "date out" help the self hatred that is pervasive in these Black men you are speaking about.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

WELL MR. TERRITORIAL BLACK MAN....Recommending that black women date out would be a NECESSITY even if SOOOOOOOO MANY black men were not in "heat" of white or close to white. The reason being is simple mathematics... Can you do math?? 5 black men for every 10 black women... lol... you wanna break down those 5 black men... 1 out of the 5 is GAY, 1 is in jail, 1 is on his way to jail, 1 will ONLY date white or light... and DAYUMMMM, that only leaves 1... and HE BETTER BE A BLACK WOMAN'S TYPE... JUST LOOK AROUND AT YOUR WORLD... GO TO CALI, YOU SEE A BLACK MAN IN A CAR WITH A BLACK WOMAN AND YOU WANNA DRIVE OFF THE ROAD TIL YOU REALIZE IT'S PROBABLY HIS MOMMA OR HIS SISTER.. LOL
Understood GinaMarni, I mistook your stance as one of wanting to rebuild the Black family, which includes teaching those Black men who hate themselves to love their Black selves and Black women. However, you don't care about Black folk abandoning the Black family you have a problem with the Black men who do this out of hatred for themselves and Black people, thus those who do it for other reasons are fine with you.

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"We got to organize ourselves, We got to mobilize and there can't be no confusion in our collective solution, If not for ourselves, then for our kids, because we know who our enemy is!"

DPZ "for the hood"

More to come later!

Your Brother Faheem
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Originally posted by Faheem:
Understood GinaMarni, I mistook your stance as one of wanting to rebuild the Black family, which includes teaching those Black men who hate themselves to love their Black selves and Black women. However, you don't care about Black folk abandoning the Black family you have a problem with the Black men who do this out of hatred for themselves and Black people, thus those who do it for other reasons are fine with you.



lol, yeah, that is EXACTLY what I said.. okkkkay. Changing the subject is not an effective way to prove your point.
Gina Marni, I hope that's a California thing, because I've seen good-looking white women with black men, and although it's rare, I had to give the man credit.

I should add that the Tony Snow article has some validity, since I've come to notice that some independent black, white, Asian and Latina women happen to date or be attracted to a certain type of black male: the thug.

Although he's considered the most frightening of all black males, for some reason the thug/roughneck type has somehow became the urbanized alpha male in the AA community. Rappers and R & B singers (currently) are seriously milking this role to get women so badly, that some of today's love songs are now called "thug ballads."
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Originally posted by Knowledgeseeker:
I wonder sometimes if black women really wanted to be like white women? I mean if you look at most of our sistas, you have to wonder, what in the hell are you trying to prove?, reminds me of this brother out now call Jamar, he called these types of sistas , "the daughters of willie Lynch"

"I AM BECAUSE WE ARE"


I think you better worry more about black men that leave their sons than a black woman that wants her hair to be more MANAGEABLE.. DON'T YOU HAVE A TICKET TO AFRICA... BYE!!!
>>>>>>Gina Marni, I hope that's a California thing, because I've seen good-looking white women with black men, and although it's rare, I had to give the man credit.

I should add that the Tony Snow article has some validity, since I've come to notice that some independent black, white, Asian and Latina women happen to date or be attracted to a certain type of black male: the thug. >>>>>

lol, IMPROVE YOUR SOCIAL CIRCLES... THOSE AREN'T THE BLACK WOMEN THAT I KNOW... LOL
Let's see what others have to say.. makes you go hmmmm???

Replied by Unregistered User on 8/26/2003 11:27:00 AM CLICK HERE TO REPLY!

As I read these posts I see so much disloyality and yes contempt coming from the brothers who are turning their back on the sisters for other races of women and I can feel the resentment, anger and total betrayal of the sisters. Black men you are losing a precious gem by disassociating yourself from the black woman especially for a woman who's world will never really accept you. And what's worse for you is that by your stumping you the loyality of the black woman, you (because know on else could) are driving her into the arms of other men. Men who can do much more than you can for her. Men who are better recognized in this country and in the world that you. Once your precious dark gueens have gone to these men do you honestly believe that she will ever think twice about going back to you. Black men would have lose their best friend but also the only ones who have been loyal to them and who have stood by them in the worst of times. You don't know what you have lost until it's gone.
Replied by Unregistered User on 8/19/2003 11:29:00 AM CLICK HERE TO REPLY!

I must agree the black men who run after white women (that's about 95%) I are usually a waste of time for black women. How can they love, respect and be the man for black women, when they aren't that for themselves? It isn't our fault black men have this f%#ked up attitude so we owe it to ourselves to be individuals seek love in other races. I find it amusing when I come across a white girl with black a guy and she has this smug look on her face as though she has won over a great prize from black women. I just smile because I don't see what the average black man has to offer her ???!!
Replied by Unregistered User on 8/18/2003 11:41:00 AM CLICK HERE TO REPLY!

How true the last sista's statement is. Though there are still a few good black men out here, most of the brothers have the wrong attitude when it comes to black women and especially dark skinned black women. No other group of men in U.S history have been so discriminated against and hated than the black man, yet these same black men who knows what it is to suffer for one's color, in their true to life monkey see, monkey do fashion, inflict this racism on who else than their only supporter which is the black women! I have lost the desire for black men and is rapidly losing respect for them. Even things that crawl on all fours doesn't treat their females with as much contempt as most black men do.
Black women remember the good black men who was a positive influence in our life but also realize that they are few. Most black men are scum especially when it comes dark or even fair skinned black women so start letting go the old theory that you should only be with a black man or others of men will not want you or treat better because that is totally false because I have been dating nonblack men exclusively for 6 years and I am now involved with a white man who treats me very well, though we still get disapproving looks from prejudice people at time. We don't care because our relationship is our own business and we don't let outsiders or family members interfere. So sistas think about what is best for yourself and who will appreciate you more, don't let other people say that you have to have a black man.

Replied by Unregistered User on 8/17/2003 11:42:00 AM CLICK HERE TO REPLY!

I am so very proud of blackwomen who have come to their senses about the prejudices of blackmen. I began to date white men at the age of 19; got married at 23 and my interracial family of 4 have been very happy for over 15 years. Becoming FED UP with being looked down upon because of my dark skin eventually led me to true love. Blackmen will have to someday pay for their cruelty because they are wrong in GOD'S eyes. And sadly their 'prefered' mates will have to suffer right along with them. IT HAS ALREADY BEGUN.
Replied by Unregistered User on 8/13/2003 9:51:00 PM CLICK HERE TO REPLY!

THE BROTHER WHO WENT ON THE DATE IS SUFFERING FROM THE DARK SKIN DISEASE. THATS THAT DISEASE YOU GET WHEN YOU COMPARE YOURSELF WITH THE OTHER PERSON WHO IS DARK SKIN ALSO AND YOU START IMAGINING WHAT YOUR KIDS WILL LOOK LIKE AND THATS WHAT HAPPEN TO HIM. HE COULD NOT HANDLE THAT, AND IT FREAKED HIM OUT. HE SHOULD OF TOLD YOU THAT TOO MUCH DARK SKIN CAUSES HIM TO HAVE SOME SORT OF A REACTION, LIKE NOT PAYING FOR THE MEAL AFTER THE DATE. HE WAS STUPID. SEE SELF HATE. TELL YOUR FRIEND THAT IT WAS HIS LOST NOT HERS. ;Smile
Replied by Unregistered User on 8/13/2003 9:54:00 AM CLICK HERE TO REPLY!

Though I am of light to medium complexion, through some of my dark skin relatives and friends, I can relate to how it feels for some igorant, light skin obcessed negro to reject or make fun of a dark skin women. Usually it is the very dark black men out here who is doing this. Truely a form of self-hatred. I setup this professional, very pretty dark skin friend with this jet black brotha who is know to be friendly and generous. After the date she told me that he acted cold and after they had finish dinner he told the waitress to put the bill on seperate check. I asked him what went wrong and he replied that she was just too black for him to be seen with! I told him to look in the mirror!!!!!!!


Replied by Unregistered User on 8/12/2003 4:09:00 PM CLICK HERE TO REPLY!

Too the dark- skinned female who is disrespected by self-hating black men. There other races of men who will worship your dark chocolate skin and appreciate your uniqueness. You should expand you options of finding a man who will treat well by dating white men and forgetting all about black guys. I have dating interacially for 6 years and have gotten treated much better by white men,I would never go back to the arms of a black man.
Replied by Unregistered User on 8/12/2003 1:46:00 PM CLICK HERE TO REPLY!

IM FED UP......BUT I MOVED ON LOOOONG TIME AGO. I QUIT WAITING AROUND FOR THEM NO GOOD, BROKE!!..... ASS-HOLES. I FOUND ME A REAL GENTLEMAN CARES FOR ME OH SOOOOO MUCH. AND HE HAPPENS TO BE WHITE. I AM SOOOO HAPPY US SISTAS ARE NOTICING THIS AND ARE MOVING ON. THANK U GOD. THANKS. U KNOW WHAT ME AND MY WHITE MAN LAUGHS ABOUT EVERY NIGHT, THE WAY THESE BROTHERS GET THERE DRAWS IN A KNOT WHEN THEY SEE US SISTAS WITH A NON-BLACK MAN. AND THEY'VE BEEN DOING SINCE GOD KNOWS WHEN. WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN 5-10 YEARS OR LESS FROM NOW WHEN WE REALLY GET INTO THIS NEW TREND........WHAT THEY GONNA DO, WAIT IN THE GARAGE OF OUR HOMES TO SHOOT OUR NON-BLACK MEN....LOL
Replied by Unregistered User on 8/8/2003 3:23:00 PM CLICK HERE TO REPLY!

I am so tired of these rude, inconsiderate, brothers out here. I am a dark skinned female and I've always had negative experiences with black men.They disrespect dark skinned girls all the time, but suddenly they've got manners when they're dealing with females of another race or light skin girls. THAT'S WHY I NEED TO FIND ME A WHITE MAN !
Replied by Unregistered User on 8/2/2003 8:41:00 PM CLICK HERE TO REPLY!

YES!;....BLACKMEN, Thankyou for being with SO MANY non-black women. Let THEM put up with your crap. Now the WORLD is seeing you for what you REALLY ARE. Examples: K-O-B-E!!!; fatherless mixed babies all over the place; disgraced white women; etc.,etc.,etc. What you have chosen to do with your hard fought freedoms is SHAMEFULL!.....BLACKWOMEN, PLEASE OPEN YOUR HEARTS AND GIVE MEN OF OTHER RACES A CHANCE. White men are sick of loose white women; they call them HORNY SNAKES.(Only the racists ones still want them and we all know what that is about).

Replied by Unregistered User on 7/6/2003 11:05:00 PM CLICK HERE TO REPLY!

Well if yall so fed up with us BSin,gamin brothas, why are you even postin onthis board,where you KNOW we gonna be too?? Go on, keep steppin to ya lil lesbo site. Like we need ya loudass sharkmouths anyway...lol
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Originally posted by Knowledgeseeker:
actually i will be going to africa, as a matter of fact we have a school for orphans in Senegal right now? how about you my sista? what are you doing for your people?

"I AM BECAUSE WE ARE"


A man who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself.

John Stuart Mill

What I say is you GOT alot of problems right here at home oh CRUSADER.. lol
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Originally posted by Knowledgeseeker:
I wonder sometimes if black women really wanted to be like white women? I mean if you look at most of our sistas, you have to wonder, what in the hell are you trying to prove?, reminds me of this brother out now call Jamar, he called these types of sistas , "the daughters of willie Lynch"
"I AM BECAUSE WE ARE"


The willie lynch letters are fakes, first of all. Second of all, nothing in them is anything new.

But You guys keep referring to this whole slave/master relationship like you really believe sisters are gonna be on their knees getting the shit knocked out of them by white men if they don't stay with the brothers (LOL). I'm sure the image is enough to get you worked up, but as long as we are talking about the real world here, AND WE ARE, exactly how many sisters as myself and mseis....do you think would really put up with that shit? We don't seem to be afraid of you.

And why is it that the ONLY time anyone thinks to invoke the oppression of slavery is when its about black women and white men, and NEVER when its about black men running off with whoever they can catch?

Another question: If white men are "evil" because of slavery, does that mean Asian guys are fair game? What about Mexicans? Samoans? What horrible doom and gloom earth shattering disaster can you predict if black chicks start dating Samoans?

written by DJONA!!!!!
I want to know is when does a dark shade of black skin makes one less than a person in 2003-4?

And if 95% of black men are chasing white women, then who are marrying/dating black women today? I think you got it in reverse. 95% of black men marry black women, and 5% marry interracially. Celebrities and pro athletes a very small percentage of the U.S. black population.
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Originally posted by GinaMarni:
>>>>>>Gina Marni, I hope that's a California thing, because I've seen good-looking white women with black men, and although it's rare, I had to give the man credit.

I should add that the Tony Snow article has some validity, since I've come to notice that some independent black, white, Asian and Latina women happen to date or be attracted to a certain type of black male: the thug. >>>>>

lol, IMPROVE YOUR SOCIAL CIRCLES... THOSE AREN'T THE BLACK WOMEN THAT I KNOW... LOL


Improve? Improve your social skills, Gina. You were the one who brought the article here in the first place. But Faheem does give a good point. Why is it (according to YOU) when a bm dates interracially, it's self-hate, but if a bw dates interracially, it's nothing but lack of bm and not self-hate at all?

Now I've said that some women like thugs b/c in the psyche of those women, the thugs are a form of the alpha male, albeit a twisted example of alpha male, but nevertheless an example.
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Originally posted by Knowledgeseeker:
I wonder sometimes if black women really wanted to be like white women? I mean if you look at most of our sistas, you have to wonder, what in the hell are you trying to prove?, reminds me of this brother out now call Jamar, he called these types of sistas , "the daughters of willie Lynch"

"I AM BECAUSE WE ARE"


sEEKER,
could you elaborate on this notion of "black women wanting to be like white women"? I would like to respond, but a little clarification would be helpful.
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Originally posted by GinaMarni:
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Originally posted by Knowledgeseeker:
I wonder sometimes if black women really wanted to be like white women? I mean if you look at most of our sistas, you have to wonder, what in the hell are you trying to prove?, reminds me of this brother out now call Jamar, he called these types of sistas , "the daughters of willie Lynch"
"I AM BECAUSE WE ARE"


The willie lynch letters are fakes, first of all. Second of all, nothing in them is anything new.

But You guys keep referring to this whole slave/master relationship like you really believe sisters are gonna be on their knees getting the shit knocked out of them by white men if they don't stay with the brothers (LOL). I'm sure the image is enough to get you worked up, but as long as we are talking about the real world here, AND WE ARE, exactly how many sisters as myself and mseis....do you think would really put up with that shit? We don't seem to be afraid of you.

And why is it that the ONLY time anyone thinks to invoke the oppression of slavery is when its about black women and white men, and NEVER when its about black men running off with whoever they can catch?

Another question: If white men are "evil" because of slavery, does that mean Asian guys are fair game? What about Mexicans? Samoans? What horrible doom and gloom earth shattering disaster can you predict if black chicks start dating Samoans?

written by DJONA!!!!!


Smile. Hey girl.
i've no problem with a sister dating (or marrying) a non-afro, but just cut with the "acting white" (reference www.racetraitor.org ) effect of your choice. the attitude that oftentimes follows from such a decision seems to be one of absolute contempt for afro-american men, something i find utterly revolting.

"There are two ways of exerting one's strength: one is pushing down, the other is pulling up."
~ Booker T Washington
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Originally posted by Knowledgeseeker:
actually i will be going to africa, as a matter of fact we have a school for orphans in Senegal right now? how about you my sista? what are you doing for your people?

"I AM BECAUSE WE ARE"


That's good Knowledgeseeker, flood those Africans with truth because GM is right on this level they are as Willie Lynched and hostile to blacks via being white bred in lies and deceits.

Also, speak vehemently against male violence on African women as they are guilty for shedding black female blood in the same way the white fiend has shed black's blood worldwide.

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