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Our Obsession With Black Celebrity Is Undermining Our Movement

02/12/2016 12:29 pm ET | Updated 4 days ago
COURTESY OF BENJAMIN HART

 

My (Apparently) Obligatory Response To 'Formation': In List Form

 

1. I have actively avoided saying anything about BeyoncÉ's new song and video. I don't think they are interesting, important or deserving of my commentary. That as a Black, queer person I have, in the last week, been expected--and, at moments, obligated--to respond to them is insulting and infuriating.

2. Big Freedia is a force. She was used in this project, barely cited and never seen. Black, trans women have given more to popular culture than almost anyone realizes, while they continue to endure inconceivable violence in obscurity. Sampling their style for aesthetic purposes without attaching their faces is not revolutionary. It isn't even original.

3. As other queer, southern forces have pointed out this week, Hurricane Katrina is not a sexy backdrop. It was a moment in which this country watched a city of poor Black people drown and stood idly by. It was--eerily like the halftime show--a demonstration of our nation's capacity for mistaking passive consumption of Black struggle with active participation in Black struggle.

 If I learned one thing this week, it is that we are starving to see ourselves in power. We yearn to celebrate the vision of it, even when we know it is a ploy, a hologram.

 

 4. Straight, cis people saying "slay" falls on my ear in exactly the same way as white people saying "trill" and "fleek."

5. Bill Gates isn't just a rich, white, man. He is one of free market capitalism's most powerful advocates. His foundation has supported multiple projects that undermine unions, affordable education and public schools. His wealth has worked to privatize and gentrify Black communities across this country. Lyrically lauding his achievements is at best thoughtless, at worst sinister.

6. The appropriation of queer and trans genius by straight, cis people is real. As a queer Black person I feel betrayed by straight, cis, Black people who are celebrating this video instead of defending queer art and culture from corporate ravaging.

7. Backup dancers in pseudo Black Panther garb rang as a flippant, even exploitative play on dated Black power movements. It was an insult to our ancestors, and an inability to recognize the current face of Black power.

8. The racist mayor of Chicago has yet to resign. The people of Flint continue to pay for poisoned water, and face a growingly unchecked police state. The officer who killed Quintonio Legreir is suing his estate for emotional distress. Every new think piece about a music video--including this one--deflect energy and attention away from the demanding work of abolition, adding to our complacency with the structures bearing down on us.

9. Misogyny and racism are real. BeyoncÉ faces these things. She'll be okay. She has private security, personal transportation and a ton of money. She doesn't need us to defend her. But we need to defend each other.

 

Celebration and distraction are not the same thing.\

 

10. Celebration and distraction are not the same thing. Taking time to step back from our difficult realities to rejoice, heal and love together is crucial. Investing in corporate fantasies and confusing them with our movements is detrimental.

11. The image of backup dancers holding a sign for Mario Woods was made possible because Black Lives Matter activists ran onto the field and handed the sign to them. The closest thing to an actual solidarity statement happened because local organizers broke through the spectacle of the Super Bowl, not BeyoncÉ.

12. Non-Black people cheering the corporatizing of Black power may not understand the urgency of the moment we are in, the need to stay vigilant against the diluting of our movement, and the implications for Black communities if our efforts are overtaken.

13. There is a long history of Black celebrities advocating for Black movements. Eartha Kitt, Muhammad Ali, Lena Horne are folks we think of first as athletes and movie stars, yet who used their celebrity to publicly defy the state and advocate for Black communities, at times at great personal risk, and to the detriment of their careers. Do not compare them to BeyoncÉ basking in the publicity of a halftime show.

 

Corporations finding creative ways to profit off a popular movement...is an affront to Black organizing, and an offensive caricature of our history.

 

 

14. Beyonce appeared in a straight-up racist video about a week before 'Formation' came out. Yes, anti-Blackness is a real issue in Desi communities. So is orientalism in Black communities. Complex though the interplay, the outcome is the irresponsible treatment of South Asian culture and people. There is nothing defensible about that, and nothing new.

15. The Super Bowl--the same as any high corporate festival--displaces the poor, and leads to heightened policing. This year's Super Bowl was actively protested by San Francisco's homeless community. Black, queer organizers who shut down the Bay Bridge in January made active connections between the revenue generated for the city by the Super Bowl, and the need to interrupt its flow. An advocate for Black power would have refused to perform, help shut down the event, or raise up the demands of community. Instead--I don't at all doubt--BeyoncÉ was invited in no small part to dissuade the protests city officials feared would disrupt the event.

16. BeyoncÉ is light-skinned, skinny, cis, has a whole fleet of make up artists, personal trainers and professional photographers. Her team has relied on white passing to bolster her image before, and 'Formation' had plenty of its own colorism issues. You don't need her to tell you to love your nose.

17. BeyoncÉ is rumored to be in final negotiations to perform in Tel Aviv, even as a growing number of Black musicians, actors and writers refuse to appear in Israel in solidarity with the people of Palestine. This possibility is in no way incongruous with BeyoncÉ's political past-including her halftime performance. It should not surprise anyone.

18. If I learned one thing this week, it is that we are starving to see ourselves in power. We yearn to celebrate the vision of it, even when we know it is a ploy, a hologram. Our hunger, no matter how potent, no matter how righteous, cannot transfigure pop stars into revolutionaries. It cannot supplement community power with what it manages to extract from corporate media.

19. In no way is this pop cultural propaganda about an artist's political growth, for BeyoncÉ is not an actual artist. It is about corporations finding creative ways to profit off a popular movement. It is an affront to Black organizing, and an offensive caricature of our history.

20. The state has many tools to break up a movement. Scripted messaging and infiltration are key ones. If we invite corporations to take over our movements, look to network television to instruct us in our successes, we give up our power without so much as a fight. We hand it over to the exact bodies that are trying to destroy it.

21. BeyoncÉ is a logo. BeyoncÉ is a commodity. BeyoncÉ is a production. BeyoncÉ is a distraction. BeyoncÉ is a ruse. BeyoncÉ does not actually exist.

22. You-not-her-are the Black visionary, the budding potential for revolution.

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Black, queer person's opinion's no different from any other. Like anuses, we all have them. If you don't like someone, don't bother watching. Life's too short for all the shit that's going down these days with everyone on the planet. We're all just human beings, no more/no less with various levels of insanity.

Forget Beyonce and all her millions; whose idea was it to drop incinerating bombs from miles in the sky on peoples' heads? That's some horrible shit that's been going on ever since I've been on the planet. People shredding people into bloody masses of flesh for what??? California's going through a heatwave in February; Africa's hot with no damn water. 

Entertainers entertain. I, personally, like singers; some white, most black and I buy CD's.

The Superbowl was cool. I know nothing about football; like Cam Newton and how he holds his head up high through all the bullshit thrown his way as young as he is. I'll never forget his swag walking past the cameramen, earphones on, in a sharp jacket. He reminds me vaguely of the President. I like people like that.

Everyone has something to say about everybody. Read a book, take a chill pill. If you have financial capabilities, donate to a child, or Flint or take a nap. STFU.

Benji Hart needs to stop hating and understand that there are different kinds of "activism" and that people fight oppression with whatever weapon they have to fight it with where they are at the time.

Beonce' could have just as well remained silent and not risked anything, but she made a conscious effort to make a statement and/or to at least use the platform/public forum that she has been afforded to call attention to the unnecessary racism, oppression and death being inflicted on Black [and Brown] people in America.  

Beonce' chose to, at least, get people talking or keep people talking about a subject that should not be allowed to be faded out or overshadowed by distraction propaganda of America's biased corporate owned, operated and controlled media.

So, in Beonce's case, 'Black celebrity is NOT undermining any movement', but to the contrary, this time, just like so many artists, musicians, entertainers, actors, actresses, celebrities, etc., during the Civil Rights Movement, Beonce has 'put her money where her mouth is', taken a risk with her 'celebrity', and stepped out of her comfort zone, to call attention to, and celebrate the Movement.

 

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THIS IS SOOOOOOOO RIDICULOUS.  I HAD TO RESPOND IN TWO PARTS.  WARNING A LONG READ.  YOU MAY WANNA SKIP THIS DUE TO ITS LONGEVITY AND NOT READ IT AT ALL.  BUT I COULDN'T HELP IT.  I HAD TO GET IT OUT. HAD TO SAY SOMETHING TO THIS FOOL.   THIS IS WHY I DON'T CARE FOR GAYS...THEIR DISMISSAL OF BLACK WOMEN.  SO HERE WE GO.

 

 

My (Apparently) Obligatory Response To 'Formation': In List Form

 

1. I have actively avoided saying anything about Beyoncé's new song and video. I don't think they are interesting, important or deserving of my commentary. That as a Black, queer person I have, in the last week, been expected--and, at moments, obligated--to respond to them is insulting and infuriating.

We don't NEED your spin on this.  As black people are dying across this country...your punk ass is still attempting to throw shade.  You a coward.  Step back.  

2.Big Freedia is a force. She was used in this project, barely cited and never seen. Black, trans women have given more to popular culture than almost anyone realizes,

That's a FOCKING LIE.  Popular culture.  Take you ass back to the harlem renaissance to see whose given more to popular culture.  Ain't no body tryin to parade in life as a fake woman but a fake.  Popular culture is fake folks walking around being something that their DNA doesn't support.  You a man.  

 

while they continue to endure inconceivable violence in obscurity. Sampling their style for aesthetic purposes without attaching their faces is not revolutionary. It isn't even original.

What style?  Gays and Queers model after real WOMEN.  How WOMEN move.  Not how men move.  So don't confuse revolutionary dance....with something that is not authentic.  When a manboy dresses up like a woman and dances like a woman...what type of dance is that?

3. As other queer, southern forces have pointed out this week, Hurricane Katrina is not a sexy backdrop. It was a moment in which this country watched a city of poor Black people drown and stood idly by. It was--eerily like the halftime show--a demonstration of our nation's capacity for mistaking passive consumption of Black struggle with active participation in Black struggle.

If you don't know what to say that is relevant?  SAY NOTHING.   Yes you may be an advocate in Chicago for youth but your closed mind hasn't be able to grasp the concept.   ART triggers the mind to problem-solve.  Kneegrow...go back to school.  Or something.  Your ass is supposed to be SUPPORTING her not throwing her under the bus.  Trader!  Here's a thought...duh!  Katrina residents are STILL suffering. Again. Katrina residents are still suffering.  Don't you get that?   Cuz massa sho doesn't.   

If I learned one thing this week, it is that we are starving to see ourselves in power. We yearn to celebrate the vision of it, even when we know it is a ploy, a hologram.

You have LEARNED nothing.

4. Straight, cis people saying "slay" falls on my ear in exactly the same way as white people saying "trill" and "fleek."

Dont care.  Not significant to what the message was about.  You just jaw jacking cuz you really don't KNOW what to say.  But since they asked you your opinion...you wanna play like you do.  

5. Bill Gates isn't just a rich, white, man. He is one of free market capitalism's most powerful advocates. His foundation has supported multiple projects that undermine unions, affordable education and public schools. His wealth has worked to privatize and gentrify Black communities across this country. Lyrically lauding his achievements is at best thoughtless, at worst sinister.

So whatcha saying?  Still.  Missed the point I see.  Typical.  Cuz there's no place to buck and grind.   The Black Bill Gate shout out was a compliment to Bill Gate.  You're an idiot!  Straight up.

6. The appropriation of queer and trans genius by straight, cis people is real. As a queer Black person I feel betrayed by straight, cis, Black people who are celebrating this video instead of defending queer art and culture from corporate ravaging.

 

No no no.  I' m not gonna let you get away with saying that.  There is no genius in seeing a MAN dressed up as a woman...dancing like a woman.  Or a man dressed like a boy dance like a woman.   Where is the genius in that?  I'm a woman...so movement comes naturally for me.  Again don't get that shyte twisted and then wanna claim it.  Cuz it ain't yourn.  And why should WE defend black gay art when black gay people don't defend black people in general?  No corporate ravaging.  I haven't seen many gay protesters at BLM rallies.  You?  No.  Yall act like spoiled brat just cuz there's more of yall are coming out of the closet.  A closet where I still think childhood demons STILL hide.

7. Backup dancers in pseudo Black Panther garb rang as a flippant, even exploitative play on dated Black power movements. It was an insult to our ancestors, and an inability to recognize the current face of Black power.

 

Okay.  Dude.  You really NEED to take your  black ass BACK in the closet.  And while you're at it?  Take some BLACK HISTORY BOOKS witcha you and a flash light.   I think you may not be [don't know for sure] associating with a lot of brothas and sistas.  Somethin' missing.  I understand that you are speaking for your group...but!  Please don't do it with ignorance and envy about black  women ..cuz it is SHOWING.  Big time.  Also, we didn't get to see Big Freddie on Bey's video. Cuz Big Freddie isn't the MESSAGE to the country.  The fact that he working on the video is showing that he is moving up in his career.  So showing his face in any of the videos about the Katrina Crisis is...irrelevant.  No?  That sounds like a...me wanna be chief and not indian...kinda move.  No?  We shoud be working together for the same cause.  Cuz we are ALL black.  No?

8. The racist mayor of Chicago has yet to resign. The people of Flint continue to pay for poisoned water, and face a growingly unchecked police state. The officer who killed Quintonio Legreir is suing his estate for emotional distress. Every new think piece about a music video--including this one--deflect energy and attention away from the demanding work of abolition, adding to our complacency with the structures bearing down on us.

 

Blah blah blah.  So. What are YOU doin' to mitigate this?

 

9. Misogyny and racism are real. Beyoncé faces these things. She'll be okay. She has private security, personal transportation and a ton of money. She doesn't need us to defend her. But we need to defend each other.

Celebration and distraction are not the same thing.

Blah Blah Blah....oh hum dum.  Still don't know what to say I see.

 

 
 
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PART TWO.  YALL STILL DON'T HAVE TO READ THIS  .  I JUST NEED TO LET THE STEAM OUT ON THIS MOFO.  YES.   I MISS SCHOOL. THE  LIVE POLITICAL DEBATES....WHICH I THINK IS NECESSARY TO KEEP ISSUE RELEVANT.  AND THIS ISSUE WITH HOME DUDE?   IS VERY RELEVANT...WELL TO ME ANYWAY ENOUGH TO SAY SOMETHING TO HIS STUPID ASS!.  I KNOW HE MAY NOT SEE THIS COMMENTARY  BUT THAT'S NOT THE POINT.  IT'S OUT IN THE UNIVERSE NOW,  MY POINT. 

10. Celebration and distraction are not the same thing. Taking time to step back from our difficult realities to rejoice, heal and love together is crucial. Investing in corporate fantasies and confusing them with our movements is detrimental.

 

Blah blah....I am waiting to hear you say something significant about this issue.  But I see it's YOU who want the attention.  Cuz you could have ignore it and let it fly away. However, you didn't for a reason.

 

11. The image of backup dancers holding a sign for Mario Woods was made possible because Black Lives Matter activists ran onto the field and handed the sign to them. The closest thing to an actual solidarity statement happened because local organizers broke through the spectacle of the Super Bowl, not Beyoncé.

And you know this....how?  And why would THAT make such a difference?  Cuz memba... the dance was rehearsed many times before the show...the song was ALREADY written.  So you really believe that because BLM organizer gave a dancer a sign that was the glue that bonded  temporary solidarity on the field?   Kneegrow pleaseeeeeeeeeeeee.

 12. Non-Black people cheering the corporatizing of Black power may not understand the urgency of the moment we are in, the need to stay vigilant against the diluting of our movement, and the implications for Black communities if our efforts are overtaken.

 

See?  I know you're drunk now.  There was no incorporating of black power.  Black power is here.  It never went nowhere.  It has been waiting in suspension for the new generation to pick up the torch.  And to say with a straight face that nonblack people may not UNDERSTAND the urgency the movement we're in...is just not true.  They UNDERSTAND.  They just don't care.  Only an immature person would convey such a statement.  And why should WE care if they DON'T understand?  That's their problem.

13. There is a long history of Black celebrities advocating for Black movements. Eartha Kitt, Muhammad Ali, Lena Horne are folks we think of first as athletes and movie stars, yet who used their celebrity to publicly defy the state and advocate for Black communities, at times at great personal risk, and to the detriment of their careers. Do not compare them to Beyoncé basking in the publicity of a halftime show.

What? I gotta reread that again.  I think I missed something.  First bobo.  No one is comparing any body...that's you and your peeps.  Secondly, what Beyonce did...since you can't grab onto the concept...is continuing the black movement in HER generation's way.  We're already done the marching, the protesting, the outcry....it's NO LONGER working.  The young white generation is IGNORING racism while the Po Po is STILL killing us in droves.  Making it time for a new way. Just like back then horse and buggy.  Today?  Cars, planes and airplanes.  Better get with it or you gon be lost in space..trying to figure out where the movement has gone.  

Corporations finding creative ways to profit off a popular movement...is an affront to Black organizing, and an offensive caricature of our history.

14. Beyonce appeared in a straight-up racist video about a week before 'Formation' came out. Yes, anti-Blackness is a real issue in Desi communities. So is orientalism in Black communities. Complex though the interplay, the outcome is the irresponsible treatment of South Asian culture and people. There is nothing defensible about that, and nothing new.

Desi Community?  Oh so you're talking about her video in India.  The most racist color stuck nation in the third world...where the country won't afford its citizens toilets in their houses.  You're talking about them?  And please...do me a favor and talk simple English I don't what you're talking about when you say orientalism in black communities.  What you mean?  Oh that the desi community is afflicted with their own form of anti-blackness...like you say nothing new.  So.  what do you mean straight up racist video?  It wasn't racist to me.  It depicted the true essence of India.  They can't be mad at that.  They took her money to shoot the video...didn't they?  They gave her license to do it...didn't they?  So.    Now they're complaining?  India is the third richest third world country and yet it continues to rapes its women, shaved the heads of  its poor [Desi commumity] and make billions off the hair while refusing to take care of its homeless widows....so I don't get your connection with Beyonce doing a video in India...that YOU deem racist. 'Splain.     

15. The Super Bowl--the same as any high corporate festival--displaces the poor, and leads to heightened policing. This year's Super Bowl was actively protested by San Francisco's homeless community. Black, queer organizers who shut down the Bay Bridge in January made active connections between the revenue generated for the city by the Super Bowl, and the need to interrupt its flow. An advocate for Black power would have refused to perform, help shut down the event, or raise up the demands of community. Instead--I don't at all doubt--Beyoncé was invited in no small part to dissuade the protests city officials feared would disrupt the event.

 

That was a joke!  Two people showed up.  And Bey Bey was there.  Not to suade the folks not to protest.  But to BE THE VOICE she represents.  She is brave.  She is courage.  She is a WOMAN.  You?  None of that.  So stop hating.  

 

16. Beyoncé is light-skinned, skinny, cis, has a whole fleet of make up artists, personal trainers and professional photographers. Her team has relied on white passing to bolster her image before, and 'Formation' had plenty of its own colorism issues. You don't need her to tell you to love your nose.

 

Again.  Stop hating.  You don't know if her team DID anything.  Cuz why?  You wasn't there.  No fly on the wall.  How could you possible know?  Just conjecture as usual.   Oh so what colorism issues did you see on the performance-you wasn't specific.  I know why you weren't.  Cuz there isn't ANY!!!

17. Beyoncé is rumored to be in final negotiations to perform in Tel Aviv, even as a growing number of Black musicians, actors and writers refuse to appear in Israel in solidarity with the people of Palestine. This possibility is in no way incongruous with Beyoncé's political past-including her halftime performance. It should not surprise anyone.

 

So.  What are you saying?  Cuz Mariah flies back and forth to Tel Aviv with her Jewish boyfriend.  No body is saying anything about that.  And she could be performing while she's there.  So.  Your point?  I've learned one thing too.  When black folks hang around white people?  They are not as radical about the black causes as they are about insignificant things....like having trans women use real women's bathrooms.   Now that's what we're distracting from.  Wanna talk about that?

18. If I learned one thing this week, it is that we are starving to see ourselves in power. We yearn to celebrate the vision of it, even when we know it is a ploy, a hologram. Our hunger, no matter how potent, no matter how righteous, cannot transfigure pop stars into revolutionaries. It cannot supplement community power with what it manages to extract from corporate media.

This has no basis.  This is a young dude.  He can write a little.  But his thinking is out there.  Dude!!!  It is not black vision to celebrate celebrities.  The hologram is being in this country built from the ground up by black people and not given the same opportunity to benefit from it.  That's a hologram.  And no one is attempting to transfigure pop stars into revolutionaries.  That's how I know you are NOT black as you say you are.  Which is to me is a ploy.  A hologram.  Quite frankly you don't KNOW what can supplement community power ...as a matter of fact you don't even KNOW the true dynamics of a true revolutionary move.  Oh...you gave yourself away by saying the word "pop." I haven't heard many black folks refer to black artists as pop stars.  That's white lingo.

 19. In no way is this pop cultural propaganda about an artist's political growth, for Beyoncé is not an actual artist.

 

Haven't you heard?  Beyonce is BLACK.  Didn't you see the hot sauce in her pants?

It is about corporations finding creative ways to profit off a popular movement. It is an affront to Black organizing, and an offensive caricature of our history.

 I disagree.  This has NOTHING to do with corporations.  Who is the head of large corporations? That would be MASSA.  Massa don't wanna see no vision of black power any where under his control.  Are you crazy?  I'm not offended.  It is NOT a caricature of our history.  Oh no.  What is?  Is queer dudes like you who are trying to find ways to discredit BLACK WOMEN by any means necessary.  Cuz you are jealous.  You are JEALOUS of our POWER.   As why you try to use black issues to dismiss it.  

Here's some history.  It is BLACK WOMEN who freed black people.  They did what a lot of COWARDS like you wouldn't.  There were many black men who fought against massa....and there are many black men who met their deaths.  So if was up to black women to carry the torch of freedom for black people and they did it unselfishly without succumbing to massa's madness and without willingly bending over submissively spreading wide and took it.  Black women NEVER made black men feel guilty about that...we just went on and conquered massa for freedom in our own way...the way it was done in Africa.  And you my friend...know nothing about that.  Nothing.

20. The state has many tools to break up a movement. Scripted messaging and infiltration are key ones. If we invite corporations to take over our movements, look to network television to instruct us in our successes, we give up our power without so much as a fight. We hand it over to the exact bodies that are trying to destroy it.

Beyonce's is NOT corporate America.  And please pull your head out...cuz we are living in a day and time where media is all over.  Instead of succumb to it...LEAD with it.  That's how you conquer your enemy.  Face it.  Cuz what you will find?  Is weakness.  The story of the Oz is true.  Oz who represents power...is really a little bitty white man struggling to stay on earth as long as he can...cuz he knows his timeframe is short.  So he creates all this fantasies images that claims worth.  But it's just a distraction.

21. Beyoncé is a logo. Beyoncé is a commodity. Beyoncé is a production. Beyoncé is a distraction. Beyoncé is a ruse. Beyoncé does not actually exist.

No. You're the distraction.  You're the ruse.  And yes!  Beyonce DOES exist.  Powerfully!!  Beautifully.  But just like gay queers you think you can MINIMIZE  Black women 's worth by calling them fish...and other hateful things but the truth is gay queers like you are nothing but oreo cookies bending over in a slave's boy position at massa's door.  You're confused like the rest of gay men...thinking that having sex with other men is natural.  Cuz that's how massa got yall in the first place..thinking it's natural as he continues to have his unnatural sexual way with you.  

And to be clear, It is you who got it all wrong.  Our culture can't even depend on men like you to DEFEND us  a people.  Yall are sooooooooo busy in your gay thang that you refused...literally refuse to see the destruction around you and do something effective about it.  Yall put your gayness first and culture/race LAST.  And anytime a man[gay or not] won't/ don't defend  women and children in his culture that is clear EVIDENCE of a conquered the black man...who has been transfigured [your word not mine] into a true loyal homosexual designed by massa.  They used to call them eunuch.  Now they just call em gay and queer.  

 

22. You-not-her-are the Black visionary, the budding potential for revolution.

I disagree.  You are not the anointer of who is a black visionary and definitely not the one to say who has the budding potential for revolution.  You still have MILK on your breathe...representing a TRUE black hater.  Unfortunately, this type of hate ALWAYS comes from those who look like us.  And I think you are upset that you wasn't saved as a child.  Cuz to me?  It seems you've been preyed on.  As why YOU have no solidarity whatever so ever to your OWN people.  We women didn't do it to you. So.  Why yall hate us some much?  Uh oh.  There's that blank look again.   But!

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Beyonce's almost a billionaire; what's the point??

What's with these "men" up above pretending they're women?? Homeboy in the purple pants with his legs gaped open with muscles of The Rock. Why can't you Whatevers just go up to someone and tell them you like to plug anuses and be done with it??  The only fella that can get away with all that shit without someone dying looking at the shit, is RuPaul.

What has happened to humanity?? The hatred, the confused pluggin' and lollipopin' of the nethers, the 80 tons of makeup everyone has to wear to camouflage how ugly they really are.

How is it possible to get mental help when everyone's out of their minds? Everyone!! Even the potential LEADERS.  Insane leaders leading their insane flock. After President Obama, there'll no longer be any intelligence anywhere as far as "Leaders" go. What's waiting the wings is a continuation of the Caucasoid Slaughterers.

We're going to keep fuckin' around until there's nothing left on earth but poisoned oceans, dirt and roaches.

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  I'm enjoying this fallout regarding Beyonce's Formation Performance.  Let's put on the table shall we?  Everybody's got something to say...even the gays and it wasn't even about them.  But tried to make it like it was.  And then there are others....putting their toes in the water.  Check out on the next post..  Interesting to say the least.  But!

To Pimp A BeyHive

02/12/2016 04:41 pm ET | Updated 4 days ago

While Beyonce's SuperBowl performance seems to be the new litmus test for racism, what fascinates me most is the conviction of worship. Last weekend did not disappoint my inner-anthropologist as I watched the sheeple take formation to protect their shepherd. The Yonce effect spawned a multitude of brilliant and moving commentary, dare I join the tide.

Beyonce's success has transcended entertainment and become religion. That's not a hyperbole to those who understand the mechanics of dynamic propaganda. My critical amazement is that Queen Bey yields power solely through performance-- without even speaking.

With the exception of stating her goal was to evoke a sense of pride, Beyonce stays taciturn while self-anointed disciples speak in her defense. Entranced by how she "slays," she becomes the destined poster child for feminism, Black Live Matter and whatever is next. We are one album away from prefacing her name with "The Honorable."

I like Formation -the song (and whoever wrote it), the video (and whoever directed it) as well as the Superbowl performance (and the dancers who raised awareness of Mario Woods). It's important to separate these entities because many enthusiasts have trouble discerning the entertainer and her machine. She deserves credit for her astronomical inspiration and playing the long game of being political but let's not convolute a dance routine with a revolution. Subtract one or two lines from Formationand it's a "proud to be trap" song gilded as a "proud to be black" song.

In addition to proud heritage, the lyrics promote the white value system of a "black Bill Gates," Givenchy and Red Lobster not Eleanor Cleaver, Tracey Reese and Patti's Pies (who probably wouldn't have given her credit for the sales boost anyway). Beyonce can make you go to Red Lobster after sex but can she make you meet Killer Mike at a black bank to open up accounts for your Superbowl babies?

The reason black people take this so personal is because the struggle is real - not just in the sense of having concert dreams on a cheddar biscuit budget - there's high anxiety from all the legal landmines being added to the playing field each day. Beyonce has the privilege of beautifying the blood, death and tears of social issues while disguising consumerism in sheep's clothing. That's not to say she's a wolf, rather an astute business shepherd who knows when to announce her world tour to her sheep. Now there's nothing wrong with that, per se, but I have a problem when over-zealous Beyonce Stans re-sell me her intentions or the meaning of her product which is called art when it conveniently applies.

 

 

Bey's respectability politics operate on their own terms, allowing for her faithful followers to ascend but only to a point. The packaging may be different, but the pedagogy is all too familiar. Resist or dismiss her formula for agency and find yourself "eliminated," banished to the fringe of black intellectualism and discourse. Bey's route towards power in this sense is an ultimatum. As she addresses her listeners ("ladies"), she urges them to "get into formation," to take action, while keeping herself at the forefront as a role model and example of how both "grace" and "paper" translates into power. "Prove to me you got some coordination," she demands. Comply or be silenced. The options are clear: Utilize what Audre Lorde would call "the master's tools" or be rendered irrelevant. -Dianca London

 

 

Pardon if critical thinkers sound self-righteous. Some educated consumers wondered why some worshipers felt the need to swarm on Red Lobster on for not taking advantage of Formation's free advertising. Maybe it wasn't free, only Bey knows. I'm just curious if the BeyHive will promote the Black Panther documentary with the same tenacity or will Beyonce have to Live Stream for them?

Look, she made theme music reflective of the times, just like hundreds of songs that were the soundtrack to civil rights and black pride throughout the last 40 years of the 20th century. What's really telling is the void of conscious-minded music and videos. So now songs like "Formation" and Kendrick's "Be Alright" become highly celebrated protest anthems by default. The difference is one of those artist knows actually how to exploit their audience without it appearing as such. Sorry, I felt the energy shift. Exploit is too strong of a word, perhaps I should say "strategically capitalize." Again, it's smart and I believe it's done without malice deception yet one could argue it's executed with the gracious pretense of tithes collected by a televangelist. Damn, that implication is also too strong; mainly because I feel like her heart is in the right place and she really wants to help fight injustice but the congregation has put her pedestaled pulpit so high she has no choice but to travel by chopper.

In this Kingdom Hall of BeyHova, I'm thankful Bey & Jay are NOT abusing their power. Though they quietly support a multitude of good causes, the human nature of have-nots will never be satisfied with their unselfish acts of charity. When you're on their level of wealth, some only perceive altruism as an act of tax evasion.

I'm conveying multi-dimensional messages so let me clarify as I conclude: I'm Pro-Beyonce and Anti-Beyonce worship. Making her a deity depletes the best parts of her humanity.

This is a plea deal for how we can co-exist. Let's all stop questioning her heart. Let's stop telling her what she should do with her money. Let's agree that some people are corporations too. Let's not turn a Beyonce thank you note to a journalist into a news story, it's unethical. Let's be sensitive to constructive criticism without dismissing it as hate. Let's be respectful to Beyonce fans of all races. Let's not live in a world where SNL's Beygency skit is a reality. Let's admit Beyonce co-opted Solange's Nawlin lifestyle - relax, that was a test. To paraphrase and alter one of her husband's lesser known lyrics, let's eat our breakfast before worrying about her genitalia.

After we flawlessly wake up and eat a proper meal, let's stay woke to defend her against the police and other powers that don't "bee." Let's realize when those powers are using her to pimp us. Let's ignore the Anti-Beyonce rally on Feb 16, they don't really want it--that's why the organizer remains anonymous--and we know that follows the tradition of smiling in our faces by day and hiding under white hoods at night. Instead, let's use their rally to promote the Black Panthers documentary that airs later that night. Let's make our children watch it. I'm sure that would make Huey, Bobby, Eldridge, Fred, Kathleen, Elaine and (in the same breath) Beyonce all proud. #SayItLoud

  I hate the word pimp.  The writer in my view doesn't know what it really means.  It ain't a rap song!  The history of pimping black women is notorious in the black community...so brotha slow your roll with that name...first.  Secondly, it is clear you haven't been exposed to the black experience...cuz if you had, you will know the REVOLUTION comes in all guises, in all genres, in all political agendas, in all propaganda....  You don't have to worry this time cuz no one  is looking at Beyonce's moving genitalia.  And breakfast?  Was served long before she came on the field.  Suggesting black families watch the Black Panthers isn't gonna solve the problems we are currently having with the police.  Black Panthers were armed.  Innocent black people killed by the police were not.

Additionally, I don't know where this is coming from where folks are thinking that Beyonce has the ability to start a revolution.  The revolution  has been HERE.  Ain't no secret.  What happened on that field?  Is what happens where artists take up an important social issue....and give it VOICE which is heard around the world.  Cuz why?  It's their job.  Cuz life imitates art imitates life.  

Anyway I thought this article was kinda interesting.  How aggressive folks are in their perspectives/in their heads spinning.  And how folks really thinks every day people can be fooled.  That is really an insult to the sensibility of black folks who have fought a good fight against racism since being in the country.  Though, I am extremely proud of young people standing up for Black truth these days, I am still completely disappointed in the ones who continue to be right fighters and criticizer and throw "shade" on a person who is doing what she can to make a difference in the world for her peeps while these naysayers continue hiding behind their empty words.  Cowards!  This is the kinda stuff that used to piss blackfolks off at James Baldwin.  He would talk all that shyte while hiding in Europe for safe. Brilliant writer though.  Have to give him his props.  And a  dynamic speaker except for he a coward. 

The fact is.  Beyonce is a grown woman now.  Not a corporation but a BLACK WOMAN.  Which is real threat to those blackfolks  who don't have the balls to stand up to massa.  She is representative to what black women before her have been doing for years:  Fighting for HUMAN/CIVIL RIGHTS.  They used what they HAD to do and when to do it.  It is all about TIMING. And even though dude is  elegantly giving his version of respect to Beyonce....I however can still see the subtle stabs he is also  giving her-on the side.  Who to say she isn't the inspiration for a movement?  The catalyst to move toward more change for black people.  It only take ONE person to be the pivot force.  Who made this rule that she is not a warrior princess?  Like Harriet.  Sojourner.  Ida D, Wells.  Fighting the cause their WAY.  Thus far, these are male writers commenting on an issue they say they understand.  Clearly, they do not.  Like your mama used to say, if you can't say nothing good....SAY NOTHING. If you're not cooking...get outta the kitchen.   But! 

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Usually when there's something on TV that upsets a mutha, they change the channel. You have a remote for that; don't even have to get up, just push the button and go!!!!!

There are some crazy, crazy "leaders" in the world getting ready to shake some serious Death Rattles and getting prepared to fry some folks. That's more serious than anything else on TV these days. North Korea, Syria, Russia, the U.S. and God knows who else is getting ready to do what they do. Send heaps of folks to the Great Beyond. Perhaps all the inhabitants on the planet.

Pretty Beyonce:  

What is all this Gay Hate against Beonce' all about?  

Overlooking the profanity, how is this song "a "proud to be trap" song gilded as a "proud to be black" song"?

There are far too may young Black people making what amounts to incoherent statements and observations that are being put out there as some 'authority' to 'critic' African America, Black people and/or the Black Experience, when they do not possess enough knowledge of Black history or the Black Experience in America be held out as the "expert critic" of Black people, African America, Black History or the Black Experience in America in the first place. 

Also, there is nothing wrong with her invoking Bill Gates in reference to or as an example of a sort of success story/'rags-to-riches scenario, and because being pro-Black does not mean being anti-White any more than being pro-female means anti-male.  

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LYRICS TO BEONCE'S "FORMATION" SONG:

1. Y'all haters corny with that Illuminati mess. Paparazzi, catch my fly, and my cocky fresh.

2. I'm so reckless when I rock my Givenchy dress (stylin').

3. I'm so possessive so I rock his Roc necklaces.

4. My daddy Alabama, Momma Louisiana. You mix that Negro with that Creole make a Texas bama.

5. I like my baby hair, with baby hair and afros. I like my Negro nose with Jackson Five nostrils.

 

6. Earned all this money but they never take the country out me.

7. I got hot sauce in my bag, swag.

8. I did not come to play with you hoes.

9. I came to slay, bitch.

 

10. I like cornbreads and collard greens, bitch. Oh, yes, you best to believe it.

11. This whole glorious bit, which is your new anthem:

I see it, I want it
I stunt, yeah, little hornet
I dream it, I work hard
I grind 'til I own it
I twirl all my haters
Albino alligators
El Camino with the ceiling low
Sippin' Cuervo with no chaser
Sometimes I go off, I go off
I go hard, I go hard
Get what's mine, take what's mine
I'm a star, I'm a star
'Cause I slay, slay
I slay, hey, I slay, OK
I slay, OK, all day, OK
I slay, OK, I slay, OK
We gon' slay, slay
Gon' slay, OK
We slay, OK
I slay, OK
I slay, OK
OK, OK, I slay, OK
OK, OK, OK, OK

12. OK, OK, ladies, now let's get in formation, 'cause I slay.

13. OK, ladies, now let's get in formation, 'cause I slay.

14. Prove to me you got some coordination. Slay trick, or you get eliminated.

 

15. When he fuck me good I take his ass to Red Lobster, 'cause I slay.

16. If he hit it right, I might take him on a flight on my chopper, 'cause I slay.

17. Drop him off at the mall, let him buy some J's, let him shop up, 'cause I slay.

18. I might get your song played on the radio station, 'cause I slay. (I might get your song played on the radio station, 'cause I slay.)

 

19. You might just be a black Bill Gates in the making, cause I slay. I might just be a black Bill Gates in the making, cause I slay.

20. You know you that bitch when you cause all this conversation.

21. And finally, your new Facebook status: Always stay gracious, best revenge is your paper.

(OK, fine. That was all the lyrics. I kinda cheated, but really. It's perfection.)

RELATED: Watch Beyoncé Perform "Formation" at the Super Bowl Halftime Show

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Kocolicious posted:

Sista Sunnubian wrote:  What is all this Gay Hate against Beonce' all about?  

 

  JEALOUSY!!!! Green Eye ENVY.  Cuz can't nobody do it like a BLACK woman.  A beautiful STRONG black WOMAN.  But!

Yeah, it's that old competition thing. Bitch fest gay says he's the real artist and real revolutionary but not Beyonce  and he can prove it with headache manifesto. Promise to wake me when it's over.

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