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fro I was asked that question just YESTERDAY. For me it starts with how blackfolks treat EACH OTHER. We have to begin respecting each other first/again....and then it will resinate onto the outer element socially, financially and ethnically. Cuz many of us have issues. Big time. If we don't face it and deal with it...this little window of opportunity that is currently open for us....will eventually close up so tight...air won't be able to get in. fro
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Originally posted by kevin1122:
In a few days the United States of America will have it's first black President. What effect if any; do you think this will have on the black citizens of this country?


I think we've discussed the effect of Obama's presidency on numerous occasions. We've talked about the impact that this historical event has already had on all Americans. The most obvious being a renewed hope and faith in American democracy, knowing that for the first time in America's history, someone other than a White male with a privileged background will run the country. Again and again, we've heard a countless number of Black parents say that for the first time ever, they can now tell their children that they can be anyone they choose to be, even the president of the country in which they live and pay taxes, which should have been their right all along.

But more importantly, since we are having this discussion in an African-American discussion forum, I think the effect that an African-American president has had on African Americans in particular, is our belief in ourselves, our intelligence, our dreams, our hopes for the future, and our ability to make a major and positive contribution to society at large has all been renewed. Obama represents hope. Plain and simple. Hope for America. Hope for the African-American community. Hope for what America can become, if we continue to uphold and honor the principles of justice, democracy, and freedom that this country is supposed to represent.
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Originally posted by Rowe:
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Originally posted by kevin1122:
In a few days the United States of America will have it's first black President. What effect if any; do you think this will have on the black citizens of this country?


I think we've discussed the effect of Obama's presidency on numerous occasions. We've talked about the impact that this historical event has already had on all Americans. The most obvious being a renewed hope and faith in American democracy, knowing that for the first time in America's history, someone other than a White male with a privileged background will run the country. Again and again, we've heard a countless number of Black parents say that for the first time ever, they can now tell their children that they can be anyone they choose to be, even the president of the country in which they live and pay taxes, which should have been their right all along.

But more importantly, since we are having this discussion in an African-American discussion forum, I think the effect that an African-American president has had on African Americans in particular, is our belief in ourselves, our intelligence, our dreams, our hopes for the future, and our ability to make a major and positive contribution to society at large has all been renewed. Obama represents hope. Plain and simple. Hope for America. Hope for the African-American community. Hope for what America can become, if we continue to uphold and honor the principles of justice, democracy, and freedom that this country is supposed to represent.


We have stopped representing freedom a while back. Obama is no change from the repression of George bush. The constitution still cries as government spending increases and liberties decrease. Sad to say, but i see no difference in the transition from the GW presidency to the Obama presidency.

I want to, but it will be the same ol same ol in Washington.
'Our first 'black' President' means that is 'recognized by himself and all others'...of course.

The critical issue then is 'the recognition'.

And that is the difference.

That difference of 'recognition' means we, as a people, are impacted within ourselves by that recognition.

It is visceral.

It is throughout the entire African American population.

And...let's not forget all those who are of common 'history and circumstance' who as hiding from their identity.

And that is just a beginning of the list of effects of an Obama Presidency.

The issue-related items are almost endless.

Consider that all...ALL...decisions made by federal agencies must now put the consideration of the effect of their decisions on African Americans...high on the list.

Why?

Because...all federal agencies are under the direct...and immediate...authority of the President.

PEACE

Jim Chester
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Originally posted by kevin1122:
In a few days the United States of America will have it's first black President. What effect if any; do you think this will have on the black citizens of this country?

Kevin


I see it as a crap-shoot! I couldn't even begin to hazard a guess as to what the answer to that question might be.

I was astounded daily at the reaction of Black folks to him during the election process. Never a dull moment with my people! Smile

I can see a situation where Black people will do whatever Obama tells them to do! The problem with that, though, is that it may be politically unwise for him to talk directly 'to us' which means we would continue to sit and wait for something that's not gonna happen.

I can also see a situation where he does offer instruction ... but, many of us will not like what he has to say!! Then there'll probably be a lot of head/eye-rolling, attitude, the 'you can't tel me what to do' mentality would come out ... and that would make things an uphill battle at the very least!

However ... many, many more of us soaked in the process and became much more politically savvy because of what Barack (and Michelle) have done ... which I see as an unpredictable factor. Since we've never been quite so 'armed for battle' as we are today, there's no telling what might actually come of that.

So .... I don't know! But .... I'm gonna be sitting on the edge of my seat, watching to see which way this is all gonna play out! munch That much I do know! Big Grin
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Originally posted by kevin1122:
In a few days the United States of America will have it's first black President. What effect if any; do you think this will have on the black citizens of this country?

Kevin


The effect will be that whites (of all ethnic backgrounds) will now have an excuse to revert back to their racialist behaviors without addressing the contiued inequalities against black/africanamerican people. The Obama presidency should wake black people up.
I don't like saying this because I totally supported and voted for the man, BUT he's not going to do anything unless we MAKE HIM!
Here's a story of the hope of things to come .. at least for the citizens of Washington, D.C.


Barack Obama Becoming a Real Resident of Washington D.C.

Date: Monday, January 12, 2009
By: Michael H. Cottman, BlackAmericaWeb.com




After President-Elect Barack Obama is sworn into office on Jan. 20, black D.C. residents are looking forward to using one endearing word to welcome America’s first black president: Neighbor.

Unlike previous presidents who symbolically called D.C. home between trips across the nation and across the world, many black D.C. residents are hoping Obama will naturally embrace black D.C. - and the culture, lifestyle and politics that goes with it.

One of Obama’s close friends is D.C. Mayor Adrian Fenty, who announced his support for Obama back in 2007 and expects Obama to be a friend of D.C. "He is deeply committed to Washington, D.C., and to big cities and urban issues across the country," Fenty said when endorsing Obama.

In 2007, Fenty opened Obama’s D.C. headquarters in Southeast D.C., where many black neighborhoods are situated near a stalled multi-million-dollar Southwest Waterfront project designed to build 500 homes and revive blocks of urban blight.

Saturday afternoon, Fenty joined Obama for a bite to eat at Ben's Chili Bowl, a legendary District eatery on U Street NW.

The expectation is that Obama - already at ease in big cities from his time in Chicago - will venture into town more than President George W. Bush, who rarely made forays into unofficial Washington.

For many black D.C. residents, part of Obama’s appeal is his steadfast pledge to support voting rights for D.C. residents, an emotional and sometimes thorny issue that has been largely ignored by congressional lawmakers.

Presidents who have preceded Obama have lobbied for voting rights for D.C., but did not speak with as much conviction as some blacks would have liked. Obama, some maintain, may be more vocal and use his influence to move Congress to action.

In fact, D.C. Del. Eleanor Holmes Norton is urging Congress to pass a voting rights bill by Feb. 12, the bicentennial of Abraham Lincoln’s birthday. Norton is asking Congress for quick approval of the D.C. Voting Rights Act, which would give the District of Columbia a House seat.

Obama has signaled to Fenty and Norton that he supports voting rights for the District and that D.C. would have an advocate in the White House.

Black D.C. residents said they’d like to see Obama blend into the fabric of D.C. – mingling with black folks at local restaurants, community events and perhaps gatherings at the homes of some of D.C’s most influential black residents.

“Since he is the first black president, everything he does will be groundbreaking and historical,” Blanche Williams, a broadcast journalist and commentator, told BlackAmericaWeb.com.

“I think the previous administrations should be ashamed of their willingness to allow the nation’s capitol to fall into such disarray, including high rates of violence, poverty, business closings, regentrification, AIDS and more,” Williams said.

“D.C. black folks are in line for a real makeover,” she added. “I don’t see Obama allowing his neighborhood home to be in such a state. He is raising a nation as he raises a family. Obama may very well be the last great hope for America to spark a future reflective of positive change.”

Craig Kirby, a Democratic strategist, told BlackAmericaWeb.com he believes Obama will spend a good amount of time in D.C. because of his two daughters.

“They are of the age when kids want to get out and explore, and this city has lots of opportunities for them to explore,” Kirby said. “I do think Obama will explore parts of the city that other presidents may not have found to be as interesting.”

But Michelle Bernard, president of the conservative Washington, D.C.-based Independent Women’s Voice, told BlackAmericaWeb.com Obama may treat the District as other leaders before him.

“It is unlikely that Barack Obama’s race or friendship with Mayor Adrian Fenty of the District of Columbia will alter that type of relationship we have seen between presidents and the District of Columbia,” Bernard said.

Bernard said she does expect to see Obama and his family at popular venues like Ben’s Chili Bowl, Cake Love or other favorites in D.C.’s U Street corridor. She said these types of outings will be good for the community and for tourism.”

“First and foremost, he will be the president of the United States,” Bernard added. “In his role as president, I strongly suspect that he will become a part of the community as other presidents have, in terms of dining out at restaurants, hosting play dates for his daughters at the White House, and even attending parent teacher conferences in town.”

On Saturday, Obama was getting familiar with the D.C. community while hanging out with Fenty at Ben’s.

After Obama's motorcade wandered through the U street district, passing the African-American Civil War Memorial and a flea market selling shirts that bear his face, he and Fenty surprised the restaurant around lunchtime.

Patrons shrieked with delight and surprise as they saw his face. A mother blushed as Obama held her baby in his arms. The president-elect and the mayor moved slowly through the restaurant's crowded rooms, shaking hands and getting pictures taken with patrons.

And it appeared Obama felt at home. Fenty told a television reporter that Obama "enjoyed the food and the company."



Associated Press contributed to this story.
fro As they say..."the world wasn't built in a day." Obama is not the messiah...he is ONE man...the FIRST African American President! He is NOT the savior and he sho' in hell can't undo what massa has DONE for over 400 years...impossible! Blackfolks need to stop thinking in "movie magic terms" i.e.... this will turn around in just a few years....look how long it took us to get free....and how it took us to have civil rights....so clearly it's unreasonable to THINK one black man can CLEAN UP the HUGE mess of several whitefolks since the founding of this country! Pleassssssse!

Believe or not, the superhero does not exist, and IF we want change, we got to do what our forefathers/mothers did in the PAST, get our azzes out there and do the focking work! Otherwise, just cuz he's President won't change a thang, it will STILL be another day in the hood!

BTW: Me myself I grow tired of hearing blackfolks put all the weight of change on ONE person...when we know, shown right in our LONG history in this country, that it has taken A LOT OF US to make CHANGE[whiteboy didn't give us shyte!]....so...why is THIS [having a Black President]any different?Confused fro
For the last twenty years, I had always perceived Washington, D.C. as the last operating plantation of the antebellum South.

'The District' was created to be set apart from any sovereign jurisdiction..e.g. the States of both Maryland and Virginia.

'The District' is owned and operated by the United States government.

The slums of the city used to 'run' right to the back property line of the White House itself.

All of the city government is 'titular'...at best.

What a President Obama decides to do with his family's functions in 'The District' will be earthshaking...whatever he choses to do.

Will choose a church to attend regularly, or to be the family's church?

We already know he will visit 'Ben's Chili Bowl' from time-to-time.

We can be assured he will similarly visit African American churches...from time-to-time.

This will 'shake' the media...of course.

And, oh yes.

Where do you think mother-in-law is going to go to church?

I will bet the farm she is not going to 'mess around' with the concept of having no particular church to go to.

She will choose a 'church home'...away from home.

Oh she will visit...occasionally.

The Obama Family will have a dramatic impact on 'Life in The District'.

PEACE

Jim Chester
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Originally posted by Ted:
We have stopped representing freedom a while back. Obama is no change from the repression of George bush. The constitution still cries as government spending increases and liberties decrease. Sad to say, but i see no difference in the transition from the GW presidency to the Obama presidency. I want to, but it will be the same ol same ol in Washington.


Ted, welcome to the site, and you are certainly entitled to your skeptical opinion, but personally, I'd rather wait to see how Obama will play out his term as president before I make any judgements.
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Originally posted by kevin1122:
In a few days the United States of America will have it's first black President. What effect if any; do you think this will have on the black citizens of this country?

As a Black man takes control over the most oppressive regime in modern history, I am sure Black folks will be pregnant with pride and joy. It will be like the celebration in Harlem when the other first Black president moved into office space on 125th Street, except on a much larger scale.
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Originally posted by Shango67:
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Originally posted by kevin1122:
In a few days the United States of America will have it's first black President. What effect if any; do you think this will have on the black citizens of this country?

As a Black man takes control over the most oppressive regime in modern history, I am sure Black folks will be pregnant with pride and joy. It will be like the celebration in Harlem when the other first Black president moved into office space on 125th Street, except on a much larger scale.


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I hear ya, Shango. I remember how many blacks were gleeful when Clinton arrived in Harlem to set up shop - advocating how is presence would be beneficial. Today, black Harlemites aren't so enthusiastic about that move.

I traveled back to NY to see my family last November. Had a chance to visit Harlem for the first time in years. My first thought was, "what happened to all the blacks"? Yeah... Clinton brought to Harlem gentrification, high rent and an exodus of blacks that have lived in Harlem for decades. Bottom line is, black folk be careful what you wish for.
Correction: 14th.

However, he will be the 1st in this Century as there were 6 last century and 7 the century before that! That being said, on Tuesday a man will be sworn in as President who just happens to be black.

I have no illusions about him or what I think or hope he may or may not do, because I know he is a puppet and therefore, will do what the puppetmasters "tell" him that he must do or suffer the consequences...!
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Originally posted by Ma'at:

However, he will be the 1st in this Century as there were 6 last century and 7 the century before that! That being said, on Tuesday a man will be sworn in as President who just happens to be black.


You know ... I never quite understood that "just happens ..." thing. 19

Is there some train of thought that says that these people are Black by accident? Confused
..."The effect will be that whites (of all ethnic backgrounds) will now have an excuse to revert back to their racialist behaviors without addressing the contiued inequalities against black/africanamerican people. The Obama presidency should wake black people up.
I don't like saying this because I totally supported and voted for the man, BUT he's not going to do anything unless we MAKE HIM!.." Yemaya.


I agree with that. I'm noticing an increase in passive-aggressive communication from whites, specifically women in my neck of the woods.

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