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CF wrote:
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If you all are so comfortable in your position WHY DO YOU SPEND SO MUCH TIME ENFORCING IT ON OTHER BLACKS rather than having them come to this conclusion absent so much pressure to remain "united"?


I recall watching and interview of John McCain complaing about his supporters being punished economically after his failed bid for the presidential nomination. Is this the kind of pressure you are talking about? LOL

umbra

The WHITE BOY Statement of The Week:


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The Black community will CHANGE whatever the popular sentiment IS when THE BLACK COMMUNITY places RESULTS above LOYALTY TO SOME IDEOLOGY.

If you all are so comfortable in your position WHY DO YOU SPEND SO MUCH TIME ENFORCING IT ON OTHER BLACKS rather than having them come to this conclusion absent so much pressure to remain "united"?


I guess this is like "pressure" is like Saddam Hussein's "imposition" of Islamic Law or something... Something you just claim to be so because of how you see the world through WHITE BOY Glasses.

I mean, here we are, again, with yet another one of your CONTRADICTIONS and (( GAPING HOLES!! ))

You relayed some dumb ass, incoherent, ENGLISH poor story about your high school basketball team and peers on your The Strong Gravitational Pull Of The IGNORANT thread. Yet, your very situation CONTRADICTS that BS you want to suggest because you were not "pulled in" nore were you "pressured"... in the story you relayed. So what "pressure" and what "enforcing" are you talking about "WHITE BOY???"

I mean, only someone DUMB (and sorry) and/or WHITE actually thinks there is this "pressure" you talk about in the sweeping, indiscriminate fashion that you do. And you made those claims, suggested that EP "spends so much time enforcing" and pressuring "other Blacks" (spoken just like a WHITE BOY) to remain "united." Please list those activities or STFU!!

Also, what exactly is your rhetoric about if not for Black people to be "unified" in taking what you consider the best approach?? I mean, you've done shown, pretty clearly, that you have been about nothing but TWO FRONTIN' - i.e. claiming you believe in TWO FRONTS while placing all your rhetoric-eggs in a One Front Basket. Now, it's clear that your futile efforts, the whole purpose of your rhetoric is to force, pressure... hell, beg people to unite along your empty and fake (transparent) ass ideas.

You've obviously haven't maintain what you claimed. You've been TWO FRONTIN' all along.

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Negro-CON... You know you don't believe that and never subscribed to that idea. If you did, you would not begrudge, bemoan, detest or otherwise be so disturbed by any of those who BATTLE ON A DIFFERENT FRONT from you -- those who don't function from your philosophical and ideological platform.

You would not have any disparaging remarks for anyone whom you characterize as only having ideas that require/ask WHITE FOLKS TO CHANGE... I mean, you did call that one of the TWO *interrelated* and non-mutually exclusive FRONTS, so really... I'm your MIRROR MAN and I'm working overtime showing you your ugly ass all the time... because you like showing (and exposing) your raw, dumb shitty ASS all the time.

Do you believe in TWO FRONTS or not CON-Feed??
Since it's clear you DO NOT... Why in the hell did you try to fake the the funk back then?

Was it the PRESSURE??
The Strong Gravitational Pull from within you to act IGNORANT?? bump
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Constructive Feedback--
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I say to you IF YOU GAVE A DAMN ABOUT BLACK PEOPLE you would note that in the past 30 years AFFIRMATIVE ACTION HAS BEEN "GIVEN" AND THEN TAKEN AWAY.


We, the blaq collective have no power to give nor to take away affirmative action -- therefore your statement does not hold water or oil..

So whether any one in the blaq collective gives a damn is irrelevent...!
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Originally posted by Constructive Feedback:
Some of you don't mind IGNORANT BLACK PEOPLE.


I do, YOU are an ignorant Black person.

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You are more threatened by Blacks WHO CHALLENGE YOU AND ASK QUESTIONS OF YOU.


Don't you get it? I don't care about you challenging me, what I care about, is that you support ideas WHICH DO NOT BENEFIT OUR COMMUNITY!!

I don't mind that you believe in different things than me, I care that you believe in things which do not aid our Community, then have the gall to suggest that your ideas should be embraced by us even though they are merely ideals for self-interest, not any type of communal effect.

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This is why more time is spent attacking "Black Conservatives" at any mass gathering of Black Quasi-Socialist Progressive Fundamentalists than the time spent actually DEMONSTRATING TO THE CROWD WHAT THEY STAND FOR.


I attack Black Conservatives because they support racist White Conservatives (THEY NEVER, EVER DISAGREE WITH THEIR WHITE CONSERVATIVE COUNTERPARTS) and openly apologize for the racist actions of White Conservatives, then paint the Black Community as a community of n'er-do-wells in front of their White friends and claim that we are all a bunch of lazy, ignorant niggers who fail at life because we don't embrace Conservative ideals.

You demonize your own community, and defend people who wish to do us harm, then rail against us for not embracing their ideals. Your whole logic is, "Can't you people see? No one is oppressing you except yourselves. White people aren't oppressing you, they just won't help you because you all are lazy good-for-nothings. And they are justified in doing so."

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Again - The Black community will CHANGE whatever the popular sentiment IS when THE BLACK COMMUNITY places RESULTS above LOYALTY TO SOME IDEOLOGY.


So what's your excuse for placing loyalty to some ideology over results? What good results would come from loyalty to the GOP?

YOU CAN'T HIDE YOUR SNAIL-TALK. LIKE SALT ON A SNAIL'S BACK, I'M SHRIVELING YOU UP. YOU COMPLAIN ABOUT OUR "LOYALTY TO AN IDEOLOGY" BECAUSE YOU ARE ANGRY THAT OUR LOYALTY IS NOT TO YOUR IDEOLOGY.


Please post some scientific results of what Conservative ideology would do for our community.

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If you all are so comfortable in your position WHY DO YOU SPEND SO MUCH TIME ENFORCING IT ON OTHER BLACKS rather than having them come to this conclusion absent so much pressure to remain "united"?


QUESTION: WHAT FUCKING IDEOLOGY ARE WE SUPPOSEDLY SO DAMN LOYAL TO?
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EP,

CF will ignore your entire post above and jump right to
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QUESTION: WHAT FUCKING IDEOLOGY ARE WE SUPPOSEDLY SO DAMN LOYAL TO?
because it will allow him to set up a strawman, while avoiding
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Please post some scientific results of what Conservative ideology would do for our community.
and
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Your whole logic is, "Can't you people see? No one is oppressing you except yourselves. White people aren't oppressing you, they just won't help you because you all are lazy good-for-nothings. And they are justified in doing so."


And absolutely avoiding having to actually provide any type of strategy, other than some fanciful, highly speculative, theoretic [based on junk economics] disconnected thoughts.
Confession from an ex Black Conservative

I used to have problems with Affimative Action. I was one of those people who'd refuse on principle to apply for a minority scholarship because I thought it meant I wasn't as good.

Mind you, I was never as brainwashed as Constructive Feedback but I was more conservative than I am now.

Then I saw the light: White folks and black wannabees (s)elected George W. Bush for the Presidency and then I knew the truth:

White Folks - in particular foes of Affirmative Action - had NO PROBLEM AT ALL WITH MEDIOCRITY AS LONG AS IT LOOKED JUST LIKE THEM!!!!!!!!!!

George W. Bush is the most UNQUALIFIED AND UNWORTHY individual EVER in the history of jobs.

His Administration reveals for all to see the truth of the conservative Anti-AA rhetoric.

It's about white racism and the continuance of white privilege and, in the case of the Black Conservative, it's about the low self-esteem of people who've bought into white racist rhetoric about black folk.
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Originally posted by HonestBrother:
Confession from an ex Black Conservative

I used to have problems with Affimative Action. I was one of those people who'd refuse on principle to apply for a minority scholarship because I thought it meant I wasn't as good.

Mind you, I was never as brainwashed as Constructive Feedback but I was more conservative than I am now.

Then I saw the light: White folks and black wannabees (s)elected George W. Bush for the Presidency and then I knew the truth:

White Folks - in particular foes of Affirmative Action - had NO PROBLEM AT ALL WITH MEDIOCRITY AS LONG AS IT LOOKED JUST LIKE THEM!!!!!!!!!!

George W. Bush is the most UNQUALIFIED AND UNWORTHY individual EVER in the history of jobs.

His Administration reveals for all to see the truth of the conservative Anti-AA rhetoric.

It's about white racism and the continuance of white privilege and, in the case of the Black Conservative, it's about the low self-esteem of people who've bought into white racist rhetoric about black folk.


Thank you Honest Brother! Smile

Yes, White folks have a problem with Affirmative Action because it will benefit Minorities instead of just White people. White people have no problem with WHITE Affirmative Action (White Skin Privilege).

White Conservatives don't hate "hand-outs" like they claim, they just hate "hand-outs" that go to people they don't like. They have no problem benefitting from White Skin Privilege, corporate handouts from the federal government, and social benefits like 401k, subsidized work transit, health care and medicare for elderly White Republicans.
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Originally posted by Kweli4Real:
EP,

CF will ignore your entire post above and jump right to
quote:
QUESTION: WHAT FUCKING IDEOLOGY ARE WE SUPPOSEDLY SO DAMN LOYAL TO?
because it will allow him to set up a strawman, while avoiding
quote:
Please post some scientific results of what Conservative ideology would do for our community.
and
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Your whole logic is, "Can't you people see? No one is oppressing you except yourselves. White people aren't oppressing you, they just won't help you because you all are lazy good-for-nothings. And they are justified in doing so."


And absolutely avoiding having to actually provide any type of strategy, other than some fanciful, highly speculative, theoretic [based on junk economics] disconnected thoughts.


I agree. Whenver a snail gets salt poured on it, it's natural defense is to pull itself further into its shell, which is what CF is doing now.

He is squirming, because we are forcing him to face some nasty, unsettling truths about himself.
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Originally posted by HonestBrother:
Years of being a college teacher have also done me a world of good. I know for a fact that their kids AREN'T all geniuses. Far from it.


**I have been one for about 11 years now.....I also went to integrated schols in Texas that were ranked really high in their day...between that and working in various professions...has shown me how mediocre they are.....how they work to give the ILLUSION of intellect...and how negroes who see whiteness as something to aspire upwards to buy into that schit....now CF makes his statements but runs from a rebuttal to them time and time again......I tried to communicate with his happy slave azz....but he'll never step up and face the music.....so CF is no more than the scorned bitch who has been fucked and tossed aside because she was stupid......and complains about being tossed without ever examining the validity in the reasons they were told they were stupid in the first place.....so fuck him...he's been exposed for who he is to many times to even bother with anymore...i can list about 7 specific questions I have asked him at least over 50 times.............and the confession from an ex-unalike is what they all notice.but some negroes want to be white people soooo bad.....they are willing to be flunkies, underlings and affiliated with the very same people who relegated their parents to the colored section.......
CF
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I assume that it is also NOT WISE to DEPEND on your "adversary" to EDUCATE YOUR SOLDIERS who will go to battle? Please tell this to the "Wacky Professor" on the board.


--This statement has no relevancy to the subject/topic presented to this forum... giveup

--"YOUR" knee grow/conservative viewpoints are a serious detriment to the blaq collective-at-large....!
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I know for a fact that their kids AREN'T all geniuses.


I didn't learn to play chess until I started high school. Freshman year some White boys would refuse to play me saying, "You're no challenge." By the second semester junior year a lot of the White boys wouldn't play me. I would kick their a$$es. That includes the boys that became the valedictorian and salutatorian. That cracked me up. When I became a challenge they wouldn't play.

I couldn't be salutatorian of course, I got straight Ds in religion freshman year. The palefaces can go to heaven without me. lol

umbra
I posted this some time ago and got virtually no comments.

http://africanamericansovereignty.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=13

Rule by Secrecy by Jim Marrs
http://www.raven1.net/rulbysec.htm
The Art of War by Sun Tzu translated and edited by Thomas Cleary
Mastering The Art of War " " " "
http://www.sciencesbookreview.com/Mastering_the_Art_of_...ions_0877735131.html
Your Money or Your Life by Joe Dominguez
http://www.simpleliving.net/ymoyl/default.asp

When people don't agree on what is really going on in the world it is hard to plan. Vague general statements about economics, jobs, education and racism don't cut it.

I include URLs so it is almost effortless to obtain alternate opinions, though you can assume I'll find references that support my opinion. How dumb do you think I am?

Don't answer that! LOL

umbra

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