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AFRICANGLOBE – More than 7,000 people have been detained, ‘disappeared’ and not given access to an attorney at a police-run facility in Chicago, Illinois, according to documents obtained by the Guardian. This number is much higher than previously believed.

 

Only 68 of the 7,125 people held at Homan Square, the Chicago Police Department (CPD)-run facility, were allowed access to attorneys or a public notice of their whereabouts, according to information obtained as a result of a Guardian transparency lawsuit.

 

Over 7,000 People Detained By Chicago Cops At Off-The-Books Torture Site82% of people taken to the Homan Square torture facility in Chicago are Black

People can end up in Homan Square for anything from minor drug crimes to murder, raising a few eyebrows on the legality of such broad-spectrum detentions. The warehouse compound has also drawn scrutiny because of the racial makeup of the detainees: 82 percent are Black, the Guardian said.

The newspaper’s earlier reporting on Homan detailed allegations of beatings and sexual abuse that are reminiscent of the treatment of terror suspects at CIA ‘black sites.’

 

Further solidifying the parallel with the secret prisons, no contemporaneous public record of someone’s presence at Homan is currently known to exist. The lack of booking information released by police makes detainees effectively“disappeared” from the public, including family and even attorneys who are just trying to speak to their clients.

 

“The reality is, no one knows where that person is at Homan Square,” Craig Futterman, a professor at the University of Chicago Law School who studies policing, told the Guardian.“They’re disappeared at that point.”

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But CPD maintains that officers at the secretive facility “follow all the rules.” Detainees are advised of their rights to counsel by police personnel at the site, and there is “clearly visible” signage that communicates arrestees’ rights and access to a lawyer, according to a statement from the department sent to Business Insider.

 

“When looking at data regarding the number of attorney visits it’s important to remember that the vast majority of arrestees, most of those not under arrest for a violent crime, bond out in a matter of hours,” the statement read. “Many may not request an attorney because it would only prolong their detention, as opposed to just bonding out.”

 

The Guardian first published its investigation into Homan Square in February of this year, leading some government officials to call for a deeper look into the facility and protesters to clamor for its closure. But some think that the problem is a much larger one than the facility itself.

 

“Everything that was described [in the Guardian story] was something that happens every day,” criminal defense lawyer Richard Dvorak told the Chicago Tribune. “I think it’s pretty systemic throughout CPD.”

 

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  OMG!!!! This has been going on all along?  Over 7,000 black people?  GTFOH!!!  At this point, I am stunned.  Speechless.  I'ma gonna have to process this.  Cuz it is huge.  Now the police across the country is murdering us and then the Chicago Police has a holding place where they are  torturing every other black people who come to this facility?  And black people are not given their civil rights to an attorney or to make that one phone call?  Even though in this piece says the police are but  I don't believe it.  Cuz Chicago already has  its problems with increase violence.  So mitigate it.  They do this?  

 

That's why these private prisons/facilities  are dangerous.  Cuz there is no real accountability.  And it's like a plantation share cropping where once black people go there, its hard for them to come out.  And then what's gets me...somehow more charges are created to keep them in.  I don't believe that most of them don't wanna an attorney cuz it takes too long.  That's bullshyte.    It doesn't make sense.    

 

I'm glad the media and protesters caught wind to this.  Cuz quite frankly I don't believe a word the Chicago Police says or any police when it comes to black people.  And I also think that there are more problems with other similar facilities.  To me?  Just another way eliminate black people.  Different methods were ensure our genocide.  Wake up people.  Cuz it is a war going on.  And that war?  Is against us.  Trust and believe.  Cuz this story right here is one of the [many upon many] proofs.  But!

Originally Posted by Kocolicious:

  OMG!!!! This has been going on all along?  Over 7,000 black people?  GTFOH!!!  At this point, I am stunned.  Speechless.  I'ma gonna have to process this.  Cuz it is huge.  Now the police across the country is murdering us and then the Chicago Police has a holding place where they are  torturing every other black people who come to this facility?  And black people are not given their civil rights to an attorney or to make that one phone call?  Even though in this piece says the police are but  I don't believe it.  Cuz Chicago already has  its problems with increase violence.  So mitigate it.  They do this?  

 

That's why these private prisons/facilities  are dangerous.  Cuz there is no real accountability.  And it's like a plantation share cropping where once black people go there, its hard for them to come out.  And then what's gets me...somehow more charges are created to keep them in.  I don't believe that most of them don't wanna an attorney cuz it takes too long.  That's bullshyte.    It doesn't make sense.    

 

I'm glad the media and protesters caught wind to this.  Cuz quite frankly I don't believe a word the Chicago Police says or any police when it comes to black people.  And I also think that there are more problems with other similar facilities.  To me?  Just another way eliminate black people.  Different methods were ensure our genocide.  Wake up people.  Cuz it is a war going on.  And that war?  Is against us.  Trust and believe.  Cuz this story right here is one of the [many upon many] proofs.  But!

 

An article on this story was posted on this site when this story first broke.

 

But, you know that if they are actually saying are able to trace 7,000 people, you know that the number is much, much higher, the same as the number of cop beatings, shootings and murders that we actually are able to read about or see an article online or a video on youtube, etc., about.  Think of all the Black people that are "missing".  Think of all the Black people that just have not came forward.  Think of all the Black people that may be afraid to speak out about this goddamn domestic terrorism and race war racist cops are waging on Black people in America, in cities like Chicago.  

 

 

Homan Square revealed: how Chicago police 'disappeared' 7,000 people

Exclusive: Guardian lawsuit exposes fullest scale yet of detentions at off-the-books interrogation warehouse, while attorneys describe find-your-client chase across Chicago as ‘something from a Bond movie’

 
 
As one attorney whose client was taken to Homan Square said: ‘Operating a massive, warehouse between two crime-filled areas ... the demographics that surround it speak for themselves.’ Video by Philipp Batta and Mae Ryan

Police “disappeared” more than 7,000 people at an off-the-books interrogation warehouse in Chicago, nearly twice as many detentions as previously disclosed, the Guardian can now reveal.

The new disclosures, the result of an ongoing Guardian transparency lawsuit and investigation, provide the most detailed, full-scale portrait yet of the truth about Homan Square, a secretive facility that Chicago police have described as little more than a low-level narcotics crime outpost where the mayor has said police “follow all the rules”.

 

The police portrayals contrast sharply with those of Homan Square detainees and their lawyers, who insist that “if this could happen to someone, it could happen to anyone”. A 30-year-old man named Jose, for example, was one of the few detainees with an attorney present when he surrendered to police. He said officers at the warehouse questioned him even after his lawyer specifically told them he would not speak.
 

“The Fillmore and Homan boys,” Jose said, referring to police and the facility’s cross streets, “don’t play by the rules.”

 

According to an analysis of data disclosed to the Guardian in late September, police allowed lawyers access to Homan Square for only 0.94% of the 7,185 arrests logged over nearly 11 years. That percentage aligns with Chicago police’s broader practice of providing minimal access to attorneys during the crucial early interrogation stage, when an arrestee’s constitutional rights against self-incrimination are most vulnerable.

 

But Homan Square is unlike Chicago police precinct houses, according to lawyers who described a “find-your-client game” and experts who reviewed data from the latest tranche of arrestee records obtained by the Guardian.

That place was and is scary. There's nothing about it that resembles a police station

<cite class=" pullquote-cite">Attorney David Gaeger</cite>

“Not much shakes me in this business – baby murder, sex assault, I’ve done it all,” said David Gaeger, an attorney whose client was taken to Homan Square in 2011 after being arrested for marijuana. “That place was and is scary. It’s a scary place. There’s nothing about it that resembles a police station. It comes from a Bond movie or something.”

 

The narcotics, vice and anti-gang units operating out of Homan Square, on Chicago’s west side, take arrestees to the nondescript warehouse from all over the city: police data obtained by the Guardian and mapped against the city grid show that 53% of disclosed arrestees come from more than 2.5 miles away from the warehouse. No contemporaneous public record of someone’s presence at Homan Square is known to exist.

 

Nor are any booking records generated at Homan Square, as confirmed by a sworn deposition of a police researcher in late September, further preventing relatives or attorneys from finding someone taken there.

 

“The reality is, no one knows where that person is at Homan Square,” said Craig Futterman, a professor at the University of Chicago Law School who studies policing. “They’re disappeared at that point.”

 

A Chicago police spokesman did not respond to a list of questions for this article, including why the department had doubled its initial arrest disclosures without an explanation for the lag. “If lawyers have a client detained at Homan Square, just like any other facility, they are allowed to speak to and visit them,” the police claimed in a February statement.

Numbers are ‘hard to believe’

Twenty-two people have told the Guardian that Chicago police kept them at Homan Square for hours and even days. They describe pressure from officers to become informants, and all but two – both white – have said the police denied them phone calls to alert relatives or attorneys of their whereabouts.

Their accounts point to violations of police directives, which say police must “complete the booking process” regardless of their interest in interrogating a suspect and must also “allow the arrestee to make a reasonable number of telephone calls to an attorney, family member or friend”, usually within “the first hour” of detention.

 

The most recent disclosure of Homan Square data provides the scale behind those accounts: the demographic trends within the 7,185 disclosed arrests at the warehouse are now far more vast than what the Guardian reported in August after launching the transparency lawsuit – but are consistently disproportionate in terms of race and constitutional access to legal counsel.

  • 82.2% of people detained at Homan Square were black, compared with 32.9% of the Chicago population.
  • 11.8% of detainees in the Homan Square logs were Hispanic, compared with 28.9% of the population.
  • 5.5% of the detainees were white, compared with 31.7% of the population.
  • Of the 68 people who Chicago police claim had access to counsel at Homan Square, however, 45% were black, 26% were Hispanic and another 26% were white.

“Operating a massive, red-brick warehouse between two of the most crime-filled areas in the city of Chicago, equipped with floodlights, cameras, razor-wire – this near-paramilitary wing of the government that we’ve created, I would say that people who live close to it know what purpose it serves the most,” said the attorney Gaeger. “The demographics that surround it speak for themselves.”

 
 

The facility’s use by police has intensified in recent years. Nearly 65% of documented Homan Square arrests since August 2004 took place in the five years since Rahm Emanuel, formerly Barack Obama’s top aide, became mayor. (The Guardian has filed a Foia request with Emanuel’s office to disclose the extent of its involvement in Homan Square.)

 

The 68 documented attorney visits are actually slightly higher, statistically speaking, than the extremely minimal legal access Chicago police provide suspects in custody during the initial stages of their arrest. The 2014 citywide total at declared police stations, according to First Defense Legal Aid, was 0.3%. On face value, the lawyer visit rate at Homan Square, according to the newly disclosed documents, was 0.9% over nearly 11 years.

 

But those documents do not tell the entire story of Homan Square. Chicago police have not disclosed any figures at all on people who were detained at Homan Square but never ultimately charged. Nor has it released any information about detentions or arrests before September 2004, claiming that information is burdensome to produce because it is not digital. (Chicago purchased the warehouse in 1995.)

 

“It’s hard to believe that 7,185 arrests is an accurate number of arrestees at Homan Square,” said the University of Chicago’s Futterman. “Even if it were true that less than 1% of Homan arrestees were given access to counsel, that would be abhorrent in and of itself.”

‘Try finding a phone number for Homan’

Homan Square
 Arrestees often are not processed at the Homan Square facility, in apparent violation of Chicago police directives. Photograph: The Guardian

Chicago attorneys say they are not routinely turned away from police precinct houses, as they are at Homan Square. The warehouse is also unique in not generating public records of someone’s detention there, permitting police to effectively hide detainees from their attorneys.

 

“Try finding a phone number for Homan to see if anyone’s there. You can’t, ever,” said Gaeger. “If you’re laboring under the assumption that your client’s at Homan, there really isn’t much you can do as a lawyer. You’re shut out. It’s guarded like a military installation.”

 

The difficulty lawyers have in finding phone numbers for Homan Square mirrors the difficulties that arrestees at the warehouse have in making phone calls to the outside world. Futterman called the lack of phone access at Homan Square a critical problem. 

Booking isn’t happening or is happening sporadically and inconsistently, which leads to the whole find-your-client game

<cite class=" pullquote-cite">Craig Futterman, University of Chicago Law School</cite>

“They’re not given access to phones, and the CPD’s admitted this, until they get to lockup – but there’s no lockup at Homan Square,” he said. “How do you contact a lawyer? It’s not telepathy.

 
 

Additionally, some of those who Chicago police listed as receiving lawyer visits at Homan Square disputed the accounts or said the access provided was superficial.

 

According to police, when they took a woman the Guardian will identify as Chevoughn to Homan Square in May 2007 regarding a theft, they allowed her attorney to see her. Chevoughn says that never happened.

 

“I was there a very long time, maybe eight to 10 hours,” said Chevoughn, who remembered being “petrified”, particularly as police questioned her in what she calls a “cage”.

 

“I went to Harrison and Kedzie,” Chevoughn said, referring to the cross streets of central booking. “That’s where I slept. It’s where they did fingerprinting, all that crap. That’s when my attorney came.”

 

Police arrested another man, whom the Guardian will call Anthony, in 2006 on charges of starting a garbage fire, and moved him to Homan Square. Police identified him as receiving an attorney there. But Anthony told the Guardian: “That’s not true.”

 

Lawyer Rajeev Bajaj was allowed into Homan Square to see one of his clients in 2006. Police stopped Bajaj from entering for approximately an hour, and by the time they let him in he saw “the secretive nature” of officers and prosecutors there – exactly what he visited the warehouse to stop them from doing.

 

“When I got there, there were two prosecutors questioning, knowing fully that I was down there to see him,” Bajaj said. “When I walked in, they seriously walked away, acting like they weren’t speaking to him or anything. It’s typical Chicago police, typical Homan Square, typical Cook County prosecutors’ office.”

‘They squeeze people. That’s what they do’

According to court and police documents from Jose’s case, an anonymous informant told officers a man nicknamed “Chuie” sold him marijuana from the address where Jose lived. (Not only did the search warrant not name Jose, it described a taller man.) Police showed up at his house in force in February 2013, guns drawn.

 

Jose wasn’t home. But his wife and 10-year-old daughter were, as well as his daughter’s friend, who had come over to work on a school project.

 

Police took a substantial amount of marijuana and what Jose said was about $10,000 in cash. The arrest report listed the cash at $4,670. Jose said he never got his money back.

 

After consulting with his attorney, Jose and lawyer Nick Albukerk traveled to Homan Square the following month. Albukerk said he advised officers that Jose was invoking his rights against self-incrimination and was not to be questioned. But the lawyer did not enter Homan Square as his client was led inside and placed in a room by himself.

That's what they do, man: they get people who don't know their rights

<cite class=" pullquote-cite">Jose</cite>

According to the police report, it was 10pm. Jose took a Xanax for his nerves. He began to nod off, until he heard banging on the door and a demand to “get up”.

 

“What do you mean, help myself? ‘Are you going to talk to me?’ ‘Nah, my lawyer was just here. You could have just said this in front of my lawyer. I know my rights’ … He wasn’t trying to hear it. He was just blabbing away, like ‘Oh, you think you’re a smart-ass,’ this and that.

 

“That’s what they do, man: they get people who don’t know their rights,” Jose continued. “That’s probably how they came upon me and my house – probably someone ended up talking to them and they dry-snitched on me. All they knew was that I lived there.

 

“They squeeze people, and then they go get somebody else. That’s what they do.”

 

Additional reporting by Zach Stafford and Phillipp Batta in Chicago and the Guardian US interactive team

 

 

If over 7,000 people have been kidnapped or whatever, you don't protest, you riot. Some shit needs to be bombed. Some high quality targets get kidnapped for potential ransom .Some political entity somewhere is gonna know what the hell has happened because somebody is gonna die that day, and if they want the riots, bombings, killings, retaliatory kidnappings to to stop, they better produce over 7,000 people. That's the way the shit works everywhere else in the world. Except when it comes to Black people, we bring signs and candles and sing some songs. 

 

I don't understand Black folks in Chicago, you flooded with all those guns in those streets and these brothers and sisters been under this type of occupation by the police since they got there.

 

Chicago is worse than NYC or LA, how do you not arm yourself and open fire on cops, but you got niggas running around simulating fucking gang warfare, but niggas won't shoot at the police.

 

At a certain point and time, you gonna have to recognize the type of situation you are in.

 

There is no way out. There is no integrating you. There is no "justice" for you. Most people hope you die and go extinct. Nobody is coming to save you. Nobody likes you. Fighting yourself is entertainment for your opponent. Only thing you got is your life and if you like living and you wanna live with some type of respect for yourself...

 

You gonna have to fight back...even if you get slaughtered wholesale. At least you won't live like the bitch you currently are. I rather be dead than be weak and powerless and beholden to White people. I rather die. 

 

And it's the responsibility of the adults if the teenagers and the children don't get it. Cause like 90 percent of teenagers of unemployed teenagers in Chicago,

a lot of them are already killers anyway, you got a guerrilla army right there. If they got guns in their hands and they have been made so violent and bloodthirsty and angry due to their socioeconomic situation, at least direct them to their true enemy. 

 

A lot of adults of scared of these motherfuckers and let them do whatever they want. These niggas don't respect you cause you ain't shit. You don't stand for nothing. You bring them into this world, where they are weak and vulnerable and don't make nothing for them. You got them living in some overcrowded unsanitary government house.  Then your sons and daughters get taken away or killed by whatever. And you are completely powerless. 

 

There is something biologically and psychologically missing in the African race that makes them unable to violently oppose White people. Step on a nigga shoes and he'll fight you to death but the White man...nothing happens to them and they cause every single woe in your life.

 

South Africans have the majority in South Africa and crackers that slaughtered their entire families are still there...living...as first class citizens. 

 

The only documented examples we have, of a full all-out assault on White people is the Nat Turner, Haitian Revolution and the Mau-Mau. 

 

You gotta fight back. There's a point when enough is enough and somebody other than black people gotta do some slow singing and flower bringing. 

 

I never seen or heard of a group of people take abuse from another group of people without retaliating, never did anything to that other group and continue to take it..for no discernible reason. 

 

Somebody explain to me, what do the African race, get out of being a complete and total bitch to the European race? What material, economic, political gains has the African race made while being the bitch of the White man?

 

 Only the Gypsies have taken worse abuse and they are nomadic - so when they get abused, they leave.  Black people don't leave, don't fight, political representatives don't do shit, civil rights representatives don't do shit, the justice system don't do shit, international community don't do shit...

 

Nothing productive occurs to stop the abuse. It just continues forever and ever and ever.

 

And then whenever a brother, by himself, says fuck this and start killing White folk that has wronged him and his people, we ain't supposed to say, "That's what you get."

 

Even though, deep down, somewhere we are pleased by it. Black people wanna be politically correct, even among ourselves. Every single White person deserves violence rained upon them by Black people, born and unborn, male and female young and old and it has rarely happened, not out of the goodness of Black people but fear. 

 

Black folks are afraid of White people. If you are okay with taking more abuse than you give, you just afraid.  Black people take generational abuse.  It doesn't stop after you die, it doesn't stop after you kids die, it doesn't stop after your kids' kids die, it doesn't stop ever. It never stopped. It probably won't stop.

 

It will continue, until there are no more of us. That's the entire goal. 

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We need to collectively leave the United States of America. We're never going to have peace here, nor have any semblance of respect. We should be as fuckin' fed up withe them and they are with us. The two colors of humans living together on the turf was a disastrous, humongous mistake. I, personally, am tired of all this racial bullshit. No one's better than me or anyone else. We're all just our parents kids. No more, no fuckin' less. Blake Shelton has a song "Kiss my Country Ass", I love it. That title can be used for everywhere we live. Kiss My NorthEastern Ass, you don't have to like me. For the record, I'm NO ONE'S MINORITY. There is no such thing.

 

Blake, for the record, you're a very handsome dude to me. I'm not into YT's, but I'm not dead yet either, just older than cat shit and sometimes observant, and I know what they say about opinions; I have one; sometimes many. 

 

Back to the subject:  All of us need to gather up our shit and git the fuck out of Dodge. These fuckers need to pay us some 500 year torture and hatred money.

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Originally Posted by Norland:

We need to collectively leave the United States of America. We're never going to have peace here, nor have any semblance of respect. We should be as fuckin' fed up withe them and they are with us. The two colors of humans living together on the turf was a disastrous, humongous mistake. I, personally, am tired of all this racial bullshit. No one's better than me or anyone else. We're all just our parents kids. No more, no fuckin' less. Blake Shelton has a song "Kiss my Country Ass", I love it. That title can be used for everywhere we live. Kiss My NorthEastern Ass, you don't have to like me. For the record, I'm NO ONE'S MINORITY. There is no such thing.

 

Blake, for the record, you're a very handsome dude to me. I'm not into YT's, but I'm not dead yet either, just older than cat shit and sometimes observant, and I know what they say about opinions; I have one; sometimes many. 

 

 

I am thinking of going to Canada!

 

Go hang around some the Black people up in Toronto. Eat pancakes and Canadian bacon...avoid White people. 

We're all going to die here. They're either gonna send our kids to fight their wars or we're going to scare them all to damn death and their guns are going to be blazing like there's no tomorrow on our black asses. I wish Al Jolson had choked and died while singing "Mammy", talking 'bout "how I love her" bullshit. All they loved was that free brown skinned forced service with chains by the side and whips crackin'.

Originally Posted by GoodMan:
Originally Posted by Norland:

We need to collectively leave the United States of America. We're never going to have peace here, nor have any semblance of respect. We should be as fuckin' fed up withe them and they are with us. The two colors of humans living together on the turf was a disastrous, humongous mistake. I, personally, am tired of all this racial bullshit. No one's better than me or anyone else. We're all just our parents kids. No more, no fuckin' less. Blake Shelton has a song "Kiss my Country Ass", I love it. That title can be used for everywhere we live. Kiss My NorthEastern Ass, you don't have to like me. For the record, I'm NO ONE'S MINORITY. There is no such thing.

 

Blake, for the record, you're a very handsome dude to me. I'm not into YT's, but I'm not dead yet either, just older than cat shit and sometimes observant, and I know what they say about opinions; I have one; sometimes many. 

 

 

I am thinking of going to Canada!

 

Go hang around some the Black people up in Toronto. Eat pancakes and Canadian bacon...avoid White people. 

http://www.expatica.com/

 

If I was a young man like you the minute I got my degree ZOOM out of here. There are so many better places to live than the US. This whole detention, disappearing people is probably on the edges of legality because of the Patriot Act and now they are using it for domestic law enforcement.

 

This reminds me of what went on in Chile, Argentina, Peru 10's of 1000's of people disappeared. Wife, daughter and I toured a torture facility in Cordoba Argentina, it was right smack in the middle of town among everything else, they did not even try to hide it, you can see where people scratched their names into the walls, where they were beaten to death and later the dead bodies were dropped into the ocean from airplanes.   

 

What really bothers me this should be on World News, National News this should be reported as some kind of outrageous scandal, crime against humanity but it's being ignored by the mainstream media. 

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Sista Sunnubian wrote:  
But, you know that if they are actually saying are able to trace 7,000 people, you know that the number is much, much higher, the same as the number of cop beatings, shootings and murders that we actually are able to read about or see an article online or a video on youtube, etc., about.  Think of all the Black people that are "missing".  Think of all the Black people that just have not came forward.  Think of all the Black people that may be afraid to speak out about this goddamn domestic terrorism and race war racist cops are waging on Black people in America, in cities like Chicago.  

 

   That is horrifying.  Reminds me of that movie "Time Machine."  They fatten up the people and then put them in a trance underground to have them for dinner...disappearing without a trace.  Much like what the Chicago police is doing in this torture chamber guised as a legitimate building for arrest processing.

 

Where is Vincent Price?  Cuz this is his type of horror movie.  And it is similar to the real life drama where people here in Chicago go to what they think is a standard police facility and find themselves lost in a horror type maze with no recourse to freedom or human rights.  You're supposed to be innocent until proven guilty.  And this is happening in 2015?  And is as oblivious as the BIG pumpkin sitting in the middle of a busy street.   And not one person black or white has said a word...until now?

 

 I know black officials know about this place!  Gotta know.  Where are our leaders on the front line?  7000 people is a lotta folks.  This also reminds me of those girls who were kidnapped in Nigeria. And others throughout history who have gone missing.   But the difference?  They were called genocides.  We are in America and everything in this government is supposed to be transparent.  And unfortunately it is not.  I am at a WOW.  I still can't believe it.  And you're so right my sista.  I think 7000 is just the tip of the iceberg.  Something tells me there is more...a lot MORE!!!!  What a chilling place America has become for black people.  And this is the place that we built.  Ha!  The irony of it all is priceless and absolutely mind-blowin'.  But!

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This is an indictment, not only on the fact that racists use America's police departments and uniforms and authority for there own personal racist agenda, but it is also an indictment of the prevalence of mental derangement and intellectual regression saturating this country and why they have been able to do so with such impunity in America.  

 

AMERICA IS SICK;

 

AMERICA IS MENTALLY AND EMOTIONALLY AND SPIRITUALLY DISEASED;

 

THOSE WHO SHOULD BE PATIENTS, ARE RUNNING THE ASYLUMS IN AMERICA. 

 

THIS IS A "ZOMBIE" APOCALYPSE, AND BLACK PEOPLE NEED TO RECOGNIZE AN APOCALYPSE WHEN THEY SEE ONE HAPPENING RIGHT BEFORE THEIR VERY EYES, AND WHO THE "ZOMBIES" REALLY ARE.

 

 

 

 

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Its on the edges of legality because the Detainee Treatment Act makes it legal but it will have to be challenged in court or Congress will have to repeal it to get rid of it. I got it mixed up with the Patriot Act but DTA allows law enforcement officials and military personnel to detain people without charge, without legal representation, without public notice and allows approved methods of enhance interrogation or torture.  

 

So the cops set up this disappearing interrogation site under the legal terms of Detainee Treatment Act of 2005 produced by the Bush W administration. 

 

The Patriot Act and the Detainee Treatment Act of 2005 were purposely set up for the future authoritarian government being set up right up under our noses. 

 

So this is why the cops don't care how many protesters are out there, don't care what people say because until DTA is changed or eliminated they believe what they are doing is lawful under the guidelines of DTA. 

 

Ya see where this country will end up, see where Black people will end up? Its seriously scary. So where is the NAACP, where is The Urban League, where are the so called Black leaders? What other developments need to happen before the masses of Black people galvanize and fight this with all we have?

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Originally Posted by Kocolicious:

Sista Sunnubian wrote:  
But, you know that if they are actually saying are able to trace 7,000 people, you know that the number is much, much higher, the same as the number of cop beatings, shootings and murders that we actually are able to read about or see an article online or a video on youtube, etc., about.  Think of all the Black people that are "missing".  Think of all the Black people that just have not came forward.  Think of all the Black people that may be afraid to speak out about this goddamn domestic terrorism and race war racist cops are waging on Black people in America, in cities like Chicago.  

 

   That is horrifying.  Reminds me of that movie "Time Machine."  They fatten up the people and then put them in a trance underground to have them for dinner...disappearing without a trace.  Much like what the Chicago police is doing in this torture chamber guised as a legitimate building for arrest processing.

 

Where is Vincent Price?  Cuz this is his type of horror movie.  And it is similar to the real life drama where people here in Chicago go to what they think is a standard police facility and find themselves lost in a horror type maze with no recourse to freedom or human rights.  You're supposed to be innocent until proven guilty.  And this is happening in 2015?  And is as oblivious as the BIG pumpkin sitting in the middle of a busy street.   And not one person black or white has said a word...until now?

 

 I know black officials know about this place!  Gotta know.  Where are our leaders on the front line?  7000 people is a lotta folks.  This also reminds me of those girls who were kidnapped in Nigeria. And others throughout history who have gone missing.   But the difference?  They were called genocides.  We are in America and everything in this government is supposed to be transparent.  And unfortunately it is not.  I am at a WOW.  I still can't believe it.  And you're so right my sista.  I think 7000 is just the tip of the iceberg.  Something tells me there is more...a lot MORE!!!!  What a chilling place America has become for black people.  And this is the place that we built.  Ha!  The irony of it all is priceless and absolutely mind-blowin'.  But!

Koco, it is a horror movie so why this is not being talked about across the country? I just don't understand the missing outrage. People can get all crazy about a lion being killed in Africa but you hear crickets on something like this.

Originally Posted by Momentum:
 

Koco, it is a horror movie so why this is not being talked about across the country? I just don't understand the missing outrage. People can get all crazy about a lion being killed in Africa but you hear crickets on something like this.

 

 

Please, you know why.  You know exactly why it's not being talked about.

Better check those waters flowing along the city. Probably a couple black neighborhoods drowned in those bastards.  Do they have any woods in Chiraq? Go deeply in the depths and check the trees for long, black tree ornaments that don't have a damn thing to do with Christmas. Check for unmarked grave sites.

 

White folks you might rule shit, but your heads are looking raggedy as can be. Your entire race looks like it should be enclosed in a humongous mental institution where none of you should ever see the light of day until it's time to bury your asses after you've taken your last breath. You're a scary, hateful lot, world wide. No one's safe in your proximity anywhere. Ugly old killers who llloooovvveeee money. The love of money is the root of alllllllll evil. You guys definitely have the evil. Look in the mirror; did you get a case of dysentery? When you ran to the toilet, did you have your gun with you?? Never know when that scary Black man might run up on you. Did you have it cocked? Locked and cocked!!!! With all the fuckin' money!!! That's you!!

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