September 24: President Barack Obama turns around looking for first lady Michelle Obama as he greets the crowd at the Congressional Black Caucus Foundation Annual Phoenix Awards in Washington.

 

In a fiery summons to an important voting block, President Barack Obama told blacks on Saturday to quit crying and complaining and "put on your marching shoes" to follow him into battle for jobs and opportunity.

 

And though he didn't say it directly, for a second term, too.

 

Obama's speech to the annual awards dinner of the Congressional

Caucus was his answer to increasingly vocal griping from black leaders that he's been giving away too much in talks with Republicans -- and not doing enough to fight black unemployment, which is nearly double the national average at 16.7 percent.

 

"It gets folks discouraged. I know. I listen to some of y'all," Obama told an audience of some 3,000 in a darkened Washington convention center.

 

But he said blacks need to have faith in the future -- and understand that the fight won't be won if they don't rally to his side.

 

"I need your help," Obama said.

 

The president will need black turnout to match its historic 2008 levels if he's to have a shot at winning a second term, and Saturday's speech was a chance to speak directly to inner-city concerns.

 

He acknowledged blacks have suffered mightily because of the recession, and are frustrated that the downturn is taking so long to reverse. "So many people are still hurting. So many people are barely hanging on," he said, then added: "And so many people in this city are fighting us every step of the way."

 

But Obama said blacks know all too well from the civil rights struggle that the fight for what is right is never easy.

 

"Take off your bedroom slippers. Put on your maching shoes," he said, his voice rising as applause and cheers mounted. "Shake it off. Stop complainin'. Stop grumblin'. Stop cryin'. We are going to press on. We have work to do."

 

Topping the to-do list, he said, is getting Congress to the pass jobs bill he sent to Congress two weeks ago.

 

Obama said the package of payroll tax cuts, breaks and infrastructure spending will benefit 100,000 black-owned businesses 20 million African-American workers. Republicans have indicated they're open to some of the tax measures -- but oppose his means of paying for it: hiking taxes on top income-earners and big business.

 

 

Caucus leaders remain fiercely protective of the nation's first African-American president, but in recent weeks they've been increasingly vocal in their discontent -- especially over black joblesness.

 

 

"If Bill Clinton had been in the White House and had failed to address this problem, we probably would be marching on the White House," the caucus chairman, Rep. Emanuel Cleaver of Missouri, recently told McClatchy Newspapers.

 

 

Like many Democratic lawmakers, caucus members were dismayed by Obama's concessions to the GOP during the summer's talks on raising the government's borrowing limit.

Cleaver famously called the compromise deal a "sugar-coated Satan sandwich."

 

But Cleaver said his members also are keeping their gripes in check because "nobody wants to do anything that would empower the people who hate the president."

 

Still, Rep. Maxine Waters, D-Calif., caused a stir last month by complaining that Obama's Midwest bus tour had bypassed black districts. She told a largely black audience in Detroit that the caucus is "supportive of the president, but we're getting tired."

 

Last year, Obama addressed the same dinner and implored blacks to get out the vote in the midterm elections because Republicans were preparing to "turn back the clock."

What followed was a Democratic rout that Obama acknowledged as a "shellacking."

Where blacks had turned out in droves to help elect him in 2008, there was a sharp drop-off two years later.

 

Some 65 percent of eligible blacks voted in 2008, compared with a 2010 level that polls estimate at between 37 percent and 40 percent. Final census figures for 2010 are not yet available, and it's worth noting off-year elections typically draw far fewer voters.

This year's caucus speech came as Obama began cranking up grass-roots efforts across the Democratic spectrum.

 

It also fell on the eve of a trip to the West Coast that will combine salesmanship for the jobs plan he sent to Congress this month and re-election fundraising.

Obama was leaving Sunday morning for Seattle, where two receptions were planned, with two more to follow in the San Francisco area.

 

On Monday, Obama is holding a town meeting at the California headquarters of LinkedIn, the business networking website, before going on to fundraisers in San Diego and Los Angeles and a visit Tuesday to a Denver-area high school to highlight the school renovation component of the jobs package.



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This is really sad but not surprising.  Its the same script.  He's laying the foundation to blame Black people for any losses that happen in 2012. What's happening to him politically is not a result of Black people complaining nor is it because of the Tea Party blocking him.  He's dropping in the polls because people are coming to terms with the fact he has no fight in him. 

 

""Shake it off. Stop complainin'. Stop grumblin'. Stop cryin'. We are going to press on. We have work to do."

 

........To which the average non tea party, supported Obama in 2008, person sinking further and faster into the abyss responds with "F*** YOU!!!" 

 

His jobs plan is a complete joke even IF its passed untouched by the Republicans.  But after 3 years of listening to every reason why Black people cannot expect and shouldn't even ask (much less demand) Pres Obama address issues impacting Black people, He's now making demands on Black people to fight on his behalf so he can be reelected where he'll continue to not make any demands (or anything that remotely sounds like it will benefit Black people) because its not politically practical.

 

smh......ya'll got the game twisted.

 

The White House

Office of the Press Secretary

Remarks by the President at Congressional Black Caucus Foundation Annual Phoenix Awards Dinner

 

Washington Convention Center
Washington, D.C. 

8:30 P.M. EDT

THE PRESIDENT:  Hello, CBC!  (Applause.)  Thank you so much. Thank you.  Please, everybody have a seat.  It is wonderful to be with all of you tonight.  It's good to be with the conscience of the Congress.  (Applause.)  Thank you, Chairman Cleaver and brother Payne, for all that you do each and every day.  Thank you, Dr. Elsie Scott, president and CEO of the CBC Foundation, and all of you for your outstanding work with your internship program, which has done so much for so many young people.  And I had a chance to meet some of the young people backstage -- an incredible, unbelievably impressive group. 

You know, being here with all of you -- with all the outstanding members of the Congressional Black Caucus -- reminds me of a story that one of our friends, a giant of the civil rights movement, Reverend Dr. Joseph Lowery, told one day.  Dr. Lowery -- I don't think he minds me telling that he turns 90 in a couple weeks.  (Applause.)  He’s been causing a ruckus for about 89 of those years.  (Laughter.) 

A few years back, Dr. Lowery and I were together at Brown Chapel A.M.E. Church in Selma.  (Applause.)  We've got some Selma folks in the house.  (Applause.)  And Dr. Lowery stood up in the pulpit and told the congregation the story of Shadrach and Meshach and Abednego in the fiery furnace.  You know the story -- it’s about three young men bold enough to stand up for God, even if it meant being thrown in a furnace.  And they survived because of their faith, and because God showed up in that furnace with them.

Now, Dr. Lowery said that those three young men were a little bit crazy.  But there’s a difference, he said, between good crazy and bad crazy.  (Applause.)  Those boys, he said, were “good crazy.”  At the time, I was running for president -- it was early in the campaign.  Nobody gave me much of a chance.  He turned to me from the pulpit, and indicated that someone like me running for president -- well, that was crazy.  (Laughter.)  But he supposed it was good crazy. 

He was talking about faith, the belief in things not seen, the belief that if you persevere a better day lies ahead.  And I suppose the reason I enjoy coming to the CBC -- what this weekend is all about is, you and me, we're all a little bit crazy, but hopefully a good kind of crazy.  (Applause.)  We’re a good kind of crazy because no matter how hard things get, we keep the faith; we keep fighting; we keep moving forward.

And we've needed faith over these last couple years.  Times have been hard.  It’s been three years since we faced down a crisis that began on Wall Street and then spread to Main Street, and hammered working families, and hammered an already hard-hit black community.  The unemployment rate for black folks went up to nearly 17 percent -- the highest it’s been in almost three decades; 40 percent, almost, of African American children living in poverty; fewer than half convinced that they can achieve Dr. King’s dream.  You’ve got to be a little crazy to have faith during such hard times. 

It’s heartbreaking, and it’s frustrating.  And I ran for President, and the members of the CBC ran for Congress, to help more Americans reach that dream.  (Applause.)  We ran to give every child a chance, whether he’s born in Chicago, or she comes from a rural town in the Delta.  This crisis has made that job of giving everybody opportunity a little bit harder. 

We knew at the outset of my presidency that the economic calamity we faced wasn’t caused overnight and wasn’t going to be solved overnight.  We knew that long before the recession hit, the middle class in this country had been falling behind -– wages and incomes had been stagnant; a sense of financial security had been slipping away.  And since these problems were not caused overnight, we knew we were going to have to climb a steep hill. 

But we got to work.  With your help, we started fighting our way back from the brink.  And at every step of the way, we’ve faced fierce opposition based on an old idea -- the idea that the only way to restore prosperity can’t just be to let every corporation write its own rules, or give out tax breaks to the wealthiest and the most fortunate, and to tell everybody that they're on their own.  There has to be a different concept of what America’s all about.  It has to be based on the idea that I am my brother’s keeper and I am my sister’s keeper, and we’re in this together.  We are in this thing together.  (Applause.) 

We had a different vision and so we did what was right, and we fought to extend unemployment insurance, and we fought to expand the Earned Income Tax Credit, and we fought to expand the Child Tax Credit -- which benefited nearly half of all African American children in this country.  (Applause.)  And millions of Americans are better off because of that fight.  (Applause.) 

Ask the family struggling to make ends meet if that extra few hundred dollars in their mother’s paycheck from the payroll tax cut we passed made a difference.  They’ll tell you.  Ask them how much that Earned Income Tax Credit or that Child Tax Credit makes a difference in paying the bills at the end of the month. 

When an army of lobbyists and special interests spent millions to crush Wall Street reform, we stood up for what was right.  We said the time has come to protect homeowners from predatory mortgage lenders.  The time has come to protect consumers from credit card companies that jacked up rates without warning.  (Applause.)  We signed the strongest consumer financial protection in history.  That’s what we did together.  (Applause.)

Remember how many years we tried to stop big banks from collecting taxpayer subsidies for student loans while the cost of college kept slipping out of reach?  Together, we put a stop to that once and for all.  We used those savings to make college more affordable.  We invested in early childhood education and community college and HBCUs.  Ask the engineering student at an HBCU who thought he might have to leave school if that extra Pell Grant assistance mattered.  (Applause.)

We’re attacking the cycle of poverty that steals the future from too many children -- not just by pouring money into a broken system, but by building on what works -– with Promise Neighborhoods modeled after the good work up in Harlem; Choice Neighborhoods rebuilding crumbling public housing into communities of hope and opportunity; Strong Cities, Strong Communities, our partnership with local leaders in hard-hit cities like Cleveland and Detroit.  And we overcame years of inaction to win justice for black farmers because of the leadership of the CBC and because we had an administration that was committed to doing the right thing.  (Applause.)

And against all sorts of setbacks, when the opposition fought us with everything they had, we finally made clear that in the United States of America nobody should go broke because they get sick.  We are better than that.  (Applause.)  And today, insurance companies can no longer drop or deny your coverage for no good reason.  In just a year and a half, about one million more young adults have health insurance because of this law.  (Applause.)  One million young people.  That is an incredible achievement, and we did it with your help, with the CBC’s help.  (Applause.)

So in these hard years, we’ve won a lot of fights that needed fighting and we’ve done a lot of good.  But we’ve got more work to do.  So many people are still hurting.  So many people are still barely hanging on.  And too many people in this city are still fighting us every step of the way. 

So I need your help.  We have to do more to put people to work right now.  We’ve got to make that everyone in this country gets a fair shake, and a fair shot, and a chance to get ahead.  (Applause.)  And I know we won’t get where we need to go if we don’t travel down this road together.  I need you with me.  (Applause.)
  
That starts with getting this Congress to pass the American Jobs Act.  (Applause.)  You heard me talk about this plan when I visited Congress a few weeks ago and sent the bill to Congress a few days later.  Now I want that bill back -- passed.  I’ve got the pens all ready.  I am ready to sign it.  And I need your help to make it happen.  (Applause.)

Right now we’ve got millions of construction workers out of a job.  So this bill says, let’s put those men and women back to work in their own communities rebuilding our roads and our bridges.  Let’s give these folks a job rebuilding our schools.  Let’s put these folks to work rehabilitating foreclosed homes in the hardest-hit neighborhoods of Detroit and Atlanta and Washington.  This is a no-brainer.  (Applause.) 

Why should we let China build the newest airports, the fastest railroads?  Tell me why our children should be allowed to study in a school that’s falling apart?  I don’t want that for my kids or your kids.  I don’t want that for any kid.  You tell me how it makes sense when we know that education is the most important thing for success in the 21st century.  (Applause.)  Let’s put our people back to work doing the work America needs done.  Let’s pass this jobs bill.  (Applause.)

We’ve got millions of unemployed Americans and young people looking for work but running out of options.  So this jobs bill says, let’s give them a pathway, a new pathway back to work.  Let’s extend unemployment insurance so that more than six million Americans don’t lose that lifeline.  But let’s also encourage reforms that help the long-term unemployed keep their skills sharp and get a foot in the door.  Let’s give summer jobs for low-income youth that don’t just give them their first paycheck but arm them with the skills they need for life.  (Applause.) 

Tell me why we don’t want the unemployed back in the workforce as soon as possible.  Let’s pass this jobs bill, put these folks back to work.  (Applause.)   

Why are we shortchanging our children when we could be putting teachers back in the classroom right now, where they belong?  (Applause.)  Laying off teachers, laying off police officer, laying off firefighters all across the country because state and local budgets are tough.  Why aren’t we helping?  We did in the first two years.  And then this other crowd came into Congress and now suddenly they want to stop.  Tell me why we shouldn’t give companies tax credits for hiring the men and women who’ve risked their lives for this country -- our veterans.  There is no good answer for that.  They shouldn’t be fighting to find a job when they come home.  (Applause.) 

These Republicans in Congress like to talk about job creators.  How about doing something real for job creators?  Pass this jobs bill, and every small business owner in America, including 100,000 black-owned businesses, will get a tax cut.  (Applause.)  You say you’re the party of tax cuts.  Pass this jobs bill, and every worker in America, including nearly 20 million African American workers, will get a tax cut.  (Applause.)  Pass this jobs bill, and prove you’ll fight just as hard for a tax cut for ordinary folks as you do for all your contributors.  (Applause.) 

These are questions that opponents of this jobs plan will have to answer.  Because the kinds of ideas in this plan in the past have been supported by both parties.  Suddenly Obama is proposing it -- what happened?  (Laughter.)  What happened?  You all used to like to build roads.  (Laughter.)  Right?  What happened?  Reverend, you know what happened?  I don’t know.  They used to love to build some roads.  (Laughter.) 

Now, I know some of our friends across the aisle won’t support any new spending that’s not paid for.  I agree that’s important.  So last week, I laid out a plan to pay for the American Jobs Act, and to bring out -- down our debt over time.  You say the deficit is important?  Here we go.  I’m ready to go. It’s a plan that says if we want to create jobs and close this deficit, then we’ve got to ask the folks who have benefited most -- the wealthiest Americans, the biggest, most profitable corporations -- to pay their fair share.  (Applause.) 

We are not asking them to do anything extraordinary.  The reform we’re proposing is based on a simple principle:  Middle-class folks should not pay higher tax rates than millionaires and billionaires.  (Applause.)  That’s not crazy -- or it’s good crazy.  (Laughter.)  Warren Buffett’s secretary shouldn’t pay a higher tax rate than Warren Buffett.  A teacher or a nurse or a construction worker making $50,000 a year shouldn’t pay higher tax rates than somebody making $50 million.  That’s just common sense. 

We’re not doing this to punish success.  This is the land of opportunity.  I want you to go out, start a business, get rich, build something.  Out country is based on the belief that anybody can make it if they put in enough sweat and enough effort.  That is wonderful.  God bless you.  But part of the American idea is also that once we've done well we should pay our fair share -- (applause) -- to make sure that those schools that we were learning in can teach the next generation; that those roads that we benefited from -- that they're not crumbling for the next bunch of folks who are coming behind us; to keep up the nation that made our success possible.

And most wealthy Americans would agree with that.  But you know the Republicans are already dusting off their old talking points.  That's class warfare, they say.  In fact, in the next breath, they’ll complain that people living in poverty -- people who suffered the most over the past decade -- don’t pay enough in taxes.  That's bad crazy.  (Laughter and applause.)  When you start saying, at a time when the top one-tenth of 1 percent has seen their incomes go up four or five times over the last 20 years, and folks at the bottom have seen their incomes decline -- and your response is that you want poor folks to pay more?  Give me a break.  If asking a billionaire to pay the same tax rate as a janitor makes me a warrior for the working class, I wear that with a badge of honor.  I have no problem with that.  (Applause.) It's about time.  

They say it kills jobs -- oh, that's going to kill jobs.  We’re not proposing anything other than returning to the tax rates for the wealthiest Americans that existed under Bill Clinton.  I played golf with Bill Clinton today.  I was asking him, how did that go?  (Laughter.)  Well, it turns out we had a lot of jobs.  The well-to-do, they did even better.  So did the middle class.  We lifted millions out of poverty.  And then we cut taxes for folks like me, and we went through a decade of zero job growth. 

So this isn't speculation.  We've tested this out.  We tried their theory; didn’t work.  Tried our theory; it worked.  We shouldn’t be confused about this.  (Applause.)

This debate is about priorities.  If we want to create new jobs and close the deficit and invest in our future, the money has got to come from somewhere.  And so, should we keep tax loopholes for big oil companies?  Or should we put construction workers and teachers back on the job?  (Applause.)  Should we keep tax breaks for millionaires and billionaires?  Or should we invest in our children’s education and college aid?  Should we ask seniors to be paying thousands of dollars more for Medicare, as the House Republicans propose, or take young folks’ health care away?  Or should we ask that everybody pay their fair share? This is about fairness.  And this is about who we are as a country.  This is about our commitment to future generations.

When Michelle and I think about where we came from -- a little girl on the South Side of Chicago, son of a single mom in Hawaii -- mother had to go to school on scholarships, sometimes got food stamps.  Michelle's parents never owned their own home until she had already graduated -- living upstairs above the aunt who actually owned the house.  We are here today only because our parents and our grandparents, they broke their backs to support us.  (Applause.)  But they also understood that they would get a little bit of help from their country.  Because they met their responsibilities, this country would also be responsible, would also provide good public schools, would also provide recreation  -- parks that were safe, making sure that they could take the bus without getting beat over the head, making sure that their kids would be able to go to college even if they weren’t rich.

We're only here because past generations struggled and sacrificed for this incredible, exceptional idea that it does not matter where you come from, it does not matter where you’re born, doesn’t matter what you look like -- if you’re willing to put in an effort, you should get a shot.  You should get a shot at the American Dream.  (Applause.) 

And each night, when we tuck in our girls at the White House, I think about keeping that dream alive for them and for all of our children.  And that’s now up to us.  And that’s hard. This is harder than it’s been in a long, long time.  We’re going through something we haven’t seen in our lifetimes. 

And I know at times that gets folks discouraged.  I know.  I listen to some of you all.  (Laughter.)  I understand that.  And nobody feels that burden more than I do.  Because I know how much we have invested in making sure that we’re able to move this country forward.  But you know, more than a lot of other folks in this country, we know about hard.  The people in this room know about hard.  (Applause.)  And we don’t give in to discouragement. 

Throughout our history, change has often come slowly.  Progress often takes time.  We take a step forward, sometimes we take two steps back.  Sometimes we get two steps forward and one step back.  But it’s never a straight line.  It’s never easy.  And I never promised easy.  Easy has never been promised to us.  But we’ve had faith.  We have had faith.  We’ve had that good kind of crazy that says, you can’t stop marching.  (Applause.) 

Even when folks are hitting you over the head, you can’t stop marching.  Even when they’re turning the hoses on you, you can’t stop.  (Applause.)  Even when somebody fires you for speaking out, you can’t stop.  (Applause.)  Even when it looks like there’s no way, you find a way -- you can’t stop.  (Applause.)  Through the mud and the muck and the driving rain, we don’t stop.  Because we know the rightness of our cause -- widening the circle of opportunity, standing up for everybody’s opportunities, increasing each other’s prosperity.  We know our cause is just.  It’s a righteous cause. 

So in the face of troopers and teargas, folks stood unafraid.  Led somebody like John Lewis to wake up after getting beaten within an inch of his life on Sunday -- he wakes up on Monday:  We’re going to go march.  (Applause.)

Dr. King once said:  “Before we reach the majestic shores of the Promised Land, there is a frustrating and bewildering wilderness ahead.  We must still face prodigious hilltops of opposition and gigantic mountains of resistance.  But with patient and firm determination we will press on.”  (Applause.) 

So I don’t know about you, CBC, but the future rewards those who press on.  (Applause.)  With patient and firm determination, I am going to press on for jobs.  (Applause.)  I'm going to press on for equality.  (Applause.)  I'm going to press on for the sake of our children.  (Applause.)  I'm going to press on for the sake of all those families who are struggling right now.  I don’t have time to feel sorry for myself.  I don’t have time to complain.  I am going to press on.  (Applause.) 

I expect all of you to march with me and press on.  (Applause.)  Take off your bedroom slippers, put on your marching shoes.  Shake it off.  (Applause.)  Stop complaining, stop grumbling, stop crying.  We are going to press on.  We’ve got work to do, CBC.  (Applause.) 

God bless you, and God bless the United States of America.  (Applause.)

 

 

 

I counted 83 times President Obama used the word or versions of the word "we" in this speech regarding what "we" as African Americans should be doing but after 3 years of evading Black folk except for showing up and giving speeches in "safe from the public wrath of White folk" larger Black venues like the Congressional Black Caucus Foundation Annual Phoenix Awards Dinner and not going to any African American local urban/surbuban communities the same way he goes to farmland, back yard, hay bales, feed barn and John Deere tractor set-up, middle America countless times over, the word should not be "we" but the word "you".

 

And the word "we" is code for "I need you and your Black vote in 2012".

 

And I agree with Muhammad Cipher. This is really sad but not surprising. It's the same old script dusted off, edited, updated and the only person living in total denial, who doesn't have a clue or seem to get it is the President.

 

And I have mentioned this before. I do not like Presidents or politicans who attend African American churches or events purposely using the fire & brimstone "preacher in the pulpit sermon" trick to try and motivate Black folk thinking that this is the formula; the only way to garner Black support because of the deeply rooted, traditional church/religious values and with other races regarding his speeches, this tone or wording is never, ever used.

 

"I expect all of you to march with me and press on.Take off your bedroom slippers, put on your marching shoes.  Shake it off.  (Applause.)  Stop complaining, stop grumbling, stop crying.  We are going to press on.  We’ve got work to do, CBC".......hate to say it Mr. President but.......nigger please!!!!

 

If you want Black people to march with you, you first have to learn how to not live in complete fear of the public company and public imagery of everyday American Black folk (not as the "President of Black America" but as President of the United States) and know how to stand strong & lead from the front in order to have others follow, march and press on with you!

 


 

All I have to say about this is to look at what the Jewish voters in New York recently did, which resulted in a Republican being elected to a long established democratic house seat. They sent Obama a message and Obama, at the UN, changed his tone and ways concerning Isreal and the Palestenians.

 

Obama talks down and at black people, which helps to secure his white support. If he is not chastising black fathers....its something else. He does not seem to be able to speak to a majority black audience without making it seems as if black folks are doing something wrong with his "Its up to you" rhetoric. Obviously if its "up to us", then we must be the problem. Unlike when he was in Chicago, his rhetoric is a lot different these days....because its made for white audiences who are listening in through the media.

 

Black folks should SEND a damn message to Obama and all Democrats who continue to treat the black voters as "Captives"......by NOT turning out for the democrats. However, that will not happen because .......oh what the hell....what the point anymore

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I expect all of you to march with me and press on.  (Applause.)  Take off your bedroom slippers, put on your marching shoes.  Shake it off.  (Applause.)  Stop complaining, stop grumbling, stop crying.  We are going to press on.  We’ve got work to do, CBC.  (Applause.) 

God bless you, and God bless the United States of America.  (Applause.)"

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Damn, I don't know how I missed that.  Doing 5 things at one time . . . 

  Well...you know?  I wanna SEE anybody to do it any BETTER!  Me myself?  I am VERY tired of being LOYAL to the disloyal.  All this work I do...and they are STILL killing each other in the hood?  And....what do I ever get?  Whinning!  But if they, these whiners witness a murder, they all DISAPPEAR!!!!  Talk about missing in action.  Can't find their azzes.  Sorry.  It's the SAME in this case.  I come from a protestin' era...where we DIDN'T have slippers to put on let alone take off [cuz we always WORKED] ....and still we went out there and RISK our lives.....for the betterment of OUR PEOPLE.  Lookin back and seeing what's happenin' now...I should be saying "niggers pleaaaaase"[sorry Brotha Cholly...you know I love you like a play cousin....but].  If just one of us from each community from across this country...just one!  Would get up...go out on the corner and transform their whinning to talkin to neighbors, citizens, walker bys.....man!  The results one would get.  But do just "one" do this?  Hellllllll Nawl.  Cuz why?  It's much easier to point fingers.  I always say the reason why most women don't get along is because they are too busy facing each other looking for indiscretions to prove unworwthiness....however!  If they would just turn forward standing side by side focusing on the onward direction we will get MORE done as mothers, women, humans.  But unfortunately this is how we as BLACK people do to each other too.  We face each other and seek out imperfections instead turning side by side to fight for the mutual cause of our people...like how we did in marches during the civil rights movement.  Today we REALLY need to STOP facing each other!  Bottom line.  Cuz from where I sit, stand, ponder....I see NO PERFECT person....not one!  Not on earth that is.  As why I face forward....with my mouth zipped....but!  That's just me.   

   

 

Thanks for finding the transcript, Sunnubian!! 

 

I'm hoping maybe C-SPAN will post the video of it.  I'd like to see how he delivered the speech for myself .... there's a whole lot "left out of the translation" between reading someone's words and being able to see how they said them.

 

I was watching a late-night news program last night and there was a (Black) woman being interviewed who said she was there ... and in her opinion, she used words like "rousing", "uplifting", "rallying cry" to describe the speech and the mood in the room.  In her opinion, the speech was "well-received" and people were cheering and applauding at what the President was saying!! 

 

Which ... to me seemed .... interesting .... I suppose, considering that the headlines used by the media (of course) put the most negative connotation to it by using the words "He said stop complaining" ... which I must admit, gave me a bit of a "Humph!!!" attitude upon seeing it!!

 

But then I had to remember that those were 2 words out of probably a couple of thousand others used in the WHOLE context of the speech!!!  The media is going to serve up the most controversial.  But ... not to sucked into their propaganda ...  I will reserve judgement until I can hear it for myself.

Originally Posted by Cholly:
 

And I have mentioned this before. I do not like Presidents or politicans who attend African American churches or events purposely using the fire & brimstone "preacher in the pulpit sermon" trick to try and motivate Black folk thinking that this is the formula; the only way to garner Black support because of the deeply rooted, traditional church/religious values and with other races regarding his speeches, this tone or wording is never, ever used.

 


 


 

 

You know ... I really get your point here, Cholly!!!  And I don't necessarily disagree ...  But .... the truth is ... I'm not sure there is ANOTHER effective way to get Black people motivated!!    I mean ... what else has (ever) worked??   

 

I mean ... It's not like we're this great, churning, collective powerhouse of activism!!    I saw estimates that about 2,000 protesters (mostly, but not ALL Black people!) gathered at the prison to protest Troy Davis' execution!!!  Considering how many Black people LIVE in Georgia ... how many Black people LIVE in America ... less than 2,000 Black people SHOWED UP to protest an injustice such as that.

 

I've read that MORE people publicly protested globally than those that actually showed up in Georgia in person!!!  It seems like these days the only times Black people get really "riled up" or overly excited about anything .... is if/when they are enticed by a "pulpit speech."  I would add "Or during a political rally" .... but the fact is, Black people here in American don't "rally" ... politically or otherwise.

 

But I do understand your objection to seemingly being "talked down to"  in a condescending tone .... which, on more than one occasion, it has seemed like the President (and others) have used when addressing an all-Black audience.

 

However ... on a much broader and more generalized note ... I, personally, don't think Black people SHOULD be talked to in the same way "other races" are - or need to be - talked to!!!   Personally (In my own "yes, I'm a racist" kinda way!!  ) ... I believe Black people's intelligence level and cognitive ability to have a deeper, more rational way of understanding even the basic issues of humanity, fairness, reason, knowing right from wrong, requires a much DIFFERENT conversation from what needs to be conducted with the remedial, neanderthal-like, "give it to me like a 1st grader" conversations that's usually needed to get "others" to get a basic understanding of the same things.

 

Because of our experience and history .... we understand things in ways NOBODY else can.  And web don't need to be drawn a map ... or get a rocket science degree ... to grasp what most White people in this country can't even begin to comprehend on a rational and intellectual level.

 

In fact ... a big part of our problem is all this "sugar-coated" BS we're fed by "others" because THEY can't compose a more intelligent level of comprehension!!!  IMO, part of the most AMAZING tale of the journey of who we are is the fact that .... even when we were being KILLED for learning to read and write ... or participating in any kind of "formal" education .... our ancestors knew how to do EVERYTHING White people knew how to do ... AND some!!  They could reason (intellectually) ... they could interpret numbers, weights and measures (even though they couldn't 'formally" count" .... they knew direction, even though they didn't speak "proper" English, their communication and logic skills were impeccable, in most cases.

 

So, I would hope that OUR conversations ... especially among OURSELVES, would be different from that which "other races" need to have ... especially with each other!!  I believe we are able to handle a deeper, more honest, more intellectual, less elementary way of communication and discussion and understanding.

 

And as for the President saying "we need to get off our ass and get to work"??  I would probably be a LOT more upset about that .... if it wasn't so very, very TRUE!

Quote by ER: " I'm not sure there is ANOTHER effective way to get Black people motivated!!    I mean ... what else has (ever) worked??   "

 

IMO, the problem with this traditional direct fire "sermon on the mount" approach today regarding Black folk and getting them fired up to do anything is how it's constantly being done on a rare basis to generate a short term buzz and little else.

 

And this short buzz is all about the upcoming 2012 election. If the President had come around Black folk during his entire 3 years on a regular basis; the debt ceiling debate or when he was selling other agenda items instead of going straight to the White communities, like that 3 day bus tour he recently took traveling through middle America, then it wouldn't be so revelant.

 

Instead of maintaining a constant flow of information and constant visibility when things are critical, black folk are the last served and when that happens, black folk are dissapointed, get mad, pissed off and then when the uproar starts, the politican suddendly shows up to soothe the deep wounds.

 

If you come around all the time, get involved, particpitate and keep Blacks informed, then I'm not suprised at all when you show up again.

 

African Americans today are intelligent enough, knowledgable, connected to the issues via technology, fully understand and have examined and analyzed all the issues no matter how complex and are educated & smart enough to understand the dire issues that we face and all the President or any other so-called Black leader(s) has to do is be consistant, get involved, partcipitate, keep Blacks informed of the unknown or changing complexities of these issues on a continious basis and let people know exactly what's happening as it happens, how it happens and when it happens.

 

Get out of the church mode. Stop dropping into large coordinated planned venues, giving a fiery sermon speech while we sit listening with no give and take; no questions being asked or comment being made by the audience via microphone and then moving on to the next venue to do the exact same thing. All you're left with is a stirring speech, fleeting moments of joy, happiness and gossip with little action or no follow-up afterwards.

 

When President Obama caters to the White crowds to sell his agenda, it's a town hall meeting or a business visit, either with company employees, at a high school, college campus or in somebody's backyard. A short speech with Q&A sessions that follows.

 

With Blacks, it's always the same old Black venues with all the churchified stuff. And it does not matter the educational or accomplishment levels of those Black people.

 

Don't preach to me. I don't need that. Talk straight to me. And I'm not saying what I am about to say trying to be a jerk, but eliminate all the Dr. King references and Bible verses. I get that every Sunday. I don't need to hear it from politicans especially when I know it's only being used to try and sell me.

 

Tell me what going on, allow people to get involved, have them ask questions, make comments, encourage partcipitation and allow the opportunity to express their feelings/emotions and inform that Black leader in full explicit detail what you're not doing and what I expect from you...And ensure that these leaders follow-up.

 

Preaching to the congregation is and has always been a one-sided conservation that has very little or no give and take....all you do is listen and all questions and comments occurs after the speaker is long gone or if he/she still there, he's not available, has someone else to handle all the questions, isolated from the crowds, busy with certain people or can't or not allowed to be contacted....just like after church service.....sort of like the old saying..."you should and cannot question the preacher, you should only listen to him and do what he says". You learn that rule early on as a small child going to church and it doesn't matter how screwed up that preacher is....example: Bishop Eddie Long.

 

For the President, talk directly to me, not at me and not down to me. Be consistant with the exact same format and treat all Americans no matter the race, the same in this regard.

 

And you have to ask yourself, If the CBC had not complained (Rep. Maxine Waters) about the President, would he have even been scheduled to show up?

Sista ER wrote:  Because of our experience and history .... we understand things in ways NOBODY else can.  And web don't need to be drawn a map ... or get a rocket science degree ... to grasp what most White people in this country can't even begin to comprehend on a rational and intellectual level.

 

Thank God....my sista.  I thought I was the ONLY person in the room.  Exactly.  We have worn the mask in terms of hiding how intelligent we are for hundreds of years.  In fact, the very fabric of America's power came from the blood sweat and death of many of our ancestors.  But folks conveniently forget about that.

 

 

In fact ... a big part of our problem is all this "sugar-coated" BS we're fed by "others" because THEY can't compose a more intelligent level of comprehension!!!  IMO, part of the most AMAZING tale of the journey of who we are is the fact that .... even when we were being KILLED for learning to read and write ... or participating in any kind of "formal" education .... our ancestors knew how to do EVERYTHING White people knew how to do ... AND some!!  They could reason (intellectually) ... they could interpret numbers, weights and measures (even though they couldn't 'formally" count" .... they knew direction, even though they didn't speak "proper" English, their communication and logic skills were impeccable, in most cases.

 

And they were NOT lead by propaganda, empty words and media hype.  They knew what was going on.  No one had to tell them AND no one had to tell them what to do about it.  It was SILENTLY understood.

 

So, I would hope that OUR conversations ... especially among OURSELVES, would be different from that which "other races" need to have ... especially with each other!!  I believe we are able to handle a deeper, more honest, more intellectual, less elementary way of communication and discussion and understanding.

 

It is different.  And profound. Our way of communicating that is.   Cuz no other enslaved "race" has EVER done what we managed to do.  Free ourselves.  Many races have dissolved and were eradicated almost to extinction.  Not us.  We are STILL here.  That should tell us something....but!  Does it?

 

And as for the President saying "we need to get off our ass and get to work"??  I would probably be a LOT more upset about that .... if it wasn't so very, very TRUE!

 

I have sooooo many examples of that it would make your head swim.  But to add to my position:  For over a month now, my staff with the cooperation of a couple of major businesess, local and high profile came together....[actually they grew tired of looking at my face and hearing my voice BEGGING for funding for these kids...anywhoo]... and launched a back to school program preparation series.  We had three events in all.  The business heads donated computers, ipods, ebooks etc. to potential students to help them get ready for the new semester.  Our last event was less than a week ago.  Students and parents were notified about this all summer: word of mouth, flyers...the whole nine yards. 

 

Longstoryshort:  After the final event, adults were coming back asking for stuff for their grandchildren.  "You didn't bring them.  They get NOTHING."  Why is that a surprised?  I even had bays bays trying to STEAL for their siblings...I caught them.  Threatened to take their stuff if they didn't leave right then.  "Your brothers/sisters knew about this....they chose not to come," I told them.  So the bottom line is many of us are becoming lazy about our own.  Only when they realize awesome rewards are given away free to students....that's when their azzes jump up last minute EXPECTING to get what the attendees were provided.  Exhausted and ready to go I told them all....sorry the program is over.  They had the gawl...the NERVE to get mad and start whining and complaining about it not being FAIR.  But!  If you got YOUR black azz up.....your child could have brought home some type of technology for school....but!  Nawl...you didn't feel like it at the time.  Well the only thing I could say is too bad soooo sad.   This is totally pitiful.   And thing is this kinda BS is happening more and more these days.  And I am TIRED of it.  Always....wanting sumthing for NOTHING.  Blackfolks better wake up....and STOP all this unnecessary whinning and complainin.  Cuz they gonna turn around one day...and be left behind.  This is what I know to be true.  But!  I'm just sayin    

Thats on point Cholly. However, the black community and its needs are kryptonite to a black president who has a majority white electorate. The black community has to be preeched at and talked down to in order to comfort the white electorate fears that a black president will be "tribal". Hence, knowing that the black community has no place else to go, with their vote, all that blacks will get from a black president are lectures and chastisement and telling blacks that personal responsibility is really the root of our problems. Therefore, like I always have said, its a NET LOSS for blacks. We get a black president, which is pure symbolism, while our problems have to ride further in the back of the bus. Black folks should have stuck with the Clintons.

 

 

You're right, Ms. Koco!! That IS pretty damn sad. 

 

On the other end of that spectrum, though, was something that really warmed my heart!!  Week before last, I was driving home around 7:00-ish and took the shortcut by the local elementary school down the street.  I'm not sure what the event was (because it wasn't posted on the marquee like it usually is!) .... but .... there were SOOOOOOO many cars parked in and around that school that I couldn't even IMAGINE where they put all those parents!! 

 

When I tell you they must have been PACKED in there like a can of sardines .... I mean the cars were taking up BOTH side of the street around ALL the corners surrounding the school!

 

At least ONE parent for EVERY child must have been attending whatever they were doing there that night!!  And I've been living here and driving past that school for more years than I'd like to count!!  Over the past 4 or 5 years, I've noticed that turnout at these kinds of things are increasing ... but NEVER have I seen the kind of turnout that was there then.

 

This elementary school also has also started offering classes for adults/parents once or twice a month .... such as a "Learn math with your kids" class ... or "basic accounting and budgeting" class ... or one time there was a "Parenting 101" class being offered.  But while the parking lot doesn't exactly 'overflow' on these nights ... at least the opportunity is there for parents to participate if they so choose. 

 

TOO MUCH of the overall problems we have in our community is a lack of KNOWLEDGE of how to take advantage of opportunities that present themselves!!!  People might not like WHAT the President said ... or HOW he said it .... but the FACT is that he spoke the truth ... the whole truth ... and nothing but the truth in his remarks.  Black people ARE complaining that they want MORE .... but aren't even taking advantage of what's ALREADY out there and available!! 

 

We have people and organizations all over the place offering help .... but some of us think that it's too much trouble to get up and go get it .... and that it should be DELIVERED to us ... at our door ... instead!!! 

 

I often think about the fact that our ancestors FOUGHT and DIED to simply GAIN the kind of opportunities that are sitting at our feet today ... it's not like they had them and DIDN'T take advantage,  They would have given ANYTHING - and many of them did give their very lives - to TRY to be where ARE today.

 

The President was RIGHT to say "the fight isn't over" ... and "we've got more work to do."  He wasn't lyin'.  Nor is he delusional.  What he said was the truth.  And Black people NEED to LEARN to do a better job of handling it.  Straight, no chaser.  'Cause that watered-down, diluted, mixed-with-something-fruity Kool-Aid version that White people are so fond of sipping on - ISN'T going to take Black people anywhere CLOSE to where we're trying to go!! 

 

And we should've learned that lesson a LONG time ago.

I still can't find the entire speech posted anywhere ... but this is about the longest clip (@ 2 minutes) that I can find that brings any context to what he said and how he said it. 


While it looked to me like he kinda 'chuckled' to himself before he said it (as in possibly in jest) ... no doubt this will still piss some people off that he said it at all!! 

 

 

If one wants to be a leader that inspires people to fight, one has to usually lead by example. It’s hypocritical and political to deflect criticism and implore that black folk’s fight and march when he failed to do just that on behalf of liberal policies in the face of Republican opposition. I mean…..if he is not willing to fight and take advantage of….ummm….I don’t know……A SUPER F’CKN MAJORITY when he had it, then how the hell does he have any credibility to preach to the black masses about fighting instead of complaining? Was it not Obama who spent his time complaining and whining about Republican obstructionism and the problems he inherited from Bush?  Were the f’ck was all that tough talk about fighting and not complaining his first 3 years? Much of his based is pissed at him for lacking fight for Liberal policies…..and he got the damn never to preach to black folks about stop complaining and start fighting……for this BS jobs bill that will not do Jack Slit!


Obama’s address to the CBC was pure political theater aimed at letting white voters know that he will, under no circumstances, give in to pressures to address growing racial economic inequality in this nation. Instead, all he has for black folks are “Personal Responsibility Lectures” to Stop complaining, stop whining. Truth be told, there is not a special interest group in America that is not complaining, but the stop complaining rhetoric is reserved for black people. I cannot tell you how many times whites have responded with stop complaining and stop whining and accusations of blacks harboring a “victim syndrome”.  That is usually the rhetoric that comes out of the mouths of conservatives and Obama wins points with white independent voters when he tells black folks things that white folks commonly tell black folks which is essentially to stop whining and be more personally responsible. The fact that some Negroes applaud this makes you wonder why they are Democrats……because it is Republican Rhetoric. They know damn well that If Bush had said the exact same thing to the CBC....these apologitic negroes would be having a hissy fit.

Both videos are at the ending of his Jobs Bill speech.

 

President Obama 9-24-11: Congressional Black Caucus Foundation Annual Phoenix Awards in Washington, D.C.


Credit for video: EbonyRose

 

 

 

less than 48 hours later....

 

President Obama at LinkedIn Town Hall, Mountain View, Calif., 9-26-11 (Town Hall format): President Promotes Jobs Plan In Silicon Valley. (Open link)

 

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/...valley_n_981595.html

 

 

 

 

Sista ER wrote:   TOO MUCH of the overall problems we have in our community is a lack of KNOWLEDGE of how to take advantage of opportunities that present themselves!!!  People might not like WHAT the President said ... or HOW he said it .... but the FACT is that he spoke the truth ... the whole truth ... and nothing but the truth in his remarks.  Black people ARE complaining that they want MORE .... but aren't even taking advantage of what's ALREADY out there and available!! 

 

  Hall....lay....lu.....yer!  That's all I'm sayin.  And hey [lookin  over my shoulders] this series was designed specifically for BLACKFOLKS...i.e. our children.  My primary focus was to make SURE our kids had the tools needed for the school  year....and I got my black azz out there BEGGING earlier on for our kids....and guess how many of us SHOWED UP and how many Latinos/Asians/Indians....showed up?  As a matter of fact, Latino and family were waiting an hour before our arrival...ready to HELP set up.  Many blackfolks showed up on colored people's time[except for the ones I personally invited....they were there appropriately.] with hands wide open.  Sorry.  This is the truth.   So you are absolutely right my sista.  Stuff is out here and available in ABUNDANCE.....but!  Where are/were the blackfolks?  No where to be found.  No I take that back.  20 blackfolks showed up for the entire three event program. 

 

 

We have people and organizations all over the place offering help .... but some of us think that it's too much trouble to get up and go get it .... and that it should be DELIVERED to us ... at our door ... instead!!! 

 

Yep Yep Yep. 

 

I often think about the fact that our ancestors FOUGHT and DIED to simply GAIN the kind of opportunities that are sitting at our feet today ... it's not like they had them and DIDN'T take advantage,  They would have given ANYTHING - and many of them did give their very lives - to TRY to be where ARE today.

 

Uh huh!  Exactly! 

 

The President was RIGHT to say "the fight isn't over" ... and "we've got more work to do."  He wasn't lyin'.  Nor is he delusional. 

 

I think it's the other way around....some blackfolks are delusional...and living in a glass darkly.  They are the ones who do ALL the talking...but!  No walking.  Yep that's right. 

 

What he said was the truth.  And Black people NEED to LoreEARN to do a better job of handling it.  Straight, no chaser.  'Cause that watered-down, diluted, mixed-with-something-fruity Kool-Aid version that White people are so fond of sipping on - ISN'T going to take Black people anywhere CLOSE to where we're trying to go!! 

 

Exactly!  We are our WORSE ENEMY!  Is why I always say I grow soooooooo tired of being loyal to the disloyal.  But I think about the kids....excuse me....fock the adults.  They had their chance.  Children didn't ask to be here....so we gotta do everything we can while we can to ensure that they get the piece of the pie our ancestors DIED for.  Bottom line.  Again...blackfolks can miss me with their childish ungrateful bullshyte.  I ain't even looking at them no more cuz they make me SICK to my stomach.  It's too pitiful.  No where in the WORLD do we have this one of a kind opportunity...[not even in Africa]....but!  What do we do?  Bitch and moan...and while playin that distraction role we do soooooo well...other folks are reaping the benefits that TOTALLY belong to us.  And you know that too is gettin REAL old.  But!  I'm just sayin  

Originally Posted by Kocolicious:

  No where in the WORLD do we have this one of a kind opportunity...[not even in Africa]....but!  What do we do?  Bitch and moan...and while playin that distraction role we do soooooo well...other folks are reaping the benefits that TOTALLY belong to us.  And you know that too is gettin REAL old.  But!  I'm just sayin  

 

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All right .... I'm about to make myself REAL late ... and ruin my entire schedule for the REST of the night!!    But I just have to stop and say this before I go ....

 

I was reading in another thread here on the Board (can't remember which!) but it was something about protesting .... in this and other countries ... and at least TWO mentions were made about protests being referred to as a "Million (Person) March"!!! 

 

And I'm thinking to myself ..... Isn't it AMAZING how, seemingly no matter WHAT we do/get/start/achieve ..... EVERYBODY wants to get in on it, copy it, use it, emulate it, better themselves with it, take it one step further .... and aren't even TRYING to "disguise" it as something else!!  They FOLLOW what we do ... lock and stop!!    And LOVE it!!!  And, even more surprisingly (considering we are the MOST MALIGNED race on the PLANET!!!) ... most will give us the full credit we deserve for establishing it!!! 

 

And I am like, "What the hell is that"?? 

 

From "Million Man" protests ... to rap music ... to soul food ... (and I throw that in because just now on the local news was a report about "the best hamburger in the country" ... with the title being given to a White woman, in 4th Ward - a Black neighborhood that White people apparently travel FAR AND WIDE to get into to get one of these burgers!!!  ).

 

BUT .... the bottom line here is that Black people COULD BE leading the charge in so many ways!!!  If we were GOING SOMEWHERE ... it's almost as if we could have the WHOLE WORLD following our LEAD!! 

 

My personal belief for that is because, (once again as the "racist" that I am!) I DO wholeheartedly believe that, as it has been said, Black people are a "moral compass" of sorts ... for this country .... and indeed for the world.  And for those "others" who are enlightened enough to be able to see us for the type of people we really are .... and what we have to offer .... they are more than happen to acknowledge our greatness ... SADLY ... even more so in some cases, than we, ourselves, are willing to see in ourselves!! 

 

I can't TELL you how deeply I am wishing that Black people in this country would WAKE THE FOCK UP ... once and for all .... and get it together so we can begin the process that's going to lead us to take our RIGHTFUL PLACE in this world!!!  I want to SEE it in my lifetime!!! 

 

But .... the way we're going these days .... .... I just don't know.

 

 

Now .... just so you know .... I AM gonna be late and it's ALL your fault, Sis!! 

All I want to know is what the problem was when white folks were telling us this stuff Obama is saying? White folks have been telling us for years that the problem is us. When they say it we holler racism....when Obama says it....it's caring brilliance. Repubicans have been preeching personal responsibility, and not racism, as the primary cause of black problems in America. Hell....that's their mantra! After Obama leaves office half of black folks might as well vote for the Republican Party because that is the rhetoric that Obama is kicking and Negroes, like some on here, are agreeing with. Obama is NOT a liberal when it comes to issues of blacks. He is a conservative.

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This accounts for the fact that although the Democratic presidential candidate won his nomination by telling voters he opposed the war in Iraq, by the time he sewed up that nomination, he was appearing on the Bill O'Reilly show to praise the war in Iraq and endorse the Cheney-Bush “surge”. It explains why candidate Obama, after promising (but mostly only before labor audiences) to renegotiate NAFTA, walk a picket line and pass legislation that would make more unionization possible, president Obama pushed to extend “free trade” agreements everywhere, cracked down on federal workers, demonized teacher unions and more. It explains why Obama literally claims to walk in Martin Luther King's footsteps when it suits him --- on the campaign trail he declared himself “Joshua” to Dr. King's “Moses” --- but manages to ignore black unemployment and mass incarceration, the wave of foreclosures which are inordinately concentrated among nonwhite households, and maintains the US position as in King's words “...the number one purveyor of violence in the world today.”

Only the First Black President could have disbanded the peace movement and rolled into town promising to “cut entitlements” without provoking a firestorm of protest.”

The 2012 Republican presidential candidates are indeed different from most (but not all) Democrats. They are intolerant religious zealots and Dominionists. They are anti-Muslim and anti-gay bigots, and open white supremacists. Their debate audiences raucously cheer the prospect of more executions and the undeserving poor dying for lack of medical care. But these are all about cultural, not policy differences. What Republicans call “Obamacare” is the same insurance company boondoggle governor Mitt Romney imposed on Massachusetts in the 1990s, and the poor are indeed still dying for lack of care in Massachusetts. The rhetoric Republican candidates use to round up and corral their base voters should not be confused with Republican policy objectives.

Since the forces financing Republicans are the same as those financing Democrats the directors of US political theater have the power to play games with us. For them, Obama is the preferable alternative. Only the First Black President could have disbanded the peace movement and rolled into town promising to “cut entitlements” without provoking a firestorm of protest. Only the First Black President could have accepted a Nobel Peace Prize with a war speech, and invaded an African country without millions of protesters in the street worldwide. Only the First Black President with a strong Democratic majority in Congress could have resumed offshore drilling after the Gulf BP disaster, and blocked any new regulation on the oil industry. Only the First Black President could have given GM back to its managers after sticking the unions with its underfunded health care and pension load. Only candidate Obama could have come in off the campaign trail in September 2008 to whip Democratic votes in the Democrat-dominated congress for the $3 trillion Bush bailout, and only the First black President could have quintupled down on that bailout, giving the banksters $15 trillion more once in office.

From their standpoint, Obama needed, and continues to need two things. First, Obama needs running room to his right. In order for Obama to enact the neoliberal policies of his militarist and bankster sponsors, the policy demands of Republicans had to move further and still further rightward. In other words, he needs Republicans to play crazy and crazier, so that wherever he lands can credibly be claimed to be a little better than what might have been under a Republican regime, even when Obama's position is actually to the right of Bush or Reagan. Secondly, the bankster favorite Obama needs to distract the attention of his voter base with a loud and persistent clamor over cultural issues and sustained furor over instances of personal (but not institutional) racism among Republican candidates and supporters. Like in any production, every actor has a job to do, and everybody does their job.

Having the same class of shot-calling big money contributors means that Republicans and Democrats alike tend to enact the same policies...”

With these elements in place, our Black Misleadership Class and others responsible for marshalling support for the president's re-election effort can, and are already claiming that no matter how bad Obama's policies have been for black people, that we still owe him our unquestioned support because he's running against a pack of fanatical white supremacists. Obama may not be much good, but opposing the right, they will tell us, is fighting the far greater evil. Americans, and especially black Americans, are long accustomed to choosing between greater and lesser political evils

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http://www.blackagendareport.c...-more-effective-evil

The article above that I posted represents the type of critical thinking that has vacated the minds of AA since the election of Obama. Think about what the article is saying for a moment. What the article is arguing is that politics in America is shifting to the right by the force coming from the radical tea Party movement. Being “Liberal” is relative. It’s relative to the positions and platforms of conservatives. Hence, as the Republican Party candidates and those elected to congress become more to the right…..THE CENTER MOVES TO THE RIGHT, which means so does the policies of the Democratic Party.


Think about it. The Democrats cannot run on “look at all we have done for you”, given the unemployment and wars ragging, as well as growing poverty and racial disparity. The Democrats wanted their turn and made all kinds of promises that they failed to keep. Not only that, the FACT is that Obama has continued many of the ways of Bush and he certainly is preaching the conservatives “Personal Responsibility” rhetoric to the black masses, while not willing to address racial inequality. Make no mistake about it. These are, traditionally, Republican positions and stances, while the Republican Party has shifted further to the right allowing the Democrats to claim their former positions as now “Liberal”.


It’s like corporate America is playing “good cop bad cop” with the American people. You know how that works. You give in to the demands of the good cops (the Democrats) lest you are faced with a much worse fate at the hands of the bad cops. However, the good cop and bad cop are actually working together to get what they want from you. The country is being moved to the right with this strategy. The traditional Democratic base will accept the incremental shift of Democratic Politicians to the right only because they see it as better than the alternate choice of the Republicans, who have shifted ever further to the right. If the Democratic base try and fight and send a message to their politicians who are shifting, they are eventually stymied by their fears of the bad cop.


Think about it. Was it not the Democrats who gave this country NAFTA, and have since been lost some of our hearing from the loud sucking sound of jobs leaving this country? Is it now a Democratic President who has expanded war and imperialism? Is it not now a Democratic President, who, despite twice the rate of unemployment, 3 times the rate of poverty and 15 times less wealth among blacks relative to whites, has written off the issue of racial inequality?  Is not Medicare and Social Security on the table under this Democratic administration? Have not the administration been employing tax cuts, which is the traditional Republican policy? People cannot see the shift? Yes, people see the shift but they are not voting FOR the democrats as much as they are voting AGAINST the republicans. Thus, the elite can prop up radical politicians to the right to pull the Democratic Party to the right as they accept the changing positions of democratic politicians out of fear of the more radical Republicans gaining control.


If you were to ask me, Corporate America should WANT Obama to serve another term. If you ask me, War mongers and imperialist should want Obama to serve another term. If you ask me, those who want to write off the black struggle and sweep it under the rug of history, should want Obama to serve another term. If you ask me, those who want the decline of America blamed on a black person, should want Obama to be reelected.

 

Sista ER wrote:   I was reading in another thread here on the Board (can't remember which!) but it was something about protesting .... in this and other countries ... and at least TWO mentions were made about protests being referred to as a "Million (Person) March"!!! 

 

And I'm thinking to myself ..... Isn't it AMAZING how, seemingly no matter WHAT we do/get/start/achieve ..... EVERYBODY wants to get in on it, copy it, use it, emulate it, better themselves with it, take it one step further .... and aren't even TRYING to "disguise" it as something else!!  They FOLLOW what we do ... lock and stop!!    And LOVE it!!!  And, even more surprisingly (considering we are the MOST MALIGNED race on the PLANET!!!) ... most will give us the full credit we deserve for establishing it!!! 

 

 Yep.  And these are the kinds of discussions we as blackfolks should be having.  It is prevelant and important to our culture.  Cuz everyone under the same hammer [in other oppressed countries] is WATCHING what we do....so they will have a "model" for justice.  And they GET IT!!!  Cuz they understand how effective whatever it is we're doing has on the goal.  But do some of us here in America realize how powerful that is?  Hell to the Nawl.  Too busy blastin' each other either verbally or violently.  Pitiful.  Which is how we got enslaved in the first place. This crab in the barrel bullshyte.  While massa creeps in and steal an entire continent.  BTW:  One of my colleagues just got back from Africa...the experience blew her away.  She says she now understand what the fuss was all about and WHY the Europeans/Arabs wanted to keep Africa for themselves.  She says it is absolutely beautiful, amazing and when you first step foot on its soil....you know you're home.   

 

From "Million Man" protests ... to rap music ... to soul food ... (and I throw that in because just now on the local news was a report about "the best hamburger in the country" ... with the title being given to a White woman, in 4th Ward - a Black neighborhood that White people apparently travel FAR AND WIDE to get into to get one of these burgers!!!  ).

 

BUT .... the bottom line here is that Black people COULD BE leading the charge in so many ways!!!  If we were GOING SOMEWHERE ... it's almost as if we could have the WHOLE WORLD following our LEAD!! 

 

Exactly!  This is why when I have music performers come to my programs...especially the "rappers" I let them know upfront it is important to let YOUR community SEE you giving back. So bring sumthing for the kids!   Cuz I have this thang about rappers.  If they can spend $150 thousand dollars on a gold chain to wear for ONE night....they can donate that same amount or spend that same amount on computers/equipment/ materials and give it to the neighborhood schools where they grew up.  Cuz it's like you said above black people can be leading in many ways.... even these so-called rappers.  Cuz you know every kids between the ages of 11-16 wants to be either a rap star or some ball player-what better way to get their attention and a positive image as well. 

 

 My personal belief for that is because, (once again as the "racist" that I am!) I DO wholeheartedly believe that, as it has been said, Black people are a "moral compass" of sorts ... for this country .... and indeed for the world.  And for those "others" who are enlightened enough to be able to see us for the type of people we really are .... and what we have to offer .... they are more than happen to acknowledge our greatness ... SADLY ... even more so in some cases, than we, ourselves, are willing to see in ourselves!! 

 

 

 

True dat...my sista! [thank God there is somebody else that sees this-how many of us

old schoolers are left?]  The wonderment of Africans....is viewed all over the world

disguise behind the European's lies.  And the world knows it as is why they are eager

to acknowledge our greatness and excellence cuz they know it to be TRUE.  My convo

with a young brotha indicates that we are STILL being brainwashed into believing

 that we are worthless.  And we take that and give back to each other so that in the

interim...while we are fighting and sabotaging each other successes....the other cultures come along and duplicate it and take credit.  And when we finally look up....we get angry cuz now billions of dollars are being made from something that came from our brains.  When will we ever learn?

 

I can't TELL you how deeply I am wishing that Black people in this country would WAKE THE FOCK UP ... once and for all .... and get it together so we can begin the process that's going to lead us to take our RIGHTFUL PLACE in this world!!!  I want to SEE it in my lifetime!!! 

 

 

 

 

Me too.  But the probability of it not happening in our lifetime is evident on this forum.  Cuz it appears that some of us don't wanna believe in ourselves.  We want someone else to TELL us or show us how to believe in ourselves.  We have to feel it in our hearts that we have what it TAKES to lead.  And that's why I think some blackfolks are sooooooo down on my President.  Cuz they keep telling him to LEAD but truly they don't KNOW what true leadership is.  It isn't a fast food mentality like massa wants us to believe.  It is a strategic level of steps to achieve the goal.  But because black people have been told they cannot lead unless massa is behind them in some way some how either directly or indirectly.....then you get this empty anger pointed in the wrong direction if there isn't a white man [with a cape on ] somewhere to make us feel good....while we still do nothing with the opportunity of a lifetime right in our hands.  Again.  Pitiful.  I can even listen to this bullshyte if I knew that those opponents of Obama were out there doing their part [however large or small] for our people/culture...but!  I know just from what is said here on this forum....they are doing absolutely NOTHING...but!  Flapping their gums.  So as far as I'm concern their vote [ in terms of what is deemed leadership] don't count....cuz they. do. not. KNOW.  Po things.  Won't be satisfied until we are back in the Jim Crow era.  Then they will actually have sumthing tangible to complain about...but!  It will be their own fault!

 

 

 

But .... the way we're going these days .... .... I just don't know.

 

 

 

Now .... just so you know .... I AM gonna be late and it's ALL your fault, Sis!! 

 

 

 

Thank you!  This is an important and necessary discussion.  Cuz there are folks [young black people in particular] out there who really NEED to hear this/read it/digest it....alladat cuz.  Life isn't EASY.  It's not a commerical....a three-minute video or a youtube special.  It's real.  And most times you are not gonna GET everything you want in your lifetime....but!  That's not the issue.  Obtaining things shouldn't be the main focus.....the main focus should be to continue this magnificent progress for our offsprings to come or as you say "younguns."  I know some blackfolks don't think in the future like that.  And to me that is why it is so easy or for a better word simply for most of us to swallow losing two generations of blackfolks.  We have learned to dismiss ourselves, our worth...who we are to the world. So it's out there my sista. No empty words here.  Hopefully, some will read this and get angry and do some productive things to show that they are in fact "leadership" material...even if its leading themselves somewhere positive...just.  Show me show me show me.  And what they will discover quite soon is they always had what it took to make it in life and they NEVER needed massa to justisfy, define, or acknowledge...a damn thing.  Others may read this and look inside themselves and find EXACTLY what they need to accomplish any goal they ever wanted-and will realize too....they DON'T need massa's approval to get started with their lives. And like the hands before the forks;  what was here first?  If they can answer that question in an instance....they are more ahead of the game than they think....but!  We'll see.  Stimulating convo my sista  But!  I'm just sayin 

 

 

 

 

Mad at Obama's Speech? Check the Tape
 
 

Date: Wednesday, September 28, 2011
By: Tonyaa Weathersbee, BlackAmericaWeb.com

 

 

 

Somehow, I had a feeling that there was more to the story.

 

It seems the headlines that emerged from a recent Congressional Black Caucus dinner caused a number of black people to wonder whether President Barack Obama decided to serve up a dish of the GOP’s personal responsibility hypocrisy at the affair.

 

Such headlines ran the gamut, from “Obama tells blacks to stop complaining” to “Obama tells blacks to stop complainin’ and fight,” to “Obama to CBC: ‘Stop complaining, stop whining.’”

 

No doubt those words, taken alone, wouldn’t go down well at dinner with the CBC – whose members are seeing their constituents grapple with unemployment rates of more than 16 percent. That obscene jobless rate isn’t because of whining on the part of black people, but largely because of greed and excesses on the part of Wall Street.

 

Those words, in fact, have inspired questions about whether Obama would tell Jewish or Hispanic voters – two of his other key constituencies – to stop whining. They’ve provoked criticism from U.S. Rep. Maxine Waters, who believes that Obama was suggesting that the CBC wasn’t doing enough to help battle black unemployment.

 

And if I was at that dinner, and if Obama was speaking in the way that many of the headlines and isolated quotes implied, I’d probably walk out. If I wanted that, I could just turn to Fox News.
Which is why I had a hard time believing that Obama would resort to that kind of shallowness. So I looked at the video.

 

What I saw wasn’t a president who was fussing at black people about whining too much, but one who was exhorting black people to put their frustrations behind them long enough to help him battle the forces that are behind it.

 

What I saw was a president who urged the CBC to tap into their history of beating back demons like segregation and discrimination and use it to join him in beating back those who’d rather see the country fail before they allow him and people who look like him to succeed.

 

I didn’t see a chider. I didn’t see a “you people,” kind of condescension coming from him.

 

What I saw was a motivator.

 

“Throughout our history, change has often come slowly,” Obama said. “It’s never easy ... I never promised easy. But you can’t stop.

 

“Even when folks are beating you over the head, you can’t stop ... through the mud and the muck and the driving rain, you can’t stop. We know our cause is just. It’s a righteous cause.”

 

And the president wrapped up his speech with this: “I don’t have time to complain; I’m going to press on. I expect all of you to march with me and press on. Take off your bedroom slippers, put on your marching shoes. Shake it off. Stop complaining, stop grumbling, stop crying. We are going to press on. We’ve got work to do, CBC.”

 

That wasn’t a president urging black people to ignore their own plight. It was a president urging black people and black leaders to not become so discouraged about him or about their plight until they give up on fixing it.

 

Yet, the only thing that made headlines was the last few words of his speech.

 

There’s a cautionary tale here, folks.

 

First of all, let me say that there’s nothing wrong with criticizing the president. I’ve done so in many of my columns. But in criticizing Obama, what we need to be aware of is that many times, much of the media cares more about the narrative than the truth.
And right now, the narrative that seems to be ruling the day is the fact that Obama’s most loyal constituency is disappointed with his record on job creation.

 

But we can’t base our criticism of Obama on headlines largely written by white people in mainstream media. We can’t trust them to know more about our history, or understand it enough to report news like Obama’s CBC speech, in the proper context.

 

In other words, and especially as the presidential election cycle heats up, we have to be willing to look at the tape. So that when we do criticize the president, we criticize him on real issues and not on perceived slights that make for controversial headlines.

 

Headlines that are designed to grab eyeballs more than to get at the whole truth.

Assuming his analysis is correct, then why does he not motivate Hispanic, Jewish and Gay audiences in the same manner using those same words?  Certainly if Obama believes in a post racial America and that a rising tide will lift all boats, then he should be giving the same rising tide motivational speeches to every interest group and not tailoring speeches based upon race, ethnicity or religion and reserving the use of words like complaining, whining and the like to black audiences.


Obama is fighting for HIS SUCCESS and trying to convince you that HIS SUCCESS is related to your success, when the truth is that his success at winning the Presidency, relative to Clinton, has not translated into success for black people, only worsening socioeconomic gaps between the races, which he will not even dignify in his post racial philosophy. Black folks need to start asking “what do we get out of it”.  He wants you to go fight and march with him……for what…..so that he can essentially expand NAFTA so that more good paying jobs can be sucked out of America? Are we going to fight with him so that they can use a black man to cover up increased imperialism and re-colonization of Africa? Are we going to fight with him to create the type of post racial America that HIDES the egregious racial socioeconomic gaps that are the legacy effect of centuries of racial oppression? It sounds to me like black folks need to be marching AGAINST the expansion of wars, opening up new free trade agreements and sweeping the effects of years of racism under the rug.  

Mannnnnn .... I wish y'all haters would make up your minds, all ready!! 

 

FIRST you say that President Obama should pay particular and specific attention to Black people's issues.  Support his OWN race in our OWN way.  Don't act like we - or he - are in the same situation as everybody else. He needs to distinguish our plight from the rest of the crew.  Do the Black thang in the Black way.

  

BUT THEN outta the SAME mouth and practically using the SAME breath you say that the President should treat EVERY RACE the same ... speak to EVERYBODY in the same tone ... make NO DISTINCTIONS between Black people and the Hispanics, Asians, Jewish, gays, etc.  Don't say one thing to us and another thing to somebody else!!    After all ... we're all going through the SAME thing, right!?!?!  So why treat US any different ... when we're all alone in a room together ... able to speak freely ... Black person to Black people??

 

So, I mean .... Damn.    Which is it??  

 

 

  • Obama’s Preaching Doesn’t Reach
  • President Obama's speech to the Congressional Black Caucus this weekend was a combination of traditional black preaching and civil rights rhetoric, designed to stir up his beleaguered African American base. Not everyone was impressed, however. Maxine Waters, congresswoman from California and a member of the CBC, said "she found the president’s language a bit curious. She says that Obama didn't address Hispanics in such a blunt manner and would never use that language in a speech to a gathering of gays or Jews."

  • I agree. While my Twitter feed was filled with happiness about the president finally "speaking the truth," I was perturbed by his rhetorical delivery and statements like "taking off your slippers." Seriously. Has the president ever asked a white Democratic audience to "take off your slippers?"

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    Obama's performance of black preaching may play well to church folks who love him no matter what, but to those critical of his policies that have placed African Americans at the highest unemployment rates, the president's fake whooping rings hollow. Why is it that every time the president speaks to a predominately black audience, he goes into a preacher's cadence, and starts to speak as though he were at a pulpit? Why is it that he never gets "righteously angry" with the white folks as often as he does at the black folks?

  •  

    If you think I am harsh, consider a segment of the president's 2010 CBC speech: "I need everybody here to go back to your neighborhoods to go back to your workplaces, to go to churches and go to the barbershops and go to the beauty shops, and tell them we've got more work to do."

     

    Damn. I think most black people I know do more than just work, go to church, and get their hair done.

    Let me say it more bluntly. The president said at the end of his CBC speech: "[I] expect all of you to march with me and press on. Take off your bedroom slippers, put on your marching shoes. Shake it off. Stop complaining, stop grumbling, stop crying. We are going to press on."

  •  

    That was the moment that the president turned into a jackleg preacher. A jackleg preacher is an untrained preacher who relies on tried and true tropes to get his audience to respond to preaching. If a jackleg is really good, he or she can get the money or whatever else they want by hitting the sweet spot, that emotional place where the congregation always responds well, because they recognize the feelings and emotions the jackleg preacher wants to evoke. Referring to taking off the slippers and putting on marching shoes is a tired racist trope, and besides, isn't Snooki the person who wears her slippers in public? I don't think she's African American.

  •  

    There is a history with Obama's speeches to predominantly black audiences that either try to use respectability or shame to change steroetypical behavior. Obama's 2008 speech excoriating absent black fathers at the Apostolic Church of God in Chicago, and his comments on the campaign trail in 2008 in Beaumont, Texas urging black parents "not to feed their kids cold Popeye's chicken for breakfast," are just two examples of how Obama deploys this racially-coded rhetorical strategy. The president's behavior since taking office towards the African American community has been either to tell black folks to get in line and get to work, or gee, I love ya'll, but I need your vote. If only he would speak to Republicans and Tea Partiers in the same harsh manner.

    All of this has come at a time when the president's approval ratings have hit a new low of 41%, and the black unemployment rate is at its highest since the Reagan administration, 16.7%. The president's largest decline this past month in approval ratings is among African American voters. No surprise. Pandering to black church stereotypes of preaching, trying to hoop, and banging your bully pulpit isn't going to win 2012.

  •  

    I want to believe President Obama is better, I really do. These speeches that trade in the tropes and imagery from African American life, while fussing at all of "us" to get to work, are wearing my patience thin. I realize there is a speechwriter behind them, but damn, it's like Obama and his speechwriter are watching BAPS to learn about African American lives. If this is his idea of being a prophetic voice, I’ll take his boring professorial voice any day. Stop pandering, Mr. President. You can't play Church if you don't know what it really is about.

See what you will, however, I personally would have no problem with Obama tailoring speech specifically for black people if he was consistent in that regards with policy as well. To not see color when it comes to policy, despite egregious racial differences in economic conditions, but then to see color when giving speeches, as if each group has to be treated based upon their condition in degree and or kind, is hypocrisy.


I certainly was not arguing that I want Obama to give the same speech to everyone, but rather, simply pointing out what Obama would do if he upheld the principle of not giving special attention or differentiation to black unemployment and poverty, based upon a rising tide theory. We should all benefit equally from the same rising tide of campaign rhetoric that is emanating from his mouth. Instead, we get speeches tailored for the audience because that is the most effective way to get what he needs from each group.


In all aspects of business and life, targeting has proved to be the most efficient way to solve and deal with problems. You treat all groups the same when there are no performance gaps between them and target areas for special efforts were the performance is lacking. So I am actually a proponent of targeting, as advertisers use it all the time as the most effective means to spend their ad dollars to get customers. It’s a proven methodology, yet, Obama will not go there in regards to policy because its political poison, especially in these times, with things getting worse for white economically and having the first black president in the white house and the fears of favoritism.


I am not asking Obama to take the poison pill………which is why I did not advocate his Presidency. The pill is much deadlier for a liberal black politician governing and dependent upon a white majority than it is for a white politician governing the same populous. Thus, as one who puts the interest of 41 million black folks over the interest and accent of one black person, it’s a no brainer. To love Obama is to HATE on 41 million black people, because Obama cannot be successful if he does anything to close the growing socioeconomic racial gaps in America.


Damn Haters!

Sista ER wrote: 

Mannnnnn .... I wish y'all haters would make up your minds, all ready!! 

 

FIRST you say that President Obama should pay particular and specific attention to Black people's issues.  Support his OWN race in our OWN way.  Don't act like we - or he - are in the same situation as everybody else. He needs to distinguish our plight from the rest of the crew.  Do the Black thang in the Black way.

  

BUT THEN outta the SAME mouth and practically using the SAME breath you say that the President should treat EVERY RACE the same ... speak to EVERYBODY in the same tone ... make NO DISTINCTIONS between Black people and the Hispanics, Asians, Jewish, gays, etc.  Don't say one thing to us and another thing to somebody else!!    After all ... we're all going through the SAME thing, right!?!?!  So why treat US any different ... when we're all alone in a room together ... able to speak freely ... Black person to Black people??

 

So, I mean .... Damn.    Which is it??  

 

  Amen.

When the going gets rough, beat up on the Blacks. That’s been a rule of American politics for many generations – so why should Barack Obama be any different? “Obama took his church voice to the Congressional Black Caucus annual awards dinner to very pointedly demand that Blacks stop bugging their president about the economic catastrophe that has befallen them, and his own role in it.” Duly chastised, the Black lawmakers accepted their assignment.

Obama Humiliates the Black Caucus – and They Pretend Not to Notice

 

by BAR executive editor Glen Ford

Obama has very publicly commanded them to shut up and perform what he believes is their only legitimate function: to get him re-elected.”

This magazine spent much of the 2008 presidential campaign warning that reflexive, unquestioning, uncomplaining support for Barack Obama would render African Americans politically irrelevant for the next four years. “About 90 percent of Black America has allied itself with a candidate that never promised them a damn thing,” we wrote, back on April Fools Day, 2008. One year before, in Selma, Alabama, Obama had first deployed his pseudo-Baptist preacher delivery to announce that Blacks had already come “90 percent of the way” towards equality, strongly inferring that his election would take us the other ten percent of the way, while simultaneously sending “a signal to whites that the days of Black racial agitation were nearly over.”

Earlier in the year, in Reno, Nevada, candidate Obama

“…expressed deep empathy with those Reaganites who had been so repulsed by the ‘excesses of the 1960s and 1970s.’ On Katrina, Obama declared that government ‘incompetence’ after the storm ‘had been colorblind.’ If that were true, then every act of man in the aftermath of the hurricane was racism-free. That was Obama’s position.”

By June of 2008, it was clear to Obama and his handlers that there was no insult that African Americans would not gladly endure – even cheer – for the chance to see one of their own in the Oval Office. For the first time in history, Blacks had made not a single demand in a presidential election; their bamboozlement was complete. A no-risk, public humiliation of Black folks was in order, for the benefit of white voters who might still be wondering if Obama was really the kind of Negro who could be trusted with the keys to the White House. What better day to denigrate Black men, than Father’s Day?

It was clear to Obama and his handlers that there was no insult that African Americans would not gladly endure – even cheer – for the chance to see one of their own in the Oval Office.”

With a feigned familiarity dripping with contempt, Obama scorned and mockedcardboard characters named “Pookie” and “Ray-Ray” for “acting like boys instead of men,” sitting on the couch watching television while feeding cold chicken to their children who were then let out to roam the streets. "You and I know how true this is in the African-American community," said the candidate.

The larger, intended audience – white people, via corporate media – read the reassuring news: "Obama Tells Black Fathers to Act Like Men" (AFP), "Obama Calls on Black Men to Be Better Fathers" (U.S. News & World Report), "Black Fathers Missing From Too Many Lives" (The Age), "Obama Calls for More Responsibility From Black Fathers" (NYT).

Obama shrewdly chose “the politically conservative (in Black terms) Apostolic Church of God as the venue for his blanket Black male denunciation,” as a reminder to “whites that he was no longer a member of Trinity United Church of Christ, formerly pastored by Rev. Jeremiah Wright, also located on Chicago's South Side,” we wrote.

Like others, we at BAR were outraged:

Can one imagine Obama or any other presidential aspirant repeatedly hectoring any other ethnic group on moral issues? Singling out Jews for excessive materialism? The Irish for excessive drinking? Of course not; that would be unfair and politically suicidal. But there are large regions of the white body politic in which it is not only acceptable, but damn near required, that politicians demonstrate their impatience with the alleged moral shortcomings of Black people. Barack Obama trolls for votes in those foul waters, at the cost of Black people's dignity.”

Can one imagine Obama or any other presidential aspirant repeatedly hectoring any other ethnic group.”

Three years later, in the same week that he bowed down to Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu before the assembled nations of the world, in New York City, Obama took his church voice to the Congressional Black Caucus annual awards dinner to very pointedly demand that Blacks stop bugging their president about the economic catastrophe that has befallen them, and his own role in it. “Take off your bedroom slippers. Put on your marching shoes,” Obama hectored. “Shake it off. Stop complainin’. Stop grumblin’. Stop cryin’. We are going to press on. We have work to do.”

Black Caucus chairman Rep. Emanuel Cleaver had earlier told reporters, “If Bill Clinton had been in the White House and had failed to address this [Black unemployment] problem, we probably would be marching on the White House." But Obama came to lay down the law: any marching that you might do will be for my re-election.

The well-oiled crowd cheered.

Los Angeles congresswoman Maxine Waters seemed to be the only Black lawmaker capable of an adult response:

I’m not sure who the president was addressing. I found that language a bit curious. The president spoke to the Hispanic Caucus… he certainly didn’t tell them to stop complaining and he never would say that to the gay and lesbian community who really pushed him on don’t ask don’t tell or even in a speech to APEC, he would never say to the Jewish community stop complaining about Israel.”

But she won’t hold it against Obama.

So I don’t know who he was talking to because we’re certainly not complaining. We are working. We support him and we are protecting that base because we want people to be enthusiastic about him when that election rolls around.”

Texas congresswoman Sheila Jackson-Lee said she “didn’t take offense” at Obama’s language or tone. “I believe I know his heart,” she told PBS host Tavis Smileywho, along with Princeton Prof. Cornel West, has stepped out of the ranks to oppose the president on his record. “The president came in the armor of a brother or a sister,” said Jackson-Lee. “The captain was trying to say, I’m in charge, I want you with me.” The Caucus will continue “crying and complaining, yes we will,” about the pain of their constituents. “We will continue to press the envelope.”

Press what? The Black Caucus, as a body, meekly murmured and mumbled as the administration transferred the equivalent of the U.S. gross domestic product to the banks while Black America disintegrated. Now, with Obama’s numbers falling, he has very publicly commanded them to shut up and perform what he believes is their only legitimate function: to get him re-elected. In the looming contest, he will again resort to Black-baiting whenever it is useful to shore up white support. In that – as with his foreign and domestic policies – Obama is no different than white corporate politicians. His one great distinction, is to have a core constituency that cares more for his security and dignity, than their own

 

http://www.blackagendareport.c...y-pretend-not-notice

Grumbles persist about talk to black base, but Obama's used the language before

 

The White House is still answering questions about the president's somewhat controversial remarks at a Congressional Black Caucus dinner this weekend.

"I'm going to press on for the sake of all those families who are struggling right now," the president said before black lawmakers and guests on Saturday. "I don’t have time to feel sorry for myself. I don’t have time to complain. I am going to press on. I expect all of you to march with me and press on. Take off your bedroom slippers, put on your marching shoes. Shake it off. Stop complaining, stop grumbling, stop crying.  We are going to press on. We’ve got work to do, CBC."

It was meant to be a rallying cry near the end of his remarks, but the comment has become a flashpoint with lawmakers like Rep. Maxine Waters (D-CA). "I'm not sure who the president was addressing," Waters told CBS on Monday. "I found that language a bit curious because the President spoke to the Hispanic caucus and certainly they're pushing him on immigration...He certainly didn't tell them to stop complaining and he would never say that to the gay and lesbian community who really pushed him on "don't ask, don't tell."

However, today, White House Press Secretary Jay Carney pointed out the president has used this language before.

Indeed, he's correct.

Two weeks ago, promoting his jobs plan at North Carolina State University in Raleigh, N.C., the President said:

"We’re bigger than the politics we’ve been putting up with. We’re patriots and pioneers and innovators and entrepreneurs. Through individual effort, but also through a commitment to one another, we have built an economy that is the engine and the envy of the world.  We’re not going to stop now. The time for hand-wringing is over. The time for moping around -- we’ve got to kick off our bedroom slippers and put on our marching shoes. We’ve got to get to work."

It was a line that also came near the end of that speech and induced applause in both crowds.

"I think there are individuals in every community who -- who might be unhappy with a political leader," Carney added.

In public, there doesn't seem to be a consensus among black lawmakers about what the president, who still enjoys strong approval ratings among black voters, meant. And based on interviews from MSNBC this week, black leaders had unique interpretations of the president's words.

"In the passion of the  moment, he talked about the complaining that he's hearing around the country inside the party," Chairman of the CBC Rep. Emanuel Cleaver (D-MO) said. "And he's saying that that's not helpful. Join in. We need all of the members of this coalition working together, so that we can successfully deal with reelection."

And Rep. Donna Edwards (D-MD), when asked about her reaction, said, "I was like most of the crowd there, incredibly enthusiastic by the president, the fighting  spirit the president was  showing. I actually went in to talk to a  group of seniors the following  day. And when I said to them, it's  time for us to stop complaining and to press on, they lit up the room just like the room in the Congressional Black Caucus. I think the President is right on message."

 

 

 

To the CBC: 


"Take off your bedroom slippers. Put on your maching shoes... "Shake it off. Stop complainin'. Stop grumblin'. Stop cryin'. We are going to press on. We have work to do."

 

 

To the other audience: 

 

"We’re bigger than the politics we’ve been putting up with. We’re patriots and pioneers and innovators and entrepreneurs. Through individual effort, but also through a commitment to one another, we have built an economy that is the engine and the envy of the world.  We’re not going to stop now. The time for hand-wringing is over. The time for moping around -- we’ve got to kick off our bedroom slippers and put on our marching shoes. We’ve got to get to work."

 

 

 

People trippin' over them damn slippers know good and damn well that "hand-wringing" has a different and much less negative connotation than "complaining" and tell (or even encouraging) someone to stop "moping" is nowhere near as negative as telling someone to stop "crying" or "grumbling."

 

 

Now, I'm all for people telling Tavis Smiley and Cornell West to STFU but people are just being plain dishonest when they claim they can't see the difference because each and every damn one of ya'll know Pres. Obama has never treated any of his other constituent group as poorly as he has African-Americans, though he has played a mean game of Punch The Hippie from time to time.

 

When gays "complained" about his foot-dragging on DADT or DOMA he didn't say, "Shake it off. Stop complainin'. Stop grumblin'. Stop cryin'."  He hasn't said that to Hispanics, a group that he's somehow not afraid to speak directly to "their" issues and concerns (a la immigration reform, the Dream Act, etc.).

 

 

Originally Posted by Nquest:

To the CBC: 


"Take off your bedroom slippers. Put on your maching shoes... "Shake it off. Stop complainin'. Stop grumblin'. Stop cryin'. We are going to press on. We have work to do."

 

 

To the other audience: 

 

"We’re bigger than the politics we’ve been putting up with. We’re patriots and pioneers and innovators and entrepreneurs. Through individual effort, but also through a commitment to one another, we have built an economy that is the engine and the envy of the world.  We’re not going to stop now. The time for hand-wringing is over. The time for moping around -- we’ve got to kick off our bedroom slippers and put on our marching shoes. We’ve got to get to work."

 

 

 

People trippin' over them damn slippers know good and damn well that "hand-wringing" has a different and much less negative connotation than "complaining" and tell (or even encouraging) someone to stop "moping" is nowhere near as negative as telling someone to stop "crying" or "grumbling."

 

 

Now, I'm all for people telling Tavis Smiley and Cornell West to STFU but people are just being plain dishonest when they claim they can't see the difference because each and every damn one of ya'll know Pres. Obama has never treated any of his other constituent group as poorly as he has African-Americans, though he has played a mean game of Punch The Hippie from time to time.

 

When gays "complained" about his foot-dragging on DADT or DOMA he didn't say, "Shake it off. Stop complainin'. Stop grumblin'. Stop cryin'."  He hasn't said that to Hispanics, a group that he's somehow not afraid to speak directly to "their" issues and concerns (a la immigration reform, the Dream Act, etc.).

 

 

 

yep... now people can understand what I was saying earlier this year.

I think people seem to forget that the Hispanics stopped "complainin', cryin' and grumblin' a looooonnnnngggggg time ago!!  And instead, actually GOT UP and GOT ORGANIZED and TOOK ACTION towards getting their issues heard!!!

 

Does nobody remember back in 2006 when MORE THAN 500,000 Hispanics marched the streets of Los Angeles, CA, alone???  While 300,000 MORE were marching in Dallas ... and MORE THAN 100,000 were protesting in Chicago???

 

The only thing BLACK PEOPLE have protested lately seems to be against the CBC for actually trying to HELP them get THEIR issues listened to by this President!!! 

 

Why would ANYBODY ... A-N-Y-B-O-D-Y .... not listen to an "in-your-face" political force like the Hispanic population who can/will/does put MILLIONS of people in the street ON ONE DAY to call attention to what they have to say???  

 

On top of that ..... you have a gay rights advocacy that has constructed a POLITICAL FORCE strong enough to get the issue of same-sex marriage into public and governmental debates, onto ballots for consideration or into elections for actual VOTING in almost EVERY STATE IN THIS COUNTRY!!

 

They're in the news, they're in the streets, they're in State Capitol buildings in front of state congresses.  They're loud, they're aggressive and they're unrelenting in their determination to get what they want DESPITE the fact that a majority of Americans DO NOT agree with them and are AGAINST what they are advocating for!!

 

And both groups have been doing this kind of political activism for YEARS.  With an "s". 

 

 

And so now people are figuring that Black people should have the SAME kind of political clout .... and be dealt with/talked to/placated/negotiated with in the same way because .....

 

Oh wait.  Don't tell me.  It's BLACK thang, right??? 

Originally Posted by EbonyRose:

I think people seem to forget that the Hispanics stopped "complainin', cryin' and grumblin' a looooonnnnngggggg time ago!!  And instead, actually GOT UP and GOT ORGANIZED and TOOK ACTION towards getting their issues heard!!!

 

Does nobody remember back in 2006 when MORE THAN 500,000 Hispanics marched the streets of Los Angeles, CA, alone???  While 300,000 MORE were marching in Dallas ... and MORE THAN 100,000 were protesting in Chicago???

 

The only thing BLACK PEOPLE have protested lately seems to be against the CBC for actually trying to HELP them get THEIR issues listened to by this President!!! 

 

 

 

Actually, AFrican-Americans GOT UP and GOT ORGANIZED and TOOK ACTION by coming out to vote for someone they perceived as being of them and like them to put him in office in 2008.  Hundred year old black people who had never voted before left the comfort of their homes to vote for Obama.  Is that not action to get our issues heard?

 

and long before hispanics marched in the street in support of amnesty for millions of undocumented brethren, African American men and women did Million Man March, MIllion Woman March, and have been marching for lots of occasions.  

 

Blacks took the action of putting someone in office who was supposed to be one of us and govern from a liberal perspective and with unique sensitivity to the plight of minorities.

 

It's a shame how nearly every thread devolves into "Black Folks sho is phukked up".

 

Long live Tavis and Cornell

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