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....These Individuals Seek to Run to Safety in an Affluent Primarily Caucasian Controlled Culver City. So Far the Interests to Break Away From Inglewood City Public Schools by a Few Upper Middleclass Black Families of Ladera Heights, to be Accepted in Culver City Public Schools, Have Been Rejected, and Rightfully So!!

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Parents Want to Ditch City's Schools

Some Ladera Heights residents want to leave Inglewood's district and join Culver City's.

Both cities oppose plan.

By Jean Merl, Times Staff Writer

January 3, 2006

Cheryl and Gary Cook love nearly everything about Ladera Heights "” its neighborly residents, its gracious, well-tended homes, its safe, quiet streets and its convenient location near LAX and the San Diego Freeway. But their deep affection for the upscale community does not extend to its public schools.

The Cooks and many others in Ladera Heights, an unincorporated, largely residential community of about 8,000, are trying to leave the Inglewood Unified School District and join the adjacent Culver City Unified School District, a smaller system with higher student achievement rates. And, Ladera leaders say, they want schools in a community they think has more in common with their own.

They gathered more than enough signatures to put the territory transfer proposal before the Los Angeles County Committee on School District Organization, which is scheduled to consider the matter this month.

But Inglewood doesn't want to lose Ladera Heights. Both the school board and the City Council passed resolutions opposing the transfer, and the school district has hired a consultant to press its case before the county committee. Inglewood officials have warned that such a move would have serious financial and other consequences for their district.

At least one school board member has called the proposal racist, even though African Americans form a majority in Ladera Heights.

And Culver City's school board doesn't want Ladera Heights' students.

Facing a contested fall election with a challenger making the Ladera proposal a campaign issue, Culver City school board members also passed a resolution opposing the transfer. They mainly cited a desire to keep district boundaries the same as the city's and said they needed more information about the proposal's effects on enrollment, facilities and traffic.

The first public hearings were rescheduled because there was not enough room to accommodate all the anxious parents and others who turned out. The Inglewood superintendent had sent out an automated phone message, in Spanish and English, to all district parents, urging them to attend and warning that schools could close and teachers could lose their jobs if the transfer were to go through.

"The reaction really surprised us," said Cheryl Cook, one of the leaders in the transfer campaign and stay-at-home mother of Gerald, 11, who attends private school in Culver City. "We were shocked by the emotionalism and all the misinformation" about the fate of district schools, numbers of potential student transfers and other issues.

But USC education professor Priscilla Wohlstetter said school district reorganization attempts often are fraught with emotion because much is at stake, especially for the district that stands to lose students. Lower enrollment translates into less state funding to cover such fixed costs as salaries and school maintenance.

"These are often such clear situations of winners and losers," Wohlstetter said. "The winning district gets the families and the resources, and the losing district" has to make do with less. "There really are no gray areas."

In recent years, several other area communities have battled opposition from school districts they have sought to leave. Carson leaders overwhelmingly lost a November 2001 election to split from the Los Angeles Unified School District in the face of a well-funded, well-organized opposition campaign led by United Teachers Los Angeles. Shortly afterward, the state Board of Education turned down a hard-fought proposal to downsize Los Angeles Unified by carving out two new districts in the San Fernando Valley.

In late 2004, the Centinela Valley Union High School District near Los Angeles International Airport prevailed in a court battle over environmental issues that has delayed the years-long effort of one of its elementary districts "” Wiseburn "” to leave by "unifying" and adding its own high school.

The Ladera Heights proposition is fairly straightforward. The community, defined by its 90056 ZIP Code, would transfer from one district to another. No school property would change hands because all campuses serving Ladera would remain within Inglewood city boundaries. Ladera residents would no longer be required to help pay off Inglewood school bonds but would chip in for Culver City school bonds.

Transfer supporters said the removal of the fewer than 400 Ladera students in the 17,000-student Inglewood district would not have much effect. The 6,500-student Culver City district keeps its seats filled by issuing about 1,000 permits a year to students living outside the district (about 25 live in Ladera), district officials said..

With about 200 to 300 of those permits turning over annually, proponents of the territory transfer say Culver City could easily absorb Ladera students.

But Inglewood officials say the number of transferring students could be much higher because many Ladera students currently attend private schools. Ladera leaders expect that very few of those students would switch to public schools. The Cooks, for example, say they plan to keep Gerald in private school, regardless of what happens.

Under state law, district reshuffling proposals must meet nine criteria, including findings that they would not negatively affect the fiscal status of the districts involved, would not significantly disrupt the educational programs and would not promote racial or ethnic discrimination or segregation.

In a detailed report to the county committee, the Inglewood district contends that the proposal meets only one of the nine criteria. They say, for example, the move would be harmful because it would remove the highest socioeconomic group of its students and create "a 'stigma' on the balance of" Inglewood students.

Such a move also probably would result in lower state achievement test scores at the two schools that would be most affected by the transfer: Frank D. Parent and La Tijera, both enrolling kindergarteners through eighth-graders.

The loss of Ladera Heights students "could create a situation where many of our most promising academically gifted students from upper middle-class families will leave the district, further separating students on the basis of socioeconomic and racial status," the report said.

Further, the transfer proposal ignores the significant gains Inglewood schools have made in recent years in the state's testing and accountability program, according to the report. The district's overall score on the 2004-05 Academic Performance Index was 679 out of a possible 1,000 "” a 32-point improvement from the previous year. Culver City posted an overall score of 763, approaching the state's 800 goal.

Ladera Heights leaders dismiss those arguments "” and the report's contention that their primary motivation is to raise their property values "” as irrelevant and false.

Ronni Cooper, a former Inglewood school board member and current president of the Ladera Heights Civic Assn., said she and her neighbors have tried for years to work with the district and have been opposed.

"All these parents wanted something better for their schools. They tried and they tried, and then they gave up," Cooper said. Now, families are looking to Culver City for "a viable public school option," she said.

Gerald Riberio, a mother of three who has been a volunteer and PTA leader at Parent Elementary for more than 16 years, said she has had "countless meetings with the various principals, superintendents and board members."

She sent her daughters to a private high school but remains vice president of the Parent PTA, even though she no longer has children there.

"My tax dollars are being used by [the district], so it is obvious that the right thing to do is to try to improve the school and the district," Riberio said. "But it's been very frustrating." Now she wants to help her community align with Culver City schools.

"Any good parent wants their children to have the best education possible," she said.

Ladera resident and Inglewood School Board Vice President Johnny J. Young, in a letter to his fellow residents, condemned the transfer proposal as motivated by property values and as "racism at its worst ... an attack on the African American male."

"I, along with many others, want the best for all children, which is why I have donated my services as a change agent board member while continuing to be active in the [Inglewood district] over the past 32 years," said Young, who would be required to give up his board seat if the transfer went through.

Supporters of switching school districts point out that their property values already are higher than those in Culver City. They also note that Ladera Heights has many African American families, including the Cooks and some of the other strongest proponents of leaving the Inglewood district.

"It's unbelievable to me how they've tried to make it a racial thing," Cook said.

The county committee is scheduled to discuss a staff report on the proposal Jan. 18 and could decide then whether to accept it and call an election.

It could delay a decision if it determines that an environmental study should be done and if the state board makes an exception to its timeline rules for such transfers.

Copyright 2006 Los Angeles Times

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...Mind you by and large the residents of Culver City are against this move, and such a move would be very detrimental for the masses of the Black community. Indeed as it pertains to those of influence of Culver City, and Inglewood, the special interests of a few middle-upperclass Black families should be rejected, for the good of the masses.

One Thing is Certain. It is a Given That the Affluent Black Middleclass Are being Stopped in Their Tracks From Leaving What They Perceive as Blighted as it Relates to Inglewood, for an Opposing Affluent Culver City!

Sincerely,

Michael Lofton

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I looked up the demographic data for Ladera Heights, and must say it does appear to be a rather impressive neighborhood. 70.8% of the population is Black, more than 52% have bachelor's degrees, and more than a quarter have graduate or professional degrees, and more than 75% of the households have annual incomes over 50k.
http://censtats.census.gov/data/CA/1600639108.pdf

A truly affluent Black community--why have people never seemed to have heard of it?

You make a good point, Michael; these are the sort of folks who would be in prime position to improve the poorer parts of Inglewood. But then I tried putting myself in their shoes: why shouldn't they try to merge with Culver City if that school district would provide better funding for their children? While I believe in improving one's neighborhood/school/district/whatever, I can't help but wonder if it should be done at a negative cost to oneself.
"I looked up the demographic data for Ladera Heights, and must say it does appear to be a rather impressive neighborhood. 70.8% of the population is Black, more than 52% have bachelor's degrees, and more than a quarter have graduate or professional degrees, and more than 75% of the households have annual incomes over 50k.
http://censtats.census.gov/data/CA/1600639108.pdf" by UppityNegress

A truly affluent Black community--why have people never seemed to have heard of it?

You make a good point, Michael; these are the sort of folks who would be in prime position to improve the poorer parts of Inglewood. But then I tried putting myself in their shoes: why shouldn't they try to merge with Culver City if that school district would provide better funding for their children? While I believe in improving one's neighborhood/school/district/whatever, I can't help but wonder if it should be done at a negative cost to oneself." by UppityNegress

....Although they want to, they must first be accepted. Since Culver City is an affluent Caucasian community, slim chance exists where Culver City will reduce the quality of education for their offspring to improve the quality of education, living, and/or otherwise for any affluent group of Black people. If you are that affluent then you should be in position to promote your own destiny, be the destiny educational opportunity, business development, or otherwise.

Heck, in contrast, affluent Hispanics, Koreans, etc., etc., are creating their own "Heaven on Earth" to which it would not matter where they live. When you improve your own station in life, it is much less important to become a part of, or beg to be apart of anyone else's domain.

Over the years East Los Angeles, Korea Town, China Town, etc., etc., have evolved into flourishing communities, namely because of the investment, sacrifices, etc., etc., of the people who live there.

Mind you, the City Inglewood used to be predominately Caucasian. Black people wanted to integrate so bad, that Caucasians made a financial bonanza of a killing off of every Black homeowner who bought from them. Heck, it is certain, that numerous Caucasians made a grand financial killing off of the sale of the old Pepperdine University Campus located on South Vermont Avenue, on real estate now occupied by Reverend Fred Price and his congregation.

It would seem, after possessing bachelors, masters, and doctorate degrees, Black people would be more on the alert, and not as apt to be taken to the cleaners.

Mind you, where the Great Western Forum now sits, Black people have allowed themselves to be tricked again, tricked by our own no good poverty pimping Black preachers. Any given day the word is out on the streets as to how Black people have placed their homes up as collateral to help to pay the note on the Forum for Church services, and to help finance the preacher's high society life style in the "burbs" at the expense of you know who.

Mind you although it has been said that Black people now own the Great Western Forum, the new owners cannot use the property as they see fit. Something is definitely amiss, as it pertains to any real ownership rights here, meaning like usual Black people have allowed themselves to be tricked by our own no good sleazy greedy reverends.
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....Although they want to, they must first be accepted. Since Culver City is an affluent Caucasian community, slim chance exists where Culver City will reduce the quality of education for their offspring to improve the quality of education, living, and/or otherwise for any affluent group of Black people. If you are that affluent then you should be in position to promote your own destiny, be the destiny educational opportunity, business development, or otherwise.

Heck, in contrast, affluent Hispanics, Koreans, etc., etc., are creating their own "Heaven on Earth" to which it would not matter where they live. When you improve your own station in life, it is much less important to become a part of, or beg to be apart of anyone else's domain.

Over the years East Los Angeles, Korea Town, China Town, etc., etc., have evolved into flourishing communities, namely because of the investment, sacrifices, etc., etc., of the people who live there.



I could say the same thing about many Black neighborhoods. And, many people in Korea Town and China Town are poor. It isn't the "heaven on earth" bullshit you just painted.

But nope, to Kneegrows such as yourself, there is no such thing as a "good Black neighborhood". Only if there are rich, Republican White neighbors controlling it.
....and people such as an Empty Purnata are nothing but mouth. The many individuals from our community as referenced are losing homes, property, their sanity from the stress of it all, more times than not are the last hired and first fired, to which this is very serious business.....

....some of these individuals are very angry, and it is just a matter time before their anger is manifested in other ways.

.....much to serious to say, that this is not happening. I will say it won't happen to me, because since I was child I've seen the sleaze of our own no good sacreligious jackleg preachers and deacons first hand. I'm not about to part with my hard earned assets to swim in misery while a deceitful no good Black preacher lives at my expense, to purchase his or her mansion estate in Granada Hills, Bel Air, Pacific Palisades, etc., etc.

Sincerely,

Michael Lofton
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.....much to serious to say, that this is not happening. I will say it won't happen to me, because since I was child I've seen the sleaze of our own no good sacreligious jackleg preachers and deacons first hand. I'm not about to part with my hard earned assets to swim in misery while a deceitful no good Black preacher lives at my expense, to purchase his or her mansion estate in Granada Hills, Bel Air, Pacific Palisades, etc., etc.


Cool, because I'm not affiliated with jagleg Black preachers anyway.

Funny how you seem to assume that every Black person is some character from an episode of Amos N' Andy, or some other caricature.


I'd rather not listen to the foolishness of Black Conservatives who stroke the egos of their White peers and hold preach about "fiscal indepedence", while supporting corporations with their hands out for goverment handouts.

I'd rather not listen to people who want to defend men in goverment and business who exploit workers, the forced Black consumers, exploited third-world sweatshop workers, while the CEO's go on vacation in the Caribbean getting rich off of others.

You sir, are all talk. Smile
"Funny how you seem to assume that every Black person is some character from an episode of Amos N' Andy, or some other caricature" by EmptyPurnata

...you need to grow up. This is very serious, and it has absolutely nothing to do with any episode of any Amos N Andy, etc.,etc.

.....this is about survival. It is certain, that your antics would not be considered humorous to those Black people from our community, whose future is on the line, devastated because of the greed, sleaze, and blatantly unethical actions of individuals from our own community looked upon as being men and women of religious cloth, trustworthy, ethical, etc.

.....and it matters not what you think of me. It is certain the Black people facing this music won't take to kindly to your sentiments, because make no mistake, as reality would have it, many of them are being hijacked daily by you know who!
EP....Did you notive how the movement of black people into Culver City is referenced with reducing the quality of education for their own children? I really wonder what kind of black people have these cats really been exposed to. Do you think they have ever been around anything black that they view as adequate, starting with themselves? I don't realy trip on em anymore but they are intriguing individuals indeed..............
"EP....Did you notive how the movement of black people into Culver City is referenced with reducing the quality of education for their own children? I really wonder what kind of black people have these cats really been exposed to. Do you think they have ever been around anything black that they view as adequate, starting with themselves? I don't realy trip on em anymore but they are intriguing individuals indeed.............." by Kevin41

....you misunderstood this. It is Caucasians who are drawing such a conclusion, that the integration of mixing Black children with theirs will reduce the quality of education for their offspring. Since they are the predominate source of financial and political influence within Culver City, they have that right. You can't make anyone accept you. Heck, you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make the horse drink!

.....It didn't happen in Inglewood, Ladera Heights, Fox Hills, Baldwin Hills, Compton (back in the day Compton used to be a working class Caucasian community), South Central Los Angeles, the San Fernando Valley, and it won't happen in Culver City. Heck, history has shown that this is true. As Black people move in, Caucasians and their businesses move out, and shortly thereafter, Inglewood began to take on the charactistics of a Compton, a South Central Los Angeles, etc., etc.

If Black people expect such a rich and affluent lifestyle then they will have to bear the cross to promote the growth and development of the Black community.

Those who bear the cross wear the crown! Those who bear nothing come up empty.
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EP....Did you notive how the movement of black people into Culver City is referenced with reducing the quality of education for their own children? I really wonder what kind of black people have these cats really been exposed to. Do you think they have ever been around anything black that they view as adequate, starting with themselves? I don't realy trip on em anymore but they are intriguing individuals indeed..............


Interesting indeed. Like little cockroaches, or looking at a frozen caveman. Smile
...now speaking of self hatred....

....you misunderstood this. It is Caucasians who are drawing such a conclusion, that the integration of mixing Black children with theirs will reduce the quality of education for their offspring. Since they are the predominate source of financial and political influence within Culver City, they have that right. You can't make anyone accept you. Heck, you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make the horse drink!

.....It didn't happen in Inglewood, Ladera Heights, Fox Hills, Baldwin Hills, Compton (back in the day Compton used to be a working class Caucasian community), South Central Los Angeles, the San Fernando Valley, and it won't happen in Culver City. Heck, history has shown that this is true. As Black people move in, Caucasians and their businesses move out, and shortly thereafter, Inglewood began to take on the charactistics of a Compton, a South Central Los Angeles, etc., etc.

If Black people expect such a rich and affluent lifestyle then they will have to bear the cross to promote the growth and development of the Black community.

Those who bear the cross wear the crown! Those who bear nothing come up as empty as a misguided, Empty Purnata!
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...now speaking of self hatred....

....you misunderstood this. It is Caucasians who are drawing such a conclusion, that the integration of mixing Black children with theirs will reduce the quality of education for their offspring. Since they are the predominate source of financial and political influence within Culver City, they have that right.


So in affect, you are saying they have the right to de facto segregation? Also, where is your evidence that rich citizens are the "predominate source of financial and political influence"? You seem to think that anyone who is not rich is some sort of untermensch.

How do you feel about higher-scoring Black students purging lower-scoring White students out of colleges?

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You can't make anyone accept you. Heck, you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make the horse drink!


No, but they DO have to respect you and treat you fairly. That's what this country is built on.

What would you think if an affluent Black neighborhood did not want working-class White people moving into the neighborhood out of fear they will bring it down? Hmm??

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.....It didn't happen in Inglewood, Ladera Heights, Fox Hills, Baldwin Hills, Compton (back in the day Compton used to be a working class Caucasian community), South Central Los Angeles, the San Fernando Valley, and it won't happen in Culver City. Heck, history has shown that this is true. As Black people move in, Caucasians and their businesses move out, and shortly thereafter, Inglewood began to take on the charactistics of a Compton, a South Central Los Angeles, etc., etc.

If Black people expect such a rich and affluent lifestyle then they will have to bear the cross to promote the growth and development of the Black community.

Those who bear the cross wear the crown! Those who bear nothing come up as empty as a misguided, Empty Purnata!


Your bottom line is, you believe that Blacks are inherently inferior, and you believe that "poor people" are poor because they have bad lifestyles, and you believe everyone who is rich is rich because they "made it" on "self-effort". You believe that once you "make it", you can just live the good life, and push out anything that you believe "threatens" your "good life". You believe that Whites are rich because they have some sort of inherent "better ethic". You seem to ignore that most rich people are rich due to family inherentence, or became rich on the shoulders of others.


Your principles are downright alien to the spirit of a community. Your idealism is simply rationalizing greed. Foreign ideas to (real) democracy. Your ideology would better suit a hermit.

In that case, as a middle-class Black person, I should keep working-class Whites from integrating in my neighborhood.
"So in affect, you are saying they have the right to de facto segregation? Also, where is your evidence that rich citizens are the "predominate source of financial and political influence"? You seem to think that anyone who is not rich is some sort of untermensch.

How do you feel about higher-scoring Black students purging lower-scoring White students out of colleges?" by Empty Purnata

....with all your might Empty Purnata, I'm willing to bet, neither you, or the affluent Black residents of Ladera Heights, are going to make Caucasians give up their position in the Culver City public schools for your kids, kick their offspring to the curb, give up freely everything they have sacrificed or worked for, solely because you have chosen to desert your own community.

If I lived to be one thousand years old, such an endeavor would not become a reality. Get busy Empty Purnata. Time is of the essense. Heck, reparations for slavery has yet to happen, and this is also a mission impossible!

I'm not going to waste my time this way, because I choose to acquire, work for, earn, and hold control over all my assets. I intend to make it very difficult for anyone to violate my property rights. By the same token, to unlawfully violate another individual's property rights, would not be in my best interest.

By the same token, let anyone attempt to infringe upon my property rights, domain, etc., etc., and the fight is on. Just like the Caucasian holders of assets, and/or the predominately Caucasian controlled Culver City Public School system, I intend to protect my property rights, and/or anyone within my circle of influence with any inclusive vested interest.

Heck, the affluent Black Ladera Heights residents have little if any vested interest, and/or legal claim to exert their influence over the Culver City Public School system. The use of finite valuable resources would be better served to uplift the Black community. It would be very counter-productive to think that you have the right to push your weight around to move someone out of the way, to make room for yourself.
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....with all your might Empty Purnata, I'm willing to bet, neither you, or the affluent Black residents of Ladera Heights, are going to make Caucasians give up their position in the Culver City public schools for you kids, kick their offspring to the curb, give up freely everything they have sacrificed or worked for, solely because you have chosen to desert your own community.


1) It's "White", not "Caucasian". "Caucasian" is a common misnomer, it's an ethno-geographical category that is indicative of Central Asians, Semites and Eastern Europeans. Calling Anglos "Caucasian" is like calling Asians "Orients".

2) I'm 19, so I don't have kids yet. Smile

3) Let me make this clear, my family did not get where it was by the "sacrifice of Caucasians". My parents grew up working-class (my dad was straight-out poor) in Mississippi. I and my siblings grew up working-class and my parents eventually made it to being "middle-class" by going back to school while holding down 2 jobs. Our lifestyle is not the benefit of some "handout" or that "everything they have sacrificed or worked for, solely because you have chosen to desert your own community" bullshit you just sputtered. The only people who sacrificed anything were US, not rich White people who gave us some kind of "permission" or "allowance" to move up.

Now, in my hometown in Mississippi, the Black citizens who are the majorit workers in the town are being pushed out by rich White people moving in, and investors (gentrification). Now, why should the Black citizens who have sacrificed be kicked out?

Bottom line, if rich Whites can push out poor Blacks, then rich Blacks can push out poor Whites. I don't need White people, they did not sacrifice a damn thing so that I got where I am today (and I plan to work hard to make an even better life for myself).

If poor Blacks depend upon "favors" from rich Whites, then poor Whites can depend upon "favors" from rich Blacks.

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If I lived to be one thousand years old, it would not happen. Get busy Empty Purnata, time is of the essense.


Sure, already way ahead of you. Wink My parents bought this nice house from former White owners who were getting too poor to afford to pay for it anymore. They now live in a working-class neighborhood, while we OWN (they only rented) this nice suburban house. My parents bought it for $120,000, now its value has gone up to $540,000.

Wink

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I'm not going to waste my time this way, because I choose to acquire and earn my assets, and know that an attempt to run over another's property rights, would not be in my best interest. By same token, let anyone attempt to infringe upon mine, and the fight is on!


Ever heard of Eminent Domain?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eminent_domain

I you believe that myth that you can't be deprived of property in a Capitalistic society, then you are living in a dream world, brother.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gentrification

Now you may not want to run over the "assets of others", but apparently, your goverment has no problem taking the property and assets of the poor and from Minorities.

You only get angry if rich Whites are "discomforted".
Fools are born everyday. I'm aware of eminent domain, and even here, the government must compensate the owner for the use, and/or take over, of private property. This is the beauty of the U.S., where the people rule, and not agents and officials of government. This again, is the perversion of the Black community, where the people in our own misguided Black people, allow agents and officials of government to rule any Black community.

"Now you may not want to run over the "assets of others", but apparently, your goverment has no problem taking the property and assets of the poor and from Minorities" by Empty Purnata

....and when this happens it is because of the weaknesses that exist with our own legal community, and/or our own inept treasonous elected officials. In the U.S. the people hold the power and not agents and officials of government. The American Revolution evolved from individuals. The birth of the U.S. is founded upon individuals, who rebelled against the atrocities of the British government to violate the common citizen. In many proven instances our own leadership are a disgrace for not standing tall, having backbone, using the tools of government to protect the rights of the underclass, the poor, Black property owners, etc., etc.

.....I'm willing to bet, now that you've interjected eminent domain, that should the Ladera Heights affluent Black residents attempt to make use of such a method, as it pertains to taking control of Culver City private or public property, through eminent domain, they will meet resistance never seen before, in litigation, and/or the ultimate, meaning a unified armed response from Caucasians, Hispanics, Koreans, etc., and/or perhaps even current Culver City Black residents, who intend to protect their own vested interests from any intruder.
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Fools are born everyday. I'm aware of eminent domain, and even here, the government must compensate the owner for the use, and/or take over, of private property. This is the beauty of the U.S., where the people rule, and not agents and officials of government. This again, is the perversion of the Black community, where the people in our own misguided Black people, allow agents and officials of government to rule any Black community.


Now, how does people having their land taken away by the GOD-VERMENT have anything to do with popular rule? Who does this aid? How is that any different from Stalinist collectivism?

This is not a perversion of the Black Community (do you consider being poor and being unable to defend yourself against goverment tyranny a "crime"?). This is a perversion created by the White Establishment (especially Republicans) who support and aid a tyrannical goverment:

http://www.commondreams.org/views05/1128-24.htm


Make no mistake, Eminent Domain has NOTHING to do with with the "will of the people". It is the will of the goverment to take property to benefit the goverment.

Our corporate structure is leaning towards Fascism.

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.....I'm willing to bet, now that you've interjected eminent domain, that should the Ladera Heights affluent Black residents attempt to make use of such a method, as it pertains to taking control of Culver City private or public property, through eminent domain, they will meet resistance never seen before, in litigation, and/or the ultimate, meaning an unified armed response from Caucasians, Hispanics, Koreans, etc., and/or perhaps even current Culver City Black residents, who intend to protect their own vested interests from any intruder.


I wouldn't be surprised. You see it all the time:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_flight

Also, while we are at it, the largest group of people on welfare are White females:

http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1077/is_n2_v48/ai_12970819
"I'm aware of eminent domain, and even here, the government must compensate the owner for the use, and/or take over, of private property. This is the beauty of the U.S., where the people rule, and not agents and officials of government. This again, is the perversion of the Black community, where the people in our own misguided Black people, allow agents and officials of government to rule any Black community." by Michael Lofton

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"Make no mistake, Eminent Domain has NOTHING to do with with the "will of the people". It is the will of the goverment to take property to benefit the goverment.

Our corporate structure is leaning towards Fascism." by Empty Purnata

"Sec. 8. No person shall be held to answer for a capital or otherwise infamous crime, (except in cases of impeachment, and in cases of militia when in actual service, and the land naval forces in time of war, or which this State may keep with the consent of Congress in time of peace, and in cases of petit larceny under the regulation of the Legislature) unless on presentment or indictment of a grand jury; and in any trial in any court whatever, the party accused shall be allowed to appear and defend in person and with counsel, as in civil actions. No person shall be subject to be twice put jeopardy for the same offence; nor shall he be compelled, in any criminal case, to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use without just compensation and excerpt from the California Constitution, the Supreme Law of the State of California.



....and the misguided response of an Empty Purnata, is why I choose to speak for myself as opposed to having an Empty Purnata, and/or that misguided spineless and treasonous Black middle class represent or speak for me.
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Originally posted by Michael:
"I'm aware of eminent domain, and even here, the government must compensate the owner for the use, and/or take over, of private property. This is the beauty of the U.S., where the people rule, and not agents and officials of government. This again, is the perversion of the Black community, where the people in our own misguided Black people, allow agents and officials of government to rule any Black community." by Michael Lofton

vs.

"Make no mistake, Eminent Domain has NOTHING to do with with the "will of the people". It is the will of the goverment to take property to benefit the goverment.

Our corporate structure is leaning towards Fascism." by Empty Purnata

....and the misguided response of an Empty Purnata, is why I choose to speak for myself as opposed to having an Empty Purnata, and/or that misguided spineless and treasonous Black middle class represent or speak for me.


http://africanamerica.org/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/79160213/m/8691091853

Which is why I choose to be my own representative and why I choose to stay with the facts rather than allow Michael Lofton and other Black Conservatives to be my spokespersons, and why I rely on reality rather than Republican/Conservative/Libertarian pipe-dreaming/mythology.
....same response, the response being.....

"I'm aware of eminent domain, and even here, the government must compensate the owner for the use, and/or take over, of private property. This is the beauty of the U.S., where the people rule, and not agents and officials of government. This again, is the perversion of the Black community, where the people in our own misguided Black people, allow agents and officials of government to rule any Black community." by Michael Lofton

vs.

"Make no mistake, Eminent Domain has NOTHING to do with with the "will of the people". It is the will of the goverment to take property to benefit the goverment.

Our corporate structure is leaning towards Fascism." by Empty Purnata

"Sec. 8. No person shall be held to answer for a capital or otherwise infamous crime, (except in cases of impeachment, and in cases of militia when in actual service, and the land naval forces in time of war, or which this State may keep with the consent of Congress in time of peace, and in cases of petit larceny under the regulation of the Legislature) unless on presentment or indictment of a grand jury; and in any trial in any court whatever, the party accused shall be allowed to appear and defend in person and with counsel, as in civil actions. No person shall be subject to be twice put jeopardy for the same offence; nor shall he be compelled, in any criminal case, to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use without just compensation" an excerpt from the California Constitution, the Supreme Law of the State of California.

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"Amendment V

No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a grand jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the militia, when in actual service in time of war or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use without just compensation." an excerpt from the U.S. Constitution, the U.S. Constitution being the Supreme Law of the U.S.


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....and the misguided response of an Empty Purnata, is why I choose to speak for myself as opposed to having an Empty Purnata, and/or that misguided spineless and treasonous Black middle class represent or speak for me.
quote:
Originally posted by Michael:
....same response, the response being.....

"I'm aware of eminent domain, and even here, the government must compensate the owner for the use, and/or take over, of private property. This is the beauty of the U.S., where the people rule, and not agents and officials of government. This again, is the perversion of the Black community, where the people in our own misguided Black people, allow agents and officials of government to rule any Black community." by Michael Lofton

vs.

"Make no mistake, Eminent Domain has NOTHING to do with with the "will of the people". It is the will of the goverment to take property to benefit the goverment.

Our corporate structure is leaning towards Fascism." by Empty Purnata

"Sec. 8. No person shall be held to answer for a capital or otherwise infamous crime, (except in cases of impeachment, and in cases of militia when in actual service, and the land naval forces in time of war, or which this State may keep with the consent of Congress in time of peace, and in cases of petit larceny under the regulation of the Legislature) unless on presentment or indictment of a grand jury; and in any trial in any court whatever, the party accused shall be allowed to appear and defend in person and with counsel, as in civil actions. No person shall be subject to be twice put jeopardy for the same offence; nor shall he be compelled, in any criminal case, to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use without just compensation" an excerpt from the California Constitution, the Supreme Law of the State of California.

"Amendment V

No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a grand jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the militia, when in actual service in time of war or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use without just compensation." and excerpt from the U.S. Constitution, the U.S. Constitution being the Supreme Law of the U.S.


....and the misguided response of an Empty Purnata, is why I choose to speak for myself as opposed to having an Empty Purnata, and/or that misguided spineless and treasonous Black middle class represent or speak for me.


You need to learn to seperate rhetoric from reality:

http://www.theunion.com/article/20051222/OPINION/112220065
"Sec. 8. No person shall be held to answer for a capital or otherwise infamous crime, (except in cases of impeachment, and in cases of militia when in actual service, and the land naval forces in time of war, or which this State may keep with the consent of Congress in time of peace, and in cases of petit larceny under the regulation of the Legislature) unless on presentment or indictment of a grand jury; and in any trial in any court whatever, the party accused shall be allowed to appear and defend in person and with counsel, as in civil actions. No person shall be subject to be twice put jeopardy for the same offence; nor shall he be compelled, in any criminal case, to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use without just compensation" an excerpt from the California Constitution, the Supreme Law of the State of California.

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"Amendment V.

No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation. taken from the U.S. Constitution, the Supreme Law of the Land


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again, I don't follow or take advice from misguided and spineless individuals.

....and the misguided response of an Empty Purnata, is why I choose to speak for myself as opposed to having an Empty Purnata, and/or that misguided spineless and treasonous Black middle class represent or speak for me.
"Sec. 8. No person shall be held to answer for a capital or otherwise infamous crime, (except in cases of impeachment, and in cases of militia when in actual service, and the land naval forces in time of war, or which this State may keep with the consent of Congress in time of peace, and in cases of petit larceny under the regulation of the Legislature) unless on presentment or indictment of a grand jury; and in any trial in any court whatever, the party accused shall be allowed to appear and defend in person and with counsel, as in civil actions. No person shall be subject to be twice put jeopardy for the same offence; nor shall he be compelled, in any criminal case, to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use without just compensation" an excerpt from the California Constitution, the Supreme Law of the State of California.

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"Amendment V.

No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation. taken from the U.S. Constitution, the Supreme Law of the Land


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again, I don't follow or take advice from misguided, un-American, Marxist, and/or spineless individuals.

....and the misguided response of an Empty Purnata, is why I choose to speak for myself as opposed to having an Empty Purnata, and/or that misguided spineless and treasonous Black middle class represent or speak for me
quote:
Originally posted by Michael:
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again, I don't follow or take advice from misguided, un-American, Marxist, and/or spineless individuals.


1) I'm not a Marxist
2) How am I "un-American"? Gee, you are really starting to sound like Joe McCarthy. If anyone is un-American, it is YOU:

quote:
Originally posted by Michael:
.....It didn't happen in Inglewood, Ladera Heights, Fox Hills, Baldwin Hills, Compton (back in the day Compton used to be a working class Caucasian community), South Central Los Angeles, the San Fernando Valley, and it won't happen in Culver City. Heck, history has shown that this is true. As Black people move in, Caucasians and their businesses move out, and shortly thereafter, Inglewood began to take on the charactistics of a Compton, a South Central Los Angeles, etc., etc.

If Black people expect such a rich and affluent lifestyle then they will have to bear the cross to promote the growth and development of the Black community.

Those who bear the cross wear the crown! Those who bear nothing come up as empty as a misguided, Empty Purnata!



quote:
Originally posted by Empty Purnata:
Your principles are downright alien to the spirit of a community. Your idealism is simply rationalizing greed. Foreign ideas to (real) democracy. Your ideology would better suit a hermit.


And again, the reality:

http://www.theunion.com/article/20051222/OPINION/112220065

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gentrification


The REALITY behind the MYTHS and RHETORIC of Establishment, Status-Quo-protecting sleaze.

quote:
....and the misguided response of an Empty Purnata, is why I choose to speak for myself as opposed to having an Empty Purnata, and/or that misguided spineless and treasonous Black middle class represent or speak for me


....and the misguided response of a Michael Lofton, is why I choose to speak for myself as opposed to having a Michael Lofto, and/or that misguided, spineless and treasonous Black Conservative "intellectual" cabal represent or speak for me.
"....and the misguided response of a Michael Lofton, is why I choose to speak for myself as opposed to having a Michael Lofto, and/or that misguided, spineless and treasonous Black Conservative "intellectual" cabal represent or speak for me." by Empty Purnata

.....Since I'm a property owner, it matters not whether I'm a Democrat, Republican, Liberal, Conservative, Atheist, or otherwise...

.....this information is still valid.

"Sec. 8. No person shall be held to answer for a capital or otherwise infamous crime, (except in cases of impeachment, and in cases of militia when in actual service, and the land naval forces in time of war, or which this State may keep with the consent of Congress in time of peace, and in cases of petit larceny under the regulation of the Legislature) unless on presentment or indictment of a grand jury; and in any trial in any court whatever, the party accused shall be allowed to appear and defend in person and with counsel, as in civil actions. No person shall be subject to be twice put jeopardy for the same offence; nor shall he be compelled, in any criminal case, to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use without just compensation" an excerpt from the California Constitution, the Supreme Law of the State of California.

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"Amendment V.

No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation. taken from the U.S. Constitution, the Supreme Law of the Land


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again, I don't follow or take advice from misguided, un-American, Marxist, and/or spineless individuals.

"....and the misguided response of a Michael Lofton, is why I choose to speak for myself as opposed to having a Michael Lofto, and/or that misguided, spineless and treasonous Black Conservative "intellectual" cabal represent or speak for me." by Empty Purnata

....and the misguided response of an Empty Purnata, such as referenced above is useless, meaningless, childish, worthless, can't be used in a court of law, and it won't enable anyone to protect their property rights. Again, this why I choose to speak for myself as opposed to having an Empty Purnata, and/or that misguided spineless and treasonous Black middleclass represent or speak for me.

Sincerely,

Michael Lofton
quote:
Originally posted by Michael:
.....Since I'm a property owner, it matters not whether I'm a Democrat, Republican, Liberal, Conservative, Atheist, or otherwise...

.....this information is still valid.


No it isn't, it's rhetoric not based in fact. You know as well as I do that the goverment ignores many laws for its own benefit.


quote:
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again, I don't follow or take advice from misguided, un-American, Marxist, and/or spineless individuals.


again, I don't follow or take advice from misguided, un-American, Fascist, and/or spineless individuals (especially Black Neoconservatives).

quote:
....and the misguided response of an Empty Purnata, such as referenced above is useless, meaningless, childish, worthless, can't be used in a court of law, and it won't enable anyone to protect their property rights. Again, this why I choose to speak for myself as opposed to having an Empty Purnata, and/or that misguided spineless and treasonous Black middleclass represent or speak for me.

Sincerely,

Michael Lofton


....and the misguided response of a Michael Lofton such as referenced above is useless, meaningless, childish, worthless, can't be used in a court of law, and it won't enable anyone to protect their financial/constitutional/social/democratic rights. Again, this why I choose to speak for myself as opposed to having a Michael Lofton, and/or that misguided spineless and treasonous Black-faced Neocon represent or speak for me. I'd rather make my own destiny than have Black-faced lackeys who are here to protect the White Establishment and keep the Black Community under-foot of oppression and hopelessnes/reliance on "White Superiority" paradigm.

Sincerely,

Empty Purnata
....and the misguided response of a Michael Lofton such as referenced above is useless, meaningless, childish, worthless, can't be used in a court of law, and it won't enable anyone to protect their financial/constitutional/social/democratic rights. Again, this why I choose to speak for myself as opposed to having a Michael Lofton, and/or that misguided spineless and treasonous Black-faced Neocon represent or speak for me. I'd rather make my own destiny than have Black-faced lackeys who are here to protect the White Establishment and keep the Black Community under-foot of oppression and hopelessnes/reliance on "White Superiority" paradigm." by Empty Purnata

.....Since I'm a property owner, it matters not whether I'm a Democrat, Republican, Liberal, Conservative, Atheist, or otherwise...

.....this information is still valid.

"Sec. 8. No person shall be held to answer for a capital or otherwise infamous crime, (except in cases of impeachment, and in cases of militia when in actual service, and the land naval forces in time of war, or which this State may keep with the consent of Congress in time of peace, and in cases of petit larceny under the regulation of the Legislature) unless on presentment or indictment of a grand jury; and in any trial in any court whatever, the party accused shall be allowed to appear and defend in person and with counsel, as in civil actions. No person shall be subject to be twice put jeopardy for the same offence; nor shall he be compelled, in any criminal case, to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use without just compensation" an excerpt from the California Constitution, the Supreme Law of the State of California.

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"Amendment V.

No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation. taken from the U.S. Constitution, the Supreme Law of the Land


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.....again, I don't follow or take advice from misguided, un-American, Marxist, and/or spineless individuals.

....and the misguided response of a Michael Lofton such as referenced above is useless, meaningless, childish, worthless, can't be used in a court of law, and it won't enable anyone to protect their financial/constitutional/social/democratic rights. Again, this why I choose to speak for myself as opposed to having a Michael Lofton, and/or that misguided spineless and treasonous Black-faced Neocon represent or speak for me. I'd rather make my own destiny than have Black-faced lackeys who are here to protect the White Establishment and keep the Black Community under-foot of oppression and hopelessnes/reliance on "White Superiority" paradigm." by Empty Purnata

....and the misguided response of an Empty Purnata, such as referenced above is useless, meaningless, childish, worthless, can't be used in a court of law, and it won't enable anyone to protect their property rights. Again, this why I choose to speak for myself as opposed to having an Empty Purnata, and/or that misguided spineless and treasonous Black middleclass represent or speak for me.

Sincerely,

Michael Lofton
".....be it Democrat, Republican, Independent, Green Party, or otherwise.....

.....the Black community is being looked upon as being insignificant, perverted, criminal, sleazy, wreckless, backwards, un-American, treasonous, self destructive, poverty stricken, social welfare dependent, bigotted, lazy, hateful, uncaring, selfish, useless, begging, continuously playing the race card, etc.,......

......an outlook that has more to do with a ethnic group's financial status, holdings, consumer spending power, business ownership, competency, criminal tendency, attitude, etc....

....than racism....." by Michael Lofton


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When the information is valid, then it matters not whether one individual views the material, or a world of individuals.

.....In a nation such as the U.S., any property owner, and it matters not whether I'm a Democrat, Republican, Liberal, Conservative, Atheist, or otherwise...

.....this information is still valid.

"Sec. 8. No person shall be held to answer for a capital or otherwise infamous crime, (except in cases of impeachment, and in cases of militia when in actual service, and the land naval forces in time of war, or which this State may keep with the consent of Congress in time of peace, and in cases of petit larceny under the regulation of the Legislature) unless on presentment or indictment of a grand jury; and in any trial in any court whatever, the party accused shall be allowed to appear and defend in person and with counsel, as in civil actions. No person shall be subject to be twice put jeopardy for the same offence; nor shall he be compelled, in any criminal case, to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use without just compensation" an excerpt from the California Constitution, the Supreme Law of the State of California.

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"Amendment V.

No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation. taken from the U.S. Constitution, the Supreme Law of the Land


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.....again, I don't follow or take advice from misguided, un-American, Marxist, and/or spineless individuals.

Again, this why I choose to speak for myself as opposed to having an Empty Purnata, and/or that misguided spineless and treasonous Black middleclass represent or speak for me.

Sincerely,

Michael Lofton
".....To all viewers, the facts stand, the rhetoric is disregarded as the trash. Those who are truly concerned about the Community, can see the facts. Those concerned about their wallet and no one else's, and concerned with gaining the approval of racists and those wish to hold down the Community, can absorb useless rhetoric..

Truth prevails in the end." by Empty Purnata


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".....be it Democrat, Republican, Independent, Green Party, or otherwise.....

.....the Black community is being looked upon as being insignificant, perverted, criminal, sleazy, wreckless, backwards, un-American, treasonous, self destructive, poverty stricken, social welfare dependent, bigotted, lazy, hateful, uncaring, selfish, useless, begging, continuously playing the race card, etc.,......

......an outlook that has more to do with a ethnic group's financial status, holdings, consumer spending power, business ownership, competency, criminal tendency, attitude, etc....

....than racism....." by Michael Lofton


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When the information is valid, then it matters not whether one individual views the material, or a world of individuals.

.....In a nation such as the U.S., any property owner, and it matters not whether I'm a Democrat, Republican, Liberal, Conservative, Atheist, or otherwise...

.....this information is still valid.

"Sec. 8. No person shall be held to answer for a capital or otherwise infamous crime, (except in cases of impeachment, and in cases of militia when in actual service, and the land naval forces in time of war, or which this State may keep with the consent of Congress in time of peace, and in cases of petit larceny under the regulation of the Legislature) unless on presentment or indictment of a grand jury; and in any trial in any court whatever, the party accused shall be allowed to appear and defend in person and with counsel, as in civil actions. No person shall be subject to be twice put jeopardy for the same offence; nor shall he be compelled, in any criminal case, to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use without just compensation" an excerpt from the California Constitution, the Supreme Law of the State of California.

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"Amendment V.

No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation. taken from the U.S. Constitution, the Supreme Law of the Land


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.....again, I don't follow or take advice from misguided, un-American, Marxist, and/or spineless individuals.

Again, this why I choose to speak for myself as opposed to having an Empty Purnata, and/or that misguided spineless and treasonous Black middleclass represent or speak for me.

Sincerely,

Michael Lofton
"There is nothing else for me to say, the facts are on the table. You can continue to talk to yourself if you wish."

....you haven't stated anything that is worthwhile or valid yet, thus there is nothing you can bring to the table!

...thus....

".....To all viewers, the facts stand, the rhetoric is disregarded as the trash. Those who are truly concerned about the Community, can see the facts. Those concerned about their wallet and no one else's, and concerned with gaining the approval of racists and those wish to hold down the Community, can absorb useless rhetoric..

Truth prevails in the end." by Empty Purnata


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".....be it Democrat, Republican, Independent, Green Party, or otherwise.....

.....the Black community is being looked upon as being insignificant, perverted, criminal, sleazy, wreckless, backwards, un-American, treasonous, self destructive, poverty stricken, social welfare dependent, bigotted, lazy, hateful, uncaring, selfish, useless, begging, continuously playing the race card, etc.,......

......an outlook that has more to do with a ethnic group's financial status, holdings, consumer spending power, business ownership, competency, criminal tendency, attitude, etc....

....than racism....." by Michael Lofton


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When the information is valid, then it matters not whether one individual views the material, or a world of individuals.

.....In a nation such as the U.S., any property owner, and it matters not whether I'm a Democrat, Republican, Liberal, Conservative, Atheist, or otherwise...

.....this information is still valid.

"Sec. 8. No person shall be held to answer for a capital or otherwise infamous crime, (except in cases of impeachment, and in cases of militia when in actual service, and the land naval forces in time of war, or which this State may keep with the consent of Congress in time of peace, and in cases of petit larceny under the regulation of the Legislature) unless on presentment or indictment of a grand jury; and in any trial in any court whatever, the party accused shall be allowed to appear and defend in person and with counsel, as in civil actions. No person shall be subject to be twice put jeopardy for the same offence; nor shall he be compelled, in any criminal case, to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use without just compensation" an excerpt from the California Constitution, the Supreme Law of the State of California.

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"Amendment V.

No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation. taken from the U.S. Constitution, the Supreme Law of the Land


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.....again, I don't follow or take advice from misguided, un-American, Marxist, and/or spineless individuals.

Again, this why I choose to speak for myself as opposed to having an Empty Purnata, and/or that misguided spineless and treasonous Black middleclass represent or speak for me.

Sincerely,

Michael Lofton
1) Michael, I agree with you that the Black
middle-class should take a stronger hand in improving the lower-class areas.

2) In response to an earlier statement, East Los Angeles is far from "thriving". Most of the population consists of poor illegals. If they are thriving, it's only in the sense that they are receiving free food stamps, welfare, medical care, and education--not the kind of pull-yourself-up-by-your-bootstraps "success" you had in mind.

3) Since Ladera Heights only consists of 8000 people, I don't think they are able to become their own insulated school district. This would be the best scenario, though; all of the resources and affluence would stay within their community, and perhaps even entice other well-to-do Blacks into the area. This in turn, would raise property values, stimulate more economic growth in the form of commercial businesses to serve the community, which in turn would create even more money and resources for the school district. In two decades, Ladera Heights could go from unincoporated to its own corporated town with Los Angeles County.
(1) Michael, I agree with you that the Black
middle-class should take a stronger hand in improving the lower-class areas.

2) In response to an earlier statement, East Los Angeles is far from "thriving". Most of the population consists of poor illegals. If they are thriving, it's only in the sense that they are receiving free food stamps, welfare, medical care, and education--not the kind of pull-yourself-up-by-your-bootstraps "success" you had in mind.

3) Since Ladera Heights only consists of 8000 people, I don't think they are able to become their own insulated school district. This would be the best scenario, though; all of the resources and affluence would stay within their community, and perhaps even entice other well-to-do Blacks into the area. This in turn, would raise property values, stimulate more economic growth in the form of commercial businesses to serve the community, which in turn would create even more money and resources for the school district. In two decades, Ladera Heights could go from unincoporated to its own corporated town with Los Angeles County." by UppityNegress

Heck, in comparison with South Central Los Angeles, East Los Angeles is thriving. There is a big difference between Los Angeles County Supervisor Los Angeles Gloria Molina's district which includes East Los Angeles and no good "Brentwood Burke's district that includes South Central Los Angeles, Compton, Watts, etc.

Carpet-bagging no good in violation of the Los Angeles County Charter 2nd District Los Angeles County Supervisor "Brentwood Burke", no good former Congressman now assemblyman serving foreign interests Merv Dymally, caught with his pants down while having lewd sex with a prostitute no good carpet-bagging Kevin Murray, Congresswoman Maxine "Kerosene" Waters, missing in inaction Congresswoman Diane Watson, etc., have yet to competently serve the residents of South Los Angeles, Compton, Watts, Inglewood, etc., etc.

These misfit elected representatives from the Black community, did not serve South Los Angeles, Compton, Watts, and/or Inglewood when these areas were predominately Black, which is also a big reason as to why many Black people are leaving the area, have left the area, are losing property without just cause due to the atrocities of government, and/or many have unearned misdemeanor and/or felony criminal records, all while our no good Black elected leaders play games when petitioned for redress.


Supervisor Gloria Molina, and most any Hispanic take every opportunity to hold govenment accountable when the Hispanic community is violated. Hispanics be it lawful or felon pursued redress in the Rampart Scandal, and the Killer/Butcher King atrocities. Mind you the Killer/Butcher King atrocities have been going on since the 70's to which many Black people who formerly lived in South Central Los Angeles and/or the few who remain continue to call Martin Luther King County Hospital, Killer/Butcher King. No good Brentwood Burke would like you to think or believe that she had no knowledge of this, that these atrocities are only recent occurances, namely because again our own leadership, the Los Angeles Sentinel, and/or the Black middleclass have failed. Typically, when petitioned for redress by Black people, our own Black elected officials play games, side with the perpetrators, recommend that the petitioner be fined, and/or may summons policing authorities to arrest the petitioner for having the gall to petition his or her elected representative to use his or her position of influence to seek redress for anyone victimized by the very serious criminal actions of agents and officials of government. This reality being said, there is a huge difference between any Black community, and the Hispanic community!

In addition, not only do the the Hispanics (be it legal, illegal, fast becoming U.S. citizens, and/or U.S. citizens control East Los Angeles, but they control much of South Central Los Angeles, Compton, Watts, and/or largely Inglewood, even though South Central Los Angeles, Watts, and Inglewood have misfit, treasonous, corrupt, deceitful, self-serving and/or many times criminal Black people who hold elected office.

With regard to Ladera Heights being a part of the Culver City School District, the article as published by the Los Angeles Times clearly states that the elected officials of Inglewood, the people of Inglewood, the residents of Culver City, and/or Culver City School District representatives are against such a move. Slim chance exists, where the residents of Ladera Heights will become a part of the Culver City School. In this instance the will of the majority rules, the majority being the citizens of Inglewood and Culver City.

Michael Lofton

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EP,

Some people do not want to be educated...but have the nerve to think I would want to waste my time on their dumbazz offspring......hell they say that they would never let me teach their kids...hell their kids would not be able to cut the mustard anyway....they would be uneducable just like their parents........it is amazing how people become comfortable with a certain level of ignorance...they do not even know it but their lives are over...they are not living...they are just existing.......sad indeed........
"Some people do not want to be educated...but have the nerve to think I would want to waste my time on their dumbazz offspring......hell they say that they would never let me teach their kids...hell their kids would not be able to cut the mustard anyway....they would be uneducable just like their parents........it is amazing how people become comfortable with a certain level of ignorance...they do not even know it but their lives are over...they are not living...they are just existing.......sad indeed........" by Kevin41

.....as if to say, that either I, or any associate would be interest in Kevin41's services. Heck, if his services were offered free of charge, there would be no interest in his services.

.....I choose not to hire or contract with anyone whose business is to promote false information, false information such as this misinformed and very erroneous information.

(ER)"She damn sure has a point...but I never thought blacks were that pathological in their thinking until I heard the larry elders, petersons, hamblins and other ragheads.....but I do think thst some of the people come in here as white posers to disrupt what would be otherwise a civil, productive dialogue. As so far as Lofton is concerned...i think white guy more and more each day...I do not think even self-hating black people have a problem with coming out and saying they are black themselves...and the mannerisms he displays are more like that nah nah na nah nah....shit as a kid where you stick out your tounge at someone.....that does not really come across as a black man's demeanor for the most part...it is more like the demeanor of an antagonistic white guy who is saying to himself....i sure got those niggas in a tizzy and i'm enjoying every minute of it.....just an observation....i could be wrong but each day it lends itself to appear that way...same with CF to a lesser degree....I just don't see black people as so self-hating that they cannot even fix their mouth to acknowledge the same behaviors in others they castigate blacks for....then I guess that would take the exclusivity to blacks they articulate f-ked up behavior patterns from......wow" by Kevin41

"I wonder if this guy Lofton would look over his shoulder in lilly white backwoods part of alabama at night if there were white guys walking behind him....lets see him really test his loyalty to those good ole white folks......." by Kevin41

....now I really have no reason to visit or relocate to the lilly white backwoods of Alabama or otherwise. Can't make any real money there, none of my relatives, or anyone I would want to visit lives there, so it would be pointless to make such a move or visit. Now if I were to make such a visit or move, my chances of survival would still be much greater than the risk of living in any predominately Black community.
Kevin,
Ignore him, he's spazzing out again. He needs his pills very badly. Big Grin

He's probably going to reply to this post by putting it in quotation marks, then repeating the same self-hating, White-worshipping rhetoric, word-for-word, verbatim and hyperlinking like crazy.

I really do think he is clinically insane. He once admitted he has mental problems, and he likes to repeat long diatribes several times over and over (sometimes even repeating posts he made months ago verbatim). Often times, his rhetoric is only vaguely related to the topic at hand, and it inevitably goes off into an odd tangent.

I think he believes he is standing on a podium addressing White America. I notice his posts are often formed like a speech, and he often types his sentences in the same way someone would sound making a speech, with carefully inserted, fluffy-sounding rhetoric, and strategically-placed exclamation marks and political-sounding promises.

He seems to be fond of saying things like, "I, Michael Lofton, will not stoop to the deaths of ...blah....blah....blah! Only those who are un-American and slezeful would ever support such foolishness. I shall not walk down that beaten path! Not I!"



Yeesh......what a creepy weirdo. He even tries to distance himself from us when he disagrees as if he believes White America is watching him, "On behalf of myself, I'd like to say to the world that, I, Michael Lofton, am not part of such nonsense. I do not let individuals such as these speak for myself. I am my own person and it is my resolve to not take the fool's path!"

Is he make-believing he's an online politician?

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