North American Border Crossings to Require Passports
By Paul Richter
Times Staff Writer


6:57 PM PDT, April 5, 2005

WASHINGTON -- In a move intended to counter terrorism, Americans will have to show passports or other specialized documents to re-enter the country from Mexico and Canada beginning in 2008, U.S. officials said Tuesday.

Under the new restrictions, recommended by the Sept. 11 commission, Americans no longer will be allowed to show only a driver's license or a government-issued photo identification card, officials said. Similarly, Canadians, who have been able to enter the United States with a driver's license, will need a passport.

Some in the travel industry have opposed the changes, which would make it harder for travelers to take spur-of-the-moment trips. Critics have argued that it would bring an end to a long relationship between the United States and Canada that allowed casual cross-border travel as a part of daily life.

But U.S. officials point out that the Algerian man who was convicted of plotting to bomb Los Angeles International Airport on the eve of the millennium was admitted from Canada without a passport.

U.S. officials decided to tighten the borders to keep out "people who want to hurt us," Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice said.

Under the planned rules, Americans returning from Panama and Bermuda also would need to show passports or secure documents, officials said. Currently, Americans returning from Mexico, Panama or Bermuda need only show a government-issued ID card, plus proof of citizenship, such as a birth certificate or a naturalization certificate.

In addition to passports, American travelers would be able to use the secure "border crossing card" also known as a "laser visa." Some Mexicans traveling frequently to the United States use the laser ID in place of a passport and visa.

Officials said they anticipate travelers will be able to obtain secure ID cards issued under several federal programs, such as those for Mexicans who travel frequently to the United States, other frequent travelers and shippers. The new rules will be phased in between now and 2008. The passport rule will be imposed on air and sea travel to and from the Caribbean, Bermuda and Central and South America starting Dec. 31, 2005. It will be extended to Canada and Mexico starting Dec. 31, 2006.

The changes are required under the intelligence-reform law approved by Congress and signed by President Bush last year. In implementing the law's requirements, State Department officials said there would be a 60-day period for public comment, to allow affected businesses and individuals to express their views. The rules could undergo changes based on the comments before they become final this fall.

"We recognize the implications this might have for industry, business and the general public, as well as our neighboring countries, and they are important partners in this initiative," said Maura Harty, assistant secretary of State for consular affairs.

Even with the new requirement, Canadians would be exempt from fingerprinting requirements that apply to other foreign visitors on entry to the United States, officials said.

Some Canadians have voiced criticism about U.S. border concerns. In reaction, one Canadian official said his country might begin requiring Americans to show their passports before crossing into Canada.

"We will review our requirements for American citizens, and we're going to do that in collaboration with the United States," Canadian Public Safety Minister Anne McLellan said outside the House of Commons in Ottawa.

Maryscott "Scotty" Greenwood, executive director of the Washington-based Canadian American Business Council, said that for traffic to continue to flow smoothly with the new rules, governments would have to provide sufficient resources at the border, and would have to make people in border communities fully aware of the new requirements.

"Implementation will be crucial," she said.
 
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Americans will have to show passports or other specialized documents to re-enter the country from Mexico and Canada beginning in 2008,---article

I wouldn't think this is not understood by almost every American.

In reaction, one Canadian official said his country might begin requiring Americans to show their passports before crossing into Canada.---article

Now they're going to 'crack down.' When it was suggested after 9/11, Canada 'had reasons' to be reluctant in tightening their borders.

I would suggest that ID also be required to be eligible for social services benefits.


PEACE3

Jim Chester
Since 9/11, you have had to show either your birth certificate or a passport to get into Canada in crossing from Detroit to Windsor. I assumed that it had already been nationally instituted.
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Originally posted by kresge:
Since 9/11, you have had to show either your birth certificate or a passport to get into Canada in crossing from Detroit to Windsor. I assumed that it had already been nationally instituted.


When I was working at Wayne State, we would just drive back and forth across the bridge to Windsor. We didn't need any ID at all. They just asked our nationalities, and why we were going. We'd just tell them that we were going out to eat or whatever, and that was it.

Of course, that was in the early 1990s.
Of course, that was in the early 1990s.---ricardomath

The same was true when I was making that crossing in the mid-90s. Birth certificates were require in flight when traveling by air followed with a Customs face-to-face challenge on the ground.

Clearly, it's a new day. Post 9/11 as 'kresge' noted.

I think all nations will better served with a hard protocol at our borders.

We'll adjust.

We'll 'get over it.'


PEACE

Jim Chester
This is funny to me. America has never had a problem with folk coming and going through our borders, just people of color.

A recent survey was done regarding the national origins of undocumented residents residing here in Tucson. Mexican Nationals made up the largest group, followed by Central Americans; but a close third was Canadians, far ahead of African or Haitian Nationals. However, the same survey indicated that while the Mexican and Central Americans mainly held down minimum wage (or lower) wages, the Canadians either earned significantly more or did not work at at. But in the debate about illegal immigration, Canadians don't even get a mention.
You got that right.

It was about color in the 1020s when those 'dark-skinned' Italians, and Greeks, and Armenians, and Albanians, and such wanted to come in.

It's about whoever is not European.

Either you or Kevin41 rightly tagged 'European' for the 'default' definition for American.

It's always about color.

Even 'colorblind' is about 'black' folks and 'white' folks.

PEACE

Jim Chester
Let's not forget America has a record I don't know how many trillion dollar deficit that is growing by leaps and bounds every single day.

Things are so bad here in Texas now that you can get a $100.00 ticket for having the little frame that goes around your license plate display the name of the dealership that sold you the car. Eek Eek

The U.S. government is about to make a bundle off of this.
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Originally posted by EbonyRose:
Let's not forget America has a record I don't know how many trillion dollar deficit that is growing by leaps and bounds every single day.



I assume you're referring to the trade deficit. Instead of blaming it all on Bush and the evil Republican free market-loving capitalists, YOU can actually do something to lower the trade deficit yourself. Yeah! Next time you're shopping at Wal-Mart, don't automatically reach for every product marked "Made In China" or "Hecho en Mexico." Look around. See if there are still any products made in the USA. Every little bit can help reduce the trade deficit.
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Originally posted by EbonyRose:
Let's not forget America has a record I don't know how many trillion dollar deficit that is growing by leaps and bounds every single day.

Things are so bad here in Texas now that you can get a $100.00 ticket for having the little frame that goes around your license plate display the name of the dealership that sold you the car. Eek Eek

The U.S. government is about to make a bundle off of this.


Eek Say WHAT??!! You can get a ticket for the dealership putting a license plate holder for your tag?
Whoever passed that law deserves the electric chair or lethal injection. bang td6 bs
All I know is that everytime I went into Canada their customs people are some of the nicest folks while ours on the US side coming back are some of the biggest dicks in the world.

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