1. I don't see why Blacks should particularly care one way or the other about the number of iPods sold but the pervasiveness of these devices combined with improvement in specs and decline in price guarantees greater pervasiveness in the future. So it says something about where we are headed.

And I don't think we are ready.

2. The curious question is: "What is a technology analyst?"

Is this person an electrical engineer? Or is this someone given a title to do media hype to promote people buying technology?

My take on this is a bit complicated. I'm an electrical engineering dropout but I was introduced to "good" stereo equipment in the frat I joined. I worked as an audio technician after I dropped out.

Needless to say Apple is a computer company and these iPods are just another computer application. I went to an Apple store shortly after they came out. I Walked in with my Panasonic Walkman. If I remember correctly they were talking $500 for 10 gig of music. It was interesting but as an old computer geek I regarded it as a waste of a 10 gig. I had to concede that RANDOM PLAY is a very nice advantage over cassettes.

I just bought portable device capable of playing MP3s and videos.

Archos PMA400

But it is also a full blown Linux computer. I have downloaded two book readers to it and the very first sci-fi book I ever read. The hilarious thing is no sci-fi book I read in the 60's envisioned anything like this. The tricorder on Star Trek is the closest thing I can think of.

But to bring a Black issue into this. There is a Black grammar school across the street from me. I can see little kids carrying back packs that could hold half of the kid. This Archos could hold 15,000 books. It can play back audio books the the kids could listen to while they walk to school. So are we going to use this technology to help kids deal with the future of technology or not?

http://www.nsc.org/library/facts/backpack.htm

umbra
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Originally posted by MBM:
Technology analyst Mario Armstrong and Farai Chideya talk about African American consumers and Apple's ubiquitous portable music player. Do national technology trends play the same way in the Black community?

link to listen


Unless these blacks have stock invested in Apple, I don't think many would care.
I listened to that today . . . on my iPod as a matter-of-fact. 1

As for whether "national technology trends play the same way in the Black community?", I don't know. I can only speak from what I've observed in my own family, so my "community" is quite small. Based on how my family acts though, I would say we are too much on the consuming end. I feel that we need to take full advantage of the trend and become producers as well.

I can only hope that there is an understanding in the black community * of the opportunity that 100 million iPod owners represents. That's a lot of ears and eyes searching for and consuming content. As well, add in all the other devices that will play mp3 and video files. Add to that the third-party softwares that allow you to play YouTube videos as well as ripped DVD ** movies on your iPod. Black folk need to be all over it. Who the hell would need (or want) BET when you can pick, choose, and customize your content from multiple sources?



*Speaking of the Black community, about two weeks ago, I wrote to the Houston NAACP for information about their Family Technology Center and have yet to hear a peep out of them. 6
**Not that I'm advocating such an illegal action. cool
I listened to the podcast on my D2. 1

What I can't help but wonder when I see people with portable devices that are NOT mp3 players is if it's about not being able to afford one or not owning a computer, or not being computer literate? (Or, maybe some folks just like their technology old school. Maybe they don't need to walk around with 30gbs of music.) I don't know.

I'd think that for most people being able to have easy access to music, podcasts, audiobooks--whatever--via mp3 players, is ideal. But, then too, one would have to have access to a computer and perhaps the internet.

Conversely, I guess, when I see folks with iPods and other digital audio players (DAPs) I think that they must be computer literate, own a computer, or are a least able to afford the player. I also think that they like the cool/wow factor that these players (especially, iPods) generate.
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Originally posted by Santana St. Cloud:
What I can't help but wonder when I see people with portable devices that are NOT mp3 players is if it's about not being able to afford one or not owning a computer, or not being computer literate? (Or, maybe some folks just like their technology old school. Maybe they don't need to walk around with 30gbs of music.) I don't know.


Some CD players are MP3 players. One MP3 encoded CD can hold 10 hours of music. Who needs more than that per day? Just swap discs for a different set of music. If all I wanted it for was music I would get that instead of a device with a hard drive. Sooner or later it is going to crash.

um
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Originally posted by umbrarchist:

I just bought portable device capable of playing MP3s and videos.

Archos PMA400

But it is also a full blown Linux computer. I have downloaded two book readers to it and the very first sci-fi book I ever read...

But to bring a Black issue into this. There is a Black grammar school across the street from me. I can see little kids carrying back packs that could hold half of the kid. This Archos could hold 15,000 books. It can play back audio books the the kids could listen to while they walk to school. So are we going to use this technology to help kids deal with the future of technology or not?

http://www.nsc.org/library/facts/backpack.htm

umbra


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This is a compelling argument - Ever consider writing something up & proposing it to your local school board?

I think I'll try to generate some buzz around this idea in my neck of the woods!

Thanks for the thought umbra!
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Originally posted by umbrarchist:

If all I wanted it for was music I would get that instead of a device with a hard drive. Sooner or later it is going to crash.

um


I prefer flash-based players; no movable parts! Unlike players that contain hard drives. However, flash players don't have the storage capacity of players with HDs. This is fine with me, since I really don't need to have my entire music collection in the palm of my hand.
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Originally posted by umbrarchist:

The hilarious thing is no sci-fi book I read in the 60's envisioned anything like this. The tricorder on Star Trek is the closest thing I can think of.
umbra


I was just joking with my coworker a few days ago about how many things our cell phones could do. I told her if only I could set the coordinates to stun, it would be just like a tri-corder!!! She replied "I really would like to beam up outta some places with mine!" Big Grin


I think black people are a bit slow on this one. There's so much educational material that you can take anywhere and play anywhere with an MP3 player. It's like having a university in a little pocket sized machine...
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Originally posted by negrospiritual:
I told her if only I could set the coordinates to stun, it would be just like a tri-corder!!!


Now see, I'm going to have to shoot you with my phaser for that. The tri-corders didn't do stun, it was the phasers.

You will have to be flunked out of Star Fleet Academy. lol

um
quote:
Originally posted by umbrarchist:
quote:
Originally posted by negrospiritual:
I told her if only I could set the coordinates to stun, it would be just like a tri-corder!!!


Now see, I'm going to have to shoot you with my phaser for that. The tri-corders didn't do stun, it was the phasers.

You will have to be flunked out of Star Fleet Academy. lol

um


I forgot about the phasers! Eek ok, I flunk, but maybe those green chicks will let me hang with them??? lol
quote:
Originally posted by negrospiritual:
I think black people are a bit slow on this one. There's so much educational material that you can take anywhere and play anywhere with an MP3 player. It's like having a university in a little pocket sized machine...


Word. There are times when I prefer podcasts to listening to music.
But to bring a Black issue into this. There is a Black grammar school across the street from me. I can see little kids carrying back packs that could hold half of the kid. This Archos could hold 15,000 books. It can play back audio books the the kids could listen to while they walk to school. So are we going to use this technology to help kids deal with the future of technology or not?---umbrachrist

Now...that's a thought.

PEACE

Jim Chester
quote:
Originally posted by James Wesley Chester:
This Archos could hold 15,000 books. It can play back audio books the the kids could listen to while they walk to school. So are we going to use this technology to help kids deal with the future of technology or not?---umbrachrist

Now...that's a thought.


I like the idea of audiobooks as well.

Unfortunately, there is now a downside to kids bringing digital audio players to school; they can facilitate cheating. Frown Article.
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Originally posted by Santana St. Cloud:
Unfortunately, there is now a downside to kids bringing digital audio players to school; they can facilitate cheating. Frown


If you force kids to learn what they don't want to know and put pressure on them to get A's what do you expect?

A history teacher of mine asked on a test, "What general said nuts to the Germans at the Battle of the Bulge?" I didn't know and I still don't, but I also don't care. He didn't tell us about the possibility that FDR knew Pearl Harbor was coming. He didn't tell us about Henry Ford donating money to the NAZI party in the 1920's.

Getting C's in history didn't bother me but the kids with parents on their backs to get A's and useless boring bullsh!t in history class have a problem.

umbra
MBM,

Are you referring to the fact that black folks are the major consumer funding apple and every other large company out there?

If so, sure I guess we should care. But only to the extend of monitoring what is important to us as a people.

We need to check our priorities, perhaps? Although I'm not one to talk. . .I looove my ipod!
iSmack

How many stories have you come across about people getting mugged for their iPods? Yes those white headphones have become a beacon for criminals and as the number of iPod snatchings rises, none of the peripheral vendors have released anything to help protect the consumer along with their iPod.



I present to you the iSmack Nano. Next time someone tries to jack your sh*t, let them know if they want your iPod, they'll have to get thru you first. Yes, it's a nano wrapped inside brass knuckles. New meaning to the song "Smack My Bitch Up".
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Originally posted by FireFly:
iSmack

How many stories have you come across about people getting mugged for their iPods? Yes those white headphones have become a beacon for criminals and as the number of iPod snatchings rises, none of the peripheral vendors have released anything to help protect the consumer along with their iPod.



I present to you the iSmack Nano. Next time someone tries to jack your sh*t, let them know if they want your iPod, they'll have to get thru you first. Yes, it's a nano wrapped inside brass knuckles. New meaning to the song "Smack My Bitch Up".
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