The conspiracy theorist in me could not let this pass...

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Whether the aircraft that crashed into the Pentagon was Flight 77 is the subject of much question and controversy. Human remains of the people onboard Flight 77 were identified at Dover, but there is no public evidence that places the bodies at the Pentagon crash site.
The impact was 83 minutes after Flight 11 first went off course, and 58 minutes after the North Tower impact, and 40 minutes after the South Tower impact, yet the jet was not intercepted as it flew over the (normally) most heavily protected airspace in the United States, and in the world.
quote:IT'S AMAZING what lengths of irrationality people will go to just to avoid questioning their "reality".
quote:Originally posted by Frenchy:
Empty Purnata, did you read the links??? Because all of what you just said is clearly debunked. There are numerous photos of plane wreckage, pictures of the entry, an explanation of how it is exactly consistent with the dimensions of the plane, pictures of the damaged areas leading all the way up to the building, diagrams of how deep the plane penetrated, pictures from the first people on the scene, and explanation of the debris, and MUCH MORE.![]()
quote:Originally posted by Frenchy:
At a certain point, there is just no convincing people who want to hang on to this conspiracy theory for whatever reason.
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Originally posted by Frenchy:
Edited to respond to your additions: Bush & Co are certainly capable of a lot of things. But that does not negate the truth of the matter and the cold, hard evidence in front of you from a multitude of sources.
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The biggest and most important question is whether one is more concerned with finding the truth or hanging on to fantasy.
quote:Originally posted by Frenchy:
I am greatly disturbed by this and I think its promotion is a slap in the face to all of the people who lost family members on that flight.
quote:It must feel for them how it feels for those who lost family members in the Holocaust who have to hear some yahoo talk about how the Holocaust never happened.![]()
quote:WHAT EVIDENCE? You see a picture with some "stuff" on the ground and are told that it is airplane parts - and that is evidence?
quote:You assume alot. You assume that the debris came from the plane. You assume that the debris was actually ever even there (folks can do wonders with digital photography these days you know).
quote:The fact of the matter is that the planes that hit the twin towers acted radically different than the plane that hit the Pentagon.
quote:The fact of the matter is that there is no clear photographic evidence to confirm the plane hitting the Pentagon.
quote:The fact of the matter is that the "footprint" of whatever hit the Pentagon seems to not be consistent with what we saw hit the WTC.
quote:Fuerthermore, the fact of the matter is that Cheney authorized anything that came into the capitol perimeter to be shot down. Either 1) why did this get through? or 2) why couldn't this be a mistaken missile?
quote:Perhaps some have a more robust sense of truth than others. The photograph posted above that shows that the brick above and to the side of where the plane fuselage supposedly struck the Pentagon seems to inject a degree of uncertaintly about the established story. The "evidence" that your conspiracy site purports explains this is absolutely nonsensical in spots. Why one would swallow that 'hook, line and sinker' is beyond me.
quote:Originally posted by MBM:
I think it is a far greater "slap in the face" to the families of those who perished for there to be legitimate questions about what happened to their loved ones.
quote:quote:It must feel for them how it feels for those who lost family members in the Holocaust who have to hear some yahoo talk about how the Holocaust never happened.![]()
Wow - you really reached for that one!![]()
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quote:Originally posted by Frenchy:
This is not Looney Toons. Planes do not enter buildings leaving a perfect outline of the wings and then come to a stop just inside so that sufficient photographs can be taken before they explode.
quote:Originally posted by Frenchy:
You all are the ones saying the plane didn't even exist!
quote:Originally posted by MBM:
I never said it never existed. Quite the contrary.
quote:Originally posted by Frenchy:quote:Originally posted by MBM:
I never said it never existed. Quite the contrary.
I'm sorry. My grasp of English must be tenuous. I was not aware that when you said, AND I QUOTE: "In fact, in my eyes, it suggests that there was NO plane," you actually meant "Yes, there was a plane and it was shot down by a missile and crashed into the building" (which, by the way, I don't particularly have a problem with people believing because it doesn't require them to ignore the proof that a plane did indeed crash into the Pentagon).
quote:Here is a scenario:
There was a plane.
It approached the Capitol.
It was shot down . . . somehwere.
A missile was purposefully shot into the Pentagon to manufacture the more politically feasible/digestible scenario that was force fed America.
quote:There was a plane.
It approached the Capitol.
In the process of shooting it down one missile errantly hit the Pentagon.
quote:Originally posted by MBM:
Here is a scenario:
There was a plane.
It approached the Capitol.
It was shot down . . . somehwere.
A missile was purposefully shot into the Pentagon to manufacture the more politically feasible/digestible scenario that was force fed America.
OR
There was a plane.
It approached the Capitol.
In the process of shooting it down one missile errantly hit the Pentagon.
quote:Originally posted by MBM:
Frenchy - you are incredible. I'll post the scenarios again. Perhaps this time you'll READ them.quote:Originally posted by MBM:
Here is a scenario:
There was a plane.
It approached the Capitol.
It was shot down . . . somehwere.
A missile was purposefully shot into the Pentagon to manufacture the more politically feasible/digestible scenario that was force fed America.
OR
There was a plane.
It approached the Capitol.
In the process of shooting it down one missile errantly hit the Pentagon.
To be clear - there was a plane. It just didn't hit the Pentagon as the scenarios above suggest - AGAIN.
quote:Not jumping on eiher bandwagon
quote:Originally posted by ocatchings:
Not jumping on eiher bandwagon but if one were to use your example, then that would leave wreckage of a large plane somewhere. Given the fact that missiles don't destroy planes it would be even more difficult to "hide evidence".
quote:Originally posted by Frenchy:quote:Not jumping on eiher bandwagonOh please, catch. Just come right out and say you're on my side.
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quote:Originally posted by Frenchy:
The independent information is out there for anyone to see.
quote:Originally posted by Frenchy:
But all of that shit is neither here nor there, as you still haven't responded regarding the very first thing to come out of your trap which kickstarted our entire back and forth.![]()
quote:Frenchy - get help.