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Originally posted by shulamite:
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Originally posted by ShayaButHer:
LOL....I've been itchin for an excuse to use this next avatar, Kweli...so this new one is for you....


Shaya, I LOVE your avatar!!!!!! I am a bonified Trekkie and love Nichelle Nichols (Uhura)!!!!


(shulamite, who says appl to shayabuther's avatar...)


Why, thank you very much, Shula! One of my favorites on Star Trek (and I have a lot) is Eszree.....(pronounced ezzzz-ree)....

But I'm a Sci-Fi freak anyway!

"Wisdom Is A Woman Who Goes Where No Man's Gone!"
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Originally posted by ocatchings:
Why do people on the internet need a "button" to ignore someone? What do they push in real life whe dealing with a person face to face and someone pisses them off?
No disrespect to anyone that does use a button, but to me it seems like a cowardly way to handle a situation.


The *button* for me is a most accommodating convenience. Smile

It allows me to not have to scroll past or siff through paragraphs (or sometimes pages) of something I don't want to waste my time reading by somebody whose opinion I couldn't care less about.

In real life, I would probably have to miss out on the entire conversation altogether ... because I would *ignore* such a person by not putting myself in close proximity to them to hear what they have to say! Eek What makes the *button* better is that I can still read opinions of importance to me ... while blocking out those that for me are irrelevant!

Now ... let me add that on a general level ... I think that most intellectual folks are compelled to read what's put in front of them ... especially on a subject of interest to them.

Unfortunately, on a message board (your idea of) *stupidness* can just get thrown into the middle of an interesting subject and derail the whole conversation! Eek I think having the option to block out *stupid* is probably why a lot of people use the *ignore* feature.

Again ... I see it more as convenience ... than avoidance. But that's just me! Big Grin
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Originally posted by Kweli4Real:
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I am a bonified Trekkie !!!


"... But he is Black on the right side ..."

President Lincoln: "... You are a fine nigress ... Oh, did I say something that in your future offends?"

Kweli reflecting on his favorite episodes ...


Wow. You have a good memory, Kweli! Yes, those were good episodes.

But one that hurts my heart is when the crew were on a planet of "shakespearean" courtisans and forced to act out scenes. They made Kirk and Uhura kiss (the first televised interracial kiss, so of course it had to be forced). But after the kiss, they made Kirk beat Uhura with a whip, effectively punishing HER (to the TV audience) for making him go there. 6 6 6


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Gene Roddenberry was very progressive nonetheless and tried a lot to do away with prejudices. The Klingons were black. The Romulans were communists. And each had a valid place in the story line wrt their interests.

Not to mention that he did pull off the 1st interracial kiss.

And Nichelle Nichols? Well, she was Roddenberry's long time mistress (while his own wife was on the show ek)!

So, Roddenberry was into the chocolate swirl!
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Originally posted by ShayaButHer:
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Originally posted by shulamite:
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Originally posted by ShayaButHer:
LOL....I've been itchin for an excuse to use this next avatar, Kweli...so this new one is for you....


Shaya, I LOVE your avatar!!!!!! I am a bonified Trekkie and love Nichelle Nichols (Uhura)!!!!


(shulamite, who says appl to shayabuther's avatar...)


Why, thank you very much, Shula! One of my favorites on Star Trek (and I have a lot) is Eszree.....(pronounced ezzzz-ree)....

But I'm a Sci-Fi freak anyway!

"Wisdom Is A Woman Who Goes Where No Man's Gone!"


Live long and prosper ladies! I'm so happy to know other Black female Trekkies!

"The Borg do not evolve, they conquer. -Data"
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Originally posted by shulamite:
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Originally posted by Oshun Auset:
Live long and prosper ladies! I'm so happy to know other Black female Trekkies!


Woohoo! cabbage

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Originally posted by Oshun Auset:
"The Borg do not evolve, they conquer. -Data"


lol That was a great line!


Wink And my fav from the movies...

Admiral Matthew Dougherty: "Jean-Luc, we're only moving 600 people."

Captain Picard: "How many people does it take, Admiral, before it becomes wrong? Hmm? A thousand, fifty thousand, a million? How many people does it take, Admiral?"

-Star Trek: Insurrection
on Battlestar Galactica: Do NOT discuss this last season. I couldn't watch it regularly and stopped entirely. After the DVDs come out and I watch it, then you can discuss. But any post that discusses the final season of BSG will immediately be reported in the "Offending Posts" thread MBM has set up. And I also will whoop dat azz.
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Originally posted by Vox:
on Battlestar Galactica: Do NOT discuss this last season. I couldn't watch it regularly and stopped entirely. After the DVDs come out and I watch it, then you can discuss. But any post that discusses the final season of BSG will immediately be reported in the "Offending Posts" thread MBM has set up. And I also will whoop dat azz.



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Well you need to get ta watchin' then! Damn, Vox! We ain't got time for you to lollygag around 'fo we discuss it! Donwload the episodes from Amazon Video On Demand. $2.00 per episode.

I just watched the series finale (2 hour finale) as a web episode last night. The graphics were out of this world unbelievable. And the storyline? You'll want to re-watch Season 1 to see the continuity. Ronald Moore pulled it together perfectly.


And.... boy, please. You can't whoop dis azz. Trust and believe that. 1

(shulamite, cheesin', duckin' and running'...)
Does Battlestar Galactica deal with real, i.e., controversial issues like Star Trek?

Another fav of mine was the episode where the crew was trapped in a "modern" day Rome where the empire had never fallen.

And a dissident group of Sun Worshippers was working with/hiding the crew.

At the end Uhura said the line: "This world will be okay. We thought they were worshipping the Sun, when in fact they are waiting for the son, S-O-N."
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Originally posted by Kweli4Real:
Does Battlestar Galactica deal with real, i.e., controversial issues like Star Trek?


Yes, it is not like the hokey original BG (and that wasn't too hokey, if you knew where they were going with it).

There are multiple arcs:

1. Monotheism v. (greek) polytheism with a good bit of Hinduism thrown in. Add some mathematical lines of code to it, and it's on!

2. Grittiness in terms of what life would really be like in space without all the PC utopian-ness of ST. Like fule shortages. Food shortages. Racism/Ethnic cleansing. What is acceptable torture (and it gets nasty). Issues of suicide. Equipment breaking down and folks getting accidently exposed to space. Human tehcnical error on equipment. Running out of clothes and medicine.

And (for me) what DO you do when your population drops to only 39,000 people? Do you throw down your guns and start making babies left and right? Or has your population gotten below a critical threshhold of (self) viability already? And it is all pointless to keep trying to build a future for your race?

3. Our dependence on machines and abuse of the tools we create.

4. Who is human? What does it really mean (functionally) to be human?


I think there is a lot for everybody. It is a LOT darker than the original BG. But the religious themes in the new one were consistent with (albeit more developed than) the old BG.
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Originally posted by shulamite:
Seriously, Vox, the entire Season 4 is ~$33 from Amazon Video on Demand. You can download it to your PC (burn it to DVD) and it's yours forever.

Just an FYI...
Now that I didn't not know. I'll get to it. Lucky for you.
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Originally posted by ocatchings:
Give me Babylon 5 any day!!!!!!! bow


Yeah, it's along the lines of Babylon 5 wrt to the grittiness and religious symbolism.

But a lot more "adult" with frak this, frak that and the raw sexuality. Babylon 5 was a bit more tame...
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Originally posted by Vox:
quote:
Originally posted by shulamite:
Seriously, Vox, the entire Season 4 is ~$33 from Amazon Video on Demand. You can download it to your PC (burn it to DVD) and it's yours forever.

Just an FYI...
Now that I didn't not know. I'll get to it. Lucky for you.


You still wouldn't be able to whoop my azz. Not even with a whole crew of Cylon centurions. Razz
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Originally posted by ShayaButHer:
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Originally posted by shulamite:
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Originally posted by ShayaButHer:
LOL....I've been itchin for an excuse to use this next avatar, Kweli...so this new one is for you....


Shaya, I LOVE your avatar!!!!!! I am a bonified Trekkie and love Nichelle Nichols (Uhura)!!!!


(shulamite, who says appl to shayabuther's avatar...)


Why, thank you very much, Shula! One of my favorites on Star Trek (and I have a lot) is Eszree.....(pronounced ezzzz-ree)....

But I'm a Sci-Fi freak anyway!

"Wisdom Is A Woman Who Goes Where No Man's Gone!"



Now if you would only add pointy ears and arched eyebrows to your avatar it would be on ...
quote:
Originally posted by shulamite:
quote:
Originally posted by Kweli4Real:
Does Battlestar Galactica deal with real, i.e., controversial issues like Star Trek?


Yes, it is not like the hokey original BG (and that wasn't too hokey, if you knew where they were going with it).

There are multiple arcs:

1. Monotheism v. (greek) polytheism with a good bit of Hinduism thrown in. Add some mathematical lines of code to it, and it's on!

2. Grittiness in terms of what life would really be like in space without all the PC utopian-ness of ST. Like fule shortages. Food shortages. Racism/Ethnic cleansing. What is acceptable torture (and it gets nasty). Issues of suicide. Equipment breaking down and folks getting accidently exposed to space. Human tehcnical error on equipment. Running out of clothes and medicine.

And (for me) what DO you do when your population drops to only 39,000 people? Do you throw down your guns and start making babies left and right? Or has your population gotten below a critical threshhold of (self) viability already? And it is all pointless to keep trying to build a future for your race?

3. Our dependence on machines and abuse of the tools we create.

4. Who is human? What does it really mean (functionally) to be human?


I think there is a lot for everybody. It is a LOT darker than the original BG. But the religious themes in the new one were consistent with (albeit more developed than) the old BG.


yeah... I haven't had the chance to watch every episode, but the ones I've caught are really good... I have a friend who burns it(and everything else) off of the internet. I will be borrowing it...
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Originally posted by Oshun Auset:
I haven't had the chance to watch every episode, but the ones I've caught are really good...


Oshun, if you know enough about the basic story, you should re-watch Season 1 (carefully), then Season 4. The finale is extremely neat in how it all wraps together.

And I'll stop there, cause I don't want to make Vox mad.
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Originally posted by shulamite:
quote:
Originally posted by Oshun Auset:
I haven't had the chance to watch every episode, but the ones I've caught are really good...


Oshun, if you know enough about the basic story, you should re-watch Season 1 (carefully), then Season 4. The finale is extremely neat in how it all wraps together.

And I'll stop there, cause I don't want to make Vox mad.


Thanks for the sugestion...

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Originally posted by shulamite:
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Originally posted by Raptor:
Though I'm still waiting for the hughes bros., singleton or whomever, to start making sci-fi movies, or shows, where we aren't the minority.



yeah


Won't that be nice...


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The Matrix series (and Firefly, I think) was written by an African-American.


Firefly... really? I'm surprised...
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Originally posted by shulamite:
The Matrix series (and Firefly, I think) was written by an African-American.


I heard that about matrix.

Firefly, you say? Cool!

....Now how'bout that disproportionately majority black cast of actors in a well written/directed/produced sci-fi movie or t.v. show?

I mean, it's as if 'we' can't even imagine ourselves living, thriving, in the year 6000 c.e. or something. Confused
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Originally posted by Raptor:
Firefly, you say? Cool


I *think*. I'm not sure...

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Originally posted by Raptor:
I mean, its as if 'we' can't even imagine ourselves living, thriving, in the year 6000 c.e. or something.



lol Naw... it's more like *they* can't imagine us living, thriving, in the year 6000 c.e. or something... That's probably incomprehensible to them and the studio PTB wouldn't let that leave the cutting room floor. 4


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Actually, I saw one sci fi movie (British, and relatively famous) that had three people left living on earth: a white man, white woman, and a black (really, Maori) man.

The white man killed himself to save the lives of the black man and the white woman (whom the black man had romantically taken from the white man). That was edgy!

And I ain't never seen nothin' like that since on a commercial medium...
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Originally posted by shulamite:
lol Naw... it's more like *they* can't imagine us living, thriving, in the year 6000 c.e. or something... 4


Tru'dat. tfro

However, I wonder if black folks, in the movie making business, had ever even made a push towards the sci-fi?

We've done, comedy, romance -you name it. We've done those categories and have done a great job at it, but sci-fi...we haven't really strolled down that avenue. So then what's the hold up?
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Originally posted by Raptor:
However, I wonder if black folks, in the movie making business, had ever even made a push towards the sci-fi?


Aww. C'mon. We have Brother From Another Planet. What are you complaining about??? 4

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Seriously, you're right. You'd think one black producer would have picked up one of Octavia Butler's or Walter Mosley's works by now. Butler is a standard in the sci fi literature world...
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Originally posted by EbonyRose:
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Originally posted by ocatchings:
Why do people on the internet need a "button" to ignore someone? What do they push in real life whe dealing with a person face to face and someone pisses them off?
No disrespect to anyone that does use a button, but to me it seems like a cowardly way to handle a situation.


The *button* for me is a most accommodating convenience. Smile

It allows me to not have to scroll past or siff through paragraphs (or sometimes pages) of something I don't want to waste my time reading by somebody whose opinion I couldn't care less about.

In real life, I would probably have to miss out on the entire conversation altogether ... because I would *ignore* such a person by not putting myself in close proximity to them to hear what they have to say! Eek What makes the *button* better is that I can still read opinions of importance to me ... while blocking out those that for me are irrelevant!

Now ... let me add that on a general level ... I think that most intellectual folks are compelled to read what's put in front of them ... especially on a subject of interest to them.

Unfortunately, on a message board (your idea of) *stupidness* can just get thrown into the middle of an interesting subject and derail the whole conversation! Eek I think having the option to block out *stupid* is probably why a lot of people use the *ignore* feature.

Again ... I see it more as convenience ... than avoidance. But that's just me! Big Grin

yeah But I don't understand the cowardly comment. It is not because I am scared or intimidated that someone goes on my ignore list. It is more that they have shown themselves to be not worth attending. I usually use it for people I find to be pathological imbeciles.
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Originally posted by kresge:
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Originally posted by EbonyRose:
quote:
Originally posted by ocatchings:
Why do people on the internet need a "button" to ignore someone? What do they push in real life whe dealing with a person face to face and someone pisses them off?
No disrespect to anyone that does use a button, but to me it seems like a cowardly way to handle a situation.


The *button* for me is a most accommodating convenience. Smile

It allows me to not have to scroll past or siff through paragraphs (or sometimes pages) of something I don't want to waste my time reading by somebody whose opinion I couldn't care less about.

In real life, I would probably have to miss out on the entire conversation altogether ... because I would *ignore* such a person by not putting myself in close proximity to them to hear what they have to say! Eek What makes the *button* better is that I can still read opinions of importance to me ... while blocking out those that for me are irrelevant!

Now ... let me add that on a general level ... I think that most intellectual folks are compelled to read what's put in front of them ... especially on a subject of interest to them.

Unfortunately, on a message board (your idea of) *stupidness* can just get thrown into the middle of an interesting subject and derail the whole conversation! Eek I think having the option to block out *stupid* is probably why a lot of people use the *ignore* feature.

Again ... I see it more as convenience ... than avoidance. But that's just me! Big Grin

yeah But I don't understand the cowardly comment. It is not because I am scared or intimidated that someone goes on my ignore list. It is more that they have shown themselves to be not worth attending. I usually use it for people I find to be pathological imbeciles.


I added
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No disrespect to anyone that does use a button, but to me it seems like a cowardly way to handle a situation.


But I probably could have found a better way to make my point without coming cross like I was personally attacking anyone.

I just find it interesting how on the board it's advertised and broadcast "hey, I'm putting you on my ignore list"
Outside of the internet, does a person advertise I'm ignoring you or do they just ignore the person? 19
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Originally posted by HonestBrother:
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Originally posted by ShayaButHer:
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Originally posted by shulamite:
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Originally posted by ShayaButHer:
LOL....I've been itchin for an excuse to use this next avatar, Kweli...so this new one is for you....


Shaya, I LOVE your avatar!!!!!! I am a bonified Trekkie and love Nichelle Nichols (Uhura)!!!!


(shulamite, who says appl to shayabuther's avatar...)


Why, thank you very much, Shula! One of my favorites on Star Trek (and I have a lot) is Eszree.....(pronounced ezzzz-ree)....

But I'm a Sci-Fi freak anyway!

"Wisdom Is A Woman Who Goes Where No Man's Gone!"



Now if you would only add pointy ears and arched eyebrows to your avatar it would be on ...


Okay, HB,

This one's for you....

hehehehehe....

"Wisdom Is A Woman Having Fun!"
Shula,

I've only seen a couple of episodes of BattleStar Galactica...

But I plan to catch the whole series soon! Did you know you could watch those episodes for free....I am trying to remember the site....something about Frog....lol.

I'll have to look into my links to get the exact name.

"Wisdom Is A Woman Of The Future!"
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I am trying to remember the site....something about Frog....


If the site is SpiralFrog, be careful ... I think I read that that site is landmined with viruses, at least on the music side.

But then again that might be a lie put out by artists looking to protect/collect their royalties. 19
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Originally posted by ocatchings:
Outside of the internet, does a person advertise I'm ignoring you or do they just ignore the person? 19


That's a good point. I haven't used the function for the reason you state above. If I choose to ignore a person online, I just do. There's no need (imo) to broadcast it.

Offline, depending on the relationship history, is a different story. I'd lean toward wanting to offer an explanation for the dissolution of the relationship. That's only fair.
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Originally posted by ShayaButHer:
I remember it now...

...it is Smelly Lizard!

The last time I checked, they had BattleStar episodes on it...let me look again...

Well, I just checked and their tv link seems to be off. There's nothing on the page!!!


Thanks, Shaya. You can watch BG for free at www.scifi.com (though the quality is poor and you can't download).

You can also buy episodes ($2.00/episode) from Amazon Video on Demand.

LOVE your new avatar with the ears! You're talented, sis!
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Originally posted by shulamite:
quote:
Originally posted by ShayaButHer:
I remember it now...

...it is Smelly Lizard!

The last time I checked, they had BattleStar episodes on it...let me look again...

Well, I just checked and their tv link seems to be off. There's nothing on the page!!!


Thanks, Shaya. You can watch BG for free at www.scifi.com (though the quality is poor and you can't download).

You can also buy episodes ($2.00/episode) from Amazon Video on Demand.

LOVE your new avatar with the ears! You're talented, sis!


Thanks, Shula! I will check it out! I have a friend who introduced me to BG some time last year.

....oh, and I can't take full credit for the avi, as I change her up ALL the time with "ready made" parts...LOL.

You should have seen her with rollers in her hair at the salon! LOL...

I LOVE that one!

"Wisdom Is A Woman Going To Play Some More!"
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Originally posted by ocatchings:
But I probably could have found a better way to make my point without coming cross like I was personally attacking anyone.

I just find it interesting how on the board it's advertised and broadcast "hey, I'm putting you on my ignore list"
Outside of the internet, does a person advertise I'm ignoring you or do they just ignore the person? 19


As to your point about "announcing it" or making reference to it.. or trying to subtly point it out (which always has me cracking up laughing).. that just sounds like passive aggressiveness masking insecurity...

It always reads like:

"I find myself valuable and I want you to think of me this way too... plus I want to get at you, but it's no fun if you don't KNOW I'm doing it" lolol laugh


I used to use it when I just couldn't stomach having to scroll past some amount of ignorance I knew would be there...

Now I just ignore it like I do in reality... or address a post when I find some relevance in it...

There are Christians that try to proselytize to me on the regular... whereas I used to go out of my way to either argue or avoid.. Now I just admit only the truth in their statement to keep the peace and move on...

"You're right Jesus' influence was certainly great.. take care..."

said on repeat to whatever they say! lol...

But don't you have Jesus in your life?

"You're right Jesus' influence was certainly great...'

Do you at least 'tend chuuuuuuch?

You're right Jesus' influence was certainly great....."


with increasing frustration:

You NEED JESUS!



You're right Jesus'...

you get the picture...


Reminds me of a saying stated to me... that you're truly over someone when you no longer give them so much of your energy.. In other words they don't irritate you any more.. you just feel sad for them.. and keep it moving...

It works for me.. It allows me to come across some of the true gems that may be said by anyone.. I can be an information junky sometimes... (you think?)

people aren't allll bad you know... and neither are their thoughts...


*tee hee*
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Originally posted by ocatchings:

I just find it interesting how on the board it's advertised and broadcast "hey, I'm putting you on my ignore list"
Outside of the internet, does a person advertise I'm ignoring you or do they just ignore the person? 19


I would think that in real life, ignoring somebody would be painfully obvious to all concerned with no *announcement* being necessary! The Internet - especially with regard to conversation - has definite limitations ... to which *real life* situations do not/cannot apply.

What I do find curious, though, is people that continue to address a person after they have been told they are being ignored. 19

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