OK Junebug you hit the showers too. You poor guys! the trick is not to stare so deeply into her eyes no matter how beautiful they are.

OK OK, save some cold water for me too. Cool
I think N Korea poses a much bigger threat than Iraq does, makes you work harder for a diplomatic solution. Wink They already have Nukes, with intercontinental missles that can reach the USA and a crazy fool that just might go there in Kim, the sawed off, dear god of the N. Korean people.

Only 5% of imported USA oil comes from Iraq which is the oil for food deal with have with Saddam.

80% of Frances oil comes from Iraq, whose really in the mix for the oil, huh? I think it obvious that it is France not the USA. If it was the oil that the USA was only interested in we had the whole Arab region in our hands back during the first Gulf War, we had Iraq, Saudi, Kuwait right in the middle of our military might, we did not take their oil fields then, why now? I think that the oil reason is a weak argument as to why the USA are going to do a regime change in Iraq.

Cool
Hey JazzDog, I can't help it, I wish they would take a few more clothes off so I can see all the assets, them eyes are just teasers, Big Grin Big Grin

The truth will set you free, but first it will piss you off.
The cold shower didn't help so here is my 2 cents.. Big Grin

The only reason nKorea is huffing and puffing is b/c they are scared and are worried that after GW finishes with Iraq they will be next. If it wasn't for the fact China has a long history with Korea we would be slapping them around right now. nKorea is a joke and they know it. We don't need to negotiate just let them continue to self destruct !!!!
As far as them having a missile to hit the US, big deal and so what. When GW made his point that if anyone uses WMDs we would respond heavily that pretty much sealed the deal. Kim is a fanatic but he loves himself too much to commit sucide and to risk losing the worship of all his people.
Reasonable person? Savage mentality of the Palestinians? I'm horrified. Have you heard of a state called Israel? Unjustifyingly built on Arab land? You think it's Arabs who are savages? Hmm ok, let's examine that?

1939 Haganah blew up the Iraqi oil pipeline near Haifa. Moshe Dayan was one of the participants in the act. This technique was used again in 1947 at least 4 times.

August 20, 1937 - June 29, 1939 During this period, Zionists carried out a series of attacks against Arab buses, resulting in the death of 24 persons and wounding 25 others.
(What were you saying before about the buses?)

November 25, 1940 S.S.Patria was blown up by Jewish terrorists in Haifa harbour, killing 268 illegal Jewish immigrants.

February 24, 1942 S.S. Struma exploded in the Black Sea, killing 769 illegal Jewish immigrants. Described by the Jewish Agency as an act of "mass-protest and mass-suicide."

November 6, 1944 Zionist terrorists of the Stern Gang assassinated the British Minister Resident in the Middle East, Lord Moyne, in Cairo.

July 22, 1946 Zionist terrorists blew up the King David Hotel in Jerusalem, which housed the central offices of the civilian administration of the government of Palestine, killing or injuring more than 200 persons. The Irgun officially claimed responsibility for the incident, but subsequent evidence indicated that both the Haganah and the Jewish Agency were involved.

October 1, 1946 The British Embassy in Rome was badly damaged by bomb explosions, for which Irgun claimed responsibility.

June 1947 Letters sent to British Cabinet Ministers were found to contain bombs.

September 3, 1947 A postal bomb addressed to the British War Office exploded in the post office sorting room in London, injuring 2 persons. It was attributed to Irgun or Stern Gangs. (The Sunday Times, Sept. 24, 1972, p.8)

December ll, 1947 Six Arabs were killed and 30 wounded when bombs were thrown from Jewish trucks at Arab buses in Haifa; 12 Arabs were killed and others injured in an attack by armed Zionists on an Arab coastal village near Haifa.

December 13,1947 Zionist terrorists, believed to be members of Irgun Zvai Leumi, killed 18 Arabs and wounded nearly 60 in Jerusalem, Jaffa and Lydda areas. In Jerusalem, bombs were thrown in an Arab market-place near the Damascus Gate; in Jaffa, bombs were thrown into an Arab cafe; in the Arab village of Al Abbasya, near Lydda, 12 Arabs were killed in an attack with mortars and automatic weapons.

December 19, 1947 Haganah terrorists attacked an Arab village near Safad, blowing up two houses, in the ruins of which were found the bodies of 10 Arabs, including 5 children. Haganah admitted responsibility for the attack.

December 29, 1947 Two British constables and 11 Arabs were killed and 32 Arabs injured, at the Damascus Gate in Jerusalem when Irgun members threw a bomb from a taxi.

December 30,1947 A mixed force of the Zionist Palmach and the "Carmel Brigade" attacked the village of Balad al Sheikh, killing more than 60 Arabs.

1947 -- 1948 Over 700,000 Palestinian Arabs were uprooted from their homes and land; since then, they have been denied the right to return or been given compensation for their property. After their expulsion, the "Israeli Forces" razed to the ground 385 Arab villages and towns out of a total of 475, and obliterated their remains.

January 1, 1948 Haganah terrorists attacked a village on the slopes of Mount Carmel; 17 Arabs were killed and 33wounded.

January 4, 1948 Haganah terrorists wearing British Army uniforms penetrated into the center of Jaffa and blew up the Serai (the old Turkish Government House) which was used as a headquarters of the Arab National Committee, killing more than 40 persons and wounding 98 others.

January 5, 1948 The Arab-owned Semiramis Hotel in Jerusalem was blown up, killing 20 persons, among them Viscount de Tapia, the Spanish Consul. Haganah admitted responsibility for this crime.

January 7, 1948 Seventeen Arabs were killed by a bomb at the Jaffa Gate in Jerusalem, 3 of them while trying to escape. Further casualties, including the murder of a British officer near Hebron, were reported from different parts of the country.

January 16, 1948 Zionists blew up three Arab buildings. In the first, 8 children between the ages of 18 months and 12 years, died.

December 13, 1947 -- February 10, 1948 Seven incidents of bomb-tossing at innocent Arab civilians in cafes and markets, killing 138 and wounding 271 others, During this period, there were 9 attacks on Arab buses. Zionists mined passenger trains on at least 4 occasions, killing 93 persons and wounding 161 others.


The list is endless, for more click here.

I don't understand why Americans are so brainwashed. You truly believe parents send their children off to die? Many of the suicide bombings were done in secret behind their parents back, in fear that their parents would stop them. What is wrong with American media? Oops, I meant American "Jewish" media. Thank God I've lived in London. Media here is very neutral.

And why do you have this fixated belief that the Israeli government is exonerated from sin? They make Hitler look like Barney. If we were seriously debating this, I'd being you up facts you couldn't even argue with. Ask yourself this, why hasn't Sharon ever stepped into Belguim? If he does, he'll be immediately convicted of the crimes of the Sabra and Chatilla massacres, which killed 1800 Palestinians and 17,500 Lebanese civilians.

Lack of education (Sharon shut schools down), lack of freedom (curfews), mass murder, poverty, no water supply, no food and the mere fact that your land has been seized by your enemy and the world is silent, is horrifying. Yet Palestinians are expected to sit on their homeless assess and "negotiate"? F*ck it, hell no. You think Israelis want negotiations? Don't make me burst into laughter, please. Why is it when psychologists ask Palestinian children to draw pictures, they draw pictures of tanks and dead bodies. Our children aren't encouraged to suicide bomb, but when they see their father shot, mother beaten, sisters taken in, no future they believe their lives are cheap and meaningless. I don't condone Suicide bombing because it's against my religion but hell I don't blame them at all.

Now imagine your son or daughter was shot right in front of you. (Muhammad Al-Durra, out buying his father cigarettes when shot by Israeli troops, being 11 years of age.) At the beginning they said it was a "cross fire", then when no one bought that, they said Palestinians "dress up" as Israeli troops and shoot eachother to gain support. Ridiculous BS. Girls my age are taken into prisons and raped. These concentration camps that they place Palestinians in are open until TODAY. I watched a documentary on it on British TV, where a former IDF soldier refused to give an interview. And another former soldier gave an interview and refuted the facts and said, "my daughter was killed by suicide bomber, but I was soldier, I saw what we did. When a woman is humiliated on a check-point in the morning, her son will commit suicide in the afternoon." He goes on to making a point by saying, "Suicide bombing didn't just come out of the blue, there must have been something that ignites it, and we do." Now I'm no fan of Israelis but I truly respected this man. He isn't the only who gave anti-israeli interviews, many more did. And I also gave you the links to all those peace-loving Jews sites didn't I?

Yes you are ignorant, unreasonable and down right brainwashed. Yes JuneBug go ahead and let Bush tell you "Arabs" are the enemy. But if you show resentment or antagonism towards Palestinians, you do so towards me. Why I blame everything on America is because Israel wouldn't stand today if it weren't for your government. Every penny towards Israel is a bullet. Thankfully I've boycotted Amerian products. How can you want Palestinians to show peace when they're not even free? After bombing Mosques and churches, women and children, civilians and reporters, homes and buses, the Palestinians are the ones who are savages?!!
I don't give a ratz ahz about people who brainwash their own kids with religious bullshiyt to commit suicide murders on innocent people. And until them honor killers of their own female sisters and daughters stop doing that shiyt, they can kiss my black ahz! I for one will never respect that, fuk'em!

OK, the world does not revolve around them backward ahz people. Peace is not their way, Islam is not a religion of peace as Malcolm X says, all you have to do is put a freakin hand on a backward ahz Muslim and you got a deadly conflict, and you live up to it too, and BTW, you are not peaceful a people you are full of hate and venom that is taught by your faith and by your religious leaders. Islam is the most intolerant faith ever created by men. If god is behind your beliefs then he can kiss my ahz too but I know damn well he's not.

Me and my homies was just talking about Malcolm X and it's agreed that he was bigger than the ideas of Islam, his ideas could never fit in the itty bitty box that Muslims are encourage to fit their lives in. Too bad Muslim haters shot him in cold blood because he spoke the truth about the leader of his faith.

You keep comin at me with that bullshiyt I'll keep comin back with my contempt for backward ahz Arabs like you and them stanky Pale ahz Palestinians.

This is a African American Board, not a pro Palestinian info board. I don't give a damn how much you hate Americans and Jews. We have problems of our own and the Pale ahz Palestinians are not our problem. If you want something done about it, then you Arabs invest your money in a military and take them Isrelis out but you know what will happen, they will kick your ahz'z again!

You Saudi's are the biggest hypocrites in the world and it is because of the ignant religious tenents your Country promote has made this world a more dangerous place. Yet, people like you lie with that bullshiyt that Islam is a religion of peace when you look at the world most of the armed conflicts are led by backward ahz Islamics that everybody must cowtow to to make you happy, fuk'em!

BTW, you are a hypocrite, when are you going back the that woman hatin Saudi of yours huh? I know why you love it in London because there you have freedom that you don't have in your home country governed by a bunch of religious control freaks! Who will beat your female Ahz if you aspire to drive a damn car. Yet, you want to promote a faith that condemn women in general, like your Holy Book says, there are more women in hell than men because it's filled with Islamic women who did not kiss the Ahz'z of their Mulsim husbands which means they did not appreciate their Muslim husbands. It's OK with Islam to beat your female Ahz's when the husband feels you need it. A faith of Peace my Ahz!

Talk to somebody else about them sorry ahz Palestinians and one more thing, we don't need your fukkin money, but you sorry ahz Saudis needed our military to save your LAZY sorry ahz's from Saddam yet you want to condemn us for trying to take him out. I'm not for any war but when our troops take the field I'm hoping for a great success and hope that we go about doing things differently in the future.

The US should have let Saddam take over the whole damn region and let him put you brainwashed Islamics in your place. Bush 41 made the wrong choice of allies. Saddam would have been better than the Saudis ever could be.

OK Wink

The truth will set you free, but first it will piss you off.

[This message was edited by JuneBug on February 20, 2003 at 08:06 AM.]
What an idiot!

It's o.k. Khalilallah leave it to me, I'm tired of talking to the "ignant" but I can't help myself this time.

First of all, you completely disregarded my last post on the Israel/Palestinian conflict and I wont repeat it as I'm too frustrated/tired.

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I don't give a ratz ahz about people who brainwash their own kids with religious bullshiyt to commit suicide murders on innocent people. And until them honor killers of their own female sisters and daughters stop doing that shiyt, they can kiss my black ahz! I for one will never respect that, fuk'em!


I already answered that in my previous post. But what I would like to add is these people don't strive for your respect because we frankly couldn't care less/need it. I hope your home gets demolished.

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OK, the world does not revolve around them backward ahz people. Peace is not their way, Islam is not a religion of peace as Malcolm X says, all you have to do is put a freakin hand on a backward ahz Muslim and you got a deadly conflict, and you live up to it too, and BTW, you are not peaceful a people you are full of hate and venom that is taught by your faith and by your religious leaders. Islam is the most intolerant faith ever created by men. If god is behind your beliefs then he can kiss my ahz too but I know damn well he's not.



Shows how much you know. How dare you speak about God in such a disrespectful manner?

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Me and my homies was just talking about Malcolm X and it's agreed that he was bigger than the ideas of Islam, his ideas could never fit in the itty bitty box that Muslims are encourage to fit their lives in. Too bad Muslim haters shot him in cold blood because he spoke the truth about the leader of his faith.


Nation of Islam is NOT Islam. They believe that Elijah Muhammad is God, bullshyt #1. They believe only one third of the quran applies to them, bullshyt #2. They believe white men are the devils, bullshyt #3. In both the Quran and the sayings of the prophet it is stated that we are all equal like the a head of a comb. The ones who are better are those who are "Atqakum", meaning more aware of God.

"No Arab has any superiority over a non-Arab, nor does a non-Arab have any superiority over an Arab. Nor does a white man have any superiority over a black man, or the black man any superiority over the white man. You are all the children of Adam, and Adam was created from clay" (al-Bayhaqi and al-Bazzaz). A saying by our prophet. Want more on equality? Go here.

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You keep comin at me with that bullshiyt I'll keep comin back with my contempt for backward ahz Arabs like you and them stanky Pale ahz Palestinians.


What's backward "ahz" exactly about me? Oh and you judge Palestinians by their colour? I'm supposed to be debating with a racist? And what makes you think all Palestinians are pale? And even if they were, so what?

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This is a African American Board, not a pro Palestinian info board. I don't give a damn how much you hate Americans and Jews. We have problems of our own and the Pale ahz Palestinians are not our problem. If you want something done about it, then you Arabs invest your money in a military and take them Isrelis out but you know what will happen, they will kick your ahz'z again!



I hate Americans and Jews? You know what that has become such a cliche that I now find it hilarious. Critisize US foreign policy and that makes you "hate Americans", same goes to Israel. You're ridiculous, honestly.

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BTW, you are a hypocrite, when are you going back the that woman hatin Saudi of yours huh? I know why you love it in London because there you have freedom that you don't have in your home country governed by a bunch of religious control freaks! Who will beat your female Ahz if you aspire to drive a damn car. Yet, you want to promote a faith that condemn women in general, like your Holy Book says, there are more women in hell than men because it's filled with Islamic women who did not kiss the Ahz'z of their Mulsim husbands which means they did not appreciate their Muslim husbands. It's OK with Islam to beat your female Ahz's when the husband feels you need it. A faith of Peace my Ahz!


1) I now live in Dubai in the United Arab Emirates, where I'm quite content, thank you very much.

2) Islam condemns women? First of all get your facts right, why there are more women in hell then men is because of backbiting, not failure to please husbands. We all know women gossip more than men and slandering is a sin in Islam.

3) A woman is an honorable role in Islam. I'm not bothered to state resons, and facts. If you want to read about it, go here.

You're nothing but a racist, ignorant, brainwashed fool. You talk about Islam when you can't even get facts straight. You support a racist, Hitler regime like Sharon's but wont accept racism against a black man, HYPOCRACY. You believe in self-defence and home-land security, but when it's from an Arab country, it's "terrorism", HYPOCRACY. You seem to believe that Arabs are hostile towards blacks, when we have black rulers but you can't even get a black president in your country, HYPOCRACY. And until your answer for everything isn't to "kiss your ahz", your arguement is useless.
WOW!! This was better than reading a book!! I never knew there were so many ways to spell slang for fornication and buttocks! Big Grin
Norland,

Do like me I pop a bowl of popcorn, get me a shot of crown and sit down and read! Its actually fun sometimes just to read instead of posting. Smile

I'll throw this opinion in through, while I may not agreed with everything thats going on with the Palestinian issue I can certainly agreed based on what I have read about the Palestinians hitting back and protecting their own.

Now, lets go back to ringside Big Grin
Wink LOL

you said: "First of all, you completely disregarded my last post on the Israel/Palestinian "

Did I not tell you more than once in so many words "That I don't give a damn about them stanky Pale Ahz Palestinians" Get that through your head, OK. All of them can kiss my shiny Black Ahz, you too. Wink

And I thought you was an expert AQ...

* Narrated Ibn 'Abbas:
The Prophet said:"I was shown the Hell-fire and that the majority of its dwellers were women who were ungrateful." It was asked, "Do they disbelieve in Allah?" (or are they ungrateful to Allah?) He replied, "They are ungrateful to their husbands and are ungrateful for the favors and the good (charitable deeds) done to them. If you have always been good (benevolent) to one of them and then she sees something in you (not of her liking), she will say, 'I have never received any good from you." (Sahih Bukhari 1.28, Sahih Bukhari 2.541)

I really find this insulting if I was a woman....

prayers annulled by women, monkeys or dogs passing in front,
* Narrated 'Aisha: The things which annul the prayers were mentioned before me. They said, "Prayer is annulled by a dog, a donkey and a woman (if they pass in front of the praying people)." I said, "You have made us (i.e. women) dogs. I saw the Prophet praying while I used to lie in my bed between him and the Qibla. Whenever I was in need of something, I would slip away, for I disliked to face him." (Sahih Bukhari 1.490, also Sahih Bukhari 1.493)

It's not slander AQ.... what does it say below LOL Big Grin

The truth will set you free, but first it will piss you off.

[This message was edited by JuneBug on February 21, 2003 at 12:59 PM.]
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Did I not tell you more than once in so many words "That I don't give a damn about them stanky Pale Ahz Palestinians" Get that through your head, OK. All of them can kiss my shiny Black Ahz, you too.


Sorry my mouth aint big enough :P. You were critisizing Palestinian action, I gave you reason for the action, you proceed to "not care" thus disregarding my previous post. I couldn't care less if you're concerned or not because they will prevail with or without you.

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* Narrated 'Aisha: The things which annul the prayers were mentioned before me. They said, "Prayer is annulled by a dog, a donkey and a woman (if they pass in front of the praying people)." I said, "You have made us (i.e. women) dogs. I saw the Prophet praying while I used to lie in my bed between him and the Qibla. Whenever I was in need of something, I would slip away, for I disliked to face him." (Sahih Bukhari 1.490, also Sahih Bukhari 1.493)



I'll have to check the authenticity of the hadith, because I think it might have been translated wrong, but nonetheless I don't feel offended at all. Just because I annul a prayer doesn't make me a dog. Just makes me powerful Wink. Same way a nun can't give sermons because she might distract the men, should she then feel offended? Why a donkey and dog annul prayer is because they're dirty animals, but when I annul a prayer doesn't make me dirty, just a distraction.

As for the hellfire thing, you'll get a better explanation here.
What does any of this have to do with NK getting they azz whupped? Roll Eyes



Now is the time to make real the promises of Democracy.
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Originally posted by ArabianQueen:
If North Korea should abolish it's weapons programme then so should South Korea.


I may be wrong but I don't think that south korea has a weapons program in the same manner that the north koreans do. Any threat of use of nuclear weapons is borne by the US. The south koreans don't even have a long range missle program like what the north koreans are developing so there is really not a weapons program to abolish.
How about EVERYONE abolishing their weapons programs, stepping into a huge arena with Mike Tyson, and eliminating ALL this feuding world-wide in 49 seconds?
Upon issuing his famous statement in regards to the Axis of Evil, Bush set the stage for this. The North Koreans are just preparing for an invasion by the U.S. after Iraq.

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