Apple iPad tablet specs officially announced

{{{  And the price? A 250mb of data per-month 3G data plan comes in at $14.99 a month. An unlimited plan is $29.99. These can be turned on and bought on a month-by-month basis on the iPad itself. The unit is $499 in the States for the non-3G 16GB model. The 64GB, 3G model will go for $829, with a further 4 models in between. UK pricing is yet to be confirmed, as it won't be out over here until June. Unlocked iPads can be bought from the US in 60 days time.  }}}
http://news.myjoyonline.com/te...ogy/201001/41230.asp

This thing doesn't look like it is any good until you spend $829.

The disk is still half the size of most netbooks.  And they say it doesn't play flash.  I would rather have an HP 311 for $400 on the basis of what I'm reading so far.

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Top 10 netbooks

{{{{  Netbooks are perfect travel companions and meet basic computing needs, including e-mailing, Web surfing, and simple document creation. Best of all, these low-powered machines cost less than the standard-issue laptop
By PC World staff | PC World

Windows XP, 1GB of RAM, a 160GB hard disk, and a 10-inch screen are almost standard features of the netbook class. And so is an Intel Atom processor, though one of models we review here sports a Via Nano CPU. With any device that attempts to shrink a PC into an ultra-portable three-pound package, you can expect compromises. That said, many of these netbooks boast quite usable keyboards, decent performance, and excellent battery life (as long as 10 hours!). You'll even find features such as dual-boot Android, TV tuners, and gaming-capable GPUs in the mix. Prices range from $300 to $500-plus.

Acer Aspire One 751h

Acer Aspire One D250-1613

ASUS Eee PC 1005HA

Dell Inspiron Mini 10

HP Mini 311-1000NR

HP Mini 5101

Lenovo IdeaPad S12

Samsung Go

Samsung NP-NC20

Toshiba NB205-310    }}}}

http://www.infoworld.com/d/har.../top-10-netbooks-936

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PeeWee Kit — Children’s PC Sans the PC


{{{ The security portion of the PeeWee Kit is designed to provide parents with peace of mind with Junior traipsing all over the big, bad Internet. It couples parental control with the ability to monitor computer usage remotely to provide a safe environment for the little ones. The included software is rounded out with a solid list of educational programs and games to keep the kid’s attention on the learning experience:
  • Science House
  • Bailey Book House
  • Trudy’s Time & Place House
  • Sammy’s Science House
  • Millie’s Math House
  • Thinkin’ Things
  • Mighty Math Carnival Countdown
  • Zoombinis Mountain Rescue
  • Reader Rabbit
  • Where in the World in Carmen Sandiego?
  • Oregon Trail

The PeeWee Kit sounds like a solid investment for those wishing to get the kiddos familiar with using a computer, while doing so safely and with good purpose. The CD version of the kit only includes some of the programs listed and is $19.99, while the USB flash complete version is $29.99. }}}

http://jkontherun.com/2010/02/17/peewee-kit-childrens-pc-sans-the-pc/

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Coby $85 smartbook feels like a hundred bucks (hands-on)

{{{  Funny how our tune on smartbooks totally changes when one's got an $85 price tag. We happened upon Coby's booth at CeBIT this morning and of all the fairly cheap feeling laptops the company had on display it was its 7-inch NBPC722 smartbook that cozied right up to us. Okay, so it isn't as thin or attractive as the $499 Lenovo's Skylight, but again let us remind you that it costs about as much as a couple of new printer ink cartridges. Inside the little guy packs a 624MHz Marvell PXA303 processor, 2GB of flash storage and runs Windows CE which all should be good enough for some light Web browsing and e-mail writing. There was actually a YouTube shortcut on the desktop, but the NBPC722 wasn't connected to try it out. Apparently this inexpensive laptop should be making its way stateside this spring, but until the flowers start blooming you've got the video below.  }}}
http://www.engadget.com/2010/0...dred-bucks-hands-on/

I have found 21 megabytes of decent science fiction in Project Gutenberg but there is more than 5 times that much.  Today a 500 page paperback is 1 megabyte and costs $8.  So that 21 meg could be worth $160.  But that smartbook is just a little over half that much.  So just buying that thing for a kid to read SF off the internet is worth the money.

The problem is the time to find what is worth reading.

http://www.gutenberg.org/files.../24161-h/24161-h.htm

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A Small Business Guide to Buying a Netbook

The netbook craze began back in 2007 with the Asus Eee PC. What started as a fad has grown into its own PC category. What distinguishes a netbook from a notebook? There’s no official definition, but the basic rule of thumb describes a netbook as an ultraportable notebook that weighs around 3 pounds, comes with a small screen and costs between $300 and $500 depending on specs and features.

http://www.smallbusinesscomputing.com/buyersguide/article.php/3870611

 

Let's get REAL here.  Everything in that article is in general correct but there is a certain perspective it does not include.

In 1980 an IBM 3033 mainframe cost $3,000,000.  Are we supposed to believe that machine could not DO BUSINESS?  But that computer could only take a MAXIMUM of 32 Megabytes.  Normal netbooks have THIRTY TWO TIMES that much memory!  So how could any netbook with a GIGABYTE of memory not take care of business?  Why should anyone need TWO GIGABYTES?

 

The software is different now.  You need to listen for what you NEVER HEAR.  When does anybody talk about SOFTWARE EFFICIENCY?  They don't!  The software is practically designed to WASTE PROCESSING POWER.

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Why would anyone buy an iPad instead of this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Es5rqGTgPbU

{{{ 

Two versions of the T1000 will be offered, the T1000X with a 4-cell, 4,500mAh battery and the T1000P with a 6-cell, 7,650mAh battery.  Both netbooks will have 1GB of RAM, a 250GB HDD and Intel GMA 3150 graphics, along with WiFi b/g/n, 10/100 ethernet and Bluetooth 2.1+EDR.

Ports include two USB 2.0, an eSATA/USB combo, audio in/out, VGA, ExpressCard and a multiformat memory card reader; there’s also a 1.3-megapixel webcam, microphone and 1.5W stereo speakers.  No word on pricing, but we’re guessing this won’t be an especially cheap netbook – Gigabyte will probably tell us more at CeBIT 2010 this coming week.  }}}

http://www.slashgear.com/gigabyte-touchnote-t1000-netbook-tablet-packs-new-atom-n470-2875920/

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Averatec N1231 Atom 1.66GHz 10" Netbook for $200 + free shipping

Intel Atom N450 1.66GHz processor, 1024x600 widescreen LCD, 1GB RAM, 160GB hard drive, 802.11n wireless, webcam, 2-cell battery, card reader, and Windows XP Home.

http://www.i4u.com/article33441.html

This is getting unreal.  I paid $600 for my first hard drive.  It was 20 MEGABYTES and that did not include the computer.  I was adding it to a computer I already owned.

So that is 8,000 times as big a hard drive for 1/3rd as much money and a far more powerful computer.  It is like the computers are free it is just a matter of can people figure out what to do with them.  It costs less than a Kindle e-reader.

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Here is something to do with a computer with a USB port.

SmartScope Elementary Basic Kit
http://www.smartschoolsystems....ryId=15&#product

The SmartScope digital microscope allows students to explore the microscopic world all around us.

    * 10x to 200x magnification
    * High resolution for great images
    * Take Still Images, Videos, or Time-Lapse Videos
    * Change Focus and Magnification with a single dial
    * Change Light Level with a single dial
    * Easy enough for preschoolers to use,
        but powerful enough for advanced sciences

OH NO!  The iPad doesn't have a USB port.  

Xum
So, back to my ongoing monologue that no one is interested in.



Of course the trouble with netbooks is that they are too big.  LOL



I like my PMA400 because it fits in my pocket.  But the touchscreen keyboard SUCKS!



Smaller than Netbooks



I would just need to put Linux on one of those.  But they cost more than a netbook for a smaller screen.  Technology SUCKS!!!



Every kindergarten kid needs 160 GIGABYTES!   ROFL



360 Gig for 5 year olds???



If this is being marketed for kindergarteners thru 6th grade then what is it about the machine that 7th graders can't use it.  But they are trying to sell machines with basically the same specs to businessmen that want to travel light.



They don't give a damn about education it is just about pushing the product.



Try explaining a gigabyte to a kindergartener.  LOL



But businessmendon't need spill resistant keyboards.  Yeah, spill that martini on the keyboard.  Buy another computer.  It's good for business.



Netbooks have reached a new plateau.



Dual-core Ion



Now everyone MUST have a DUAL-CORE Atom with the Nvidia chip.



Does that make it a diatomic ion?



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The netbook market has reached a new plateau in performance with the Asus 1215n.

http://www.netbooklive.net/asus-eee-pc-1215n-review-power-in-a-compact-sleek-body-4092/



Dual-Core Atom with Nvidia ION2 support.  But it costs $500.



Below that for comparison is the HP 311 which is single core with the ION1 at $400.

http://reviews.cnet.com/laptops/hp-mini-311/4505-3121_7-33772608.html



But HP is also targeting kindergarten kids.  The HP 100e is a conventional netbook but with a handle and a spill resistant keyboard and is claimed to be more rugged than a normal netbook.  I bought a Panasonic Tough that is only 500 MHz but can be driven over with a car.  I value rugged construction more than power.  Because all of the stuff is so powerful these days.  The HP 100e is $300.

http://www.liliputing.com/2010/06/hands-on-with-the-hp-mini-100e.html



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The media is churning out lots of contradictory articles about netbooks.  Tablets are going to kill netbooks!  The iPad is destroying netbooks!  Netbook sales are going to triple by 2013!  Netbook sales are going to double!



Blah!  Blah!  Blah!   The media is there to fill up space to get advertising.



http://arstechnica.com/apple/news/2010/05/is-the-ipad-killing-netbooks-or-have-they-hit-a-ceiling.ars

http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Desktops-and-Notebooks/Netbook-Sales-to-More-than-Double-by-2013-ABI-864854/

http://www.businessweek.com/technology/content/apr2010/tc2010041_600018.htm

http://www.liliputing.com/2010/05/department-of-obvious-research-netbook-sales-are-slowing.html



Now here is an article that makes some sense.



http://www.helium.com/items/1904840-best-computer-for-high-school-kids



Parents should be getting these things for their kids and not waiting for the idiots running the local school system to get their heads out of their asses.  The educators haven't figured out that accounting should be mandatory in the last 50 years.  Look at what that has done for the economy.



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Uh oh!  Here is the second spill resistant keyboard on the market.

Samsung N150-11: $349 Atom-powered Netbook With Spill Resistant Keyboard


http://www.notebooks.com/2010/...-resistant-keyboard/

The HP 100e is $50 cheaper but this one doesn't look like a kids computer.  I would rather have a TOUGH kids computer.

But this does demonstrate a possible advantage of tablet computers.  If the tablet has a USB port, which the iPad does not, then a $25 folding USB keyboard can be used with it.  If the keyboard goes bad just buy another one.  I bet that would cost less than paying to have a netbook keyboard repaired.

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Axon Builds Tablet You Can Hackintosh, Does Windows and Linux Too

{{{  All this time we thought the way to one-up Apple's iPad was to build a Windows- or Android-based tablet with all the features the iPad neglects. Boy were we off, or so hopes a company called Axon Logic. Never heard of them? If history is any indication, you soon will. That's because Axon has gone and put together a tablet -- the Axon Haptic -- that's primed for end users to slap a Darwin OS onto its slate, such as Apple's Mac OS X Snow Leopard. Should this thing catch on, and perhaps even if it doesn't, you can bet Apple's legal team will be ready to go the distance.  }}}

http://hothardware.com/News/Ax...ndows-and-Linux-Too/

This looks like a potential iPad beater. Too many iPads have been sold for anything to be an iPad killer.

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Just in time!!!

SanDisk Reveals The SSD Perfect For Mobile Computing - It's Smaller Than A Postage Stamp

{{{   Solid state drives just got a whole lot smaller. Memory maker SanDisk introduced a new super compact memory chip that is smaller than your average postage stamp and lighter than a paperclip.

The new chip based solid state drive (SSD), which SanDisk has named an integrated SSD (or iSSD for short), measures in at just 16 by 20 by 1.85-mm and weighs less than a single gram. The memory firm detailed that the iSSD chips will be available in capacities ranging from 4GB to 64GB and has been developed with the growing mobile market in mind, making it perfect for devices such as smartphones, tablets and ultra-thin netbooks. }}}

http://www.pcworld.com/article/203601/sandisk_reveals_the_ssd_perfect_for_mobile_computing_its_smaller_than_a_postage_stamp.html?tk=hp_new

My PMA400 has a 30 gig hard drive.  I have dropped it a few times.  It was never more than a couple of feet and always on carpeting.  But I worry about that drive.  It's 3 years old and I expect hard drives to last 3 to 5 years.  So any day now.  It is actually only 28 gig and I usually only have 7 or 8 gig of space left.  But a 64 gig Solid State Drive would be a killer.

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Dual-core netbook performance.

{{{ Intel has mopped the floor with netbook design-wins that employ its ultra low-power Atom processor, performance on Atom-based machines has always felt a little (or a lot perhaps?) emaciated.  And that's regardless of whether you're looking to run multimedia or gaming applications. Regardless, technology marches on, especially with the endless resources of Intel's monstrous fabrication technologies, and as such, Intel's darling netbook processor has been evolving of course.

Today we've got a quick, breaking look at an evolution of Intel's new Pinetrail Atom platform and the integrated Pineview Atom processor architecture Intel first unveiled last December. However, Pineview it appears, took on not only another processor core but also ramped up clock speed to a snappier 1.8GHz. }}}

http://hothardware.com/News/Intels-DualCore-18GHz-Pineview-Atom-D525-Hits-HotHardware-Labs/

The HP-311 which was just  introduced last March is at the bottom.

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Seven Of The Best Netbooks Around


 by Thanasis Monday 20 Sept 2010 -
http://www.tcmagazine.com/tcm/...best-netbooks-around

Price     Weight          Hard Drive     Screen Size

Acer Aspire     Intel Atom N450        
$299,00    2.80 lb    1.66 GHz 250GB    10.1" (1024 x 600)

Gateway LT2118u     Intel Atom N450    
$349,99     2.76 lb    1.6 GHz  250GB    10.1" (1024 x 600)

HP Mini 5102     Intel Atom N450
$415,00     2.64 lb    1.66 GHz 160GB    10.1" (1024 x 600)

Dell Inspiron     Intel Atom N450    
$379,00     3.0 lb    1.66 GHz 250GB    10.1" (1024 x 600)

Toshiba NB305     Intel Atom N450    
$399.99    2.8 lb    1.66 GHz 250GB    10.1" (1024 x 600)

ASUS Eee PC     Intel Atom 330 dual core
$480,00     3.2 lb     1.6 GHz     250GB    12.1" (1366x768)

Lenovo ThinkPad     GHz AMD Athlon Neo MV-40
$469.90      3.0 lb    1.6     160GB    11.6"(1366 x 768)

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Samsung launches NF310 dual core netbook with HD display

Samsung NF310 Dual Core Netbook Offers HD Display at $399 Pricetag

Samsung $399

Samsung video

Samsung Video 2

OK! Just a few months ago I was impressed by the HP-311 with the ION graphics chip for $400.  But that is an 11.6" design.  Most 10" devices have a vertical resolution of 600 pixels.  I consider that to be unacceptable.  The HP with the bigger screen has a vertical resolution of 768.  But of course that means carrying a bigger device.

Now this Samsung hits the same price point with dual-core and a vertical resolution of 768 on a 10 inch screen.  BUT THIS MEANS THE USER BETTER CHECK THE PICTURE SIZE to see if their eyes can handle it.  But it may also mean that this forces down the price of the HP-311.  Although the Samsung is in the media it probably is not on the shelves yet.  That may be another two months.  10 inches means a smaller keyboard too.  There will probably be an NF312 model with a bigger screen and keyboard.

But hey, we are getting past the point where the hardware power matters.  It is reasonably efficient software and WHAT WE DO WITH THE TECH.

Kindrgarten kids with netbooks more powerful than 1980 mainframes.  THAT IS A HOOT!

Have you seen this yet?

http://www.dumbestgeneration.com/home.html

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Off the top of my head I am not a fan of tablet computers.  But the fact of the matter is they are just another von Neumann machine.  I do think the iPad is really DUMB though.  No camera and no USB ports.  The lack of USB ports is even more stupid than no camera.  How many different devices have USB interfaces these days.  Keyboards, Bar Code Readers, Cameras, Speakers, the list is endless.  And if you get a bluetooth keyboard then you have to feed it batteries.

I will concede that there is at least one advantage to a tablet with a USB port over a netbook.  Keyboards do malfunction.  Keys stop working, sometimes they short, you get two letters or more when you just want one.  So if the keyboard screws up on a netbook you have to get it fixed.  If you have a USB keyboard for a tablet you can just buy another one.  May take less time and cost less money.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lUFZ_DxsbQ

So if the user does not type a lot a tablet can be better than a netbook. 

10 things to look for in a tablet computer

Little Keyboards
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjxA1xuUrmU

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So what is the difference between a netbook and a laptop?

The most obvious thing is size and weight.  Netbooks max out at about a 12 inch screen size.  The majority are 10 inches.  The 7 and 9 inch models have almost disappeared, they only exist to get very low prices.   But smaller screens also mean smaller keyboards. The next factor is the OPTICAL DRIVE.  Netbooks do not have DVD drives.

Now the issue is processing power.  Netbooks have had 1.6 gigahertz Atom processors for almost 18 months now.  Dual-core netbooks at 1.5 GHz are beginning to appear.

That $99 device is about equal to 1998 desktop technology.  It would probably be more accurate to call that Sylvania a Smartbook than a netbook.

Smartbooks use versions of the ARM processor while netbooks are Intel compatible processors.  They use different machine code and the buyer needs to be aware what software will and will not run on them.

I consider this low power and just for web surfing to be mostly marketing BS.  There is no question that a laptop that weighs 6 to 9 pounds and costs $900 or more is going to be more powerful than a netbook.  But netbooks are about as powerful as desktops that were being sold in 2003 and 2004.  No one was saying those were just for surfing the web.

This is about MONEY!!!  The manufacturers don't want customers abandoning more powerful machines.  The advertisers know that.  If a magazine or website started telling people that more powerful machines were a waste of money how fast would their advertising dry up?

I think our problem is bloated, inefficient software.  If more powerful machines have a significant advantage it is mostly because they run crappy software better.

Netbooks come with 160 and 250 gigabyte drives now.  I'm sorry but I remember when I thought 10 gig was big.  I remember when I thought 100 meg was big.  But no one was storing video on hard drives then.  The biggest drive I have is 500 gig and I only really use it for backups.  It is turned off right now.  I don't see why more than very rare people need to carry around more than 250 gig.  100 gig is enough to store 100,000 books the size of The Da Vinci Code.  If we could select 100 gig of good non-redundant information how badly would we need internet access?  Besides mail and news and sports what more could be necessary?  100 gig would be multiple encyclopedia.

The computer industry does not want to promote the idea that netbooks are more than good enough for 85% of the population.  This is about THE MONEY!

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I asked for the nutshell version, Xum!!    I don't understand half of what you just said!    But, about this ...

Reference:
Netbooks do not have DVD drives.

Are you saying they have no additional drives??  No CD, either ... or just one that plays DVDs??? 

And 250 gigs is so far beyond what I will probably ever use for space!!    That wouldn't be a problem even at 100 gigs ... but, when you say that they're about as "powerful" as a 2003 or 04 computer ... do mean in the slow, sluggish ... takes forever to load a page or program kinda way???

And, would you say, that as long as I didn't want to use that kind of big, bulky, "overpowered" software on it, I'd probably be okay and not want to slam it against a wall for being too slow sometimes?? 
Reference:
Are you saying they have no additional drives?? No CD, either ... or just one that plays DVDs???
New computers don't come with CD drives anymore.  They are always DVD drives.  It is just a question of whether they will burn CDs or DVDs or both. 

Netbooks DO NOT HAVE OPTICAL drives.  Just a hard drive and USB ports.  They will boot from a drive plugged into the USB.

The hard drive is either 160 gig or 250 gig.  The number of models with 160 is decreasing and with 250 increasing. 

Desktop computers are usually around 2.5 GHz dual core or even quad core.  Laptops are about 2 GHz dual core, so the netbooks are not as powerful as modern desktop machine.  Single core netbooks have about the power of TOP OF THE LINE computers from 2003 and 2004.  I have a 1.8 GHz single core Gateway from 2004.  It is not as fast as my 2.8 GHz dual-core Gateway.

It's a complicated subject there is a limit to how simple it can be made without leaving out important information.

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It's $100 but it ain't a netbook, it's a Smartbook.

A smartbook uses some kind of ARM processor that is not compatible with Intel code.  Netbooks have Intel or AMD processors that run Intel code.

Below are two video reviews of the product.  The first is quite positive and the second is somewhat less so.  My point is that this device cost ONE HUNDRED DOLLARS.  If you expect it to be as good as a $300 netbook then you have the problem not it.  I would say it is great for $100.

But let's put that in perspective.  The second review says it ONLY HAS 128 MEG of RAM.  By todays standards that is low.  But when Windows XP was introduced lots of computers only had that much.

Consider the IBM 3033 mainframe.  In 1980 that machine cost $3,000,000.  The most RAM it could take was 32 megabytes and that would raise the price.  Why were companies willing to spend that much if 128 meg is to be so despised today.  That was enough to buy 100 $30,000 automobiles.But you could buy 300 of these computers for that much.  Times have changed.  But neither of these reviewers talks about using the computers as book readers or audiobook players. So it is not about how bad the computer is, it is about WHAT YOU DO WITH IT!!!

YouTube - CVS Sylvania Netbook - Review by AF Computers

YouTube - $99 CVS Sylvania Netbook Computer - REVIEW!!

That dude can't figure out the buttons.  It means push this button to turn it on and then push it again to turn it off.

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OK, I bought the $100 smartbook on Black Friday.

It is better than I expected.  I had trouble with the wireless for a while.  It won't accept DHCP from my D-Link router but it does from another device.  I have to do a manual IP configuration for the D-Link but it works once it is done.  This thing is fine as a book reader for text, HTML and PDFs.  Everybody says it is 2 pounds but the computer alone is 1.5 pounds, less than half the weight of the OLPC.  The OLPC is too heavy for a book reader.  The 800 by 480 screen is as wide as the OLPC's but not as tall.  It is great for $100 if you understand and are willing to accept its limitations. 

If the limitations are unacceptable then spend another $200 for a REAL netbook.  But a real netbook may be heavier.  It is just that the weight difference between 1.5 and 3.2 pounds is more than you think when you have to hold it with one hand for 15 minutes.  I can hold this with my left and type with my right.  I can do it with the OLPC but it begins to get uncomfortable after 15 minutes.  I bought a 4 gig SDHC card instead of an SD card and apparently they are not compatible so I haven't tested the SD card reader yet.  The SDHC works in the OLPC.  The incompatibilities among all this crap is a pain in the ass.   But how many people really need to carry around more than 8 gig of data?

The speakers are not as loud as the OLPC but much better than my PMA400.  That thing is just about worthless without earphones.  The CVS Sylvania is OK in a quiet room but noise will drown it out.  The keyboard is better than the OLPC's but it is not waterproof but most netbooks are not. 

It plays flash videos acceptably.  A 40 minute Stargate Atlantis episode is about 100 megabytes.  So an 8 gig SD card would hold more than 50 yours of video.  Not the best video quality but I concentrate o the story not the picture.  I was surprised at how good it can be.  Fast action makes it blocky though.

It appears there are a lot of devices using this same case but some have different processors.  Something called a CnmBook with a MIPS processor is being sold in England running Linux.

YouTube - CnMBook Review

YouTube - ASUS EEEPC VS TRENDTAC EPC 700 - DOG DAY AFTERNOON

But what matters is what you load on them not the computer.

The Project Gutenberg eBook of Black Man's Burden, by Mack Reynolds.

The Project Gutenberg eBook of Border, Breed Nor Birth, by Mack Reynolds

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I got the CEgcc cross compiler working yesterday.  I ran the Byte 1983 benchmark onthe CVS Sylvania  It is 130% faster than the PMA400.

PMA400       0.0522 sec.
CVSylvania  0.0220 sec.

  The Sylvania does not come with a programming environment.  The gcc compiler on a Linux box is a pain in the neck.  It is like the Linux gurus don't want stuff easy to use.

With 128 meg of memory and a 8 gig SD card there is no reason why any kind of programming could not be done on this machine.  It just requires the software tools.  But who wants to provide it on a $100 machine.

Computer programmer is not as impressive as it was in the 1960s even if the programmers are far better.  We have not adjusted to cheap computers EVERYWHERE.  A useful program could be worth more than this $100 computer.

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The CVS Sylvania is half as fast as the OLPC in my benchmark and the Opera browser is faster on the OLPC than Internet Explorer on the Sylvania.

On fancy websites with lots of flash video ads the Sylvania can completely freeze.  It works fine on simple websites.  I think the Sylvania is most useful for viewing material copied to it via SD Card or a USB stick from a more powerful computer.  Use a powerful desktop to provide information that can be read or watched on the go.  The Sylvania can play flash video files and the OLPC cannot.  About 60 hours of flash video can be stored on an 8 gig SD card.

So the light weight and usability of the Sylvania can make it a better choice than a more powerful netbook.  It is easy to hold with one hand while the OLPC at 3.2 pounds is tiring after 15 minutes and the keyboard on the Sylvania is better though it is not waterproof.  So it depends on how it is used.  More processing power means more weight and more cost.

There is an Operating System upgrade but Wordpad on the old system is better than this CKE junk text editor that comes with the new one.  I have yet to figure out how to get Wordpad running again.



I took the OLPC and the Sylvania to a library.  The OLPC got on the wireless network instantly, No Problemo.  The Sylvania detected the network SSID but would not connect.  Using information that the OLPC found about the network like the IP adddress I was able to get the Sylvania to show a connection but Internet Explorer still would not find a website.  I suspect that I didn't get the correct gateway address.  I will have to try again later.



That last paragraph was typed from the Sylvania wirelessly to s Dlink access point so it does work but the DHCP software isn't as good as the OLPC's.  I have read that some people have gotten Android to run on this device so I will be checking that out.


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Another high school is doing netbooks.

http://www.daytondailynews.com...o-alter-1060345.html

Dayton Ohio at $1000 per student over 4 years.

But why not $100 computers in grade school?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCHHAFyp9I0

But what can they do that $100 Sylvnias can't do.  It's a different Windows so a simple list would be long.  But what can the kids learn besides how to operate some software?   But is this just a matter of needing more software?  But what company wants to pursue that low price point?

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I just made an absurd discovery.  CVS has been advertising an E-Reader for $180.  But it isn't an E-Reader.  It's an Android tablet.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_u-9_-uIoY

The CPU is 1 GHz so it is THREE TIMES as powerful and the $100 netbook.  It doesn't have a keyboard but it does have two USB ports but they are minis.  So it should be possible to find a folding keyboard to use with it.

But it is getting close to the price of a REAL netbook.

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New netbook strategy from SAMSUNG!

 OPERATING SYSTEM NOT!

Samsung NF208 – NF210 without Windows
http://www.netbooknews.com/181...f210-without-windows

http://liliputing.com/tag/samsung-nf208

http://www.3noobs.com/samsung-...-netbook-specs-price

It looks like an NF210 but has the electronics of an NF310 but with more RAM and a bigger hard drive.  So 320 is bigger than 250.  What difference does it make?  Talk about Cyber-Saturation.

But who wants Windows 7 Starter edition anyway?  Macro$cam just has different OSes as part of the marketing strategy.  So load XP Home for things like Power DVD and Ubuntu and Android.  Screw Macro$cam.

This may work among the techies but maybe more people will learn to install OSes.  A 4 gig USB stick should hold everything necessary.

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