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Did this Malvo put his gun sights on innocent black people and pull the trigger? If he did then Yep. Hang him. Black people should learn to behave like Jews who are extremely reluctant to hurt ot take another Jew's life, until we learn to properly appreciate and value each other as black people then hang all wolves masquerading as brothers

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Frown Respectfully, my dear cyber friend JuneBug my vote would still be no. As, I have experienced the tragedy of a loved one shot callously in the head at point blank range by a 17 year old. My family and I did not consider nor discuss the death penalty. Since it was a black on black crime he probably would not have gotten it anyway.

So, if Malvo does get the death penalty. I'd be willing to bet his having killed non-blacks plays a vital role in the decision.

As horrific as the crimes were. I still would hate to see this young man die.
I can appreciate your view and would not oppose law that would stop capital punishment.

BC I know it is applied unfairly. As for Malvo, I really think he deserves to die.

In your opinion what would merit a death penalty?

Why the Green River killer not get the death penalty and he killed at least 30 women. So that is the problem, white guy kills 30 people no death penalty, black guy kills 1, death penalty. I know it's not that simple but there is a long track record of uneven justice.

The truth will set you free, but first it will piss you off.
Until this nation proves that the justice system is not plagued with abuse and racism, I will continue to oppose the death penalty regardless of the crime. My vote is a definite NO!

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"We got to organize ourselves, We got to mobilize and there can't be no confusion in our collective solution, If not for ourselves, then for our kids, because we know who our enemy is!"

DPZ "for the hood"

More to come later!

Your Brother Faheem
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Originally posted by Faheem:
Until this nation proves that the justice system is not plagued with abuse and racism, I will continue to oppose the death penalty regardless of the crime. My vote is a definite NO!

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"We got to organize ourselves, We got to mobilize and there can't be no confusion in our collective solution, If not for ourselves, then for our kids, because we know who our enemy is!"

DPZ "for the hood"

More to come later!

Your Brother Faheem


yeah, right. Roll Eyes toast him!

"There are two ways of exerting one's strength: one is pushing down, the other is pulling up."
~ Booker T Washington
Faheem brings up a good point. The issues are separate. One issue is the confidence in and accuracy of the justice system. The other is the moral question regarding the death penalty. They are often confused and meshed. To fear the justice system for its inaccuracies or inefficiencies is not the same as opposing the death penalty on moral grounds. One requires reformation, while one requires soul-searching.
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Originally posted by sergeant:

you first mbm, what do YOU think?



quote:
Originally posted by Faheem:

Until this nation proves that the justice system is not plagued with abuse and racism, I will continue to oppose the death penalty regardless of the crime. My vote is a definite NO!



What he said! brosmile

Beyond the practical questions of the DP though, I think it hypocritical for man to say it is wrong to take life, and then proceed to do so itself under the guise of the death penalty. Either it's wrong, or it's not.


There is no passion to be found playing small, in settling for a life
that is less than the one you are capable of living. - Mandela
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Originally posted by sergeant:
Faheem brings up a good point. The issues are separate. One issue is the confidence in and accuracy of the justice system. The other is the moral question regarding the death penalty. They are often confused and meshed. To fear the justice system for its inaccuracies or inefficiencies is not the same as opposing the death penalty on moral grounds. One requires reformation, while one requires soul-searching.


laurence tribe: it's you! argue may this lowlife find solace in hell.

"There are two ways of exerting one's strength: one is pushing down, the other is pulling up."
~ Booker T Washington
The actual dilemma for humanity is whether killing those guilty of doing evil is equivalent to killing those innocent of evil. Most cultures throughout the world do not believe they are equivalent.

Man kills to survive as well, as in acquiring food. We are all killers if we eat, but are we all evil for doing so? Killing is as natural as nature itself obviously.
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Originally posted by sergeant:

The actual dilemma for humanity is whether killing those guilty of doing evil is equivalent to killing those innocent of evil. Most cultures throughout the world do not believe they are equivalent.



Most cultures/countries do not currently believe in, or enforce, the DP.


There is no passion to be found playing small, in settling for a life
that is less than the one you are capable of living. - Mandela
For those that believe he should be executed, how does the fact that he was a minor when the crimes were committed impact your thinking? Further, do you believe that he was influenced to commit these crimes by Muhammad? Does that relationship, and the influence that John had on Lee, at all mitigate your feelings about punishment for Malvo?


There is no passion to be found playing small, in settling for a life
that is less than the one you are capable of living. - Mandela
quote:
Originally posted by sergeant:
The actual dilemma for humanity is whether killing those guilty of doing evil is equivalent to killing those innocent of evil. Most cultures throughout the world do not believe they are equivalent.

Man kills to survive as well, as in acquiring food. We are all killers if we eat, but are we all evil for doing so? Killing is as natural as nature itself obviously.


okay, john rawls, enough! Razz perhaps, after this punk fries, he'll taste like chicken.

"There are two ways of exerting one's strength: one is pushing down, the other is pulling up."
~ Booker T Washington
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Originally posted by MBM:
For those that believe he should be executed, how does the fact that he was a minor when the crimes were committed impact your thinking? Further, do you believe that he was influenced to commit these crimes by Muhammad? Does that relationship, and the influence that John had on Lee, at all mitigate your feelings about punishment for Malvo?


His age doesn't have an impact on my thinking at all, these thugs want to act as adults give them all that comes with it as well. As far as his relationship, there are too many positive people and factors out and about so that crap that he was influenced doesn't set with me. He made the decision so he should reap the consequences.
The only thing I regret for him and all the others that are convicted (or not) is that they will tie up the system; I say 30 days and pull the switch.
Before I am skewered for my last comment, there are situations where a person should not be given 30 days and should be given life.....


Catch
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Originally posted by MBM:
For those that believe he should be executed, how does the fact that he was a minor when the crimes were committed impact your thinking? Further, do you believe that he was influenced to commit these crimes by Muhammad? Does that relationship, and the influence that John had on Lee, at all mitigate your feelings about punishment for Malvo?



wtf! this dumbarzzes knew exactly what they were doing.

how 'bout some justice for the young afro-american scholar-athlete sitting in prison in georgia on some trumped-up statutory rape charge that was maliciously needled by a racist proscecutor.

the kid merely had consentual sex with a 16 yr old (white girl) a few weeks after his 18th birthday. the felt compelled to lie because of what her racist father and community (forsyth county, georgia) might have done if they had discovered she slept with a black guy. come on, dimwits ...!

i'm sick and tired of bemoaning of justice for buttholes like this that reek nothing but havoc and more misery on our community.

rodney king deserved an arzz kickin': consider his rap sheet before and after the infamous beating.

faheem: cut with the nihilistic bs!

when some of you, bible-thumpin', gutless negroes can cut with this wholesale apologist's rhetoric, i'll join you in singin' the praises of "kummbayah" argue

"There are two ways of exerting one's strength: one is pushing down, the other is pulling up."
~ Booker T Washington
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Originally posted by MBM:
quote:
Originally posted by sergeant:

The actual dilemma for humanity is whether killing those guilty of doing evil is equivalent to killing those innocent of evil. Most cultures throughout the world do not believe they are equivalent.

Most cultures/countries do not currently believe in, or enforce, the DP.




moot point. hadn't you heard? this is the mutha fvckin u.s. of a! and no one knows justice better.
... to paraphrase your commander-in-chief.

"There are two ways of exerting one's strength: one is pushing down, the other is pulling up."
~ Booker T Washington

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