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...effort to make white people "comfortable"?

In other words, should we seek to ease the discomfort that is felt by the viewers of negative images about us, in order to make them feel less threatened?

The idea for this thread came about as a result of an essay that PowerFlower spoke about in another thread.

 

 

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No, no, no we should not and are not responsible for them being comfortable.

One of the biggest obstacles we face is their propensity to view themselves as the center of the universe and all that they do, think and feel as the norm, or as the normative standard to which everything is compared and judged. Much like spoiled children, they need to learn that the sun does not rise and set upon them. A little discomfort is just what the doctor ordered.
It seems like the answer should be obvious. But there it is, still a question. It is still a question because many of (us) still can be found trying to make 'them' comfortable.

Clearly, we have no obligation to do this. And actually, there is no need.

All the reasons...wait.

I find myself getting exasperated at myself for trying to search for some rationale 'they' might use to explain why meeting their needs is the thing to do.

Am I craazy????

Like I said several years ago, 'We don't owe them a damn thing??'

PEACE

Jim Chester
I think everyone should be able to BE who they are - unless their behaviour is unacceptable to any part of society.

As for the big guy running around the block an extra time, or going out of his way.... for myself, as a white woman, if a big guy (of any race) was getting in an elevator with me alone late at night, then just a smile from anyone would make me feel at ease if I felt uneasy. But I would only feel uneasy if I picked up that vibe. I don't expect special treatment.

I don't believe much media hype as it is, because it is sexist and racist and designed to sell a message and a product. TV and Hollywood are among the most sexist employers.

So I don't swallow that every white guy is decent, every black guy must be a dealer, every woman should be stick thin, every woman must be beautiful and sexy 24/7 or she may as well commit suicide.

What I want is the opportunity to talk with all different kinds of people of all races - and of both sexes - without putting my foot in my mouth too often. Which, heck yeah, I find myself doing on occasion. Roll Eyes

Speaking for myself, rather than creating a contrived 'comfort zone', I just want the opportunity to talk freely, and honestly, make mistakes, and learn from them.

I don't think there is enough dialog or or discussion between or about inter-racial issues. Some people welcome the opportunity, some don't. To me, any race of people is made up of individuals.
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Making them feel comfortable? That's absolutely ridiculous! It's one thing to say that seeing a group of teenagers talking loudly and wearing oversized clothing makes one uncomfortable--I don't like being near any race of teens, as a matter of fact (barely out of my teens years myself, funny enough). But then some people will persist in feeling threatened because you are Black, irregardless of how neatly dressed or well spoken you are. I've experienced situations like this, only with Asians instead of whites. There will be like 6 Asians on an elevator, and little ole 5'3 me, and dressed rather conservatively, and they act as if I'm going to take them all hostage. Seriously, I have been told by several different people that I am the most non-threatening person on the face of the planet--long skirts, argyle sweaters, coke-bottle glasses, goofy laugh!

I just decide to reverse the tables and have a little fun with them. When I get one of those fucktards, I act as if I'm scared out of my wits that they will harm me. I'm still laughing about an incident a few weeks ago, where three Asian women were on the elevator with me and had that "I'm so afraid of this female Steve Urkel" attitude, so I quickly moved to the far end of the elevator and very obviously grabbed my purse tightly and gave the three of them that panicked once-over. When one reached to press the button for a floor, I gasped and jumped back, hugging my arms around myself. I made a big show of looking frightened, but also apparently trying to not look at them. I was clutching my cell phone in my hand and intentionally shaking slightly. When my floor came, I hurried off and gave them this deer in the headlight stare. You should have seen their faces! Their expressions changed from "wtf?" to "what a weirdo" until it finally dawned on them that I was treating them like a threat. Two looked thoroughly confused, one looked indignant. Keep in mind that these were the same women who only moments before clutched their person and gave one another "the look" to see me on the elevator.

That by far wasn't the best, though; once, this Asian guy and I were at a bus stop, and as soon as he saw me approach he started hugging his loptop to him as if I was going to pry it out of his hands. I happened to be standing near the schedule table, and as he approached I jumped back and yelped "please don't hurt me! I don't have any money!" I almost pissed myself to see the look on his face (so hard keeping a straight face when doing this). Other people stopped and looking in our direction, so he hurriedly walked away from the bus stop, looking rather stupid.

They call me "uppity" for a reason ;-)
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Originally posted by AudioGuy:
...effort to make white people "comfortable"?


IN THE CONTEXT OF COMMERCE - YES.

We should show them that it is safe to SHOP in our communities so that they can HAND US THEIR MONEY.

We should show them that a Black business who opens up IN THEIR COMMUNITY is going to provide the best service - SO THEY CAN HAND OVER THEIR MONEY TO US.

We should have our schools in working order where they will attempt to TRANSFER INTO OUR SCHOOLS in order to give THEIR kids an early exposure how COMPETITIVE the real world is and that they need to be prepared.

[B]To be Clear AUDIO GUY - The effort to "comfort the White man" should NOT FLOW FROM AN EFFORT THAT IS PRIMARILY SET UPON THIS GOAL.

This should happen because the BLACK QUALITY STANDARD is HIGHER THAN WHAT THE WHITE MAN HAS TO OFFER.

As a result of this higher standard and high level of CIVILITY - the White man WILL THINK that we are doing this for HIS BENEFIT and will intiate a net POSITIVE FLOW OF CASH INTO OUR HANDS via TRADE.
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IN THE CONTEXT OF COMMERCE - YES.

We should show them that it is safe to SHOP in our communities so that they can HAND US THEIR MONEY.
AUDIO did NOT ask an open-ended question. It already had a CONTEXT. Thank you. Matter of fact, he linked your Chosen Illiterate ass right to the CONTEXT.

The question itself, especially with the linked CONTEXT, betrays even the slightest notion that concerns/considerations about COMMERCE were ever even part of any conceiveable CONTEXT or purpose for asking the question:
    Should we seek to ease the discomfort that is felt by the viewers of negative images about us, in order to make them feel less threatened?
Seriously... could you tell us HOW YOU THINK White Folks are/feel *threatened* by Black Businesses (since you want to mention commerce)?? Could you tell use HOW YOU THINK White Folks are/feel *threatened* by "our schools which are not in working order"??? Threatened in the same way the CONTEXT explored the Perception Of "Threat" -- places where White Folks' sense of anxiety, fear... the apprehensive feeling of a "threat" appeared in places, Instances That Were UNAVOIDABLE (proverbial and perceived "wrong place at the wrong time" scenarios).

What you described, DUMB-Feed, are things that White Folks can casually ignore and, for the most part, AVOID. Black Businesses don't just happen to walk down the same dark street that a White person has to walk. White people can pass Black business after Black business and not be confronted with the prospect (in their perceptions) of being ROBBED (as a dependant consumer). In truth, very few if any have to go down that street. That is unless you can demonstrate how any significant number of Whites depend or otherwise rely on the products produced or sold by Black businesses. Of course, you and both know this doesn't align with things you believe or espouse.

So where is the real THREAT in the CONTEXT you want to install? i.e. an indication of something impending [even if only as a function of, in this case, White Perceptions].

In both of your scenarios, illustrate what's IMPENDING and UNAVOIDABLE for the White People you were talking about? How are those White Folks, the same ones you want to feel "safe" for Black Commerce purposes... HOW ARE THOSE WHITE FOLKS endangered or IN DANGER in any direct fashion by any potential or perceived BLACK THREAT?
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Originally posted by Constructive Feedback:
IN THE CONTEXT OF COMMERCE - YES.

We should show them that it is safe to SHOP in our communities so that they can HAND US THEIR MONEY.


CON-Feed: "Yes'suh boss! You'se can trust me! I'se do right and I'se won't cheat ya or nuttin'!"


Question: Why should I invest in White commerce? They should be just as obligated to show ME that MY money is safe in their hands.

1) You assume that White racial discrimination against Minorities in business is well-founded.

2) You are implying that White business is self-evidently trustworthy.

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We should show them that a Black business who opens up IN THEIR COMMUNITY is going to provide the best service - SO THEY CAN HAND OVER THEIR MONEY TO US.


And they should do the same with us. But, no, you don't believe in that.

The White man can always be trusted, it's the damn Darkies that need to prove to the White Man that they are not a bunch of monkies.

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We should have our schools in working order where they will attempt to TRANSFER INTO OUR SCHOOLS in order to give THEIR kids an early exposure how COMPETITIVE the real world is and that they need to be prepared.


WE SHOULD HAVE OUR SCHOOLS IN WORKING ORDER TO BENEFIT OUR CHILDREN!!!

WHITE-MAJORITY SCHOOLS MOST CERTAINLY DO NOT MAKE SURE THEY ARE IN WORKING ORDER TO IMPRESS THE BLACK COMMUNITY, AND NEITHER SHOULD WE GO OUT OF OUR WAY TO IMPRESS THEM.

BLACK CHILDREN NEED EDUCATION: BOTTOM LINE. MOTHERFUCK WHAT WHITE PARENTS THINK ABOUT OUR SCHOOLS, WHITE PARENTS WILL ALWAYS VIEW BLACK KIDS AS INFERIOR TO THEIR CHILDREN, NO MATTER WHAT. WHAT WHITE PARENTS THINK ABOUT OUR CHILDREN IS IRRELEVENT.


MORE MODEL-MINORITY RHETORIC FROM YOU TODAY.

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To be Clear AUDIO GUY - The effort to "comfort the White man" should NOT FLOW FROM AN EFFORT THAT IS PRIMARILY SET UPON THIS GOAL.


ENGLISH MOTHERFUCKER!! DO YOU SPEAK IT??


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This should happen because the BLACK QUALITY STANDARD is HIGHER THAN WHAT THE WHITE MAN HAS TO OFFER.


And??

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As a result of this higher standard and high level of CIVILITY - the White man WILL THINK that we are doing this for HIS BENEFIT and will intiate a net POSITIVE FLOW OF CASH INTO OUR HANDS via TRADE.


BULLSHIT!!!



NOW IF THAT'S NOT A "MODEL MINORITY" ARGUMENT, I DON'T KNOW WHAT IS.


Oh man, that needs to be shown again:

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Originally posted by Constructive Feedback:

As a result of this higher standard and high level of CIVILITY - the White man WILL THINK that we are doing this for HIS BENEFIT and will intiate a net POSITIVE FLOW OF CASH INTO OUR HANDS via TRADE



Reality check, dumbass: BLACK EMPLOYEES WITH HIGER QUALIFICATIONS ARE PURGED BY LESS-QUALIFIED WHITE EMPLOYEES!!!

http://www.cre.gov.uk/legal/cases.html

No matter how many college diplomas you have, as long as your ass is Black, you can be replaced by a White person with a goddamn GED.

THIS NEED TO BE DEALT WITH SYSTEMATICALLY.
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Originally posted by Kevin41:
Wow....that bullschit after saying my claim to fame was to sit next to white people...that negro has lost it......seriously

You noticed that too...

Now, all-of-sudden... It's okay to "want" THE WHITE MAN'S money and to even be concerned with what White people think. Some time ago, there was this idea forwarded that What White Folks Think were not important, apparently under no circumstances.
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We should have our schools in working order where they will attempt to TRANSFER INTO OUR SCHOOLS in order to give THEIR kids an early exposure how COMPETITIVE the real world is and that they need to be prepared.




**Wow....that is all I got to say Nmaginate......something's wrong with the cat...he has to be a white boy pretender....i'm going to give black people more credit....then there are the uncle tom(ases), coonerlys and williams types.......so I guess I'll just rescind that statement altogether.........damn...
No. (but it also depends on where you live whether you may want to take it into account)

If I am by myself and not acting the fool then I expect that people around my are not going to feel uncomfortable.

Quite frankly if a person is that stupid to show discomfort then rest assured I will use it to my advantage to embarrass them for their ignorance.
In the a city where 99% of the crime is committed by whites I find it somewhat offensive to walk by a person who grabs their purse as I approach- so sometimes I make a comment about their stupidity.
I damn near fell out laughing while reading what Sister PowerFlower wrote; She writes that the brother wrote in his article;

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And as for when he is out walking he has started to whistle, not just because he likes to and he is in a good mood, but because a whistling Black man would be perceived as less threatening.


HAHA... a whistling Black man would be perceived as less threatening... I can just see Negroes walking around whistling trying to say to white folk, "I am a cool Negro not one of those violent ones". Imagine how psychologically warped a white person must be to believe a Black man whistling is not a threat. Some Negroes would tap dance every time they walk pass a white person if they thought it would make the white person believe they are not one of those violent Black people.

What this brother is doing is in effect more damaging than helpful because he is creating a New Negro, the less threatening Negro that is not like the majority of Black Men, hence the fears of white folk will not subside nor will their stereotypical beliefs go away, they will only be taught to look for certain characteristics in a Black person they see that says to them he is no threat to me he is one of those New Negroes.


As far as what CF has put forth, the idea that we should appease white folk to make them believe it is ok to do business with us is another New negro type behavior, no one appeases us, they simply set up shop and go about their business. We have not proven to anyone that is not ok to do business with us, that is their own racist view one we are not responsible for creating and one we should not waste one second trying to correct.
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Originally posted by UppityNegress:
... There will be like 6 Asians on an elevator, and little ole 5'3 me, and dressed rather conservatively, and they act as if I'm going to take them all hostage...

..."I'm so afraid of this female Steve Urkel" attitude, so I quickly moved to the far end of the elevator and very obviously grabbed my purse tightly and gave the three of them that panicked once-over. When one reached to press the button for a floor, I gasped and jumped back, hugging my arms around myself. I made a big show of looking frightened,...

...as soon as he saw me approach he started hugging his loptop to him as if I was going to pry it out of his hands. I happened to be standing near the schedule table, and as he approached I jumped back and yelped "please don't hurt me! I don't have any money!"...


How you have described yourself is amazingly similar to the person who trained Bruce Lee to be the greatest martial arts expert to ever live... Smal Shi Won - apparently your mere presence strikes fear in the hearts of all asians...

Maybe you should change you name to "Super" UppityNegress or "Master" UppityNegress or "Ninja" UppityNegress... Wink Big Grin
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Originally posted by Constructive Feedback:
IN THE CONTEXT OF COMMERCE - YES.

We should show them that it is safe to SHOP in our communities so that they can HAND US THEIR MONEY.

We should show them that a Black business who opens up IN THEIR COMMUNITY is going to provide the best service - SO THEY CAN HAND OVER THEIR MONEY TO US.
You are quite obviously mis-named... The "feedback" you have given is useless. How exactly would you propose the we do what you have imagined??
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We should have our schools in working order where they will attempt to TRANSFER INTO OUR SCHOOLS in order to give THEIR kids an early exposure how COMPETITIVE the real world is and that they need to be prepared.
White people are not going to transfer their kids to a majority Black school under any circumstances - no matter how good the school is, that will NOT happen...

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[B]To be Clear AUDIO GUY - The effort to "comfort the White man" should NOT FLOW FROM AN EFFORT THAT IS PRIMARILY SET UPON THIS GOAL.
What "goal" are you referring to??

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This should happen because the BLACK QUALITY STANDARD is HIGHER THAN WHAT THE WHITE MAN HAS TO OFFER.
Many times this is already the case, white people just refuse to believe it...

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As a result of this higher standard and high level of CIVILITY - the White man WILL THINK that we are doing this for HIS BENEFIT and will intiate a net POSITIVE FLOW OF CASH INTO OUR HANDS via TRADE.
If we just got BLACK people to believe what you are saying, we would not NEED white people... As I understand it we consume more than any other group, but we spend most of the money in the white community... Give me some "feedback" on how we change that...
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IMHO
A little fear is good!!

I had a experience when I was working and taking classes at the near-by university. I decided to walk several blocks from work to the unversity to buy books early for my upcoming classes. If you ever taken college classes you know what the book store line is like on the first day of classes! Well, as I was walking I notice this young black man walking a half a block behind. He was dressed in orange jean jacket and orange baggie pants to match. He was gaining on me so in FEAR I crossed the street. Well he passed me and I was relieved. When I arrived at the book store, the lines were getting long so I hurried and got my books and got in line. Holy moly, standing in front of me in line was the was the young man dressed in orange paying for his books by check. Hmm, shame on me for judging this young man without knowing anything about him.
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Originally posted by Nmaginate:
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Originally posted by Kevin41:
Wow....that bullschit after saying my claim to fame was to sit next to white people...that negro has lost it......seriously

You noticed that too...

Now, all-of-sudden... It's okay to "want" THE WHITE MAN'S money and to even be concerned with what White people think. Some time ago, there was this idea forwarded that What White Folks Think were not important, apparently under no circumstances.


Kevin, Nmaginate,

All I gotta say is, that Kneegrow is insane (CF). He's so effing non-sensical and self-hating, that he's giving me high blood pressure just talking to him, I think I'm going to stop while my health is still ahead, and I still have my sanity......

I wish we had an "ignore" feature around here so we could all put CF on our Ignore List.
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...once, this Asian guy and I were at a bus stop, and as soon as he saw me approach he started hugging his loptop to him as if I was going to pry it out of his hands. I happened to be standing near the schedule table, and as he approached I jumped back and yelped "please don't hurt me! I don't have any money!" I almost pissed myself to see the look on his face (so hard keeping a straight face when doing this).

They call me "uppity" for a reason ;-)


LMAO! lol

'fucktard' (!?) laugh
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Yes, Black people should put white people's fears at ease. Instead of letting the poor white man suffer through an entire train ride, watching you and clutching his bag, just rob him blind as soon as you get on the train so you both can relax. Etc. Roll Eyes

None of us are easily separated from our misconceptions and stereotypes. If I spot a white man wearing dark clothing and a shaved head with tattoos on his body... he's a skinhead. If he doesn't attack me, he is a skinhead in a particularly generous mood. He is not going to do or say anything to put me at complete ease. I presume the opposite is also true.
Frenchy
None of us are easily separated from our misconceptions and stereotypes. If I spot a white man wearing dark clothing and a shaved head with tattoos on his body... he's a skinhead. If he doesn't attack me, he is a skinhead in a particularly generous mood. He is not going to do or say anything to put me at complete ease. I presume the opposite is also true.
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This is so true.

The important thing is not to embarass the other person by acting in a way to show your discomfort.

This afternoon after reading this post I had to go out and run some errands. I dropped my truck off for servicing (wow no appointment needed) and walked over to a new shopping mall. I was very disappointed as I walked about in several stores and nobody gave the old deer in the headlights look of fear.

Now I will have to wait till the weekend to experiment.
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Originally posted by AudioGuy:
...effort to make white people "comfortable"?



IN THE CONTEXT OF COMMERCE - YES.

We should show them that it is safe to SHOP in our communities so that they can HAND US THEIR MONEY.

We should show them that a Black business who opens up IN THEIR COMMUNITY is going to provide the best service - SO THEY CAN HAND OVER THEIR MONEY TO US.


The context was how we behave in public in general, getting on an elevator, entering a building, walking down the street, etc.

As far as commerce is concerned, an good business person should have good customer service skills period. As a business person, if the clients you want are multi-racial then you need to cater to them so that you can get their business. That means treating them with respect, in certain cases trying to anticipate their desires, etc. That goes for Black and White and polka-dotted striped clients. White store owners need to take that into consideration when treating Black patrons like shoplifters or like they can't afford what they are looking at...

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We should have our schools in working order where they will attempt to TRANSFER INTO OUR SCHOOLS in order to give THEIR kids an early exposure how COMPETITIVE the real world is and that they need to be prepared.


Our schools should be in working order so that our kids get the most out of them.
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Originally posted by Empty Purnata:
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Originally posted by Nmaginate:
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Originally posted by Kevin41:
Wow....that bullschit after saying my claim to fame was to sit next to white people...that negro has lost it......seriously

You noticed that too...

Now, all-of-sudden... It's okay to "want" THE WHITE MAN'S money and to even be concerned with what White people think. Some time ago, there was this idea forwarded that What White Folks Think were not important, apparently under no circumstances.


Kevin, Nmaginate,

All I gotta say is, that Kneegrow is insane (CF). He's so effing non-sensical and self-hating, that he's giving me high blood pressure just talking to him, I think I'm going to stop while my health is still ahead, and I still have my sanity......

I wish we had an "ignore" feature around here so we could all put CF on our Ignore List.




***That schit with him and Lofton has grown old indeed.....but i'm sure it will fizzle down to nothing this year...its overdue......
CF's attitude towards Black Business dealing with White Business reminds me of Malcolm X's attitude towards White people in a scene of the movie "Malcolm X" with Denzel Washington.

Malcolm X (still "Malcolm Little" at the time) was a teenager/young adult working on a train as a waiter having to serve White passengers. He walked around carrying food trays with a big smile on his face calling out what food he was carrying. A White navyman (this was shortly after WWII) asks for some food, and Malcolm [Denzel] says to the White man, "Yes'suh! I aims to please and I'm pleased to aim!" with a coonish grin on his face. The White navyman says, "I like you, boy." patronizingly. Malcolm X smiles and says, "Thank you 'suh!"


*shakes head*

CON-Feed has the same attitude on how Blacks should behave around Whitey. Except unlike Malcolm X, he REALLY FEELS THAT WAY. In the movie, Malcolm, even as a young man, was just catoring to White people because it was the only job he could get. Shortly after saying, "Thank you 'suh!" to the White customer, he imagine shoving food in the navyman's face for being patronizing. CF would NEVER even DREAM of doing that.
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Originally posted by Diamond:
IMHO
A little fear is good!!

I had a experience when I was working and taking classes at the near-by university. I decided to walk several blocks from work to the unversity to buy books early for my upcoming classes. If you ever taken college classes you know what the book store line is like on the first day of classes! Well, as I was walking I notice this young black man walking a half a block behind. He was dressed in orange jean jacket and orange baggie pants to match. He was gaining on me so in FEAR I crossed the street. Well he passed me and I was relieved. When I arrived at the book store, the lines were getting long so I hurried and got my books and got in line. Holy moly, standing in front of me in line was the was the young man dressed in orange paying for his books by check. Hmm, shame on me for judging this young man without knowing anything about him.
Is there a correlation between "fear being good" and your bookstore experience?

It would seem to me that your fear was unwarranted... based on the story...
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Originally posted by Nmaginate:
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BV, Wouldn't "comfort" come under "the pursuit of happiness"?
Okay, I'm lost. Confused.

AUDIO?
You think Black people should make an effort to make white people "comfortable"?
In a word (or 2), HELL NO!!

I was just playing "devil's advocate".

An argument that I have heard made by white folks to justify their behavior is the "pursuit of happiness".
    *We have a right (as guaranteed by the constitution) to feel comfortable in our neighborhoods, and we don't feel with "them" here.*
When your discomfort is based on your own biases, misinformation, ignorance, fallacious assumptions, etc. it is on you to make yourself comfortable, not on me to go out of my way to make you comfortable when I didn't do anything wrong in the first place. If you're uncomfortable, then you circle the block until you don't see any more Black folks. You get off the elevator an wait for the next car. You keep yourself within your comfort zone. Don't tell Black men that they need to do these things so that those types of white folks can continue to live in their ignorance more blissfully.
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Originally posted by powerflower:
When your discomfort is based on your own biases, misinformation, ignorance, fallacious assumptions, etc. it is on you to make yourself comfortable, not on me to go out of my way to make you comfortable when I didn't do anything wrong in the first place.


Powerfully and wonderfully put. tfro
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Originally posted by AudioGuy:
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Originally posted by Black Viking:
The Constitution grants us the right to Life, Liberty, and the Persuit of Happiness. No one has a right to be confortable. Comfort is a privilege. Privileges are earned.
BV, Wouldn't "comfort" come under "the pursuit of happiness"?


If so, the technically it would be "the pursuit of comfort". The right to pursue happiness doesn't guarantee that your going to catch it. Ultimately I agree with powerflower on this one. If my presence makes someone uncomfortable, they have a "right" to go somewhere else.
QUOTE]Originally posted by AudioGuy:
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Originally posted by Diamond:
IMHO
A little fear is good!!

I had a experience when I was working and taking classes at the near-by university. I decided to walk several blocks from work to the unversity to buy books early for my upcoming classes. If you ever taken college classes you know what the book store line is like on the first day of classes! Well, as I was walking I notice this young black man walking a half a block behind. He was dressed in orange jean jacket and orange baggie pants to match. He was gaining on me so in FEAR I crossed the street. Well he passed me and I was relieved. When I arrived at the book store, the lines were getting long so I hurried and got my books and got in line. Holy moly, standing in front of me in line was the was the young man dressed in orange paying for his books by check. Hmm, shame on me for judging this young man without knowing anything about him.
Is there a correlation between "fear being good" and your bookstore experience?

It would seem to me that your fear was unwarranted... based on the story...[/QUOTE]

A little fear makes you aware of your surroundings when walking. I thought the young man was a THUG out to snatch my purse or an out-patient from the near-by asylum out to do me harm. Only to discover, the young man was doing what I was doing, continuing his education and buying books for class.

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