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Yeah I did it. I dont give a damn that I did it. I've had it. I'm out on another "lunch date" when once again I gotta deal with a NIGGA that watched "Menance to Society" one to many fucking times! Mofo wants to "spit game" at my date. I don't care. She wants to go with him, we're just friends, thats her choice. She was uninterested in him (and who can blame her?). Then jackass wants to call her a bitch and me a "corny ass brotha". Funny how this "corny ass brotha" had "Mr. Hard" in a middle finger joint lock and apologizing to my date. Afternoon went downhill fast after that. After the incident we're in the car and she tells me "Did you have to damn near break his finger?" I'm sorry, I could of took my salad fork and put it thru his damn jugular but I felt like being nice today. Screw it. You know I have low opinion of the human race anyway, so all this did was prove me right. It aint worth it. Do the honorable thing, you get a spanish inquistion about it. Let disrespect get a pass and you get labeled a punk or whatever. I better not get a fucking phone call for the rest of the day if the world knows whats good for it. Soon as I go pick my daughter up from mom's house, we are on lockdown. The rest of the world can go to hell in gasoline drawers. I'm done. Oh look, Gambit showed some emotion, happy now world?
"Knowing is not enough, we must apply. Willing is not enough, we must do."----Bruce Lee "The Tao of Jeet Kune Do"
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See I was resting at the park minding my own
business as I kick up the treble tone
on my radio tape player box, right
just loud enough so folks could hear it's hype, see ?
Outta nowhere comes the woman I'm dating
investigation maybe she was demonstrating
But nevertheless I was pleased
My day was going great and my soul was at ease
until a group of brothers started bugging out
drinking the 40 oz, going the nigga route
Disrespecting my black queen
holding their crotches and being obscene

At first I ignored them cause see I know their type
They got drunk and got guns and they wanna fight
and they see a young couple having a time that's good
and their egos wanna test a brother's manhood
So they came to test Speech cause of my hair-do
and the loud bright colors that I wear [Boo !]
I was a target cause I'm a fashion misfit
and the outfit that I'm wearing brothers dissing it
Well I stay calm and pray the niggaz leave me be
but they're squeezing parts of my date's anatomy
Why, Lord, do brothers have to drill me ?
Cause if I start to hit this man they'll have to kill me


[CHORUS:] I am everyday people (2x)

I told the niggaz please let us pass, friend
I said please cause I don't like killing Africans
but he wouldn't stop and I ain't Ice Cube
but I had to take the brother out for being rude
and like I said before I was mad by then
It took three or four cops to pull me off of him
But that's the story y'all of a black man
acting like a nigga and get stomped by an African

[CHORUS]
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Originally posted by HonestBrother:
See I was resting at the park minding my own
business as I kick up the treble tone
on my radio tape player box, right
just loud enough so folks could hear it's hype, see ?
Outta nowhere comes the woman I'm dating
investigation maybe she was demonstrating
But nevertheless I was pleased
My day was going great and my soul was at ease
until a group of brothers started bugging out
drinking the 40 oz, going the nigga route
Disrespecting my black queen
holding their crotches and being obscene

At first I ignored them cause see I know their type
They got drunk and got guns and they wanna fight
and they see a young couple having a time that's good
and their egos wanna test a brother's manhood
So they came to test Speech cause of my hair-do
and the loud bright colors that I wear [Boo !]
I was a target cause I'm a fashion misfit
and the outfit that I'm wearing brothers dissing it
Well I stay calm and pray the niggaz leave me be
but they're squeezing parts of my date's anatomy
Why, Lord, do brothers have to drill me ?
Cause if I start to hit this man they'll have to kill me


[CHORUS:] I am everyday people (2x)

I told the niggaz please let us pass, friend
I said please cause I don't like killing Africans
but he wouldn't stop and I ain't Ice Cube
but I had to take the brother out for being rude
and like I said before I was mad by then
It took three or four cops to pull me off of him
But that's the story y'all of a black man
acting like a nigga and get stomped by an African

[CHORUS]

yeah ( I fucking love this song!)

Gambit, you were absolutely right punkin' that damn fool! She may or may not respect that. But, it doesn't matter... it's a man thang! We handle our business our way. She can cope, deal, or skate... whatever. You did the right thing. tfro
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My day was going great and my soul was at ease
until a group of brothers started bugging out
drinking the 40 oz, going the nigga route
Disrespecting my black queen
holding their crotches and being obscene


wow.... sounds just like the boys at my school (i'm serious)

KEEP YOUR KIDS OUT OF PUBLIC SCHOOL. THIS HAS BEEN A PUBLIC ANNOUNCEMENT SPONSORED BY THE CARIBBEAN FLAVORED FOUNDATION.
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Originally posted by xxGAMBITxx:
Yeah I did it. I dont give a damn that I did it. I've had it. I'm out on another "lunch date" when once again I gotta deal with a NIGGA that watched "Menance to Society" one to many fucking times! Mofo wants to "spit game" at my date. I don't care. She wants to go with him, we're just friends, thats her choice. She was uninterested in him (and who can blame her?). Then jackass wants to call her a bitch and me a "corny ass brotha". Funny how this "corny ass brotha" had "Mr. Hard" in a middle finger joint lock and apologizing to my date. Afternoon went downhill fast after that. After the incident we're in the car and she tells me "Did you have to damn near break his finger?" I'm sorry, I could of took my salad fork and put it thru his damn jugular but I felt like being nice today. Screw it. You know I have low opinion of the human race anyway, so all this did was prove me right. It aint worth it. Do the honorable thing, you get a spanish inquistion about it. Let disrespect get a pass and you get labeled a punk or whatever. I better not get a fucking phone call for the rest of the day if the world knows whats good for it. Soon as I go pick my daughter up from mom's house, we are on lockdown. The rest of the world can go to hell in gasoline drawers. I'm done. Oh look, Gambit showed some emotion, happy now world?



People are not respecting each other, and its getting worst.

Im increasing seeing more men disrespect each other in this way. When im on a date, etc, other men will flirt, etc. I just ignore it. I know that 'some' women are known to do this....(they see a man with a date, his wife, etc...and they are trying to grab his attention, flirting, etc) But men??

Whats going on?



In any case, Gambit.......i've calmed down a lot. A person call me a 'bitch', i laugh and keep it moving. I want you to do the same. spank
lol @HB. Thanks BV, Ebony & Jasmine. tfro

Art: She might just think that. LOL! Life goes on though. bsm

QTY: I can no longer do it. I've been calm. These morons just use that as thier excuse to act up. I might as well put my training to good use. Negros don't respect common sense but I'll bet they'll respect broken bones and possible internal bleeding.

Oh I see you like that knife saying I picked up. appl Cool

It's one of my favorites! tfro
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Originally posted by HonestBrother:
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Originally posted by xxGAMBITxx:
Oh I see you like that knife saying I picked up. appl Cool

It's one of my favorites! tfro


Reminds me of some Wu Tang wisdom I once heard

"I gotcha back, but you best to watch your front
Cause it's the niggaz that front, they be pullin stunts"


Ahhh..the Wu.... bow

The good ole days...how I miss them. dance
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Originally posted by xxGAMBITxx:
Yeah I did it. Funny how this "corny ass brotha" had "Mr. Hard" in a middle finger joint lock and apologizing to my date. After the incident we're in the car and she tells me "Did you have to damn near break his finger?" You know I have low opinion of the human race anyway, so all this did was prove me right. Soon as I go pick my daughter up from mom's house...


Brother Gamit, I don't mean to question your qualification as a father, but I'm really concerned about your child being parented by someone who finds it acceptable to respond this way to confrontation. I'm sure you know that being a responsible parent is more than simply providing a child with food and shelter. A responsible parent must also model the attitude and behaviors that are necessary to be a resilent and productive member of society. Going around breaking people's fingers because they approach some women that you're dating is unacceptable behavior. And for someone who has a "low opinion of humanity" you're not doing much to improve the condition of humanity by behaving this way. One piece of advice: When dating, it's probably best to avoid taking your dates to places where thugs and bafoons are rampant. Go to areas where people are civilized.

Note: There is a difference between showing emotion and just being angry. I'm certain your date would have been more impressed if you had demonstrated self-discipline rather than anger.
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Originally posted by Rowe:

Brother Gamit, I don't mean to question your qualification as a father, but I'm really concerned about your child being parented by someone who finds it acceptable to respond this way to confrontation. I'm sure you know that being a responsible parent is more than simply providing a child with food and shelter. A responsible parent must also model the attitude and behaviors that are necessary in order to be a resilent and productive member of society. Going around breaking people's fingers because they approach some women that you're dating is unacceptable behavior. And for someone who has a "low opinion of humanity," by behaving this way, you're not doing much to improve the condition of humanity.



Don't think you want to go there Ms.Rowe...
munch

P.S. Self-discipline may have gotten his date slapped. Read the story again - The other guy was belligerent.
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Originally posted by ddouble:
P.S. Self-discipline may have gotten his date slapped.


I doubt it. You can't go around like a wild animal assaulting people based on what may happen. That's stupid, it really is. What if homeboy pulled out a gun and blew Gamit's head clean off over this nonsense. Considering people have killed for less, this could have very well happened. Then, God forbid, his daughter would have lost the only parent on which she can depend. This is why your responsibility as a parent has to be MORE IMPORTANT to you than preserving your reputation "as a man." The fact of the matter is that there are ways to avoid conflict. Even Brother Gamit's date questioned his behavior and thought his reaction was excessive. Another question is would Brother Gamit behaved the same way if his daughter were present??? Not likely. I think a lot of this behavior has to do with insecurities surrounding manhood. Some men feel compelled to react this way to confrontation because they assume the women they're with expects it. But the ability to beat people up should not be prerequisite for any relationship.
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Originally posted by Rowe:
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Originally posted by xxGAMBITxx:
Yeah I did it. Funny how this "corny ass brotha" had "Mr. Hard" in a middle finger joint lock and apologizing to my date. After the incident we're in the car and she tells me "Did you have to damn near break his finger?" You know I have low opinion of the human race anyway, so all this did was prove me right. Soon as I go pick my daughter up from mom's house...


Brother Gamit, I don't mean to question your qualification as a father, but I'm really concerned about your child being parented by someone who finds it acceptable to respond this way to confrontation. I'm sure you know that being a responsible parent is more than simply providing a child with food and shelter. A responsible parent must also model the attitude and behaviors that are necessary to be a resilent and productive member of society. Going around breaking people's fingers because they approach some women that you're dating is unacceptable behavior. And for someone who has a "low opinion of humanity" you're not doing much to improve the condition of humanity by behaving this way. One piece of advice: When dating, it's probably best to avoid taking your dates to places where thugs and bafoons are rampant. Go to areas where people are civilized.

Note: There is a difference between showing emotion and just being angry. I'm certain your date would have been more impressed if you had demonstrated self-discipline rather than anger.


WTF?!

See, this is that bullshit that keeps the world a cesspool. My daughter is being taught and trained to deal with the world as is. You think I put my mind and body thru twenty six years (so far) of training to let some corn rowed, no asset having jackass disrespect me in any way shape or fashion? You think I've gone thru 15 years of being sent to any and every god forsaken location on the map collecting scars, nightmares, and little pieces of metal as "awards" to let some flip, no nothing cretin punk me out so he can feel good about himself and repeat the process not only with me but anyone else he will encounter? You honestly feel my job as a parent is to allow my child to not be prepared to face a world that has a motto of "get over by any means necessary?" And had that ass acted that way in front of my daughter, he would be breathing thru a straw. And the gun comment, soon as I even THOUGHT he might reach for a piece he would be in the morgue (and what makes you think I don't carry one as well...plus I know for a fact I'm a damn good shot in any terrain or quarters.). Get that Hollywood nonsense of a person LETTING someone draw on them out of your mind. If you had read my statement, I didn't give a damn about impressing her or any other woman. And she has already told me that IN HINDSIGHT, she can't complain about my actions, after all what might of happened IF I was'nt there?. Lastly what indication have I given I want to change humanities condition? Humanity needs to change itself. I have no interest in being a messiah. Idiotic behavior is so prevalent because it's allowed to continue without repercussions. You put rabid (or wannabe rabid) dogs down, you don't scold them, give them a treat and hope they'll change. Those are your wild animals. You won't catch my daughter acting like the dumb asses YOU'LL complain about when they cross your path. And you wont catch my daughter being one these kids that have some horrible event happen to them because they were never told/prepared for the eventuality. Lets leave the Land of Make Believe and Chocolate Bunnies in the fantasy section of the bookstore shall we and start living in the REAL WORLD. Now if you'll excuse me, I have a self defense class to go teach. There are some people who choose not live with blinders on....
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And she has already told me that IN HINDSIGHT, she can't complain about my actions, after all what might of happened IF I was'nt there?


She would have had to handle the situation on her own, as I'm sure she has successfully done prior to meeting you and whenever you are not around. Do you actually think that your date only gets harrassed by men when you're present? Brother, women must deal with clowns like that all the time. And besides, you're supposed to be her date, not her personal bodyguard.

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Lastly what indication have I given I want to change humanities condition? Humanity needs to change itself. I have no interest in being a messiah. Idiotic behavior is so prevalent because it's allowed to continue without repercussions.


And your behavior was equally idiotic. And you can't deter idiotic behavior by acting like an idiot.

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Now if you'll excuse me, I have a self defense class to go teach. There are some people who choose not live with blinders on....


You're excused brother. But I thought one of the important requirements for using martial arts was to use it only when necessary, not to "teach people a lesson." Roll Eyes
Totally agree with Rowe. The "baffoon" called them some names. Gambit took it to a physical level. Somebody is going to lay your ass out one of these days acting like that. What if he had a gun? Or what if he was much bigger than you? Men love to think nobody can whoop that ass... until they get tore up six ways to Sunday. It doesn't matter what training you have or what classes you take or what moves you practice from watching wrestling or whatever, there is somebody out there who can and will kill you.

And as usual, the men all think escalating it to a physical level was a bbbbrilliant move. No wonder you all are an endangered species. Bunch of bad advice left, right and center on this site lately. sck
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Originally posted by Frenchy:
Totally agree with Rowe. The "baffoon" called them some names. Gambit took it to a physical level. Somebody is going to lay your ass out one of these days acting like that. What if he had a gun? Or what if he was much bigger than you? Men love to think nobody can whoop that ass... until they get tore up six ways to Sunday. It doesn't matter what training you have or what classes you take or what moves you practice from watching wrestling or whatever, there is somebody out there who can and will kill you.

And as usual, the men all think escalating it to a physical level was a bbbbrilliant move. No wonder you all are an endangered species. Bunch of bad advice left, right and center on this site lately. sck


I don't think we need to mock and chastise our young brothers, Sister Frenchy. This is really learned behavior. Boys at a very early age are taught to react violently to anyone who challenges their manhood. As a teacher, I see boys act out this way all the time. Now to Gambit's credit, that brother was waaaaaay out of line for courting his date in his presence, but Gambit certainly can't go around assaulting every guy who approaches his date. It could happen again when he's on a date with this girl or some other girl, then what? That is why whenever these types of situations arise, we have to o deal with them in responsible ways. Now if that brother physically assaulted Gambit and his date, then I think his use of self-defense is justified. But if all this fool did was to say some hostile words to Brother Gambit and his date, then in my opinion, that was not a good enough reason to physically assault him.
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I was more ranty when you first posted, but I didn't criticize because I am one of those "aren't you going to say something" types of women.

I also feel your explanation about assholes being assholes because there haven't been repercussions for them.

Still, I side with the ladies.

I have the feeling you aimed to maim only because your ego was hurt, not necessarily to stop him from disrespecting women.

That isn't impressive.

Yet I don't know what is an appropriate response. Just that that wasn't it.
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Originally posted by Frenchy:
And as usual, the men all think escalating it to a physical level was a bbbbrilliant move. No wonder you all are an endangered species. Bunch of bad advice left, right and center on this site lately. sck


We're an endangered species because we have crazy muthas constantly coming at us from the left, right, and center ... and they have been for a few centuries now... and it's not going to make us more secure by responding to threats like women...

I believe some of the ladies in this thread were the same ones who not so long ago were telling us how great cops were... Please remember

You & 5.0

before you judge our "violent tendencies"...the world does not treat us the same.. it makes no sense to react the same...
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I think this is funny.... I hope to read some more about what females think about male on male aggression, as if they had a clue.

What all of you ladies have missed is the concept that you'll probably go your whole lives never understanding.. the dynamics of male posturing. There is an escalation of aggression inherant in the dynamics of male posturing. It begins with disrespect! If that disrespect goes unanswered, then the dominant male takes what he wants without fear of reprisal. If it is answered, then the aggression escalates, one step at a time, intil someone backs down, or someone gets hurt.

That's the way it works ladies, get used to it. And yes, Sister Rowe, we all learned this on the playground in grade school. We didn't learn to do it (it's a part of our biological make up, so we've always known how this works), we learned how to deal with it. In grade school, every man grows up with a bully, even the bullies have a bully. It's a right of passage for every man (read: every man) when he successfully learns how to deal with bullies.

If he never learns, then he never really grows up... and he spends his entire life hunkering in a corner, afraid to have anything because someone might take it from him, and afraid to do anything because someone might hurt him.

Gambit, the only reason the women are confused by and judgemental of your actions is because they're women... don't listen to a word of it. rock
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Originally posted by Black Viking:
he never learns, then he never really grows up... and he spends his entire life hunkering in a corner, afraid to have anything because someone might take it from him, and afraid to do anything because someone might hurt him.

Gambit, the only reason the women are confused by and judgemental of your actions is because they're women... don't listen to a word of it. rock


thanks

I do agree with Frenchy and Rowe however...but life isn't perfect and neither are men at communicating - with 'us' let alone with each other. Wink

so this isn't advice, it's just a further comment to my original more flippant one - in general not specific to this thread.

In all seriousness I abhor violence and have more respect for - and associate with - men who use restraint and negotiation rather than physicality.

However, while I don't agree with that behaviour per se, there are times (men provoking each other like children), when I believe a woman cannot intervene and it's better to let the man do his thing - but ideally to have a plan B. When assessing a potential 'fight or flight but probably fight' situation most men instinctly have in the back of their mind where their woman is and how to remove her from the situation. I'm not saying it's a good thing, I'm saying that only men can size up other men and their agenda. And sometimes there isn't room for logic - or even if there is, noone is listening.
ahem...
I think there's a little misunderstanding on both sides of this... because 'we' women love and value our men, we don't want our men out there playing Rambo... and us witnessing, or experiencing for ourselves, the ugly side of mascunlinity. But dealing with that ugly side of humanity is part of what becoming/being a man is - unfortunate but a reality.

Bottom line: trust your man to make the call - coz he is gonna make it anyway.

And there is a difference.
HB, what the hell do the police have to do with anything?!?! Come on!!!! 5.0 was not on the scene this time, baby. And if he pulled that move with them, we'd be reading about that cat who got tazered and beaten to a bloody stump in front of his date.

You're endangered because an abundance of you are making unwise decisions. Escalating situations until you're fucking shooting each other over bumping each other in the hallway and all kinds of bullshit. You're only hurting each other and if you're not smart enough to see that, then you have my prayers. I don't give a rip if you wipe yourselves out from sheer stupidity and "posturing" over nonsense. Go for it! Cheer each other on right to your graves. Woo Hoo! Right on Gambit!!! Next time bring a big ass gun!!! Yeah!! That's the spirit! You can't let anybody get away with disrespecting a woman you hardly know!!! That's crazy talk!!!! Who cares if you go to prison or get killed? It's about posturing baby and the disrespect and the blahblahbullshit. Woo!

rock

Ugh.

If you don't know how not to get punked/bullied/dissed/whatever without becoming physically violent, you have a lot to learn.

BlackViking, weren't you JUST giving your 2 cents about BREASTFEEDING. As if you had a clue. Shut the hell up! lol
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Originally posted by art_gurl:
ahem...
I think there's a little misunderstanding on both sides of this... because 'we' women love and value our men, we don't want our men out there playing Rambo... and us witnessing, or experiencing for ourselves, the ugly side of mascunlinity. But dealing with that ugly side of humanity is part of what becoming/being a man is - unfortunate but a reality.

Bottom line: trust your man to make the call - coz he is gonna make it anyway.

And there is a difference.


That is not masculinity. That is being a hothead. And dating someone like that would put your life in danger. The worst thing a woman can do is put her trust in a man with no control over his temper. nono
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Originally posted by Frenchy:
HB, what the hell do the police have to do with anything?!?! Come on!!!! 5.0 was not on the scene this time, baby.


That thread was merely one instance where female perceptions do not match ours... It was one very potent (for me) example of how f*ckin clueless some sistas... ahem ... are about black male reality...
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Ahhh yes, the clarion call of those who don't know what the hell they're talking about. "What if he was bigger than you?"; "What if he had a gun?".

What if I was bigger? What if I had a gun? What about that? You think in my line of work and experience, I hav'nt gone up against someone bigger than me? Someone with a firearm? Someone who had the same amount if not more training than me? Get a clue ladies. First there is no way I would go to prison over wuppin a punks ass. Uncle Sam would see to that. Second, get off the whole "I'm protecting my woman" stump. I already claimed she is just a friend AND the mofo disrespected me. Third, you women can POSTURE all you want but I know novices in the "combat game" and you sound worse than novices. We have a term for people talking like you...THE WALKING DEAD. Keep turning the other cheek, I'm sure the person smacking those cheeks appreciates your "code of conduct".

Oh and if men are "endangered", women need to start digging a grave next to us then, cause the last time I checked, HUMAN CLONING WAS'NT PERFECTED YET.
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Originally posted by Rowe:
But I thought one of the important requirements for using martial arts was to use it only when necessary, not to "teach people a lesson." Roll Eyes


Stop watching reruns of "The Karate Kid" and "Kung Fu". Its called the MARTIAL (combat) Arts for a reason. It was primarily used for protection, agression, and/or enforcement. If I ever learn who was the history challenged dope who injected that nonsense into modern culture.... bang
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Originally posted by Black Viking:
What all of you ladies have missed is the concept that you'll probably go your whole lives never understanding.. the dynamics of male posturing. There is an escalation of aggression inherant in the dynamics of male posturing. It begins with disrespect! If that disrespect goes unanswered, then the dominant male takes what he wants without fear of reprisal. If it is answered, then the aggression escalates, one step at a time, intil someone backs down, or someone gets hurt. That's the way it works ladies, get used to it.


The question is why would you choose to remain in a hostile situation long enough for a confrontation to escalate? This same situation plays out in instances of road rage when people allow their feelings to get the best of them. This is simply not how civilized people act. You can't go around bashing in the skulls of every person who "disrespects" you in the street. When you were a kid you may gotten away this behavior, but once you become an adult, they have a place for people who cannot control their anger and its called PRISON. The world is not a boxing ring, and not every challenge that you will face in life can be won with your gun and fists. THAT is the lesson that we must hurry up and get across to our sons, our Black sons especially. We don't need to teach them how to behave in ways that will further jeopardize their futures. I also disapprove of how some people have divided the responses into male versus female. Anyone (male or female) with a ounce of sense should understand the importance of not reacting violently to confrontation, especially mature adults.
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Originally posted by Rowe:
You can't go around bashing in the skulls of every person who "disrespects" you in the street. When you were a kid you may gotten away this behavior, but once you become an adult, they have a place for people who cannot control their anger and its called PRISON. And in prison, you can exercise all the "male posturing" you want, but at the expense of your freedom. The world is not a boxing ring, and not every challenge that you will face in life can be won with your gun and fists. THAT is the lesson that we must hurry up and get across to our sons, our Black sons especially. We don't need to teach them how to behave in ways that will further jeopardize their futures. Brother Viking, I am surprised that you of all people are condoning this type of behavior. I also disapprove of how some people have described the responses as being one gender against another. Anyone (male or female) with a ounce of sense should understand the importance of not reacting violently to confrontation.



I have a theory that the biggest problem with "our" Black sons is that too many are learning from women how to be men...

No one is advocating killing everyone who "disrespects" you....

And yes this is a gender thing... Isn't it awfully funny how this is splitting down gender lines?.... you women really need to get off this moral superiority sh*t and this idea that you know better how to be a man than men and that if we just did things your way things would be so much better...
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Originally posted by HonestBrother:
I have a theory that the biggest problem with "our" Black sons is that too many are learning from women how to be men...


So in your opinion tell us exactly how should a man be? How should a man behave in situations where he's been offended. What should people do in general whenever someone cuts them off in the street, calls them fat, is rude to them, or offends them in some kind of way. How should a person (male or female) respond to deliberate acts of offense?

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